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Title: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/sam nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on October 31, 2009, 10:26:34 am
A plane flies from an airport A to an airport B. The position vector of B relative to A is (1200i + 240j) km,
where i is a unit vector due east and j is a unit vector due north. Because of the constant wind which is
blowing, the flight takes 4 hours. The velocity in still air of the plane is (250i + 160j) kmh–1. Find the
speed of the wind and the bearing of the direction from which the wind is blowing.

this quesiotion has stuck me up!!!

help!!
ans is 112(app.)
at 333o acc. to ms
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on October 31, 2009, 10:57:57 am
help ios wat everyone needs
no one here is providing me wid that!!!  :( :(
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on October 31, 2009, 10:59:06 am
to find the speed = 1200i + 240j/4 = 300i+60j

250i  + xi + 160j + yj = 300i + 160j

xi = 50i

yj = -100j

refer to the diagram

angle XON = 90 - XOZ

XOZ = tan-1 2 = 63.4

therefore XON = 26.6

the bearing wud be the reflex angle i.e 360-26.6 = 333.4
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on October 31, 2009, 11:01:14 am
cool
freaking answer!!
how do you manage it dyude???
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on October 31, 2009, 11:03:55 am
cool
freaking answer!!
how do you manage it dyude???


read the add. math book and solve the papers.
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on October 31, 2009, 11:04:49 am
hmm!!
i'll try to do so!!
chal then will be bak wid few more doubts!!
haha
dont mind answering them rite???  :P :P
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on October 31, 2009, 11:21:31 am
2002 oct
question no. 10 lst part!!
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on October 31, 2009, 11:26:03 am
i got every thign just last part mein doubt!!!

bachaooooo...!!!
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on October 31, 2009, 11:32:12 am
2002 oct
question no. 10 lst part!!


gr8 then!

no need to explain everything!

u already have one equation for OQ which u found out in ii

now..u know that OQ = OA + AQ

substitute the value for AQ in this eq.

now, u have 2 values for OQ in the form of a,b, lamda and u

compare the co-efficients of a and b to find the value of those 2 constants
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: @d!_†oX!© on October 31, 2009, 11:34:47 am
i) OA + AP = OP
   AP = 1/3 b -a
  OA + AB = OB
  AB = b - a
  AM = 1/2 b - 1/2 a
  OA + AM = OM
  OM = a + 1/2 b - 1/2 a
  OM = 1/2 a + 1/2 b

ii)THEREFORE, OQ = (i dunno how to put dt symbol here[M TAKING IT AS y])(1/2a + 1/2b)

iii)AQ = (another symbol[M TAKING IT AS x])(1/3b - a)

iv)OA + AQ = OQ
   a + x/3 b - xa = y/2a + y/2 b

dude even m confused wat to do next????
anyone there???
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on October 31, 2009, 11:38:37 am
toxic no need this much!!
By the way thanx aadi
nd toxic thanx for firt explanation!!!  :P :P
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on October 31, 2009, 11:41:31 am
dude!...didnt u read wat i just said

COMPARE THE CO-EFFICIENTS!!

FIRST REARRANGE

a(1-x) + x/3 b = y/2 a + y/2 b

now

1-x = y/2

y = 2-2x
--
bx/3 = by/2

x/3 = y/2

2x = 3y

2x = 6-6x
8x = 6

x = 3/4

substitute to find the value of y/ i am bored~
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on October 31, 2009, 11:42:10 am
toxic no need this much!!
By the way thanx aadi
nd toxic thanx for firt explanation!!!  :P :P

ahh..thats k..

abbe..isko chod...solve all relative velocity first..yeh chindi hai!
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on October 31, 2009, 11:42:42 am
haha
hihih
huhuh
bored doing add. math???

great i think you are the fisrt to get so!!!
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on October 31, 2009, 11:43:54 am
ahh..thats k..

abbe..isko chod...solve all relative velocity first..yeh chindi hai!
trying to find them!!
but have got only one in p2 till now
i have done all p1 questions
so no use doing them again!!!
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on October 31, 2009, 11:51:33 am
haha
hihih
huhuh
bored doing add. math???

great i think you are the fisrt to get so!!!

generally bored
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: @d!_†oX!© on October 31, 2009, 11:52:21 am
ohhh
Thanks aadi
nd shrey i had already done the question till the time u posted it....
anyways....uss samey dimaag kahin aur tha isliye i cudnt know wat to do next...
it was easy thoug...a he says"chindi"  hahaha
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on October 31, 2009, 11:52:28 am
aha
this is the ussual case when we get long big hols of 3 days btwnexams!!
we are really confused abt wat to do!!!
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on October 31, 2009, 11:54:24 am
ohhh
Thanks aadi
nd shrey i had already done the question till the time u posted it....
anyways....uss samey dimaag kahin aur tha isliye i cudnt know wat to do next...
it was easy thoug...a he says"chindi"  hahaha

yea..lol..t was CHINDI!...

hey adi!..u watch socceR?
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on October 31, 2009, 11:56:32 am
obviously he watches
i guess he supports manchester!!!
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: @d!_†oX!© on October 31, 2009, 12:33:51 pm
how do u know i do????
By the way not so often...as in i don't FOLLOW it but yeah..i take some regular updates....
nd for manchester....dude i like that team cuz i always wen i choose that team on soccer games on my XBOX 360
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on October 31, 2009, 12:35:06 pm
how do u know i do????
By the way not so often...as in i don't FOLLOW it but yeah..i take some regular updates....
nd for manchester....dude i like that team cuz i always wen i choose that team on soccer games on my XBOX 360
dude the reality is tha manchester is gonna loose this time
come in sport thread not over here!!!
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on October 31, 2009, 12:38:24 pm
How many different 4-digit numbers greater than 3000 can be formed using the six digits
1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 if no digit can be used more than once?

toxic dude or ne body answer this!!!

saw ms
it said 4*(5*4*3)

explain why??
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: @d!_†oX!© on October 31, 2009, 12:40:44 pm
which paper is this???

Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on October 31, 2009, 12:46:22 pm
which paper is this???



winter (oct/nov) 2008!!!
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: @d!_†oX!© on October 31, 2009, 12:47:54 pm
abbey temme the whole thing naa
which paper...which question???
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on October 31, 2009, 12:49:30 pm
oct/nov 2008 p2 and q6 part 2!!!!


baapre!!!

gussa hai kya!!!????


haha lolzzz ;D ;D
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: @d!_†oX!© on October 31, 2009, 12:52:26 pm
not really angry....but mood kharb hai...
anyways...is this a question of permutation and combination???
seems so...
dude i haven't done it so far....
i'll still try nd will let ya know
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on October 31, 2009, 12:54:54 pm
kk
no prbs!!
jaldi bhej!!
aadi ka kuch pata chala!!
i guess usko reply nahin karneka hai!!!
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on October 31, 2009, 12:57:07 pm
How many different 4-digit numbers greater than 3000 can be formed using the six digits
1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 if no digit can be used more than once?

toxic dude or ne body answer this!!!

saw ms
it said 4*(5*4*3)

explain why??

the first number has to be one of 3,4,5,6
5 choices for the 2nd number
4 for the 3rd
and 2 for the 4th
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: @d!_†oX!© on October 31, 2009, 12:59:29 pm
y is 3456 the first number sir???
can't it be 3124???
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on October 31, 2009, 12:59:47 pm
2 for 4th??
or 3??/

if two then it must be *2!!!
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on October 31, 2009, 01:00:37 pm
y is 3456 the first number sir???
can't it be 3124???


dude they asking number above 3000 so it must be 3,4,5,6

how can it be 1,2,3???

just think!!
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on October 31, 2009, 01:02:15 pm
How many different 4-digit numbers greater than 3000 can be formed using the six digits
1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 if no digit can be used more than once?

toxic dude or ne body answer this!!!

saw ms
it said 4*(5*4*3)

explain why??

the first number has to be one of 3,4,5,6
5 choices for the 2nd number
4 choices for the 3rd
and 3 choices for the 4th
hence4*5*4*3
as soon as the first number is picked you only a have a coice of 5 etc
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on October 31, 2009, 01:03:09 pm
hmm
but then what abt the markscheme!!
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on October 31, 2009, 01:04:50 pm
i guess it must be
only 4 for 1st thing
then 5 for 2nd
4 for 3rd
and 3 for 4th!!!

just have a look!!

am i right!!
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on October 31, 2009, 01:06:29 pm
I corrected my post
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on October 31, 2009, 01:07:49 pm
hmm....!!

kk
got it sir!!
have got my add. math exams in next to next week
but still "practice makes man perfect..!!"
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on October 31, 2009, 01:22:12 pm
Keep practicing those papers
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on October 31, 2009, 04:24:01 pm
ABBE DUDE!...i didnt even see this...i was busy..

arre, y u breaking ur head soo much in these questions

just draw 4 boxes...and rite the down the possibilities..4,5,4,3 multiply them

bas!

Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 01, 2009, 10:48:01 am
hmm!!
good trick!!

kk
By the way i did not understand wat u teling??

meine post dekha nahin??!!!  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 01, 2009, 10:48:41 am
hmm!!
good trick!!

kk
By the way i did not understand wat u teling??

meine post dekha nahin??!!!  ??? ??? ???

nuthing
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 01, 2009, 10:49:25 am
aha!!

sending spam!!!  :P :P
only one word!!! :P :P

way is this!!???  :D :D
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 01, 2009, 11:34:38 am
A motor boat travels in a straight line across a river which flows at 3ms–1 between straight parallel
banks 200 m apart. The motor boat, which has a top speed of 6ms–1 in still water, travels directly from
a point A on one bank to a point B, 150m downstream of A, on the opposite bank. Assuming that the
motor boat is traveling at top speed, find, to the nearest second, the time it takes to travel from A to B.

here i am wid anther wierd question!!
i had told aadi i'll post it!!
it took time to search!!
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: @d!_†oX!© on November 01, 2009, 11:40:08 am
will the diagram look like this???
temme if i shud continue
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 01, 2009, 11:42:24 am
will the diagram look like this???
temme if i shud continue

hm!!
looking at the question i think so!!
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: @d!_†oX!© on November 01, 2009, 11:44:14 am
do u have the aswer to this question???
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: @d!_†oX!© on November 01, 2009, 11:50:51 am
just check dude...if u have the answer...
my answer comes to 22.36 seconds....
i shall show u my working if dts rite....


Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on November 01, 2009, 11:51:45 am
Am not at home now. Home in 2 hours.
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 01, 2009, 11:52:02 am
its to long
did not uderstand ne thing!!so check this!!!

http://www.freeexampapers.us/IGCSE/Additional%20Maths/CIE/2004%20Nov/0606_w04_ms_2.pdf
question no.8
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 01, 2009, 11:54:48 am
A motor boat travels in a straight line across a river which flows at 3ms–1 between straight parallel
banks 200 m apart. The motor boat, which has a top speed of 6ms–1 in still water, travels directly from
a point A on one bank to a point B, 150m downstream of A, on the opposite bank. Assuming that the
motor boat is traveling at top speed, find, to the nearest second, the time it takes to travel from A to B.

here i am wid anther wierd question!!
i had told aadi i'll post it!!
it took time to search!!

ok..i have solved it..will answer it..

making the diagram is shitty man!!
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 01, 2009, 12:00:45 pm
i know!!
it takes time in paint!!
soi suse paint.net!!
a better soft!!and i guess some wat similar to photoshop!!

attached!!

but u need some additional soft like .net framework!!
if they ask forit download from microsoft site!!
they will auto direct you!!

Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 01, 2009, 12:01:37 pm
attached

all explanations in the diagram.

hope u get it.
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 01, 2009, 12:02:39 pm
attached

all explanations in the diagram.

hope u get it.


great name for the image!!!
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 01, 2009, 12:02:57 pm
will the diagram look like this???
temme if i shud continue

lol..no adi..its not that way! :P
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 01, 2009, 12:03:52 pm
attached

all explanations in the diagram.

hope u get it.

By the way,..the markscheme diagram is not like this...but its the same concept..its just an inverted way.. :P
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 01, 2009, 12:09:16 pm
great name for the image!!!
did u understand?
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 01, 2009, 12:10:47 pm
did u understand?

trynig to will tell ya abt in some time!!
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 01, 2009, 12:15:16 pm
got it!!
great solution!!
good waY!!
i guess this is it!!
thanx dude!!

i guess astar reaches home quickly!!!
he can give some other way!!!
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: @d!_†oX!© on November 01, 2009, 12:17:31 pm
lol..no adi..its not that way! :P
yaya aadi
...
i got it...
the answer i gave earlier was actuall the angle which i gave as the answer by mistake...
i got the answer myself too..had to change my previous diagram...but ya...its a pretty cool question...
think u took the advantage of me disappearing suddenly...i had some work...
@shreycool... u got more question like this???i like these types!!
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 01, 2009, 12:21:05 pm
hm!!
i will search for them in my text book!!
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 01, 2009, 12:22:15 pm
yaya aadi
...
i got it...
the answer i gave earlier was actuall the angle which i gave as the answer by mistake...
i got the answer myself too..had to change my previous diagram...but ya...its a pretty cool question...
think u took the advantage of me disappearing suddenly...i had some work...
@shreycool... u got more question like this???i like these types!!

WHAT?!?!

hahaha...wat advantage?...i simply solved it and posted it...as if i was waiting for an answer from u..
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: @d!_†oX!© on November 01, 2009, 12:23:52 pm
lolzz....
dont take it to heart dude....
all i said was in gud humor that i was gonna post the answer but u did it cuz i went...so i said dt u tuk advantage....
lolzz....y do u get offended by everything man....just chill!!!
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 01, 2009, 12:24:25 pm
true!!
i guess you both were trying to compete the first one!!
this wasnt a competion !!

just someone answered it!!!

not someone, aadi ..
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 01, 2009, 12:24:48 pm
got it!!
great solution!!
good waY!!
i guess this is it!!
thanx dude!!

i guess astar reaches home quickly!!!
he can give some other way!!!


yea..thats k.. ur welcome
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 01, 2009, 12:31:15 pm
i dont know why these cie people give such difficult solutions in ms!!!

it is meant for students to understand!!
 not for them!!
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: @d!_†oX!© on November 01, 2009, 12:32:21 pm
haha!!!
as if the the file says "Students' mark scheme"
dude it is meant for teachers only naa
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 01, 2009, 12:33:13 pm
i dont know why these cie people give such difficult solutions in ms!!!

it is meant for students to understand!!
 not for them!!

its the same concept...u can draw however u like..

By the way...sticking to the topic...there is a high probability of a relative velocity question for oct/nov 2009...

solve the sums from the book too!...hoo soo thong ..khor nyak yong! phew!!  :P
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 01, 2009, 12:35:24 pm
i guess ven teachers cannot understand that question's answer as told by those goras!!!!

so i thnk we must tell them to keep aadi as one of these!!!

he really makes a quite good diagram!!
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 01, 2009, 12:36:50 pm
i guess ven teachers cannot understand that question's answer as told by those goras!!!!

so i thnk we must tell them to keep aadi as one of these!!!

he really makes a quite good diagram!!

By the way...paint.net is awesome!~ thanks for the setup

i liked the text option...wud be easier for me to make diagrams now...
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: @d!_†oX!© on November 01, 2009, 12:37:32 pm
i agree diagrams are mr. aadi's speciality i suppose....
@aadi wat does the last sentence mean???(ur reply)
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 01, 2009, 12:39:31 pm
i know!!
it is just simmilar to photoshop!!
and also occupies less spacE!!!

so dont thank me!!
thank sam!!he gave me a year ago!!

i thought you had it!!!

