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Title: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: Q80BOY on May 21, 2009, 06:22:57 pm
hey guys,

as the chemsitry exam is on the 1st of june, u must all be revising, and u MUST have some questions,

so if u have any CHEMISTRY questions, post them here and hopefully some one will help.

Gd Luck  :)

Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: Roza on May 21, 2009, 08:42:22 pm
for now i think i'm confident in wat i've studied for chemistry
nd its on the 1st of junee thats a loooong time still
lollzz ;D ;D
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Post by: annie_angel on May 21, 2009, 09:49:55 pm
i hav a question...if the question has an acid and a base given and they mention tht water IS the acid and they ask Y does water behaves like acid....wat is the answer and plz briefly explain
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Post by: angell on May 21, 2009, 10:02:02 pm
I think because acids are proton doners or hydrogen donor....and water has hydrogen :S:S im sorry i havent touched chem since p6 so f orgotten all of it

:P!
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Post by: twilight on May 21, 2009, 10:03:51 pm
yeah i think thats rite .. bcoz it has H+ in its molecule .. so its a hydrogen donor just like an acid
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Post by: sanity_master on May 21, 2009, 11:57:14 pm
it acts as an acid because it acts as a proton donor.
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Post by: sweetsh on May 22, 2009, 03:39:47 am
Good start Q80BOY
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Post by: examsaresoon on May 22, 2009, 05:00:39 am
Hey! I have a question...

In the production of Aluminum, Sodium Hydroxide is used to separate Aluminum Oxide from the impurities in bauxite ore. The Main impurity in the ore is Iron(3) Oxide. Aluminum Oxide is an amphoteric oxide whilst Iron(3) Oxide us a basic oxide.
Suggest how these two oxides can be separated by the addition of aqueous Sodium Hydroxide.
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: shaxter8 on May 22, 2009, 08:56:39 am
Hey, could you pls send me the chem & physics resources you were talking about?

My Email is:     aum8888@gmail.com

Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: Q80BOY on May 22, 2009, 09:02:52 am
Hey, could you pls send me the chem & physics resources you were talking about?

My Email is:     aum8888@gmail.com



i sent u one,

and plz guys, this thread is for questions and answers ONLY, if u need any resources post ur requests in the main thread,

thanks
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Post by: crypsAnity on May 22, 2009, 09:05:42 am
I love Chemistry .. only subject im good at .. lol .. right Water acts as an acid.. because well yeah its a proton donor.. also remember the fact its sort of amphoteric.. it can both donate or accept.. at different cases ..
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: crypsAnity on May 22, 2009, 09:09:33 am
Hey! I have a question...

In the production of Aluminum, Sodium Hydroxide is used to separate Aluminum Oxide from the impurities in bauxite ore. The Main impurity in the ore is Iron(3) Oxide. Aluminum Oxide is an amphoteric oxide whilst Iron(3) Oxide us a basic oxide.
Suggest how these two oxides can be separated by the addition of aqueous Sodium Hydroxide.

Yeah because you see.. Aluminum Oxide is Amphoteric..so with the addition of Sodium Hydroxide it would react with aluminium oxide.. leaving behind Iron Oxide.. therefore seperating em.. hmmm hope it helped ..
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Post by: crypsAnity on May 22, 2009, 09:11:11 am
p.s and yes as iron oxide is basic it would definitely not react with NAOH ..
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Post by: Shogun on May 22, 2009, 03:02:06 pm
i hav a question...if the question has an acid and a base given and they mention tht water IS the acid and they ask Y does water behaves like acid....wat is the answer and plz briefly explain

water if u see it in the product side it will loose one hydrogen. therefore acids tend to loose protons(h+) ions and give it to bases. so u see water behaves like acid as it GIVES or DONATES  protons
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: annie_angel on May 22, 2009, 05:29:23 pm
thnak u all!!!tht waz seriously a gud help!!!
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Post by: Hope on May 23, 2009, 11:22:57 am
Hey..
Could anyone please post the markschemes of Chemistry Paper 3 for the following years:
June, November 1999
June, November 2000
June, November 2001

And if anyone could kindly post any older past papers..

Thank you in advance  :)
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: sweetsh on May 23, 2009, 11:31:34 am
Q80BOY used to have them but no longer, so please ask somebody else who have them
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: sanity_master on May 23, 2009, 11:33:05 am
i got them!!
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: sweetsh on May 23, 2009, 11:34:19 am
Good. So please Hope give your email to sanity master so he can send them to you
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: Hope on May 23, 2009, 11:35:43 am
haha you mean Hope :p
sanity_master, are you going to attach/email?
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Post by: sweetsh on May 23, 2009, 11:36:36 am
Oh sorry!
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Post by: sanity_master on May 23, 2009, 11:39:25 am
im attaching them right now but they r taking forever.....


i will e-mail it to ya, faster......wts ur email??


p.s: i will attach them too for other ppl to benefit :)
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: Hope on May 23, 2009, 11:43:05 am
I msged you my email..
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: sanity_master on May 23, 2009, 11:51:00 am
it is gonna take some time.....im attaching them right now on the e-mail...

u will get them soon.....
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: godfather93 on May 23, 2009, 12:02:33 pm
do u want me to send it?
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: sanity_master on May 23, 2009, 12:04:54 pm
do u want me to send it?

kk....the files i got r huge..over 4 Mb...thats y they r taking forever

u do it, if urs is faster


sry HOPE.....couldnt help  :-[
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: Hope on May 23, 2009, 12:06:45 pm
It's okay sanity_master, thanks for the trouble anyway :)
And godfather..that would be great. So, attaching or emailing?
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: godfather93 on May 23, 2009, 12:07:10 pm
i have the files already attached from before. So what's ur email hope?
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: Hope on May 23, 2009, 12:07:46 pm
I'll send it to you in a msg now.
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: sanity_master on May 23, 2009, 12:29:11 pm
ohh By the way...i sent them by e-mail ...my computer is workin by itself :D lol

Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: Hope on May 23, 2009, 12:30:47 pm
thank you so much sanity_master and godfather!!  :D
highly appreciated (a)
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: godfather93 on May 23, 2009, 12:31:01 pm
i sent it as well! oh well! :D
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: sanity_master on May 23, 2009, 12:39:44 pm
lol......no harm with that :D lol
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Post by: Hope on May 23, 2009, 12:46:24 pm
By the way..gave you both +reps
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Post by: sanity_master on May 23, 2009, 12:50:09 pm
Thanks....hope they r useful :D
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Post by: frenzy1234 on May 24, 2009, 01:39:46 pm
dunno if this is the right place but anywas ...
ive done past papers from 2003-2008 for chem pp3
and i dnt have any more papers nor are any papers avalible online cn sm1 help me on how i shld practise now??
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: asus on May 24, 2009, 08:15:56 pm
can anyone here help me with the oxidant and reductant...??..
like in ppr3 june 06...question 6 ( c )...
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: godfather93 on May 24, 2009, 08:20:05 pm
the reductant is zinc and the oxidant is hydrogen
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: asus on May 24, 2009, 08:22:47 pm
the reductant is zinc and the oxidant is hydrogen

thanks..but could u explain it?..
 :)
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: godfather93 on May 24, 2009, 08:27:58 pm
first of all the definitions of reductant and oxidant are
reductant - causes the other element to be reduced. when this happens the reductant is oxidised (loses electrons)
oxidant - cause the other element to be oxidised. when this happens the oxidant is reduced (gains electrons)

zinc is the reductant because it is being oxidised. the metal is being transformed into ions and electrons are given out (hence the zinc rod becomes thinner)
hydrogen is the oxidant because the hydrogen ions in the electrolyte is being changed into hydrogen gas(hydrogen is being reduced)
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: asus on May 24, 2009, 08:31:54 pm
first of all the definitions of reductant and oxidant are
reductant - causes the other element to be reduced. when this happens the reductant is oxidised (loses electrons)
oxidant - cause the other element to be oxidised. when this happens the oxidant is reduced (gains electrons)

zinc is the reductant because it is being oxidised. the metal is being transformed into ions and electrons are given out (hence the zinc rod becomes thinner)
hydrogen is the oxidant because the hydrogen ions in the electrolyte is being changed into hydrogen gas(hydrogen is being reduced)

i think i got it...
million thanks to u.. :D
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: godfather93 on May 24, 2009, 08:48:25 pm
welcome all the way! :D
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: MaNa on May 25, 2009, 08:39:12 am
I need help in chemistry  oct/nov 08 second varient paper
Q 7ai)
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: Roza on May 25, 2009, 10:01:21 am
I need help in chemistry  oct/nov 08 second varient paper
Q 7ai)
i actually got this question for my mocks

here's the working
volume of oxygen left
according to question             according to equation
1 mol                                         6.5 mol
if 20cm3                                           x??
so 20 x 6.5 = 130cm3

150-130 = 20cm3

so volume of oxygen left = 20cm3

volume of carbondioxide formed

1                       4
20                     x??
so 20 x 4 = 80

volume of carbondioxide formed = 80cm3
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: MaNa on May 25, 2009, 10:05:09 am
I need help in chemistry  oct/nov 08 second varient paper
Q 7ai)
i actually got this question for my mocks

here's the working
volume of oxygen left
according to question             according to equation
1 mol                                         6.5 mol
if 20cm3                                           x??
so 20 x 6.5 = 130cm3

150-130 = 20cm3

so volume of oxygen left = 20cm3

volume of carbondioxide formed

1                       4
20                     x??
so 20 x 4 = 80

volume of carbondioxide formed = 80cm3
Thankyou but wont we use the formulaa???
n umm why did u subtracted it form 150?
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: Roza on May 25, 2009, 10:12:06 am
I need help in chemistry  oct/nov 08 second varient paper
Q 7ai)
i actually got this question for my mocks

here's the working
volume of oxygen left
according to question             according to equation
1 mol                                         6.5 mol
if 20cm3                                           x??
so 20 x 6.5 = 130cm3

150-130 = 20cm3

so volume of oxygen left = 20cm3

volume of carbondioxide formed

1                       4
20                     x??
so 20 x 4 = 80

volume of carbondioxide formed = 80cm3
Thankyou but wont we use the formulaa???
n umm why did u subtracted it form 150?

no there is no need to use a formulae

n oxygen is in excess n we want to find the volume of oxygen left at the end of experiment
so 150-130= 20
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: MaNa on May 25, 2009, 10:14:33 am
I need help in chemistry  oct/nov 08 second varient paper
Q 7ai)
i actually got this question for my mocks

here's the working
volume of oxygen left
according to question             according to equation
1 mol                                         6.5 mol
if 20cm3                                           x??
so 20 x 6.5 = 130cm3

150-130 = 20cm3

so volume of oxygen left = 20cm3

volume of carbondioxide formed

1                       4
20                     x??
so 20 x 4 = 80

volume of carbondioxide formed = 80cm3
Thankyou but wont we use the formulaa???
n umm why did u subtracted it form 150?

no there is no need to use a formulae

n oxygen is in excess n we want to find the volume of oxygen left at the end of experiment
so 150-130= 20
alright thankyou
+ rep for u ;D
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Post by: Aishath on May 25, 2009, 12:12:33 pm
hey everyone...
can someone explain to me titration briefly cos i am not really gud at topic..
Thanks
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Post by: nid404 on May 25, 2009, 12:21:02 pm
Titration

An accurately measured volume of a solution is normally placed in a conical flask and the other in a burette. The solution from the burette is added slowly until the solution in the flask has completely been used up by the reaction. This is shown by the use of an indicator. The volume of the solution used can then be read off the burette scale.

This technique is most commonly used for acid-base reactions
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Post by: Aishath on May 25, 2009, 12:25:28 pm
thanks nid404!!!
great explanation!!! i understood it well....

+ rep for u! ;)
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Post by: annie_angel on May 25, 2009, 12:28:10 pm
wat are macromolecular structures and giant molecular stictures?i keep on 4getting these 2 all the tym...:(
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Post by: hyebyekadal on May 25, 2009, 12:31:11 pm
macromolecules diamonds  silica and germanium(i think about that not too sure)
giant molecular structures i think are just like giant molecules i guess
im not too sure myself!! i better go revise again myself!
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Post by: nid404 on May 25, 2009, 12:34:21 pm
I believe both are the same-giant and macro

can u give me the exact question. w8 hybye said was right in a way. if your talking about giant covalent molecules then it's diamond, silica,graphite


germanium is an element so that is wrong
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Post by: MaNa on May 25, 2009, 12:35:08 pm
wat are macromolecular structures and giant molecular stictures?i keep on 4getting these 2 all the tym...:(
MAcro molecules:they are giant covelant sturcures which have million of atoms held together by covelent bond
like diamond , siliconoxide(sand) , graphite etc
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Post by: annie_angel on May 25, 2009, 12:36:59 pm
I believe both are the same-giant and macro

can u give me the exact question. w8 hybye said was right in a way. if your talking about giant covalent molecules then it's diamond, silica,graphite


germanium is an element so that is wrong
its not a question...i just need da meanings... ;D
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Post by: godfather93 on May 25, 2009, 12:40:26 pm
a giant molecule is called a macro molecule. hence, it is the same thing.
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Post by: annie_angel on May 25, 2009, 12:42:25 pm
really?cuz these two were writtn separately in one of my book...
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Post by: nid404 on May 25, 2009, 12:42:45 pm
k here u go

According to my collins A-Z chemistry dictionary
 
A macromolecule is a term usually used for molecules with a relative molecular mass value greater than 1000, namely polymers such as carbohydrates and plastics, and molecules such as proteins and nucleic acids.
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Post by: annie_angel on May 25, 2009, 12:44:34 pm
thank u all!!atleast they turned out to be easier now...:D...+rep
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Post by: afarooq on May 25, 2009, 01:41:48 pm
The Kinetic Theory explains the properties of solids, liquids and gases in terms of the
movement of particles.
Liquids and gases both take up the shape of the container but a gas always fills the
container. Explain this, using the ideas of the Kinetic Theory.


A question from the m/j 2002 paper, but i dont understand it, please help!
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Post by: MaNa on May 25, 2009, 02:08:18 pm
In liquid molecules are free to move about between clusters but confined within the vessel they are contianed in due to the attractive force between theem
In Gas molecules are high speed independent motion in random manner there is Niegligable force of attraction
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Post by: afarooq on May 25, 2009, 02:18:34 pm
cheeerrsss  :)
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Post by: MaNa on May 25, 2009, 02:19:45 pm
oie dont forget + rep :)
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Post by: xiao on May 25, 2009, 03:40:25 pm
Gases have particles all disordered meanwhile solids are orderes and liquid has low ordered and hihg disordered particles. this is wat i found in books :D
Title: Chemistry 2009!!! Paper 3 prep.....
Post by: Naruto on May 25, 2009, 05:53:07 pm
hello guyz i have started this topic because i have some confusion in some topics!!
Like i am not sure whether to study the basic more or experiments or organic chemistry for paper 3. Which of them is more important... hope you will help me!!! :)
thanx..
Title: Re: Chemistry 2009!!! Paper 3 prep.....
Post by: Monica on May 25, 2009, 06:03:16 pm
For paper 3 unfortunately u have to study everything i guess!! :)
Title: Re: Chemistry 2009!!! Paper 3 prep.....
Post by: Naruto on May 25, 2009, 06:09:07 pm
ahan true!! but i meant that which one is more improtant to study first for revision.
Title: Re: Chemistry 2009!!! Paper 3 prep.....
Post by: Monica on May 25, 2009, 06:12:54 pm
ahan true!! but i meant that which one is more improtant to study first for revision.

ok i guess:

1)Organic chemistry
2)Metals
3)Electrolysis
4)Rust prevention
5)Sulphur, Air, Water, Carbohydrates


I think.... all will come...but Metals is an important topic...
Title: Re: Chemistry 2009!!! Paper 3 prep.....
Post by: godfather93 on May 25, 2009, 06:20:39 pm
a question on quantitative chemistry always comes.
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Post by: Shogun on May 25, 2009, 06:25:17 pm
1)organic chemistry(all equations and thier rquirements eg catalyst,temp etc and thier properties and uses)
2)metals
3)sulphur and nitrogen (all equations and thier requirements and what are the properties of reversible equations and uses)
4)everythin about reactivity series and thier properties and reactions (even electrloysis)
5)polymerisations (their types and uses and how terlene and nylons are made and what are thier uses)
6)properties and understanding and drwaing of ionic,covalent and metallic bondings
7)properties od groups in periodic table
8)basic stuffs about solid liquids and gases and thier properties
9) how to do calculations in chemistry

it mostly about everythin but i think this is more convenient to start with.
and do practise past papers

all revision of these things take about maximum 3 days
Title: Re: Chemistry 2009!!! Paper 3 prep.....
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on May 25, 2009, 06:27:03 pm
hey shogun chk out d "a request" thread..
i have explained abt the binomial theorm in math..!!
Title: Re: Chemistry 2009!!! Paper 3 prep.....
Post by: Shogun on May 25, 2009, 06:27:35 pm
alright
Title: Re: Chemistry 2009!!! Paper 3 prep.....
Post by: Pythagoras on May 25, 2009, 06:51:33 pm
The syllabus is really helpful. It clearly indicates what to study. The syllabus is guiding my studies!  :D
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: Bani on May 25, 2009, 08:30:33 pm
I need help in chemistry  oct/nov 08 second varient paper
Q 7ai)
i actually got this question for my mocks

here's the working
volume of oxygen left
according to question             according to equation
1 mol                                         6.5 mol
if 20cm3                                           x??
so 20 x 6.5 = 130cm3

150-130 = 20cm3

so volume of oxygen left = 20cm3

volume of carbondioxide formed

1                       4
20                     x??
so 20 x 4 = 80

volume of carbondioxide formed = 80cm3
Thankyou but wont we use the formulaa???
n umm why did u subtracted it form 150?

no there is no need to use a formulae

n oxygen is in excess n we want to find the volume of oxygen left at the end of experiment
so 150-130= 20

Hey, correct me someone if Im wrong. For part i) don't we simply write down the volume of the reagent which is not in access? So, there is no need to subtract or is there?
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: godfather93 on May 25, 2009, 08:43:56 pm
can someone please tell me the concept of oxidation states and how is it worked out?
Title: Re: Chemistry 2009!!! Paper 3 prep.....
Post by: hummer618 on May 25, 2009, 09:48:11 pm
guys there is a rumour, saying that there will be no


- Organinc chemistry,
- Reactivity Series
- moles
-Endo or Exo thermic thingys

however will be

Rates of Reactions,
Bonding
and da rest


ur welcome


i am soo bloody confident
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: twilight on May 25, 2009, 09:51:40 pm
u will b knowing the total oxidation state of the compound ...
if its a compound .. then the oxidation state is zero
if its an ion then the oxidation state is the final charge on that ion

now suppose we take KMnO4  .. the final oxidation sate is zero .. because there is no overall charge on the compound
suppose u wanna get the oxidation number of Mn .. assume it to be x
we know that K is +1 , and O is -2 ....    this is how u do it
   (+1) + x + (-2)(4)  = 0
solve algebrically so x = 7
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Post by: godfather93 on May 25, 2009, 10:01:37 pm
u will b knowing the total oxidation state of the compound ...
if its a compound .. then the oxidation state is zero
if its an ion then the oxidation state is the final charge on that ion

now suppose we take KMnO4  .. the final oxidation sate is zero .. because there is no overall charge on the compound
suppose u wanna get the oxidation number of Mn .. assume it to be x
we know that K is +1 , and O is -2 ....    this is how u do it
   (+1) + x + (-2)(4)  = 0
solve algebrically so x = 7
thank u so much 4 ur response. (+rep) i read the same method in one of the other sites and i understand very well now.
this is the site i used
http://www.chemguide.co.uk/inorganic/redox/oxidnstates.html

do u know what is the oxidation state? as in what is it meant to represent in an atom.
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Post by: cockyxrocker on May 26, 2009, 07:13:10 am
hey could anyone gimme the list of water soluble and insoluble gases
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Post by: nid404 on May 26, 2009, 08:35:51 am
hey could anyone gimme the list of water soluble and insoluble gases

well common ones that dissolve are

Hydrogen chloride
Hydrogen sulphide
Ammonia
Oxygen
Carbon dioxide
Nitrogen dioxide
Chlorine gas
Carbon monoxide
nitrous oxide

Actually most gases dissolve in water but have different values of solubility. But those gases are complex so I think these should be enough for our syllabus

Ill try to get a full list if possible
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Post by: Shogun on May 26, 2009, 09:16:35 am
By the way,all amphotric dissolves
Title: Re: Chemistry 2009!!! Paper 3 prep.....
Post by: Naruto on May 26, 2009, 12:29:47 pm
@ Monica and Shogun
thank u guyz for your guidance +rep for both of you :)

@hummer618
well i havent heard about that kind of rumour before.... so sorry cant say anything. but i think that you should prepare for these topics.
Title: Re: Chemistry 2009!!! Paper 3 prep.....
Post by: Bessy on May 26, 2009, 03:09:18 pm
 our teacher made a summary according to the syllabus.
 and i just review it +reading the organic part word by word before the mock exam
 and i get A   just a few marks more to get A *
 so if you know very well about syllabus and+ read some important chapter carefully
 u will succeed.
Title: Re: Chemistry 2009!!! Paper 3 prep.....
Post by: annie_angel on May 26, 2009, 03:29:04 pm
ahan true!! but i meant that which one is more improtant to study first for revision.

ok i guess:

1)Organic chemistry
2)Metals
3)Electrolysis
4)Rust prevention
5)Sulphur, Air, Water, Carbohydrates


I think.... all will come...but Metals is an important topic...

6) mole concept
7)redox reactions
Title: Re: Chemistry 2009!!! Paper 3 prep.....
Post by: Shogun on May 26, 2009, 04:15:23 pm
guys there is a rumour, saying that there will be no


- Organinc chemistry,
- Reactivity Series
- moles
-Endo or Exo thermic thingys

however will be

Rates of Reactions,
Bonding
and da rest


ur welcome


i am soo bloody confident


no way man the life of paper 3 runs on these thing, what im saying is tht without this, there really isnt any paper 3.
 Organinc chemistry,
- Reactivity Series
- moles
-Endo or Exo thermic thingys

these are always there in paper3 chemistry
Title: Re: Chemistry 2009!!! Paper 3 prep.....
Post by: gonnagetana on May 26, 2009, 04:21:41 pm
Hey, does anyone know what colour change occurs when potassium iodide is reduced??? Its in the syllabus, you gotta know this!!!!
Title: Re: Chemistry 2009!!! Paper 3 prep.....
Post by: Shogun on May 26, 2009, 05:13:22 pm
usually turns yellow i think
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: lana on May 26, 2009, 05:25:19 pm
hi all ... i'v been stuck trying to solve this question since forever please somebody help it's in October\November 2001 question 3 a
Thanks aloot :)
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Post by: sweetsh on May 26, 2009, 05:34:33 pm
Okay here is it.
They are 5-25
Because for 3CO2 it was 15cm3
15/3 =5
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Post by: lana on May 26, 2009, 05:39:33 pm
and from were did we get the 25 ?
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Post by: Naruto on May 26, 2009, 06:08:55 pm
well i think that colour will be black ,because iodide is reduced to iodine and it is a black solid in colour... +rep if i m correct  ;)
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Post by: Shogun on May 26, 2009, 06:36:16 pm
hey lana

it goes like this


3 mols of co2 give 15 cm3
so what will 5 mols of oxygen give?
its simply cross multiplication

no. of mols                 volume
     3                            15
     5                              ?

so (5 x 15)
   ---------= 25cm3
        3

then to get the volume for propanol (C3H8) which is 1 mol ,do the same

no. of mols                   volume
      3                              15
      1                                ?
 
so    (1 x 15)
     ----------  = 5cm3
           3

so the answer is for oxygen=25     and   for  propanol=5

hope u understand, any confusion or difficluties or help, plz do ask me
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Post by: ap105 on May 26, 2009, 09:55:57 pm
@ gonnagetana:

Hello ! I'm new here .... ermm ... Potassium iodide by itself is white in colour .... Aged and impure samples are yellow because of
oxidation of the iodide to iodine ...

Since the iodide ion is a mild reducing agent, I? is easily oxidised to I2 by powerful oxidising agents such as chlorine:

    2 KI(aq) + Cl2(aq) ? 2 KCl + I2(aq)

This reaction is employed in the isolation of iodine from natural sources. Even air will oxidize iodide as evidenced by the observation of a purple extract when aged samples of KI are rinsed with dichloromethane. As formed under acidic conditions, hydroiodic acid (HI) is a stronger reducing agent.[3][4][5]

Like other iodide salts, KI forms I3? when combined with elemental iodine.

    KI(aq) + I2(s) ? KI3(aq)

Unlike I2, I3? salts can be highly water-soluble. Through this reaction iodine is used in redox titrations. Aqueous KI3, "Lugol's solution," are used as disinfectants and as etchants for gold surfaces.

Potassium iodide is the precursor to silver(I) iodide, which are used for high speed photographic film:

    KI(aq) + AgNO3(aq) ? AgI(s) + KNO3(aq)

Hence, Chlorine is reacted with KI to obtain Iodine

KI + HCl (strong reducing agent - stronger than the iodide ion) --> No reaction -- both reagents are water soluble
 
Source: Wikipedia & http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070919134841AAUqbvK ... :P

Hope this helps !
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Post by: Nanavel on May 26, 2009, 10:15:41 pm
An alloy contains zinc and Copper . A small sample of this alloy was dissolved in acid to give a soluion containing zinc and copper ions.
Explain what would happen when an excess of each of the following reagents is separatly added to this solution.

i) Iron Fillings

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ii) Sodium Hydroxide
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Post by: MaNa on May 26, 2009, 10:31:15 pm
i am not sure but
when NaOn is added to a solution contain Cu Deep dark blue solution is foremed
n even with Zn it forms White ppl :S
wite Iron filing i guess the solution turns into blue to grrenish/reddish :S
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Post by: AS girl on May 26, 2009, 10:35:52 pm
Hey, does anyone know what colour change occurs when potassium iodide is reduced??? Its in the syllabus, you gotta know this!!!!


Colour changes from colourless to dark brown and a black solid may form as well ;)hope i helped
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Post by: Nanavel on May 26, 2009, 10:40:18 pm
I was thinking the same too but i thought i was wronge .. (+rep) Thanx for the help
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Post by: MaNa on May 26, 2009, 10:46:18 pm
I was thinking the same too but i thought i was wronge .. (+rep) Thanx for the help
lol its ok which yr was this question in?
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Post by: Monica on May 26, 2009, 10:47:47 pm
Hey, does anyone know what colour change occurs when potassium iodide is reduced??? Its in the syllabus, you gotta know this!!!!


Colour changes from colourless to dark brown and a black solid may form as well ;)hope i helped


+REP u for the 2nd time as i promised!!
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Post by: AS girl on May 26, 2009, 10:54:46 pm
Hey, does anyone know what colour change occurs when potassium iodide is reduced??? Its in the syllabus, you gotta know this!!!!


Colour changes from colourless to dark brown and a black solid may form as well ;)hope i helped


+REP u for the 2nd time as i promised!!



l ;D
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Post by: AS girl on May 26, 2009, 10:58:40 pm

An alloy contains zinc and Copper . A small sample of this alloy was dissolved in acid to give a soluion containing zinc and copper ions.
Explain what would happen when an excess of each of the following reagents is separatly added to this solution.

i) Iron Fillings
effervescenses-bubbles of colourless gas. With lighted splint it pops (Hydrogen)
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------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2]

ii) Sodium Hydroxide
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zinc-white precipetation soluble in excess
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Copper-blue ppt becomes soluble in excess solution changes to deep blue(royal)







I'm not sure of the answer!!
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Post by: gonnagetana on May 27, 2009, 02:13:45 am
thats interesting, i got a whole bunch of different answers
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Post by: archangel on May 27, 2009, 08:34:55 am

An alloy contains zinc and Copper . A small sample of this alloy was dissolved in acid to give a soluion containing zinc and copper ions.
Explain what would happen when an excess of each of the following reagents is separatly added to this solution.

i) Iron Fillings
effervescenses-bubbles of colourless gas. With lighted splint it pops (Hydrogen)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2]

ii) Sodium Hydroxide
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
zinc-white precipetation soluble in excess
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2]
Copper-blue ppt becomes soluble in excess solution changes to deep blue(royal)


I'm not sure of the answer!!

the first one:
the iron fillings would displace the copper while the iron filings would be displaced by zinc, bcoz it is more reactive than iron.
brown red solid will be found on the bottom on the beaker.

second one:
zinc- white ppt. souble in excess giving colourless solution
copper - light blue ppt. formed in excess
[blue ppt. soluble in excess giving dark blue solution is for aqueous ammonia]

i hope its correct and this helps =)
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Post by: zubair_slipknot on May 27, 2009, 08:58:33 am
Reactivity table    /\
                         |
Potassium            |
Sodium                |
Calcium               |
Magmesium          |
aluminium            |
carbon               |
zinc                   |
iron                   |
tin                    |    Increasing of reactivity
lead                  |
hydrogen           |
copper              |
silver                |
gold                  |
platinum            |


Sorry could not draw a good arrow for the increasing of reactivity...hope this helps
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Post by: sweetsh on May 27, 2009, 09:01:41 am
I know it like this
K
Na
Li
Ca
Mg
Al
Zn
Fe
Sn
Pb
Cu
Ag
Au
Pt
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Post by: zubair_slipknot on May 27, 2009, 09:03:22 am
yes its absolutely like this

by the way how is the production of iron in the blast furnace
Title: Re: Chemistry 2009!!! Paper 3 prep.....
Post by: Bessy on May 27, 2009, 09:38:25 am
Hey, does anyone know what colour change occurs when potassium iodide is reduced??? Its in the syllabus, you gotta know this!!!!
  umm  there is no color for iodine ion i am sure
 when iodine become atom (that with no overall charge)  its colour is yellow
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Post by: lana on May 27, 2009, 09:58:47 am
hey lana

it goes like this


3 mols of co2 give 15 cm3
so what will 5 mols of oxygen give?
its simply cross multiplication

no. of mols                 volume
     3                            15
     5                              ?