By the way he means that it is easier to write in it now!!
as paint had some difficluties!!

go it??
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: @d!_†oX!© on November 01, 2009, 12:40:53 pm
dude i meant the earlier reply....
"hoo soo thong ..khor nyak yong!"

now u got it???
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 01, 2009, 12:45:59 pm
ohh!!
these are the people who have written good add. math books!!
and i guess they are amongst the bests!!!

now??
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: @d!_†oX!© on November 01, 2009, 12:47:37 pm
ohhh ohhkkk
By the way cool names man!!!!!!
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 01, 2009, 12:48:27 pm
Koreans!!!
the best at maths!!
but i think after Indians!!!
Title: Re: Add. math!! dude slvri/astar/aadi/nebody help..!!!!!
Post by: @d!_†oX!© on November 01, 2009, 12:49:35 pm
yaa
have to be below indians yaar!!!
indians are without any doubt THE BEST at maths
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 01, 2009, 12:58:46 pm
kk
answer this one!!
i guess it is easy!!
but still try!!

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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 01, 2009, 01:00:07 pm
kk
answer this one!!
i guess it is easy!!
but still try!!



u really want it to be solved?..or..just...tp ke liye daala hai?
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Post by: @d!_†oX!© on November 01, 2009, 01:04:51 pm
x2 - y2 = 60               1
x + y = 12                                                2    (squared)


x2 - y2 = 60
x2 + y2 = 144

=>2x2 = 204
=>x2 = 102
=> x = 10.1

y = 1.9

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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 01, 2009, 01:11:45 pm
x2 - y2 = 60               1
x + y = 12                                                2    (squared)


x2 - y2 = 60
x2 + y2 = 144

=>2x2 = 204
=>x2 = 102
=> x = 10.1

y = 1.9



i dont think thats the answer
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 01, 2009, 01:12:08 pm
you are wrong !!!

the ans is 3.5

i guess the mistake was that x2 = y2 = root60

not 60!!
then it wll be x2 = y2 = 7.75
and x2 + y2 =144
then 2x2=151.75
so x=8.7!!

and y=3.9!!!

i guess this is riter now!!

@ aadi - if you wanted ti then you cud have solved it!!!
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 01, 2009, 01:13:56 pm
you are wrong !!!

the ans is 3.5

i guess the mistake was that x2 = y2 = root60

not 60!!
then it wll be x2 = y2 = 7.75
and x2 + y2 =144
then 2x2=151.75
so x=8.7!!

and y=3.9!!!

i guess this is riter now!!

@ aadi - if you wanted ti then you cud have solved it!!!

i already solved it
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Post by: Saladin on November 01, 2009, 01:14:34 pm
I know u r wrong AADI, becasue I know indians are not the best. In fact no particular race is the best at math, mathematics is a complex system that was crafted and created by pretty much everyone.

Thus, the logic behind it goes back to ancient history, before the Indians and far before the koreans. I used to think like that, but then i met smart British people. That changed everything. Its just that they don't show themselves out that much, because a lot of people say that the west lives on stolen money from the east, like the british colonies etc. But that is not true, the people of nobilic birth and understanding still are doing well. The overall students of rich countries show a negative trend, because now education is accessible to everyone. Since the governments of these respective countries like America and Britian have tried to make it available to everyone, the quality has gone down, and now they public schools, apart from a slight few are redundant institutions.

So the people who do well are always a minority because being educated takes time, patience and resilience.

I understand that you may back urself up with stats, but to be honest, its not about statistics, its about the real deal. Like the school i go to is almost the same as urs, they dont teach anything. But, there are private and far more expensive schools for the nobles, or mordernly called the 'rich'. Which will give ppl quality education. See, things really have not changed from mideaval ages, they have become more complex.
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 01, 2009, 01:17:03 pm
I know u r wrong AADI, becasue I know indians are not the best. In fact no particular race is the best at math, mathematics is a complex system that was crafted and created by pretty much everyone.

Thus, the logic behind it goes back to ancient history, before the Indians and far before the koreans. I used to think like that, but then i met smart British people. That changed everything. Its just that they don't show themselves out that much, because a lot of people say that the west lives on stolen money from the east, like the british colonies etc. But that is not true, the people of nobilic birth and understanding still are doing well. The overall students of rich countries show a negative trend, because now education is accessible to everyone. Since the governments of these respective countries like America and Britian have tried to make it available to everyone, the quality has gone down, and now they public schools, apart from a slight few are redundant institutions.

So the people who do well are always a minority because being educated takes time, patience and resilience.

I understand that you may back urself up with stats, but to be honest, its not about statistics, its about the real deal. Like the school i go to is almost the same as urs, they dont teach anything. But, there are private and far more expensive schools for the nobles, or mordernly called the 'rich'. Which will give ppl quality education. See, things really have not changed from mideaval ages, they have become more complex.

apparently , i am "aadi".... the one which u r referring to is "adi" or "adi_toxic"
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Post by: @d!_†oX!© on November 01, 2009, 01:18:29 pm
ok guys chill...its just a small mistake....
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 01, 2009, 01:18:47 pm
i guess dude is seriuos!!
arre we were just jking!!
its our EADA moto!!
and pla dont motivate us to start all those rot again!!!
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Post by: Saladin on November 01, 2009, 01:21:22 pm
just joking too u guys, i just want to see people debate ideas, becasue it helps in IG. Because sometimes ur stuck on a question and there are two logical answers, the only way to the right one is to debate with urself.
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 01, 2009, 01:22:16 pm
i guess you can be our EADA member!!
you really rock to change the topic and all those stuff!!!
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Post by: @d!_†oX!© on November 01, 2009, 01:22:29 pm
i like that idea dude
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Post by: @d!_†oX!© on November 01, 2009, 01:22:56 pm
check out chit-chat for more info!!
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 01, 2009, 01:38:24 pm
baapre pls dont spoil my thread wid EADA virus  :P :P

so have any good question post them here!!
math or add. math both wud do!!
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 07, 2009, 07:36:56 am
have got one question just scaning to post it!!
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Post by: sameer210394 on November 07, 2009, 10:27:53 am
have got one question just scaning to post it!!