so (5 x 15)
   ---------= 25cm3
        3

then to get the volume for propanol (C3H8) which is 1 mol ,do the same

no. of mols                   volume
      3                              15
      1                                ?
 
so    (1 x 15)
     ----------  = 5cm3
           3

so the answer is for oxygen=25     and   for  propanol=5

hope u understand, any confusion or difficluties or help, plz do ask me



thank you very much you saved my life !!!  =]
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Post by: Shogun on May 27, 2009, 10:03:57 am
ure welcome, dnt forget to +rep me (god i hate sayin this, makes me fell im selfish)
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Post by: MaNa on May 27, 2009, 10:54:08 am
yes its absolutely like this

by the way how is the production of iron in the blast furnace
iron production
Raw material Iron ore coke lime stone
temperature 1900*C
1) C+O2= CO2
2) Co2+C=2CO
the CO2 rises n reacts with more C to orm C0
3) Feo3 +2co= 2fe +3co2
the Co reduced the iorn ore at the top of the furnace to molten iron metal (pig iron) which fallls to the bottom of the furnace n Co2 escapes freom the top as a waste gas
4) limestoen is present to help remove impruties .the main impuritty is sand (silicon oxide) inside the furnace the limestone  decompses tof orm Cao  n co2
CaCo3=CaO +co2
5) the co2 whch is produces reacts with the hot coke yo produce more Co but the lime combines with the sand impurity to form a molten slag alled Calcium siliate
CaO+ SiO2=CaSiO3
the slag bcuz its molten runs to the bottom of the furnace asd its lighter then molten iron thus it floats on the surface n can be tapped off
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Post by: lana on May 27, 2009, 12:56:48 pm
if propanol and propanoic acid react they give an ester can anybody please name that ester and draw it's structural formula...
thanks
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Post by: MaNa on May 27, 2009, 01:35:20 pm
if propanol and propanoic acid react they give an ester can anybody please name that ester and draw it's structural formula...
thanks

C3H7OH+C2H5COOH=   C2H5COOC3H7 +H2O
name:proylpropenoate ( not sure)
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Post by: lana on May 27, 2009, 01:39:12 pm
thank you =]
+rep
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Post by: MaNa on May 27, 2009, 01:42:42 pm
CORRECTION
C2H5COOC3H7
n thx for + rep
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Post by: nid404 on May 27, 2009, 03:26:41 pm
here propyl propanoate     (http://www.gcsescience.com/propyl-propanoate.gif)
Title: Re: Chemistry 2009!!! Paper 3 prep.....
Post by: Naruto on May 27, 2009, 03:44:57 pm
well Bessy i think that potassium is yellow not iodine...
and ioden is purple/black that wat i think...
and +rep if i m correct :)
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Post by: lana on May 27, 2009, 04:30:44 pm
thank you that really helped =]
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Post by: Igcseboy on May 27, 2009, 05:47:20 pm
All moles formula plzzz attach here anyone thnxzzzzzzz  :-X
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Post by: Shogun on May 27, 2009, 05:54:05 pm
to find the number of mole with mass and Mr and Ar.
Moles=mass/Ar or Mr

to find number moles with volume
moles= volume in dm3 / 24

if the volume was in cm3 then devide it by 10000. (to do any calculations with volume in it, the volume must be in dm3)
volume in dm3= volume in cm3/1000

to find number of moles interms of volume in dm3 and concentration (unit=(v/dm3))
moles= volume in dm3 x concentration

thts all with the moles. hope it helped
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Post by: MaNa on May 27, 2009, 07:20:38 pm
Can someone explain me Q5 (p3 M/J 08)
its equlibirum i
i need to understand
I POSTION OF EQULIBRUM n WHAT HAPPENEDS  ??? ???
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Post by: Bani on May 27, 2009, 07:59:39 pm
Can someone explain me Q5 (p3 M/J 08)
its equlibirum i
i need to understand
I POSTION OF EQULIBRUM n WHAT HAPPENEDS  ??? ???

Q5ai) The concentration of the reactants will increase (as the equilibrium shifts to the left) and the concentration of the products will decrease.

*Equilibrium justmeansthe 'balance' of a reaction; when it says the equilibrium shifts left, it refers to the fact that the reaction goes backwards and instead of producing more products, the reactants are produced.

5aii)-The position shifts to the left because decreasing the pressure on the reaction favours the side of the equation with the highest volume of gases (a.k.a. moles/molecules of gas).
5b)-The forward reaction is exothermic, because a decrease in temperature favours the forward reaction, so it must be exothermic.

Our teacher told us to think of the equlibrium like this: there is a naugty boy and he does exactly the opposite of what you tell him to do. So, using the above scenario, lowering the pressure favours the side with higher volume of gas. And, lowering the temperature favours the exothermic temperature (heat given out). If you see, in both the cases the opposite is happening.
I hope its clear :)
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Post by: lana on May 27, 2009, 09:56:52 pm
ok i know it's a stupid question but i think my mind just stopped !!
when I2 reacts with Cl2 what is the product ? and how did you find it ?
thanks
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Post by: sweetsh on May 27, 2009, 10:13:18 pm
Is that a question in the past papers?!
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Post by: X Abdulrahman X on May 27, 2009, 10:15:47 pm
yep and thats in p3, MJ05 Q1
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Post by: lana on May 27, 2009, 10:19:17 pm
ya that's right in the mark scheme the answer is I2 + 3Cl2 = 2ICl3 but i cant figure out why  ??
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Post by: sweetsh on May 27, 2009, 10:21:41 pm
Oh! Didnt notice that.
Its: (c)  I2 +3Cl2 ->2ICl3
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Post by: lana on May 27, 2009, 10:26:45 pm
can you please tell me how it's done ?
thank you very much
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Post by: MaNa on May 27, 2009, 10:34:01 pm
Can someone explain me Q5 (p3 M/J 08)
its equlibirum i
i need to understand
I POSTION OF EQULIBRUM n WHAT HAPPENEDS  ??? ???

Q5ai) The concentration of the reactants will increase (as the equilibrium shifts to the left) and the concentration of the products will decrease.

*Equilibrium justmeansthe 'balance' of a reaction; when it says the equilibrium shifts left, it refers to the fact that the reaction goes backwards and instead of producing more products, the reactants are produced.

5aii)-The position shifts to the left because decreasing the pressure on the reaction favours the side of the equation with the highest volume of gases (a.k.a. moles/molecules of gas).
5b)-The forward reaction is exothermic, because a decrease in temperature favours the forward reaction, so it must be exothermic.

Our teacher told us to think of the equlibrium like this: there is a naugty boy and he does exactly the opposite of what you tell him to do. So, using the above scenario, lowering the pressure favours the side with higher volume of gas. And, lowering the temperature favours the exothermic temperature (heat given out). If you see, in both the cases the opposite is happening.
I hope its clear :)
tha really helped me thankyou soo much + rep for u By the way i have one question so during a rection the conditions should be EXOTERMIC OR ENDOTERMIC??
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Post by: Bani on May 27, 2009, 10:48:58 pm
Can someone explain me Q5 (p3 M/J 08)
its equlibirum i
i need to understand
I POSTION OF EQULIBRUM n WHAT HAPPENEDS  ??? ???

Q5ai) The concentration of the reactants will increase (as the equilibrium shifts to the left) and the concentration of the products will decrease.

*Equilibrium justmeansthe 'balance' of a reaction; when it says the equilibrium shifts left, it refers to the fact that the reaction goes backwards and instead of producing more products, the reactants are produced.

5aii)-The position shifts to the left because decreasing the pressure on the reaction favours the side of the equation with the highest volume of gases (a.k.a. moles/molecules of gas).
5b)-The forward reaction is exothermic, because a decrease in temperature favours the forward reaction, so it must be exothermic.

Our teacher told us to think of the equlibrium like this: there is a naugty boy and he does exactly the opposite of what you tell him to do. So, using the above scenario, lowering the pressure favours the side with higher volume of gas. And, lowering the temperature favours the exothermic temperature (heat given out). If you see, in both the cases the opposite is happening.
I hope its clear :)
tha really helped me thankyou soo much + rep for u By the way i have one question so during a rection the conditions should be EXOTERMIC OR ENDOTERMIC??

Endothermic is when energy is taken in, which happens when bonds are broken. Exothermic is heat given out, and this happens when new bonds are formed. In a reaction, endothermic and exothermic happens simultaneously. What determines the overall type of the reaction is this: if they tell you in a question that the energy change is -115 celsius, for example, the minus sign would indicate that the heat energy given out is more than heat energy taken in. So, the overall reaction is exothemic. Consequently, if its a positive sign, tht would indicate that heat energy taken in is more than heat energy given out, indicating that the reaction is endothermic. Also, sometimes, in question they ask you to explain why the reaction is exothermic or endotermic. In that case, you would answer using the idea of bond forming and bond breaking and the relative energy changes involved (as I have explained above).
I hope this helped.  :)
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Post by: Bani on May 27, 2009, 10:53:59 pm
Can someone explain me Q5 (p3 M/J 08)
its equlibirum i
i need to understand
I POSTION OF EQULIBRUM n WHAT HAPPENEDS  ??? ???

Q5ai) The concentration of the reactants will increase (as the equilibrium shifts to the left) and the concentration of the products will decrease.

*Equilibrium justmeansthe 'balance' of a reaction; when it says the equilibrium shifts left, it refers to the fact that the reaction goes backwards and instead of producing more products, the reactants are produced.

5aii)-The position shifts to the left because decreasing the pressure on the reaction favours the side of the equation with the highest volume of gases (a.k.a. moles/molecules of gas).
5b)-The forward reaction is exothermic, because a decrease in temperature favours the forward reaction, so it must be exothermic.

Our teacher told us to think of the equlibrium like this: there is a naugty boy and he does exactly the opposite of what you tell him to do. So, using the above scenario, lowering the pressure favours the side with higher volume of gas. And, lowering the temperature favours the exothermic temperature (heat given out). If you see, in both the cases the opposite is happening.
I hope its clear :)
tha really helped me thankyou soo much + rep for u By the way i have one question so during a rection the conditions should be EXOTERMIC OR ENDOTERMIC??

Endothermic is when energy is taken in, which happens when bonds are broken. Exothermic is heat given out, and this happens when new bonds are formed. In a reaction, endothermic and exothermic happens simultaneously. What determines the overall type of the reaction is this: if they tell you in a question that the energy change is -115 celsius, for example, the minus sign would indicate that the heat energy given out is more than heat energy taken in. So, the overall reaction is exothemic. Consequently, if its a positive sign, tht would indicate that heat energy taken in is more than heat energy given out, indicating that the reaction is endothermic. Also, sometimes, in question they ask you to explain why the reaction is exothermic or endotermic. In that case, you would answer using the idea of bond forming and bond breaking and the relative energy changes involved (as I have explained above).
I hope this helped.  :)
Oh, and in the case of the question fro M/J 08, it is where you have to combine the equilibrium knowledge with the exo/endo knowledge. You know that in equilibrium Qs, the opposite happens. So, if you COOL the reaction, it will try to HEAT up and increase its temp, which is by giving out heat energy (EXOTHERMIC)
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Post by: MaNa on May 27, 2009, 10:57:25 pm
Can someone explain me Q5 (p3 M/J 08)
its equlibirum i
i need to understand
I POSTION OF EQULIBRUM n WHAT HAPPENEDS  ??? ???

Q5ai) The concentration of the reactants will increase (as the equilibrium shifts to the left) and the concentration of the products will decrease.

*Equilibrium justmeansthe 'balance' of a reaction; when it says the equilibrium shifts left, it refers to the fact that the reaction goes backwards and instead of producing more products, the reactants are produced.

5aii)-The position shifts to the left because decreasing the pressure on the reaction favours the side of the equation with the highest volume of gases (a.k.a. moles/molecules of gas).
5b)-The forward reaction is exothermic, because a decrease in temperature favours the forward reaction, so it must be exothermic.

Our teacher told us to think of the equlibrium like this: there is a naugty boy and he does exactly the opposite of what you tell him to do. So, using the above scenario, lowering the pressure favours the side with higher volume of gas. And, lowering the temperature favours the exothermic temperature (heat given out). If you see, in both the cases the opposite is happening.
I hope its clear :)
tha really helped me thankyou soo much + rep for u By the way i have one question so during a rection the conditions should be EXOTERMIC OR ENDOTERMIC??

Endothermic is when energy is taken in, which happens when bonds are broken. Exothermic is heat given out, and this happens when new bonds are formed. In a reaction, endothermic and exothermic happens simultaneously. What determines the overall type of the reaction is this: if they tell you in a question that the energy change is -115 celsius, for example, the minus sign would indicate that the heat energy given out is more than heat energy taken in. So, the overall reaction is exothemic. Consequently, if its a positive sign, tht would indicate that heat energy taken in is more than heat energy given out, indicating that the reaction is endothermic. Also, sometimes, in question they ask you to explain why the reaction is exothermic or endotermic. In that case, you would answer using the idea of bond forming and bond breaking and the relative energy changes involved (as I have explained above).
I hope this helped.  :)
Oh, and in the case of the question fro M/J 08, it is where you have to combine the equilibrium knowledge with the exo/endo knowledge. You know that in equilibrium Qs, the opposite happens. So, if you COOL the reaction, it will try to HEAT up and increase its temp, which is by giving out heat energy (EXOTHERMIC)

THanx alot + rep 4 u:)
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Post by: Bani on May 27, 2009, 11:00:37 pm
You are most welcome  :)
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Post by: MaNa on May 27, 2009, 11:02:59 pm
You are most welcome  :)
ookay but i used tog et confused bcuz its kinetic thoer incres temp reaction increses but in qs like these its like more EQULIBRIUM my teacher is like its not that hard how much ure making it
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Post by: MaNa on May 27, 2009, 11:42:25 pm
does anyone has MAY /JUNE 00 MARK SCHEME FOR p1
as well as paper 3 , ms of p3 if soo can u please send me on insane_mana@live.com
thankyouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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Post by: Enia on May 28, 2009, 07:59:32 am
hi. I was wondering does anyone have any good notes on salt preparation? Or can you please explain it to me? (all the methods and such) Also..this is going to sound really stupid but can anyone be bothered to put together a list of compounds and their colours (the one's required?) I have a couple of them but I'm not sure if they're a)needed and    b) correct.

Thank you. Oh and if it helps I'll post the list of the colours I DO know so you can just tell me the one's I'm missing out or the ones which I've got wrong.

Here it is:
1. CuCO3 ===>Green
2. CuO ===> Black
3. CuSO4 ===>White
4. CuSO4.5H2O ===> Blue
5. CoCl2.6H2O ===> Pink
6. CoCl2 ===> Blue
7. MnO2 ===> Shiny Black
8. KMnO4 ===> Purple
9. K2Cr2O7 ===> Orange
10. CuCl2 ===> Blue

Again, Thank you help will be much appreciated. ^^
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Post by: Shogun on May 28, 2009, 10:38:37 am
hi. I was wondering does anyone have any good notes on salt preparation? Or can you please explain it to me? (all the methods and such) Also..this is going to sound really stupid but can anyone be bothered to put together a list of compounds and their colours (the one's required?) I have a couple of them but I'm not sure if they're a)needed and    b) correct.

Thank you. Oh and if it helps I'll post the list of the colours I DO know so you can just tell me the one's I'm missing out or the ones which I've got wrong.

Here it is:
1. CuCO3 ===>Green
2. CuO ===> Black


3. CuSO4 ===>White
4. CuSO4.5H2O ===> Blue
5. CoCl2.6H2O ===> Pink
6. CoCl2 ===> Blue
7. MnO2 ===> Shiny Black
8. KMnO4 ===> Purple
9. K2Cr2O7 ===> Orange
10. CuCl2 ===> Blue

Again, Thank you help will be much appreciated. ^^

hi, there are 4 ways of making salts ill explain to u all of them

a) to make inoluble salts(barium sulphate):
1) take 2 soluble forms of the chemical used to make barium sulphate, eg:barium nitrate and sulphuric acid
2) add barium nitrate to sulphuric acid then filter the mixture
3)u will get the residue(the insoluble part,i.e barium sulphate) and the filterate (of whats left of the liquid part)
4) wash those crystals of barium sulphate with distilled water and dry them using 2 filter papers(this avoides the braking of crystals) and finally u got clear barium sulphate.

b) to make salts from very reactive metals (eg, sodium, pottasium or any of the first 3 metals in the reactivity series)
1)lets say we want to make sodium chloride(NaCl, or table salt).such process where making salts with reactive metals are done with and experiment called TITRATION.alright now u will need burette and pippete.its usually done with appropriate alkali (eg for this one sodium hydroxide(NaOH)) with an apropriate acid(eg for this one hydrochloric acid (HCl)) this is called NEUTRALISATION where alkalis react with acid to from salt and water.
2) FROM THE PIPPETE pour some unkown amount of  sodium hydroxide to a conical flask
3)add an indicator pheonolphthalein which turns pink in colur when in alkali.
4)using burette pour out the acid hydochloric acid, keep doin tht untill tht pink colour dissapers.
5)then pour out every thing from the conical flask, repeat the experiment with the same amount of the alkaline and with out using the indicator, this is done because the indicator present makes the salt impure.
6)bring the above colourless solution in a china dish and evaporate it untill crystalls apear
then filter the crystals out and washed them with distilled water and dry them between 2 filter papers.
and u finally get pure sodium chloride.

c)to make salts from weak metals(magnesium to tin in the reactivity series)
1)lets say u want to make magnisium nitrate. do u remeber thos question i paper 6 where they say add in excess? this is the process of making salts with weak metals by adding things in excess.Alright now what we need is magnesium  and an acid nitric acid.
2)take in a beaker nitric acid and add magnesium  in excess to it, u will see effervecense appear due to liberation of oxygen. wait until the effervescence end. u will see excess pices of magnesium carbonate.
3)filter the mixture,to get the SOLUTION of magnesium ntrate , which is the filterate
4)take the filterate to a china dish, and evaporate to crystallisation point and then cool slowly till crystals are formed.
5)collect crystals again by filteration.wash it and dry it with filter papers.

d)to make salts from very week metals(eg copper nitrate)
1)alright this would be same as the above procedueres. take an acid like nitric acid, and take some amount of coper oxide.
2) pour some amount of nitric acid to the beaker and add excess copper oxide and warm it
3)now there wont be any effervecence here cuz the product of this reaction would be copper nitrate and water and no gas so no effervescence
4)filter the mixture, take the crystals and wash it and dry it as usually.

thts all for making salt.now the colours are alright, but rmember tht all oxides of group 1 and 2 metals are white in colour and oxides of transition are colourfull i think, but mostly its black.

ell any consufion or difficluties, or help u need plz do ask.
and plz + rep me, if everythings allright with my explanaition.hope u understand.
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Post by: ZeroZero82 on May 28, 2009, 10:48:27 am
how do we know if a reaction is endothermic?!
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Post by: Shogun on May 28, 2009, 10:51:06 am
if heat was absored or taken in. any reaction which means giving heat is endothermic, burning stuff is exo.
and if the temprature differnce of rection is postive then its endo, if its negative its exo. nutralisation is exo.
the reaction where ice is heated to be melted and so on is endo...
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Post by: ZeroZero82 on May 28, 2009, 10:55:14 am
THANKS!! And how do we know if a reaction is a redox reaction!? ;D
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Post by: Shogun on May 28, 2009, 11:07:34 am
redox involves both reduction and oxidation
when is oxidation:when the oxidising number is increased, when oxygen is added or "got it",when electrons are lost.
when is reduction"when oxidising number is decreased.when oxygen is lost,when electrons are gained.

so lets take the reaction where carbon dioxide is made
C+O2-->CO2 NOTICE THT OXYGEN IS TAKEN BY CARBON THIS IS OXIDATION

lets take exampl of reduction reaction
Cu+2+2e-->Cu this is reduction as electrons are gained

so now lets take example of redox reaction
Fe2O3+3Co-->2Ce+3Co2

now see iron lost oxygen so thsi is reduction and carbon monoxide gained oxygen this is redox reaction.
in the same way look at other reactions to see if any of the conditions of each of the reduction and oxidation were to appear in tht particular reaction to see if it was a redox reaction

thermit reaction (to make hot molten iron for welding train rails) is a redox reaction and  exothrmic and idsplacement rection

if u have any confusion or help do ask me, and plz do +rep me......lol ;D :D
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Post by: ZeroZero82 on May 28, 2009, 11:17:26 am
Thanks :D
+rep
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 28, 2009, 11:24:24 am
THANKS!! And how do we know if a reaction is a redox reaction!? ;D

shogun;s way might be alittle bit confusing, an easier way to memorize it:

Oxidation: gain of oxygen, loss of electrons, loss of hydrogen

Reduction: loss of ogygen, gain of electrons, gain of hydrogen

Examples: analyze shogun;s examples, cuz they are good examples, lol
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Post by: ZeroZero82 on May 28, 2009, 11:44:39 am
so redox is when reduction and oxidation both take place in one reaction!?
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Post by: twilight on May 28, 2009, 11:47:59 am
yup when oxidationa and reduction take place simultaniously
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Post by: Enia on May 28, 2009, 11:49:50 am
Thank you so much!! I could tackle glomp you right now!! (yes, tht's how much of a nerd I am =P)

Anyways, yh thanks! +rep!
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Post by: nid404 on May 28, 2009, 11:54:18 am
i got this good site for ull guys

http://www.sep.alquds.edu/chemistry/?sf=edu2
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 28, 2009, 12:19:43 pm
here is a question, since no one has any to ask, lol

What is the role if chlorophyll in green plants? [3]
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Post by: ZeroZero82 on May 28, 2009, 12:22:03 pm
here is a question, since no one has any to ask, lol

What is the role if chlorophyll in green plants? [3]

I think, acts as a catalyst, or its the place where reactions(photosynthesis) takes place. I'm not sure. :D
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 28, 2009, 12:26:21 pm
here is a question, since no one has any to ask, lol

What is the role if chlorophyll in green plants? [3]

I think, acts as a catalyst, or its the place where reactions(photosynthesis) takes place. I'm not sure. :D

close, but not fully right
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Post by: ZeroZero82 on May 28, 2009, 12:28:52 pm
here is a question, since no one has any to ask, lol

What is the role if chlorophyll in green plants? [3]

I think, acts as a catalyst, or its the place where reactions(photosynthesis) takes place. I'm not sure. :D

close, but not fully right
It has the suitable condetions for the reactions to take place?  :-\
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 28, 2009, 12:32:13 pm
here is a question, since no one has any to ask, lol

What is the role if chlorophyll in green plants? [3]

I think, acts as a catalyst, or its the place where reactions(photosynthesis) takes place. I'm not sure. :D

close, but not fully right
It has the suitable condetions for the reactions to take place?  :-\

no not really, its for 3 marks so u must have 3 point,
Ans: absorbs light energy from the sun[1], and acts as a catalyst[1] in the reaction between carbon dioxide and water[3]
and if u want give the symbolic reaction (its better to give it)
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Post by: ZeroZero82 on May 28, 2009, 12:36:47 pm
here is a question, since no one has any to ask, lol

What is the role if chlorophyll in green plants? [3]

I think, acts as a catalyst, or its the place where reactions(photosynthesis) takes place. I'm not sure. :D

close, but not fully right
It has the suitable condetions for the reactions to take place?  :-\

no not really, its for 3 marks so u must have 3 point,
Ans: absorbs light energy from the sun[1], and acts as a catalyst[1] in the reaction between carbon dioxide and water[3]
and if u want give the symbolic reaction (its better to give it)
so I got one mark right! :P anyways thanks :D
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 28, 2009, 12:40:18 pm
hahaa, yeah u get 1 mark, ur welcome ;)
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Post by: nid404 on May 28, 2009, 12:41:47 pm
here is a question, since no one has any to ask, lol

What is the role if chlorophyll in green plants? [3]

I think, acts as a catalyst, or its the place where reactions(photosynthesis) takes place. I'm not sure. :D

close, but not fully right
It has the suitable condetions for the reactions to take place?  :-\

no not really, its for 3 marks so u must have 3 point,
Ans: absorbs light energy from the sun[1], and acts as a catalyst[1] in the reaction between carbon dioxide and water[3]
and if u want give the symbolic reaction (its better to give it)
so I got one mark right! :P anyways thanks :D


wow!!! welcome biology
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 28, 2009, 12:44:59 pm
it may be biology, BUT IT IS ALSO IN CHEMISTRY
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Post by: ZeroZero82 on May 28, 2009, 12:47:01 pm
Biology FTW! :P
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Post by: nid404 on May 28, 2009, 12:53:17 pm
Biology FTW! :P

yeah....yeah :P

CHLOROPHYLL......... GREEN PLANTS.......chem???? which paper dude........chem... :P
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Post by: ZeroZero82 on May 28, 2009, 12:57:14 pm
Biology FTW! :P

yeah....yeah :P

CHLOROPHYLL......... GREEN PLANTS.......chem???? which paper dude........chem... :P

It came in p3, but I don't remember which year.
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 28, 2009, 12:59:11 pm
Biology FTW! :P

yeah....yeah :P

CHLOROPHYLL......... GREEN PLANTS.......chem???? which paper dude........chem... :P

it came in paper 3 november 99, Q2// and june 2002 Q2)b
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Post by: ZeroZero82 on May 28, 2009, 01:02:27 pm
Biology FTW! :P

yeah....yeah :P

CHLOROPHYLL......... GREEN PLANTS.......chem???? which paper dude........chem... :P

it came in paper 3 november 99, Q2// and june 2002 Q2)b
actully, june 2002 Q2)b is about the photosynthesis formula. It doesn't have anything to do with chlorophyll  :-\
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 28, 2009, 01:10:56 pm
Biology FTW! :P

yeah....yeah :P

CHLOROPHYLL......... GREEN PLANTS.......chem???? which paper dude........chem... :P

it came in paper 3 november 99, Q2// and june 2002 Q2)b
actully, june 2002 Q2)b is about the photosynthesis formula. It doesn't have anything to do with chlorophyll  :-\

well photosynthesis, is all about chlorophyll, isnt it, and also think about it they wouldnt give u four marks just for writing the formula
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Post by: ZeroZero82 on May 28, 2009, 01:21:28 pm
Biology FTW! :P

yeah....yeah :P

CHLOROPHYLL......... GREEN PLANTS.......chem???? which paper dude........chem... :P

it came in paper 3 november 99, Q2// and june 2002 Q2)b
actully, june 2002 Q2)b is about the photosynthesis formula. It doesn't have anything to do with chlorophyll  :-\

well photosynthesis, is all about chlorophyll, isnt it, and also think about it they wouldnt give u four marks just for writing the formula

formula + chlorophyll and sunlight are needed. This will ge the [4] marks
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Post by: annie_angel on May 28, 2009, 02:09:20 pm
well Bessy i think that potassium is yellow not iodine...
and ioden is purple/black that wat i think...
and +rep if i m correct :)

Group 1 and 2 metals are alkalis and they r all colorless solutions...so potassium not yellow
Iodine...being in the 7th group is a black/grey solid; purple liquid and gas
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 28, 2009, 02:09:50 pm
May/Jun 2008 //Q6)c)(ii)

another Question since no one is askin anything

Pasteur said that fermentation was respiration in the absence of air. Suggest a
definition of respiration.[2]
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Post by: annie_angel on May 28, 2009, 02:16:02 pm
Reactivity table    /\
                         |
Potassium            |        [PETER'S]
Sodium                |         [SISTER]
Calcium               |         [CAN]
Magmesium          |         [MURDER]
aluminium            |           [A]
carbon               |           [CONSTIPATED]
zinc                   |          [ZEBRA]
iron                   |           [IN]
tin                    |           [THE]                      / Increasing of reactivity
lead                  |           [liGHT]
hydrogen           |           [HOUSE]
copper              |            [CAN]
silver                |            [SHE]
gold                  |           [GO]
platinum            |             [PLEASE?]


Sorry could not draw a good arrow for the increasing of reactivity...hope this helps

my friend tought me an easier way to study these...luk up^^^^
HOPES THIS HELPS  :D
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 28, 2009, 02:28:06 pm
Reactivity table    /\
                         |
Potassium            |        [PETER'S]
Sodium                |         [SISTER]
Calcium               |         [CAN]
Magmesium          |         [MURDER]
aluminium            |           [A]
carbon               |           [CONSTIPATED]
zinc                   |          [ZEBRA]
iron                   |           [IN]
tin                    |           [THE]                      / Increasing of reactivity
lead                  |           [liGHT]
hydrogen           |           [HOUSE]
copper              |            [CAN]
silver                |            [SHE]
gold                  |           [GO]
platinum            |             [PLEASE?]


Sorry could not draw a good arrow for the increasing of reactivity...hope this helps

my friend tought me an easier way to study these...luk up^^^^
HOPES THIS HELPS  :D

this is gd but u forgot lithium which is under sodium
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on May 28, 2009, 02:31:12 pm
yes..correct...forgot lithium
anyway we can change it a bit

peter's sister lauren can murder a ..............

lol
haha
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 28, 2009, 02:37:41 pm
yes..correct...forgot lithium
anyway we can change it a bit

peter's sister lauren can murder a ..............

lol
haha

hahahaha , very good, lmao
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Post by: angell on May 28, 2009, 02:41:55 pm
I have a couple of doubts people:

a) Could somebody help me out with naming the 'isomers' for example, how should we know where to write 1,2-dimethyl, etc etc

b) Displacement of ammonia from its salts (explain please!)

c) Displacement reactions in metals, e/g with nitrates, hydroxides etc!!