were's ur question ... hah
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 07, 2009, 10:30:58 am
5 In this question, i is a unit vector due east, and j is a unit vector due north.
A plane flies from P to Q where
?
PQ = (960i + 400j) km. A constant wind is blowing with velocity
(–60i + 60j) km h–1. Given that the plane takes 4 hours to travel from P to Q, find
(i) the velocity, in still air, of the plane, giving your answer in the form (ai + bj) km h–1, [4]
(ii) the bearing, to the nearest degree, on which the plane must be directed. [2]

here!!!
thi is not what i had t ask!!
but at the momnet igot this!!
i amseraching my pc for that question!!
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Post by: nid404 on November 07, 2009, 10:31:58 am
so u want this answered or not??
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Post by: @d!_†oX!© on November 07, 2009, 10:32:18 am
oye guys ur add. maths paper not over yet???
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 07, 2009, 10:33:30 am
i want the ans!!
add. math paper not yet over it is there on 13 and 11 also!!
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 07, 2009, 10:34:16 am
i have already answere 2 of ur relative velocity questions, look at them again, try to understand, and apply the same concepts here na..

to bhi nahi mila to bol.
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 07, 2009, 10:37:45 am
yeah gotit!!!!!


this is the original doubt i had!!
i tired it but i got ans as 1.3 sec wheas in proving it must be 1.8!!!

help!!
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 07, 2009, 10:39:16 am
i tried this 4 tmes got the same ans!!
each time wid diff method!!
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Post by: nid404 on November 07, 2009, 10:40:50 am
to the previous thing u posted

velocity would be 240i+100j km/hr

and bearing would be 22.62o

correct me if im wrong
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 07, 2009, 10:42:16 am
to the previous thing u posted

velocity would be 240i+100j km/hr

and bearing would be 22.62o

correct me if im wrong
ok!!
first part was easy!!
how did ya get second on??
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 07, 2009, 10:45:58 am
attached

sry that 24 is 240
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 07, 2009, 10:49:18 am
attached
due hoe did you make 24 ka 240???

dint get it!!??

and from where did ya get 300 and 40 explain!!
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Post by: nid404 on November 07, 2009, 10:49:37 am
@adi-which question is that ???
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 07, 2009, 10:50:33 am
yeah gotit!!!!!


this is the original doubt i had!!
i tired it but i got ans as 1.3 sec wheas in proving it must be 1.8!!!

help!!

alien Spacecraft:
->  (12j) +  (40i + 15j)(t)
=> (40t)i + (12 + 15t)j

the missile
=>  (46i) +  (ki +30j)(t-0.5)
=> (46 + k(t - 0.5))i + (30(t-0.5))j
t has to be t - 0.5 here because it left 0.5 seconds after the alien spacecraft


(40t)i + (12 + 15t)j = (46 + k(t - 0.5))i + (30(t-0.5))j

12 + 15t = (30(t-0.5))
12 + 15t = 30t - 15
27 = 15t
t = 1.8
@shrey - sry, that is 240

300 and 40 ..i got it from the vector Vp
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 07, 2009, 10:53:45 am
alien Spacecraft:
->  (12j) +  (40i + 15j)(t)
=> (40t)i + (12 + 15t)j

the missile
=>  (46i) +  (ki +30j)(t-0.5)
=> (46 + k(t - 0.5))i + (30(t-0.5))j
t has to be t - 0.5 here because it left 0.5 seconds after the alien spacecraft


(40t)i + (12 + 15t)j = (46 + k(t - 0.5))i + (30(t-0.5))j

12 + 15t = (30(t-0.5))
12 + 15t = 30t - 15
27 = 15t
t = 1.8
@shrey - sry, that is 240

300 and 40 ..i got it from the vector Vp


ok!!
got it!!
thanx a loads!!!
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Post by: nid404 on November 07, 2009, 10:54:19 am
I'm srry..my bad..I didn't notice the wind blowing ::)
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 07, 2009, 10:54:49 am
np np!!
i got the ans!1
and you had tried too..!!
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Post by: @d!_†oX!© on November 07, 2009, 10:55:04 am
"THANKS A LOADS"????
woow man...gr8 invention!!!
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 07, 2009, 10:55:28 am
ur welcome
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 07, 2009, 10:56:21 am
"THANKS A LOADS"????
woow man...gr8 invention!!!
thanx for this also!!! :P :P
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 07, 2009, 02:19:16 pm
hey i have another question!!


Given that a= 5i - 12j  and b = pi+j. Find,

i) the unit vector in direction of a.???
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Post by: sameer210394 on November 07, 2009, 02:20:54 pm
hey i have another question!!


Given that a= 5i - 12j  and b = pi+j. Find,

i) the unit vector in direction of a.???


abbe chal paka mat, tujhe itna bhi nahi aata ?? :P
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 07, 2009, 02:32:28 pm
dude i am seriuos!!!
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Post by: nid404 on November 07, 2009, 02:36:55 pm
hey i have another question!!


Given that a= 5i - 12j  and b = pi+j. Find,

i) the unit vector in direction of a.???