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Post by: unknown 101 on May 28, 2009, 02:59:17 pm
I have a couple of doubts people:

a) Could somebody help me out with naming the 'isomers' for example, how should we know where to write 1,2-dimethyl, etc etc

b) Displacement of ammonia from its salts (explain please!)

c) Displacement reactions in metals, e/g with nitrates, hydroxides etc!!



a) i doubt anyone can explain without a diagram, but ill try,    first u will hace the carbon chain eg.   -C-C-C-C-C-C- , and hydrogen all around it , so this is the alkane: pentane
so u replace a hydrogen on the second carbon from the left, with a methane so its gonna become 
      H    CH3    H    H      H
H---C---C----C---C----C---H   
      H    H      H    H      H

//// this would be the new product, which is pentane but with methane on carbon2 , so its going to be 2-methylpentane ,, if it had 2 methyl- functional groups then it would be (Number of carbons seperated by(,), depending on where the functional groups are) dimethylpentane
if it was 3 then it would be tri, 4 would be tetra.

B) ammonia is only displaced from its salts when it is reacted with a metal hydroxide, u do not need to know how it is done

C) please be more precise, so i can explain, give example or watever
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Post by: Mastermind on May 28, 2009, 03:08:24 pm
Can someone give me a brief explanation on the Extraction of Aluminium?
I always get confused
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Post by: Mastermind on May 28, 2009, 03:13:49 pm
May/Jun 2008 //Q6)c)(ii)

another Question since no one is askin anything

Pasteur said that fermentation was respiration in the absence of air. Suggest a
definition of respiration.[2]

Thats easy, respiration is the release of energy using oxygen & glucose to give CO2 + water + energy

By the way, lil wayne sucks! =P
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 28, 2009, 03:17:29 pm
Can someone give me a brief explanation on the Extraction of Aluminium?
I always get confused

aluminium is extracted by electrolysis, it is extracted from its orebauxite (Al2O3). and since pure aluminiumoxide melts at 2000 degree C, they add molten cryolite, which lowers the melting point to about 950, thus reducing costs, aluminium is produced at the cathode (Al3+ + 3e- goes to Al) and at the cathode (2O2- - 4e- goes to O2) a, also carbon dioxide may be produced when it reacts with the carbon electrode
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Post by: Mastermind on May 28, 2009, 03:19:56 pm
Can someone give me a brief explanation on the Extraction of Aluminium?
I always get confused

aluminium is extracted by electrolysis, it is extracted from its orebauxite (Al2O3). and since pure aluminiumoxide melts at 2000 degree C, they add molten cryolite, which lowers the melting point to about 950, thus reducing costs, aluminium is produced at the cathode (Al3+ + 3e- goes to Al) and at the cathode (2O2- - 4e- goes to O2) a, also carbon dioxide may be produced when it reacts with the carbon electrode
Ah Thanks man, always got confused with the cryolite
& Carbondioxide is produce because the oxygen reacts with the carbon rod, which is why it needs to be replaced constantly
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 28, 2009, 03:20:47 pm
u may get 1 mark
cuz u have to say the release of energy by living cells from food

and By the way LIL WAYNE IS THE BEST RAPPER ALIVE , so stop hating
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 28, 2009, 03:28:15 pm
another question ..

Name 2 ways of obtaining hydrogen (on a large scale)?
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Post by: Mastermind on May 28, 2009, 03:28:32 pm
u may get 1 mark
cuz u have to say the release of energy by living cells from food

and By the way LIL WAYNE IS THE BEST RAPPER ALIVE , so stop hating
Ah aite! its 2 marks right

& Lil Wayne is NOT the best rapper alive. Lil Wayne claims he is the best, buh he can't freestyle & has a ghost writer who writes his lyrics! i aint hatin' im jus sayin =P
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Post by: Mastermind on May 28, 2009, 03:30:30 pm
another question ..

Name 2 ways of obtaining hydrogen (on a large scale)?
Wah do you mean? obtaining hydrogen from.....
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 28, 2009, 03:34:12 pm
another question ..

Name 2 ways of obtaining hydrogen (on a large scale)?
Wah do you mean? obtaining hydrogen from.....

i mean how would u obtain a large quaantity of hydrogen ?

and who the hell told u he has a ghost writer (pure bullshit)
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Post by: Mastermind on May 28, 2009, 03:37:51 pm
another question ..

Name 2 ways of obtaining hydrogen (on a large scale)?
Wah do you mean? obtaining hydrogen from.....

i mean how would u obtain a large quaantity of hydrogen ?

and who the hell told u he has a ghost writer (pure bullshit)
Oh then, i dont know that answer then =P

Its all over the Internet & it shows in some of his tracks, you could tell when they're his lyrics, cuz....they suck, complete bull ma man, & his voice is the most annoyin of all! dont tell me its unique!
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Post by: twilight on May 28, 2009, 03:39:04 pm
another question ..

Name 2 ways of obtaining hydrogen (on a large scale)?
Wah do you mean? obtaining hydrogen from.....

i mean how would u obtain a large quaantity of hydrogen ?

and who the hell told u he has a ghost writer (pure bullshit)

by electrolysis of acidified water
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Post by: Mastermind on May 28, 2009, 03:40:29 pm
Another Question:
How do you purify copper using electrolysis?
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Post by: nid404 on May 28, 2009, 03:45:52 pm
Extraction of Copper - Purification.
The anode is a block of impure copper.
The cathode is a thin piece of pure copper

When electricity is passed through the cell
copper is dissolved at the anode by oxidation, Cu2+ ions go into solution.

Cu(s)  -  2e-       Cu2+(aq)

At the cathode, copper is deposited by reduction.

Cu2+(aq)  +  2e-       Cu(s)

As copper ions move from the anode to the cathode
the anode gets smaller as the cathode gets bigger.
This is a redox reaction.

The rate at which the copper ions enter the electrolyte from the anode
is the same as the rate at which the copper ions
leave the electrolyte at the cathode. The concentration of
the copper(II) sulfate solution therefore remains unchanged
As copper is transferred from the anode to the cathode
any soluble impurities in the copper anode
dissolve in the copper(II) sulfate and are removed later.

Insoluble impurities fall to the bottom of the cell and form a sludge.
The sludge often contains precious metals (silver and platinum)
which are extracted and refined.

hope this is fine

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Post by: xTremep on May 28, 2009, 03:46:11 pm
Which is more reactive Gold(Au) or Platinum(Pt)?
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 28, 2009, 03:49:54 pm
Which is more reactive Gold(Au) or Platinum(Pt)?

gold is more reactive than platinum
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Post by: Shogun on May 28, 2009, 03:51:19 pm
Which is more reactive Gold(Au) or Platinum(Pt)?

gold, but they are both found native(by itseld, not with other compounds/substance,etc) in the earth's crust as they both are very unreactive, but between paltinum ang gold, gold is more reactive.
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Post by: nid404 on May 28, 2009, 03:54:30 pm
Which is more reactive Gold(Au) or Platinum(Pt)?

Gold

Remember

Pond Slime Can Make A Zoo Interesting. The Long Crinkly Sort Goes Purple

This is the reactivity series

Potassium>Sodium>Calcium>Magnesium> Aluminium > Zinc>Iron>Tin>Lead>Copper>Silver>Gold>Platinum

great way to remember.....make mnemonics
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Post by: Shogun on May 28, 2009, 03:55:14 pm
THANKS!! And how do we know if a reaction is a redox reaction!? ;D

shogun;s way might be alittle bit confusing, an easier way to memorize it:

Oxidation: gain of oxygen, loss of electrons, loss of hydrogen

Reduction: loss of ogygen, gain of electrons, gain of hydrogen

Examples: analyze shogun;s examples, cuz they are good examples, lol

Thanks lil wayne, u made it easier for me lol...
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 28, 2009, 03:59:42 pm

and Mastermind, this is all i need to tell u

1)im the one who has to die, when its time for me to die, so let me live my life the way i want to!!
2)if u leave ur leavin the best, so u will have to settle for less
3)look at the ice, ridicolous price, ur camera has never seen a picture this nice
4)swallow my words taste my thoughts and if its to nasty spit it back at me
5)u could love me or hate me , i swear it wont make me or break me
6)i know this world is so cold and decieving, but i keep my head up like my nose is bleedin
hahaha
and lastley  take them shoes off ur teeth and stop runnin ur mouth
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Post by: xTremep on May 28, 2009, 04:11:08 pm
Thanks nid
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Post by: nid404 on May 28, 2009, 04:16:44 pm
 :)ur welcome
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 28, 2009, 04:18:24 pm
What are the 3 conditions for the haber process?
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Post by: Shogun on May 28, 2009, 04:20:38 pm
catalyst:iron
temperature: between 350 to 500 degre celcius
preassure at 200 atmospheres
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 28, 2009, 04:21:36 pm
What are the 3 conditions for the haber process?

heat pressure and temperature.
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Post by: nid404 on May 28, 2009, 04:21:52 pm
1) iron catalyst
2)450oC
3)200atm
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 28, 2009, 04:23:38 pm
What are the 3 conditions for the haber process?

heat pressure and temperature.

hahaha, u cant write that in the exam, lol, and the others u are right
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 28, 2009, 04:26:33 pm
and also

name  2 ways of obtaining a large quantity of hydrogen
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 28, 2009, 04:30:25 pm
and also

name  2 ways of obtaining a large quantity of hydrogen

electrolyse water, break up hydrocarbons

OR EAT BEANS
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Post by: Mastermind on May 28, 2009, 04:31:37 pm

and Mastermind, this is all i need to tell u

1)im the one who has to die, when its time for me to die, so let me live my life the way i want to!!
2)if u leave ur leavin the best, so u will have to settle for less
3)look at the ice, ridicolous price, ur camera has never seen a picture this nice
4)swallow my words taste my thoughts and if its to nasty spit it back at me
5)u could love me or hate me , i swear it wont make me or break me
6)i know this world is so cold and decieving, but i keep my head up like my nose is bleedin
hahaha
and lastley  take them shoes off ur teeth and stop runnin ur mouth
Oh really aite:
1) when i was 5 my favorite movie was the gremlins ain't got sh*t to do with this but just thought i'd mention
2) When the Remmys in the system ain't no telling will i **** em' will i diss em' thats wat they be yelling I'm a pimp by blood not relation ya'll ***** ain't something and i replace em" (stolen from Biggie)
3) so high they couldn't reach me wit a f'ing attena
4) I told her back it up like burp, burp & I made that azz jump like, jerp, jerp
5) im the sh*t and thats the only thing u smell around me
Hahaha! wow, the best huh!
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Post by: Mastermind on May 28, 2009, 04:34:11 pm
and also

name  2 ways of obtaining a large quantity of hydrogen

electrolyse water, break up hydrocarbons

OR EAT BEANS
OHHH thats how! Thanks man, ill jus write eat bean =P
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 28, 2009, 04:35:08 pm
and also

name  2 ways of obtaining a large quantity of hydrogen

electrolyse water, break up hydrocarbons

OR EAT BEANS

yeah, there is also reacting hydrocarbons with steam, and electrolysis of brine,


and master mind , just read my last qoute and shut up
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Post by: Shogun on May 28, 2009, 04:36:17 pm
lol, its craking alkanes or by the reaction steam reforming(but uses alot of energy)
and i think electrolysis of water cuz it also produces hydrogen
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 28, 2009, 04:37:54 pm
wat is the difference between a proton and a hydrogen ion?




and mastermind if lil wayne aint the best rapper alive then who is?
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Post by: Mastermind on May 28, 2009, 04:42:56 pm
Hydrogen Ion can be a hydrogen atom, when an electron is gained



& the best rapper alive is Em, without a doubt
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 28, 2009, 04:45:07 pm
Hydrogen Ion is obtained by removing one electron from hydrogen atom.

& the best rapper alive is Em, without a doubt

i said wats the difference, i didnt say how do u get a hydrogen ion.


and if by Em, u mean eminem, then ahahahahahaha,, helll nooo
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Post by: Mastermind on May 28, 2009, 04:48:45 pm
Hydrogen Ion can be a hydrogen atom, when an electron is gained


& hell yea! unlike lil wayne who claims hes the 'best', eminem was awarded the best rapper alive
& Eminem has proper lyrics, hard lyrics. unlike lil wayne who raps bout sh*t, money, girls, gucci etc.
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Post by: Mastermind on May 28, 2009, 04:56:21 pm
Whats the difference between a Protein & a Synthetic Polymer?



& lil wayne everyone’s got a favorite rapper. Even ur favorite rapper has a favorite rapper.
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Post by: Shogun on May 28, 2009, 05:05:19 pm
protien is a natural made polymer of group of amino acid, whereas synthetic polymer is made by man, eg terylene and nylon

and By the way guys y dont u open up a debate with eiminem VS lil wayne
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 28, 2009, 05:07:02 pm
Whats the difference between a Protein & a Synthetic Polymer?



& lil wayne everyone’s got a favorite rapper. Even ur favorite rapper has a favorite rapper.

protein is natural and synthetic polymers are man-made.,, also protein has the same linkage as nylon ( amide linkage)
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Post by: Mastermind on May 28, 2009, 05:09:53 pm
Ah aite, got confused between the two
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Post by: kam on May 28, 2009, 05:11:14 pm
okie, i know this is a stupid question but wot is brine again?
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Post by: esso on May 28, 2009, 05:12:25 pm
whats the difference between condensation polymerisation nd addition polymerisation ???
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 28, 2009, 05:13:01 pm
okie, i know this is a stupid question but wot is brine again?

brine is concentrated aqueous sodium chloride
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 28, 2009, 05:14:35 pm
whats the difference between condensation polymerisation nd addition polymerisation ???

addition polymerization is where only the polymer is fromed andd condesnsation polymerization is when the polymer is formed and also water
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Post by: Shogun on May 28, 2009, 05:16:43 pm
whats the difference between condensation polymerisation nd addition polymerisation ???
condensation polymerisation needs 2 polymers, and here simple substances like water is eliminated, its not for double bonds  carbon (like ethene).
whereas addition polymerisation, ussually occurs in alkenes (cuz it has double bonds between 2 carbon atoms) and u only need 1 polymer, no simple substance like water removed.
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 28, 2009, 05:22:10 pm
i dare anyone to answer this:

write a symbolic equation that includes CO2 gas , which produces solid carbon?
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Post by: Shogun on May 28, 2009, 05:29:46 pm
magnesium+carbon dioxide---> magnesium oxide+Carbon
any displacement reaction with metals more reactive than carbon
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 28, 2009, 05:30:47 pm
 ;D hahahaha nice, thats true
but u still wouldnt get any marks, cuz i said a SYMBOLIC EQUATIoN not a word equation  ;) :P
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Post by: Shogun on May 28, 2009, 05:31:19 pm
lol  ;D
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Post by: Naruto on May 28, 2009, 06:21:16 pm
well i was't sure about potassium but i was correct about iodine :)
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Post by: lana on May 28, 2009, 07:26:55 pm
in a cell the current flows from the less reactive metal to the more reactive or in the opposite way ?
thanks
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Post by: Shogun on May 28, 2009, 07:29:56 pm
yup, cuz the the higher reactive metal would always be negatively charged, how ever if u would draw and explain it u should show tht its from positive(lower reactive metal) to negative(higher reactive metal)(i.e the conventional current)
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Post by: lana on May 28, 2009, 07:32:25 pm
thank you
+rep
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Post by: xiao on May 28, 2009, 08:05:03 pm
does any one know how to memorise question organic formula??? i cant concentrate none . canot memorise any
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Post by: Bani on May 28, 2009, 11:41:16 pm
hi. I was wondering does anyone have any good notes on salt preparation? Or can you please explain it to me? (all the methods and such) Also..this is going to sound really stupid but can anyone be bothered to put together a list of compounds and their colours (the one's required?) I have a couple of them but I'm not sure if they're a)needed and    b) correct.