I didn't really get the question. Do you have to express the vector as a unit vector?? I mean if O is the origin and OA is 5i -12 j then express this as a unit vector......im not gettin it :-\
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Post by: nid404 on November 07, 2009, 02:38:10 pm
@sameer-if u've understood the question plz help him
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 07, 2009, 02:39:20 pm
I guesss aaadi can help me!!

pls dude!!
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Post by: @d!_†oX!© on November 07, 2009, 02:40:51 pm
hey nid..yaar plss help me hear https://studentforums.biz/index.php/topic,4723.45.html
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Post by: nid404 on November 07, 2009, 02:41:28 pm
a cap= vector a/ |a|

Is this what u want to show
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 07, 2009, 02:41:52 pm
sqrt(5^2 + (-12)^2 = sqrt(139) = 13

thus unit vector = \frac{5i - 12j}{13} = \frac{5i}{13} - \frac{12j}{13}
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 07, 2009, 02:43:35 pm
great thanx mann..!!

By the way aadi pls pick up ur land line!!

busy or wat??
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Post by: nid404 on November 07, 2009, 02:52:23 pm
sqrt(5^2 + (-12)^2 = sqrt(139) = 13

thus unit vector = \frac{5i - 12j}{13} = \frac{5i}{13} - \frac{12j}{13}

that's exactly what I said.......

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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 07, 2009, 03:06:11 pm
hey nid..yaar plss help me hear https://studentforums.biz/index.php/topic,4723.45.html

u mean "here"

lol..i hate homophones :P
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Post by: nid404 on November 07, 2009, 03:06:40 pm
no EADA
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Post by: @d!_†oX!© on November 07, 2009, 03:07:37 pm
ohhh yeah...didn't notice dude....
nd nid...dont worry we dont continue these convos for long as long as shrey doesn't comment on anything nd stretch the convo from thn
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Post by: sameer210394 on November 07, 2009, 03:12:04 pm
@sameer-if u've understood the question plz help him

fresk i was havin ma dinner, ny ways adi has answered him, n shrey is wanting adi  to answer all his doubts so y shall i bother... fheww...   :P ;D
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 07, 2009, 03:17:36 pm
chal be...bhau mat kha..he didnt mention dat....u mocked him..so he said he was serious :P

@shrey - abbe, jyaada time nahi hai, book khol ke padhna start kar :P
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Post by: sameer210394 on November 07, 2009, 03:30:27 pm
chal be...bhau mat kha..he didnt mention dat....u mocked him..so he said he was serious :P

@shrey - abbe, jyaada time nahi hai, book khol ke padhna start kar :P

abbey he did, go few pages bak, imean 1 page...

abbey isme bhau kane jaisa kya hein,
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 07, 2009, 03:44:38 pm
abbe if some1 mocks u by saying "tujhe itna bhi nahi aata" to it is clear thatthe person is not gonna answer u.

4get it.. :P
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Post by: @d!_†oX!© on November 07, 2009, 04:08:51 pm
guys y is no one answering my post?????
plsss check IGCSE physics...
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Post by: sameer210394 on November 07, 2009, 04:23:37 pm
abbe if some1 mocks u by saying "tujhe itna bhi nahi aata" to it is clear thatthe person is not gonna answer u.

4get it.. :P

abbey he know the ans)) he wilin away tym... LMAO!!
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 07, 2009, 04:24:42 pm
abbey he know the ans)) he wilin away tym... LMAO!!

lol..actually sahi baat hai , if u can answer the lambda and constants ka vector question..ismein kya hai phir?..rofl
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on November 07, 2009, 04:40:23 pm


this is the original doubt i had!!
i tired it but i got ans as 1.3 sec wheas in proving it must be 1.8!!!

help!!
r(spacecraft)=12j+(40i+15j)t=r(nissile)=46i+(ki+30j)(t-0.5)
equating the i components 40t=46+k(t-0.5)
equating the j components 12+15t=30(t-0.5) from this 27=15t so t=1.8
the from the i component  equation 72=46+2.3k so k=20
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 08, 2009, 12:15:49 pm

this is the original doubt i had!!
i tired it but i got ans as 1.3 sec wheas in proving it must be 1.8!!!

help!!
r(spacecraft)=12j+(40i+15j)t=r(nissile)=46i+(ki+30j)(t-0.5)
equating the i components 40t=46+k(t-0.5)
equating the j components 12+15t=30(t-0.5) from this 27=15t so t=1.8
the from the i component  equation 72=46+2.3k so k=20

thanx a star!!!

helped me alot!!

By the way aadi i did not know how to do it!!
i was not willing away my time!!
waise bhi i have got no time to wile away!!! :P :P
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Post by: sameer210394 on November 08, 2009, 01:27:46 pm
thanx a star!!!

helped me alot!!

By the way aadi i did not know how to do it!!
i was not willing away my time!!
waise bhi i have got no time to wile away!!! :P :P

han han shrey, rehne de tu to....
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 08, 2009, 01:36:46 pm
dude sameer chod de!!!
yaar mera thread spoil mat kar!!
badmein jhagdega!!
pls
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 09, 2009, 05:12:42 pm
add. math paPER IS NEARER!!!

NE BODY HERE WITH NEW DOUBTS!!
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 12, 2009, 02:28:32 pm
i always forget to take unit vector!!

pls help in 2009 m/j Q1

paperm posted here
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on November 12, 2009, 02:37:23 pm
2 mins
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 12, 2009, 02:38:21 pm
i always forget to take unit vector!!

pls help in 2009 m/j Q1

paperm posted here

Q1 isnt anything abt unit vector
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Post by: @d!_†oX!© on November 12, 2009, 02:38:47 pm
add. math paPER IS NEARER!!!