Thank you. Oh and if it helps I'll post the list of the colours I DO know so you can just tell me the one's I'm missing out or the ones which I've got wrong.

Here it is:
1. CuCO3 ===>Green
2. CuO ===> Black


3. CuSO4 ===>White
4. CuSO4.5H2O ===> Blue
5. CoCl2.6H2O ===> Pink
6. CoCl2 ===> Blue
7. MnO2 ===> Shiny Black
8. KMnO4 ===> Purple
9. K2Cr2O7 ===> Orange
10. CuCl2 ===> Blue

Again, Thank you help will be much appreciated. ^^

hi, there are 4 ways of making salts ill explain to u all of them

a) to make inoluble salts(barium sulphate):
1) take 2 soluble forms of the chemical used to make barium sulphate, eg:barium nitrate and sulphuric acid
2) add barium nitrate to sulphuric acid then filter the mixture
3)u will get the residue(the insoluble part,i.e barium sulphate) and the filterate (of whats left of the liquid part)
4) wash those crystals of barium sulphate with distilled water and dry them using 2 filter papers(this avoides the braking of crystals) and finally u got clear barium sulphate.

b) to make salts from very reactive metals (eg, sodium, pottasium or any of the first 3 metals in the reactivity series)
1)lets say we want to make sodium chloride(NaCl, or table salt).such process where making salts with reactive metals are done with and experiment called TITRATION.alright now u will need burette and pippete.its usually done with appropriate alkali (eg for this one sodium hydroxide(NaOH)) with an apropriate acid(eg for this one hydrochloric acid (HCl)) this is called NEUTRALISATION where alkalis react with acid to from salt and water.
2) FROM THE PIPPETE pour some unkown amount of  sodium hydroxide to a conical flask
3)add an indicator pheonolphthalein which turns pink in colur when in alkali.
4)using burette pour out the acid hydochloric acid, keep doin tht untill tht pink colour dissapers.
5)then pour out every thing from the conical flask, repeat the experiment with the same amount of the alkaline and with out using the indicator, this is done because the indicator present makes the salt impure.
6)bring the above colourless solution in a china dish and evaporate it untill crystalls apear
then filter the crystals out and washed them with distilled water and dry them between 2 filter papers.
and u finally get pure sodium chloride.

c)to make salts from weak metals(magnesium to tin in the reactivity series)
1)lets say u want to make magnisium nitrate. do u remeber thos question i paper 6 where they say add in excess? this is the process of making salts with weak metals by adding things in excess.Alright now what we need is magnesium  and an acid nitric acid.
2)take in a beaker nitric acid and add magnesium  in excess to it, u will see effervecense appear due to liberation of oxygen. wait until the effervescence end. u will see excess pices of magnesium carbonate.
3)filter the mixture,to get the SOLUTION of magnesium ntrate , which is the filterate
4)take the filterate to a china dish, and evaporate to crystallisation point and then cool slowly till crystals are formed.
5)collect crystals again by filteration.wash it and dry it with filter papers.

d)to make salts from very week metals(eg copper nitrate)
1)alright this would be same as the above procedueres. take an acid like nitric acid, and take some amount of coper oxide.
2) pour some amount of nitric acid to the beaker and add excess copper oxide and warm it
3)now there wont be any effervecence here cuz the product of this reaction would be copper nitrate and water and no gas so no effervescence
4)filter the mixture, take the crystals and wash it and dry it as usually.

thts all for making salt.now the colours are alright, but rmember tht all oxides of group 1 and 2 metals are white in colour and oxides of transition are colourfull i think, but mostly its black.

ell any consufion or difficluties, or help u need plz do ask.
and plz + rep me, if everythings allright with my explanaition.hope u understand.


Excellent Shogun!!!!! +rep for you!
Just tell if Im right; We heat the solution obtained to crystallising point, to get the crystals. Then evaporate the extra water, filter, wash and dry. Right?
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Post by: zara on May 29, 2009, 05:17:28 am
yea its rite...but remove the evaporation part...dats rong..
heat to crystallisation pt..allow to cool..filter..wash n dry...
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Post by: ZeroZero82 on May 29, 2009, 10:06:37 am
Heat until crystallisation point. Cool 'til crystals appear, then dry. ;D

Can anyone tell me what is modern proccess?
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 10:28:42 am
Heat until crystallisation point. Cool 'til crystals appear, then dry. ;D

Can anyone tell me what is modern proccess?

modern process for wat?
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Post by: ZeroZero82 on May 29, 2009, 10:30:46 am
Heat until crystallisation point. Cool 'til crystals appear, then dry. ;D

Can anyone tell me what is modern proccess?

modern process for wat?
nov.2005 Q7)
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Post by: zara on May 29, 2009, 10:31:04 am
Heat until crystallisation point. Cool 'til crystals appear, then dry. ;D

Can anyone tell me what is modern proccess?
hey.....ur 4gettin sum points...hv a luk on my post...
filterin n washin with distilled water are vry essential points.....

n wats modern process??
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Post by: ZeroZero82 on May 29, 2009, 10:34:28 am
Heat until crystallisation point. Cool 'til crystals appear, then dry. ;D

Can anyone tell me what is modern proccess?
hey.....ur 4gettin sum points...hv a luk on my post...
filterin n washin with distilled water are vry essential points.....

n wats modern process??

yea you're right i forget them :P

there's a question in nov.2005 Q7) about modern process  ???
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 10:36:26 am
Heat until crystallisation point. Cool 'til crystals appear, then dry. ;D

Can anyone tell me what is modern proccess?

modern process for wat?
nov.2005 Q7)


7)a) reacting hydrocarbons with steam, or electrolysis of brine ( any one of the 2)
b)i) iron
ii)because lower temp would shft equiliberium to the right (cuz forward reaction is exo) in order to increase temp thus increasing yeild
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 10:38:45 am
ohh sh*t, i thought u wanted the answers, lool,
 the modern process:
catalyst iron
ATM of 250
temp of about 450

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Post by: ZeroZero82 on May 29, 2009, 10:41:04 am
N2 + 3H2 <--> 2NH3      this is the habor process?

modern process is used to obtain what?
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 10:42:58 am
N2 + 3H2 <--> 2NH3      this is the habor process?

modern process is used to obtain what?


its also used to obtain ammonia, the old haber process in nov05 Q7 uses different conditions than the new way
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Post by: ZeroZero82 on May 29, 2009, 10:45:23 am
Thanks ;D
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 10:51:06 am
Thanks ;D

ur welcome ;)

i have a question, lets see if anyone can answer it

Why is ammonia stored as a liquid under pressure?
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Post by: jkiam11 on May 29, 2009, 10:52:42 am
is it because if it's stored under low pressure it will turn into nitrogen and hydrogen?
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Post by: ZeroZero82 on May 29, 2009, 10:55:42 am
because at low pressure it will change to gas. So we keep it under high pressure so it stays as liquid and have a volume
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 10:57:17 am
because at low pressure it will change to gas. So we keep it under high pressure so it stays as liquid and have a volume

yeah , and also when it is a liquid its easier to transport
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Post by: ZeroZero82 on May 29, 2009, 11:04:16 am
Ok here's a question, list the uses of ployesters.
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 11:07:47 am
Ok here's a question, list the uses of ployesters.
synthestic or natural?

synthestic is terylene
natural are fat
fat as a polyester could be boiled with an alkali to form saop
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Post by: idol2009 on May 29, 2009, 11:15:12 am
 Polyesters(such as terylene) are used mostly for clothing, they don't usually ask you for more than one use.

I also have another question: one one of the past papers (may/june 04, question 4) I was doing, there was a graph showing volume of aq.sodium hydroxide plotted against height of precipitate of iron (III) chloride. There is a upwards sloping line which flattens at 6 mm on the y-axis.
The question then asks you to sketch the graph that would be obtained if iron (III) chloride had been used. The mark scheme says it would be the same, except it would have a max of 8 mm, not 6
I don't really understand how you get that answer...why is the ppt.of iron (III) chloride taller than iron (II) chloride? i didn't even know there was a difference besides the color?

thanks if anyone can help!
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 11:27:27 am
Polyesters(such as terylene) are used mostly for clothing, they don't usually ask you for more than one use.

I also have another question: one one of the past papers (may/june 04, question 4) I was doing, there was a graph showing volume of aq.sodium hydroxide plotted against height of precipitate of iron (III) chloride. There is a upwards sloping line which flattens at 6 mm on the y-axis.
The question then asks you to sketch the graph that would be obtained if iron (III) chloride had been used. The mark scheme says it would be the same, except it would have a max of 8 mm, not 6
I don't really understand how you get that answer...why is the ppt.of iron (III) chloride taller than iron (II) chloride? i didn't even know there was a difference besides the color?

thanks if anyone can help!

if u look at b)i)
it gives u the ionic equation   Fe3+   +   3OH-     goes to      Fe(OH)3

                                  there is a ratio of 1:3 as te Fe has 1 ion and OH has 3 ions
so put Fe2+ instead of Fe3+

so ur new equation would be

Fe2+     +     2OH-     goes to         Fe(OH)2

    this one has a ratio 1:2

so if the first one has a ratio of 1:3 ends at 12cm3 of aqueous sodium hydroxide
then the ratio of 1:2 will end at 8 cuz 2+1= 3 so 2/3 * 12 = 8
thats why it ends at 8cm3 of aqueous sodium hydroxide
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 11:34:24 am
also the height or ppt is the same at 6mm, but the volume of aqueous sodium hydroxide is different
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Post by: ZeroZero82 on May 29, 2009, 11:38:28 am
What are the physical and chemical properties of transition metals?
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Post by: idol2009 on May 29, 2009, 11:40:26 am
Oh ok, so the graph is exactly the same, except it flattens at 8 cm3?
Thanks a lot, none of my friends could answer that question!
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 11:42:48 am
What are the physical and chemical properties of transition metals?

physical:
-hard
-strong
-*high densities
-*high melting and boiling points

chemical:
-not very reactive
-*compounds usually colored
-*metals and compounds of catalysts are usually used as catalysts

NOTE: *= the most important
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Post by: ZeroZero82 on May 29, 2009, 11:44:31 am
What about conducting electricity?
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 11:46:42 am
What about conducting electricity?

yeah they do conduct electricity cuz they are METALS
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 11:47:48 am
Oh ok, so the graph is exactly the same, except it flattens at 8 cm3?
Thanks a lot, none of my friends could answer that question!
yeah it flattens at 8 cm3, and ur welcome
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Post by: ZeroZero82 on May 29, 2009, 11:58:22 am
What about conducting electricity?

yeah they do conduct electricity cuz they are METALS
I meant in molten state, or in liquid state
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 12:01:23 pm
What about conducting electricity?

yeah they do conduct electricity cuz they are METALS
I meant in molten state, or in liquid state


i have a  question for u

do you find molten copper inside electrical cables??
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Post by: ZeroZero82 on May 29, 2009, 12:06:46 pm
No.
My friend told me when it is molten it will have free electrons, which makes it conduct electricity...and as well as, when it's (aq). Is this true?
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 12:08:08 pm
No.
My friend told me when it is molten it will have free electrons, which makes it conduct electricity...and as well as, when it's (aq). Is this true?

thats wat metals are all about free moving electrons!!!
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Post by: aquarian93 on May 29, 2009, 12:19:21 pm
hey u guys
wat do we need to noe abt "soaps" in organic chem. i dont understand that part
thannkss
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Post by: aquarian93 on May 29, 2009, 12:23:21 pm
and for the "fractional distillation of crude oil"
do we need to noe da boiling range, chain length and percentage of each fraction?
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Post by: ZeroZero82 on May 29, 2009, 12:27:31 pm
and for the "fractional distillation of crude oil"
do we need to noe da boiling range, chain length and percentage of each fraction?
I don't think so. But you have to know their uses
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Post by: asus on May 29, 2009, 12:27:53 pm
can anybody state the 2 types of isotopes as being radioactive and non-radioactive..
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Post by: Shogun on May 29, 2009, 12:29:01 pm
for the fractions u dont have to know thier percentage or stuff, u just have to know which comes first, and what are they used for, and which fraction is which...
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Post by: ZeroZero82 on May 29, 2009, 12:39:48 pm
for the fractions u dont have to know thier percentage or stuff, u just have to know which comes first, and what are they used for, and which fraction is which...
Can you list them in order, with their uses!?  ;D
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Post by: aquarian93 on May 29, 2009, 12:40:21 pm
and for the "fractional distillation of crude oil"
do we need to noe da boiling range, chain length and percentage of each fraction?
I don't think so. But you have to know their uses

sure? so only uses and the order rite?

thanks!
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Post by: Shogun on May 29, 2009, 12:43:46 pm
yup, believe me i spend most of the time i do paper 3 about petroleum industry, i had same problem as u and i did not see any percentage or anything like tht. all i saw iwas they ask u which fraction is which one, and what is the use, and how tht fraction was made(this bcuz of different boiling point).

do +rep me ;D lol (i hate sayin this)
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Post by: ZeroZero82 on May 29, 2009, 12:45:13 pm
and for the "fractional distillation of crude oil"
do we need to noe da boiling range, chain length and percentage of each fraction?
I don't think so. But you have to know their uses

sure? so only uses and the order rite?

thanks!
Yes. Your welcome :D
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Post by: aquarian93 on May 29, 2009, 12:47:18 pm
for the fractions u dont have to know thier percentage or stuff, u just have to know which comes first, and what are they used for, and which fraction is which...
Can you list them in order, with their uses!?  ;D

ill give the order rite now k, the uses ill hv to look at my notes

Petroleum gas
Petrol
Naphita
Paraffin
Diesel
Lubricating Oil
Bitumen
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Post by: aquarian93 on May 29, 2009, 12:50:21 pm
hey u guys
wat do we need to noe abt "soaps" in organic chem. i dont understand that part
thannkss

can sum1 pls clear my doubt on this?
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Post by: ZeroZero82 on May 29, 2009, 12:50:44 pm
I don't think thats all of them. What about kerusin(Is the spelling right?:P)?!
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Post by: Shogun on May 29, 2009, 12:55:48 pm
hey u guys
wat do we need to noe abt "soaps" in organic chem. i dont understand that part
thannkss

can sum1 pls clear my doubt on this?

all u need to know about soap is how to make one. which is by reacting fat (oil) with an alkali (like sodium hydoroxide) , the chemical name for soap is sodium sterate.

and about kerosene (the correct spelling,lol) is used as fuel for jet plane with it comes paraffin where both are in the 4rth fraction.
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Post by: ZeroZero82 on May 29, 2009, 12:58:31 pm
Bitumen is for making roads? and which one is for Truck fuel?
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Post by: IGfab4 on May 29, 2009, 01:02:28 pm
diesel's used for diesel vehicles, kerosene and paraffin for jet engines, fuel oil for ships and for home heating systems. and yes, bitumen is for road surfaces  ;) ;)
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 01:11:50 pm
petroleum fractions:

Gas: seperated into methane, ethenane, propane, and butane- all fuels
Petrol: used for car fuel
Naptha: used for making chemicals
Kerosene (parrafin): used as fuel for jets and oil stoves and also used as detergents
Diesel oil: fuel for central heating, for diesel engines
Lubricating oil: oil for cars and other machines
Fuel oil: fuel for power stations and ships
Parrafin wax: used for making candles. wax-paper, waterproofing and greasing
Bitumen: used as pitch for roads and roofing tar
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Post by: Shogun on May 29, 2009, 01:12:51 pm
im gonna give u ther frations in order and thier uses

1st is refinary gas, which can be used as fuel, or cooking
2nd is gasoline, which is used in cars as its petrol
3rd is naptha which is used to make chemicals
4rth is kerosene/paraffin, which can be used as a fuel for jet engines
5th is diesel oil/gas oil, which can be used as a fuel in diesel engines (eg: trucks)
6th is fuel oil.used as fuel for ships or home heating system
7th,is lubricating oil wich can be used to surface road (eg bitumen) ,it is ver heavy, it can also be used to make waxes...

hope this helped
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Post by: emi on May 29, 2009, 01:34:34 pm
can some one post about contact process and how sulphuric acid is made ?

and in moles stuff can some one post the formula;s required , and if you have any tips or easy way to work out the answers ? and solve

1- M/j 2005 paper 3 Q5 d)
2- O/N 2005 Q6  ( all parts )


thanks ALOT, you guys are Awesome  specially shogun and lilWayne  ( just dnt ovr react if ppl had diff. opinion about your fav rapper ;) )

thanks again
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Post by: Shogun on May 29, 2009, 01:39:02 pm
lol emi, i dont like rap, i only listen to metal or punk rock
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Post by: emi on May 29, 2009, 01:40:51 pm
i meant lilwayne not you ,, i know your taste ;)

rock ftw!
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Post by: ZeroZero82 on May 29, 2009, 01:48:19 pm
can some one post about contact process and how sulphuric acid is made ?

and in moles stuff can some one post the formula;s required , and if you have any tips or easy way to work out the answers ? and solve

1- M/j 2005 paper 3 Q5 d)
2- O/N 2005 Q6  ( all parts )


thanks ALOT, you guys are Awesome  specially shogun and lilWayne  ( just dnt ovr react if ppl had diff. opinion about your fav rapper ;) )

thanks again

Obtain O2 or N2 from air by cooling the air under pressure lo liquify it. Then fractional distillation of liquid air.
Burn S in pure O2  ( S + O2 ---> SO2)
convert SO2 to 2SO3 (2SO2 + O2 <---> 2SO3 conditions:-temp. 450C, catalyst:V2O5,pressure:2atm)
Convert SO3 to Oleum(H2S2O7) (SO3 + H2SO4 --->H2S2O7)
then H2S2O7 + H2O ---> 2H2SO4 (concentrated)
;D
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Post by: Shogun on May 29, 2009, 01:54:06 pm
oh alrighty then, then im gonna start with the contact process first..

1)first,sulphur is allowed to react with oxygen to form sulphur dioxied(its an oxidation reaction as oxygen is taken)
2)then this sulphur dioxide is allowed to react with oxugen again to make sulphur trioxide (SO3). this reaction has some rquirements which are : catalyst: vanadium pentoxide or vanadium (v) oxide(V2O5),temperature : 450oC, and its at atmospheric preassure (but is unspecified on what ammount of atmospheric preassure).
3) sulphuric acid can esily made by just reacting water with sulphur trioxide directly, however this reaction is vilent and produces thick mist like smoke tht can cause u to choke, so to avoid this problem, the sulphur trioxide is dissolved in some sulphuric acid (labratory prepared one) to give oleum (H2S2O7)
4) then correct amount of water is added to this oleum to produce sulphuric acid of the required concentration.

and thts all with the contact process, hope this helped, then ill try to answer the moles stuff later, but the required formulas needed for moles are here:
to find the number of mole with mass and Mr and Ar.
Moles=mass/Ar or Mr

to find number moles with volume
moles= volume in dm3 / 24

if the volume was in cm3 then devide it by 10000. (to do any calculations with volume in it, the volume must be in dm3)
volume in dm3= volume in cm3/1000

to find number of moles interms of volume in dm3 and concentration (unit=(v/dm3))
moles= volume in dm3 x concentration

 :D ;D
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Post by: Shogun on May 29, 2009, 01:59:47 pm
hmm thier aint no section d in question 5 of paper 3 may/june,
did u mean q4'd'
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Post by: aquarian93 on May 29, 2009, 02:04:16 pm
hey u guys
wat do we need to noe abt "soaps" in organic chem. i dont understand that part
thannkss

can sum1 pls clear my doubt on this?

all u need to know about soap is how to make one. which is by reacting fat (oil) with an alkali (like sodium hydoroxide) , the chemical name for soap is sodium sterate.

and about kerosene (the correct spelling,lol) is used as fuel for jet plane with it comes paraffin where both are in the 4rth fraction.

okay. thanks =)

and how abt "what does the alkaline hydrolysis of vegetable oil produce"
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 02:04:56 pm
can some one post about contact process and how sulphuric acid is made ?

and in moles stuff can some one post the formula;s required , and if you have any tips or easy way to work out the answers ? and solve

1- M/j 2005 paper 3 Q5 d)
2- O/N 2005 Q6  ( all parts )


thanks ALOT, you guys are Awesome  specially shogun and lilWayne  ( just dnt ovr react if ppl had diff. opinion about your fav rapper ;) )

thanks again

nov05
Q6)
a)i)number of moles of NiCO3 reacted = 0.08 mol (1:1 ratio with the sulphuric acid)
Mass of nickel carbonate reacted = mass=moles x mr --- 0.08 x 119 = 9.52 g
mass of unreacted nickel carbonate =  12.0 - 9,52 = 2.48

ii)maximum number of moles = 281 x 0.08 = 22.48
percentage yeild = 10.4/22.28  x 100 = 46.3%

b)i) by titration ( acid + alkali) and explain the process

b)ii) heat calcium and flourine together
or use precpitation method
eg. calcium nitrate + pottasium flouride ----> patasium nitrate + calcium flouride
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Post by: emi on May 29, 2009, 02:22:16 pm
oh shogun there is Q5 section d  in Q4 there is no section d
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 02:24:55 pm
oh shogun there is Q5 section d  in Q4 there is no section d

im srry emi but there is no Q5 section D but there is Q4 section D,, how about write the question??
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Post by: Shogun on May 29, 2009, 02:27:10 pm
hey emi, to do q4 in m/j 2005

4di) mass/ Mr so 79.1/136
u get=0.58 moles

4dii) mass/ Mr so 20.9/18
u get= 1.16

4diii) here its like common sense or some thin, cuz u have to devide the number of moles of water by the number of moles of calcium sulphate.. so 1.16/0.58
u get x=2

then for the oct/nov 2005 q6
the first thing is like wat lil wayne told u
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Post by: emi on May 29, 2009, 02:27:32 pm
lilwayne thanks but  i could have looked up the answers in MS too  :-X .. i wanna  know how to do it like an explanation would be more good

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Post by: Shogun on May 29, 2009, 02:29:56 pm
alright then ill xplain it to u...
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 02:31:31 pm
lilwayne thanks but  i could have looked up the answers in MS too  :-X .. i wanna  know how to do it like an explanation would be more good



that is very insulting, lol , i didnt use no ms, i just did it on my own, before i typed it up for u, lol

so wat u have to do is revise moles all over again!!!
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Post by: emi on May 29, 2009, 02:32:31 pm
sry ,, i really suk at moles ..
so while solving could u also mention the formula you used .. so i can relate stuff together , and not just write the answers


thanks alot guys .. doubel +rep   =D

you guys rock the chemistry section
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Post by: Shogun on May 29, 2009, 02:33:29 pm
lol dnt wrry lil wayne is good with the moles..
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Post by: emi on May 29, 2009, 02:34:15 pm
i apologize if you find it insulting .  im sorry
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Post by: ZeroZero82 on May 29, 2009, 02:41:19 pm
There are three formulas:
- n=m/Mr (moles = mass / molecular mass)
- n=V/24dm^3 ( moles = volume / 24 dm^3)
- n=CxV (moles = Concentration x Volume in dm^3)
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 02:44:42 pm
i apologize if you find it insulting .  im sorry

hahaha, im just messing around , alrigth then ill try my best to explain each part

number of moles of NiCO3 = 0.08 mols
cuz its says that the number of moles of sulphuric acid in 40cm3 of 2.0 mol/dm3 = 0.08 mol

and the reaction goes like this

NiCO3 + H2SO4 ---->  NiSO4  + CO2   +  H2O

only 1 mol of   NiCO3 reacted not 2 or 3 cuz if it was it would be : 2NiCO3 or anything else
and also 1 mol of H2SO4 reacted

so if 1 mol of H2SO4 is 0.08 (like it mentions) that means also 0.08 mol of nickel carbonate reacted
because it is 1:1 ratio

did u get the first part?
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Post by: emi on May 29, 2009, 02:49:45 pm
ahhaa ,, so because they want more i only have to see how much moles they have right ?
we can see that H2SO4 is one mole and its mole is 0.08 
so if NiCO3 is also one more then it will also be 0.08


right ?

tell me if i pass this part
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Post by: emi on May 29, 2009, 02:52:39 pm
but the Question says " an excess of nickle carbonate 12g was added to 40cm3 of sulphuric acid , 2 mol/dm3"

what do they mean by 2 mol/dm3

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Post by: Shogun on May 29, 2009, 02:53:08 pm
first,in qi) in the question was given tht 40 cm3 of 2.0 mole per dm cube of nickle carbonate
now use the equation concentration x colume in dm 3 to get the number of mole of nickle carbonate. but first the volume is given in cm3 u have to convert it by deviding by 1000 to dm3
so it wuld be: 40cm3/ 1000 = 0.04dm3
now use tht first formula 2 x 0.04= 0.08 moles

qii) here its cross multiplication so it would be like 1 mol gave u 119g how much would 0.08 moles give u?
so it would be :
no. of moles                      mass produced
       1                                    119
       0.08                                  ?

so 0.08 x 119= 9.52g

qiii)now they said total reacted was 12g but was in excess, and we found out tht 9.52g was really reacted so wat was left of it was the unreacte nickel carbonate. (i. subtraction)
so it would be : 12-9.52= 2.48g

now i)  ill explain it after i come back, srry i have to go some where, ill return in about 10 mins
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Post by: Shogun on May 29, 2009, 02:54:22 pm
but the Question says " an excess of nickle carbonate 12g was added to 40cm3 of sulphuric acid , 2 mol/dm3"

what do they mean by 2 mol/dm3



tht 2 is the concentration of nickel carbonate
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 02:56:12 pm
ahhaa ,, so because they want more i only have to see how much moles they have right ?
we can see that H2SO4 is one mole and its mole is 0.08 
so if NiCO3 is also one more then it will also be 0.08


right ?

tell me if i pass this part


yeah u passed this part and shogun 2 mol/dm3 is the conc of the H2SO4
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Post by: Shogun on May 29, 2009, 02:58:52 pm
yup, srry its the concentration od sulphuric acid,lol
lil wayne hos do i do get the maximum moles of hydrated salt....
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Post by: Shogun on May 29, 2009, 03:04:25 pm
cuz i could do 10.4/281, and i got 0.03 but whn i went and check the mark scheme it says 0.08, i cant seem to ge tht answer. i mean i now how to do the next ones but it would only dpend on this particular answer... ???
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 03:06:40 pm
yup, srry its the concentration od sulphuric acid,lol
lil wayne hos do i do get the maximum moles of hydrated salt....


its 0.08 cuz (1:1) ratio
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 03:08:08 pm
yup, srry its the concentration od sulphuric acid,lol
lil wayne hos do i do get the maximum moles of hydrated salt....


its 0.08 cuz (1:1) ratio

the nickel sulphate from the past part was 0.08 mol so the hydrated salt would also be 0.08
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Post by: Shogun on May 29, 2009, 03:09:56 pm
lol y dint i think bout that..Thanks mate :D
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Post by: Coco on May 29, 2009, 03:13:47 pm
eyy yall
err i was wonderin if sum1 cud upload tha marking schemes for the year 2000 may/ june n Oct/ nov
n also 2001!!
ayt
also was wonderin how many past papers shall i solve in order to get an A*? 8)
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 03:18:43 pm
eyy yall
err i was wonderin if sum1 cud upload tha marking schemes for the year 2000 may/ june n Oct/ nov
n also 2001!!
ayt
also was wonderin how many past papers shall i solve in order to get an A*? 8)

hahaah, how about doing 10 YEARS of pastpapers just to guarentee ur A*
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Post by: Shogun on May 29, 2009, 03:20:00 pm
lol atleast onwards 2005 or like lil wayne said....(lol but lil waynes idea, woulf give u 98% sure tht ull get A*)lol
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Post by: emi on May 29, 2009, 03:21:57 pm
thanks guys i get the first part all now .. but about part ii  the max moles ,  is it like always if there is one mole it will me 0.08 ?
and why we didnt use the 10.4 in anything ??

can some one just complete that part till the percentage yield thanks <3
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Post by: Coco on May 29, 2009, 03:23:11 pm
im aiming for a 100% :) [which i wont get cuz i screwed up paper 6]
n yes 10 years is ideal
Thanx yo!
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Post by: lana on May 29, 2009, 03:28:38 pm
somebody please explain this to me ...when a reaction cool or lose heat it's endothermic right ? because energy is taken in ? please correct me if I'm wrong because in pp3 in June 08 mark scheme  it's the opposite !!! so I'm totally confused  :-\
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 03:30:40 pm
thanks guys i get the first part all now .. but about part ii  the max moles ,  is it like always if there is one mole it will me 0.08 ?
and why we didnt use the 10.4 in anything ??

can some one just complete that part till the percentage yield thanks <3

its because you do not know the mass of NiSO4 that reacted, maybe half of it reacted , all u know i that the number of moles of NiSO4 is 0.08 mol
and since it is 1:1 ratio so, if all the NiSO4 reacted that means that maximun number of crystals would be fromed which has a mol of 0.08 (1:1 ratio)
and to find the maximum mass use the formula: mass = moles x mr ----> 0.08  x  281 = 22.48
so that is the maxmun mass that could be produced
the percentage yeild is given by the formula : mass given/theoritical amount  x 100
so in this case 10.4/22.48  x 100  =   46.3%
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 03:33:53 pm
somebody please explain this to me ...when a reaction cool or lose heat it's endothermic right ? because energy is taken in ? please correct me if I'm wrong because in pp3 in June 08 mark scheme  it's the opposite !!! so I'm totally confused  :-\

hahahah ur right, but in jun08 u misunderstood it probabley, cuz over the arrow its says cool, that means that when u cool it it gives u a greater yeild of COCl2, because the forward reaction is exo so decreasing temp would shift equliberium to the right , to increase temp thus producing more yeild of COCl2
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Post by: emi on May 29, 2009, 03:37:00 pm
thanks alot
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 03:38:31 pm
thanks alot

ur welcome, ;)
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Post by: lana on May 29, 2009, 03:39:36 pm
ooh ok !!! :P thanks alot and seriously lilwayne your the best !!! ;D
+rep for you
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 03:41:00 pm
ooh ok !!! :P thanks allot and seriously lilwayne your the best !!! ;D
+rep for you