NE BODY HERE WITH NEW DOUBTS!!

dude did u like uddenly remember that u must write in CAPS??!!lol...
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 12, 2009, 02:40:17 pm
arre sorry!!!
m/j p2!!

here is the paper
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 12, 2009, 02:41:40 pm
abbe which question!!
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Post by: .......dA dEviL..... on November 12, 2009, 02:42:24 pm
sum1 put up a link 4 relative velocity notes and 4 vector velocity guyz use this   http://www.teachnet-uk.org.uk/2007%20Projects/Maths-Mechanics_eBook_M1/Vectors/Vectors.pdf
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on November 12, 2009, 02:43:33 pm
try this
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 12, 2009, 02:46:42 pm
i guess i have messed it up again!1

it is m/j 04 paper2
http://www.freeexampapers.us/IGCSE/Additional%20Maths/CIE/2004%20May/add%20maths%20qpaper%202%20M-J%202004.pdf
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 12, 2009, 02:51:45 pm
is that correct ??

-ve ans??
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 12, 2009, 02:53:10 pm
oops sry!

wat does the ms say?
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 12, 2009, 02:53:42 pm
no ms in FEP :(
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Post by: slvri on November 12, 2009, 02:56:29 pm
hey ppl! hw was ur add math ppr?
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 12, 2009, 02:58:47 pm
sry sry

done something rong

( i – 7j ) + x( 0.6i + 0.8j ) = 4i + k j

i-7j +0.6xi + 0.8xj = 4i + kj

(0.6x + 1)i -7j + 0.8xj = 4i + kj

0.6x + 1 = 4

x = 5

k = -7 + 0.8x = -7 + 4 = -3
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 12, 2009, 03:00:00 pm
hey ppl! hw was ur add math ppr?

paper 1 was awesome!..simply outstanding,,,to my knowledge, i lost only 1 till now...but lets see!..hope the results are good! :D
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Post by: slvri on November 12, 2009, 03:01:17 pm
GREAT! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
hope ppr 2 goes just as great
so only add math is left?
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 12, 2009, 03:01:53 pm
thanx slvri for da greetings!!
aadi why did you take x and multiplied it with 0.6 an all those rott!??
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 12, 2009, 03:05:42 pm
the unit vector is 0.6i + 0.8j not the actual vector..the actual vector will be a constant * the unit vector.
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 12, 2009, 03:07:31 pm
so x is the constant!!
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 12, 2009, 03:13:10 pm
yes, when multiplied with the unit vector will give u the actual vector..
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 12, 2009, 03:20:08 pm
thanx for the help!!
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 12, 2009, 03:32:15 pm
another doubt!!

Q11 (iii) and (iv) m/j 1002 paper 1!!

and this time no error
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 12, 2009, 03:36:53 pm
easy g is a quadratic function --> parabola --> inverse till the minimum/maximum point

here

dy.dx = 4x - 8

equate to 0

x  = 2

k=> 2

(iv) u can do it urself
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 12, 2009, 03:45:10 pm
i did not get that one so i did not do it!!!

i knew iii i just had ot confirm

but iv is real problem
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 12, 2009, 04:03:14 pm
wat?!?!

dude!..(iv) is a problem!!! kya paka raha hai be

abbe inverse dhoondne mein kya problem hai??
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 12, 2009, 04:04:10 pm
help karna!!
yaar
jaldi

mereko dusra kaam hai!!
i have to leave early :(
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 12, 2009, 04:06:37 pm
abbe yedhe.

use x = -b (+-) b^2 - 4ac / 2a

bas! khatam!
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 12, 2009, 04:08:20 pm
k!!
and just find x!!
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 12, 2009, 04:12:51 pm
ok lemme solve it

y = 2x^2 - 8x + 5 = 2(x-2)^2  -3

solve for x direcftly

y + 3 = 2(x-2)^2

(x-2)^2 = y+3 /2

x-2 = sqrt(\frac{y+3}{2}

x = sqrt(\frac{y+3}{2} +2

g-1 (x) = 2 + sqrt(\frac{x+3}{2} +2
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 12, 2009, 04:13:49 pm
tks dude!! ;)
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Post by: vaan on November 12, 2009, 04:16:52 pm
i know its a complicated way of showin....but im new so not dat much experienced....

u found perfect square in  (i)...
use dat 1 2 find de g-1
(i) =2(X-2)2+1....
let g(x)= y
y=2(x-2)2 +1...
(y-1)/2= (x-2)2...
{(y-1)/2}1/2= (x-2)...
[{(y-1)/2}1/2]+2=x...
hence g-1(x)=[{(x-1)/2}1/2]+2...
NOW PUT K VALUE....K=2...
g-1(2)=9/4
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Post by: vaan on November 12, 2009, 04:18:50 pm
aadi how u put dat "ROOT OVER"
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 12, 2009, 04:19:57 pm
i know its a complicated way of showin....but im new so not dat much experienced....

u found perfect square in  (i)...
use dat 1 2 find de g-1
(i) =2(X-2)2+1....
let g(x)= y
y=2(x-2)2 +1...
(y-1)/2= (x-2)2...
{(y-1)/2}1/2= (x-2)...
[{(y-1)/2}1/2]+2=x...
hence g-1(x)=[{(x-1)/2}1/2]+2...
NOW PUT K VALUE....K=2...
g-1(2)=9/4
i guess it must be -3
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 12, 2009, 04:21:19 pm
its latex

click on the pi symbol

and type in sqrt(watever u want to type)

like this

sqrt(watever u want to type)

@shrey - what guess!, it has to be -3 @vaan - dude, good method,  but check ur complete the square thingy its not +1 its -3
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Post by: @d!_†oX!© on November 12, 2009, 04:22:43 pm
sqrt(u mean like this??)

...
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 12, 2009, 04:26:32 pm
yes
there are many more things with latex

u can use integration, fraction symbols and stuff

\int sqrt(\frac{hi}{bye})
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 12, 2009, 04:27:03 pm
do not spoil my thread!!
i amy ban you  :P
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Post by: .......dA dEviL..... on November 12, 2009, 04:45:47 pm
Yo banana head..datz y u made me cl ya..u punk..m so kickin u A** 2mrw...n 1 mo thng da answr iz  -3 ...watch wat u doin...n if u gt ne probz..gime a ring..:D:D..
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Post by: vaan on November 12, 2009, 06:48:52 pm
Yo banana head..datz y u made me cl ya..u punk..m so kickin u A** 2mrw...n 1 mo thng da answr iz  -3 ...watch wat u doin...n if u gt ne probz..gime a ring..:D:D..



hey b4 u ans i already understood how2 do it...u cant take de cradit...molla....kobutar..aichana ami chi na ja tui aishob nam use korish na....VALO KORA MATHAR VITOR DUKA...
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Post by: Saladin on November 12, 2009, 06:59:04 pm
hey let ppl hav some fun...

u guys especially Shrey talk a lot on mine....

i dont mind dat much

its just playful.
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 13, 2009, 05:18:05 am
no ms in FEP :(

check xtremepapers, has almost everything

http://www.xtremepapers.net/CIE/index.php?dir=Cambridge%20IGCSE/0606%20-%20Mathematics%20%28Additional%29/
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Post by: sanghvi_994 on November 13, 2009, 05:23:47 am
how was ur add maths paper 1 ??/ :S
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 13, 2009, 05:38:57 am
paper 1 was great!!
hoping that p2 is same :D
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Post by: neelcullen on November 13, 2009, 05:44:28 am
was too gr8 m8! Ive lost kinda 4 marks ova 80! :P
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 13, 2009, 05:46:27 am
check xtremepapers, has almost everything

http://www.xtremepapers.net/CIE/index.php?dir=Cambridge%20IGCSE/0606%20-%20Mathematics%20%28Additional%29/
great site dude!!

evethough i knew it :P
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Post by: sanghvi_994 on November 13, 2009, 05:48:50 am
ya mine to was great... hoping the grade boundaries are low but ;)
paper 2 is gonna be much tougher!!! but hopefully its as good as paper one :) how much time is ur paper in??/
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 13, 2009, 05:55:46 am
pls ans this one!!

m/j 2004 p2 Q5!!

asap
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 13, 2009, 06:24:11 am
ok this is simple, no need to complicated this

follow this : use -b \pm sqrt \frac{(b^2 - 4ac)}{2a} u get the roots as

sqrt(5) + sqrt(3) and sqrt(5) - sqrt(3)

these become c and d

substitute them to 1/c + 1/d and simplify to get root 5
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 13, 2009, 11:32:10 am
k
great!!
thanx dude!!

i gues you were too late

thanx for it

i liked add. math today..

too lengthy but nice
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Post by: sameer210394 on November 13, 2009, 12:01:27 pm
k
great!!
thanx dude!!

i gues you were too late

thanx for it

i liked add. math today..

too lengthy but nice

paper 2 ??? or paper 1???
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 13, 2009, 12:05:32 pm
p2!!

you enjoy dude!!

finished ur exam.....

how did ya manage to finish so early
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 13, 2009, 01:18:15 pm
lol, abbe peche mud ke dekh to andhe, he finished 2-4 mins b4..jab hum submit kar rahe the.. :P
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 13, 2009, 01:41:23 pm
lol, abbe peche mud ke dekh to andhe, he finished 2-4 mins b4..jab hum submit kar rahe the.. :P
dude he had done and left the rrom 10 min before!!
u saw late

u laso finished earlier i was the last one..!!

samjha

By the way good morning..
sapne mien kya dekha :P
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 13, 2009, 01:49:45 pm
abbe oye!

i asked reeta ma'am wen i was giving my paper abt him leaving, she said "bas abhi hi gyay, voh 2 min bhi nahi hue"

chod na!...he has finished it now! we have 1 more to go..lol.. :P
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 13, 2009, 02:30:16 pm
sachi..!!

i think i must not have taken chem for this reason..

if possible y msngr pe aa..!!
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Post by: sameer210394 on November 13, 2009, 05:30:26 pm
p2!!

you enjoy dude!!

finished ur exam.....

how did ya manage to finish so early


abbey i finished at 3:00  whereas the exam was supposed 2 get over by 3:05  lolz sirf paanch min
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 13, 2009, 05:43:14 pm
lol..see told u ..was close
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 14, 2009, 06:55:57 am
dude theexam got over at 3:10

not at 3:5

at least i think
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Post by: sameer210394 on November 14, 2009, 10:00:47 am
dude theexam got over at 3:10

not at 3:5

at least i think

*censored* sake tere ko 5 Min extra mila ???
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 14, 2009, 11:11:10 am
abbe fir i think 3:5 ko hi khatam hua!!
fatte yaarr
check the thread all oct/nov 2009 paper discussion!!
i guy finished it so early he had 40 min left for correction