Thanks  :D
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Post by: emi on May 29, 2009, 03:44:50 pm
Quote
somebody please explain this to me ...when a reaction cool or lose heat it's endothermic right ? because energy is taken in ? please correct me if I'm wrong because in pp3 in June 08 mark scheme  it's the opposite !!! so I'm totally confused  Undecidedaa

i think you are wrong .. because when a reaction lose heat means its exothermic  and when it takes heat in then its endothermic when it loses energy then how is the energy takin in ?  that happens in endothermic reactions where it takes energy in , exothermic gives energy out .

and MS is correct
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 03:47:53 pm
Quote
somebody please explain this to me ...when a reaction cool or lose heat it's endothermic right ? because energy is taken in ? please correct me if I'm wrong because in pp3 in June 08 mark scheme  it's the opposite !!! so I'm totally confused  Undecidedaa

i think you are wrong .. because when a reaction lose heat means its exothermic  and when it takes heat in then its endothermic when it loses energy then how is the energy takin in ?  that happens in endothermic reactions where it takes energy in , exothermic gives energy out .

and MS is correct


emi she got confused cuz in the jun08 there is a reversible reaction and on the top  arrow it says cool, so she thought it was endothermic but in the markscheme the froward reaction is exo, im sure she knows the differanc between exo and endo
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Post by: lana on May 29, 2009, 04:01:38 pm
no I'm right exothermic is when energy is given out so the temperature increases and endothermic is when energy is taken so the temperature decreases but i just misunderstood the question that's all ....!!!
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 04:05:54 pm
no I'm right exothermic is when energy is given out so the temperature increases and endothermic is when energy is taken so the temperature decreases but i just misunderstood the question that's all ....!!!

actually the first time u asked was wrong , lol, but now u know the right concept, so stop makin a big fuss about it , haha,lol  :P
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Post by: idol2009 on May 29, 2009, 04:08:09 pm
Hey I got a question: how are organic/carboxylic acids made? Is it by acidifying, or is it by oxidizing with potassium magnanate(or another oxidizing agent, or both together? Just confused as to if both the methods are correct, and if they are supposed to be used together...
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 04:10:05 pm
Hey I got a question: how are organic/carboxylic acids made? Is it by acidifying, or is it by oxidizing with potassium magnanate(or another oxidizing agent, or both together? Just confused as to if both the methods are correct, and if they are supposed to be used together...

carboxlyic acids are usually made by oxidising alcahols ( it doesnt matter which oxidising agent u use)
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 04:11:36 pm
thats why u sometimes get a question in fermintation about why oxygen should not be present in the flask or container
and the ans is because it can oxidise the ethanol into ethanoic acid (vinegar)
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 04:21:30 pm
i wish the 2009 chem paper 3 comes as easy as the jun 08
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Post by: emi on May 29, 2009, 04:24:06 pm
yes lilwayne though i have feelings that it will be
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 04:33:45 pm
yes lilwayne though i have feelings that it will be

anywayz if u study properley , everthng is gonna be easy!!!
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Post by: annie_angel on May 29, 2009, 04:49:32 pm
yes..correct...forgot lithium
anyway we can change it a bit

peter's sister lauren can murder a ..............

lol
haha
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!LOL!!!tht is so funny!!!
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Post by: Shogun on May 29, 2009, 05:19:57 pm
lol lil wayne, wat u wanna be when u grow up?
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 05:24:52 pm
lol lil wayne, wat u wanna be when u grow up?

a doctor or pharmacist... u?
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Post by: Summer :] on May 29, 2009, 05:30:03 pm
how do we know if a reaction is endothermic?!

If heat was taken in, it's usually shown by a rise in temperature :)))
For example, you could put a thermometer inside and measure the inital temperature then the final temperature, you'll see that the temperature increased

Endothermic is the opposite way around, its shown as a decrease in temperature
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Post by: AN10 on May 29, 2009, 05:33:58 pm
During electrolysis, what is the effect of adding water to dilute sulfuric acid on the brightness of bulb ???
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 05:35:30 pm
During electrolysis, what is the effect of adding water to dilute sulfuric acid on the brightness of bulb ???

it makes the sulphuric acid more dilute, so the bulb's brightness decreases. i think
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Post by: X Abdulrahman X on May 29, 2009, 05:39:03 pm
how do we know if a reaction is endothermic?!

The temp would fall, this is because it takes more energy/heat to break the bonds between the atoms, if it was exothermic, then more energy would be used to form new bonds, and the temp. raises
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Post by: X Abdulrahman X on May 29, 2009, 05:40:10 pm
During electrolysis, what is the effect of adding water to dilute sulfuric acid on the brightness of bulb ???

it makes the sulphuric acid more dilute, so the bulb's brightness decreases. i think

ur right, by the looks of it u will pass chem very well :P
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 05:41:28 pm
During electrolysis, what is the effect of adding water to dilute sulfuric acid on the brightness of bulb ???

it makes the sulphuric acid more dilute, so the bulb's brightness decreases. i think

ur right, by the looks of it u will pass chem very well :P

Thanks, hope u do well on ur exam to
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Post by: X Abdulrahman X on May 29, 2009, 05:43:55 pm
thanx :)
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Post by: ~M.J~ on May 29, 2009, 05:44:31 pm
is carboxylic acid and ethanoic acid the same?
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Post by: X Abdulrahman X on May 29, 2009, 05:47:42 pm
is carboxylic acid and ethanoic acid the same?

ethanoic acid is used as a preservative and flavouring.
carboxylic acids are made by the oxidation of alcohols
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Post by: ~M.J~ on May 29, 2009, 05:52:44 pm
is carboxylic acid and ethanoic acid the same?

ethanoic acid is used as a preservative and flavouring.
carboxylic acids are made by the oxidation of alcohols
so they r the same!
cuz alchohols oxidize 2 form ethanoic acids
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Post by: Shogun on May 29, 2009, 06:03:00 pm
is carboxylic acid and ethanoic acid the same?

ethanoic acid is an example of carboxylic acid.
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Post by: ~M.J~ on May 29, 2009, 06:05:52 pm
is carboxylic acid and ethanoic acid the same?

ethanoic acid is an example of carboxylic acid.
thanx
u have a crystal clear concept
may Allah bless u with an A*
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Post by: kam on May 29, 2009, 06:07:19 pm
how do we know if a reaction is endothermic?!

The temp would fall, this is because it takes more energy/heat to break the bonds between the atoms, if it was exothermic, then more energy would be used to form new bonds, and the temp. raises

correct me if im wrong but i thought it was the other way round
cuz endo takes in heat so temp rises(positive)
and exo gives out heat go temp falls(negative)
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on May 29, 2009, 06:13:16 pm
exo...is one a substance gives out heat...therefor the temp. of the surroundings rise..

vive versa for endo
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Post by: ~M.J~ on May 29, 2009, 06:15:50 pm
how do we know if a reaction is endothermic?!

The temp would fall, this is because it takes more energy/heat to break the bonds between the atoms, if it was exothermic, then more energy would be used to form new bonds, and the temp. raises

correct me if im wrong but i thought it was the other way round
cuz endo takes in heat so temp rises(positive)
and exo gives out heat go temp falls(negative)
the heat source always has a higher temperature than the surrounding
in a redox reaction heat is not displaced it is either produced or used up
here the temperature is referred to the surrounding not the reagents
so in an exothermic reaction heat is produced which increasaes the temp. of the surrounding   so the temperature is increased
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Post by: X Abdulrahman X on May 29, 2009, 06:16:58 pm
Bond breaking is an endothermic process.
Bond making is an exothermic process.
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Post by: sweetsh on May 29, 2009, 06:18:55 pm
We don't need to know more than this about bond forming and breaking right?
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Post by: X Abdulrahman X on May 29, 2009, 06:26:27 pm
Nope :)
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Post by: AN10 on May 29, 2009, 06:33:32 pm
During electrolysis, what is the effect of adding water to dilute sulfuric acid on the brightness of bulb ???

it makes the sulphuric acid more dilute, so the bulb's brightness decreases. i think

 i have a confusion... i thought adding water would mean more H+ n OH- ions... so as da conc increases da bulb should becum more bright..
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Post by: X Abdulrahman X on May 29, 2009, 06:37:37 pm
nope, a higher concentration of sulphuric acid means the bulb will light more, imagine u have a beaker filled with water and little sulphuric acid, then the bulb would be very dull, but if u have little water and lots of sulphuric acid then it would be brighter
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Post by: AN10 on May 29, 2009, 06:40:35 pm
i guess u r ite
Title: MOLES
Post by: pedrojosetrujillo on May 29, 2009, 06:42:39 pm
How do you claculate the Moles of a gas and how do you calaculate concetration?
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Post by: care on May 29, 2009, 06:47:34 pm
n = V / V(m)        (V(m)=24 dm^3/mol)

c = n / V
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 29, 2009, 07:24:14 pm
During electrolysis, what is the effect of adding water to dilute sulfuric acid on the brightness of bulb ???

it decreases - i think as the concentration is decreased
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Post by: islu_jf on May 29, 2009, 07:40:43 pm
How can u test if the acid is weak or Strong... ??
other than PH???
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Post by: kam on May 29, 2009, 07:43:40 pm
How can u test if the acid is weak or Strong... ??
other than PH???

universal indicator
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Post by: islu_jf on May 29, 2009, 07:45:02 pm
isnt there any other way??!
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Post by: AN10 on May 29, 2009, 07:49:07 pm
-by investigating the rate of reaction of da 2 acids- for eg reaction b/w an acid and a metal, measure the volume of hydrogen gas given over a certain time interval, calculate the rate of reaction, the strong acid has a higher rate of reaction.

- by electrolysis of the two acids, as strong acid ionizes fully, the bulb will be more bright.
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Post by: cactus_360 on May 29, 2009, 07:57:58 pm
at da same concentration the stronger acid will be a better conductor of electricty
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Post by: Summer :] on May 29, 2009, 08:00:04 pm
isnt there any other way??!

In a strong acid, all of the molecules when dissolved in water turn into ions
and in a weak acid not all of the molecules turn into ions

so you could simply dissolve them in water and use a Conductivity meter and measure there conductivity, if their conductivity is higher (due to the presence of more ions to carry the charge then it must be a strong acid)
if their conducitivity is pretty low (due to lack of ions then it must be a weak acid)
Title: Re: Chemistry 2009!!! Paper 3 prep.....
Post by: Summer :] on May 29, 2009, 09:58:35 pm
thats interesting, i got a whole bunch of different answers

Potassium Iodide is a reducing agent which means it brings about the reduction of others but itself is oxidised so for example you can test for it, by adding potassium manganate which is an oxidising agent it will bring about the oxidation of potassium iodide and itself will be reduced.

Potassium Manganate - will change from purple to colourless it has been reduced
Potassium Iodide - will change from colourless to orange because it has been oxidised to Iodine

OR...
when potassium iodide is added to hydrogen peroxide and sulphuric acid
the products will be iodine,potassim sulphate and water

H2O2 + 2KL + H2SO4 --> I2 + K2SO4 + 2H2O

you can note that hydrogen peroxide has been reduced (loses oxygen) and potassium iodide has acted as the reducing agent where it has been oxidised..
2I- ---> I2
(Colouless) to (red-brown)

My mum is a chemical engineer so she helps me alot with those kinda stuff  :P  :)
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: unknown 101 on May 29, 2009, 10:22:51 pm
How can u test if the acid is weak or Strong... ??
other than PH???
a strong acid would completley dissociate in water
a weak acid partially dissociates in water
this could be used to define the term strong acid and weak acid

othr than pH u could do a reaction, maybe acid + alkali (nuetralization)
use same volume and conc. of alkali, and see which acid neutralizes the alkali the fastest
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: islu_jf on May 29, 2009, 10:52:46 pm
ohhhhhhhhh i got it..
Thanx guys..
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: AS girl on May 30, 2009, 12:20:51 am
We don't need to know more than this about bond forming and breaking right?

This is the only thing u need to know about
Bond breaking=exothermic(negative)
Bond formation=endothermic (positive)

 ;)
Title: Re: MOLES
Post by: ramezamgad on May 30, 2009, 01:28:06 am
the 3 rules for moles

1) No. of moles = Mass / (Mr or Ar)          -----> for solids
2) No. of moles = Volume x concentration  -----> for liquids
3) No. of moles = Volume / 24                 -----> for gases

in the second eq. the volume should be in dm3 and conc. in mol/dm3
24 is the volume in dm3 of 1 mole of any gas at room temperature and pressure
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: Nanavel on May 30, 2009, 03:12:39 am
you all are SUPERB ! lil wyne >> you are guranteed an A* already ... I wish i was this awesome as you are  ..  double + rep

so is shogun .. I learned alot of things from you guys .. Thanx alot for helping all of us out .. Insha'llah i will get A* too  >> very optimistic >> did alot of sillyness in paper 6 actually in chemistry and Biology i screwed in them  not because i dont know the anwers because i am all doing the paper with hurry and excitment and i dont read full questions .. so i mess up alot

I hope i wont do any stupidity this time
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: aquarian93 on May 30, 2009, 04:38:27 am
u guys
"what property of SO2 enables it be used as a bleaching agent?"
thanks!
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: hell_devil on May 30, 2009, 04:59:46 am
what r da imprtant things dat we ned 2 learn frm application part???????i don undrstand anythin frm da part....
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: aquarian93 on May 30, 2009, 05:02:16 am
how do we know if a reaction is endothermic?!

The temp would fall, this is because it takes more energy/heat to break the bonds between the atoms, if it was exothermic, then more energy would be used to form new bonds, and the temp. raises

correct me if im wrong but i thought it was the other way round
cuz endo takes in heat so temp rises(positive)
and exo gives out heat go temp falls(negative)
the heat source always has a higher temperature than the surrounding
in a redox reaction heat is not displaced it is either produced or used up
here the temperature is referred to the surrounding not the reagents
so in an exothermic reaction heat is produced which increasaes the temp. of the surrounding   so the temperature is increased

so do u mean dat is according to the surrounding?
so exothermic (even if heat is given out) the temp increases
and endothermic (even if heat is absorbed) the temp decreases

so its abt the surrounding rite?  ???
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: AN10 on May 30, 2009, 05:18:06 am
u guys
"what property of SO2 enables it be used as a bleaching agent?"
thanks!
sulphur dioxide is a good reducing agent. In the presence of water, it is able to decolourize substances.
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: guru007 on May 30, 2009, 05:40:33 am
hey guys,

as the chemsitry exam is on the 1st of june, u must all be revising, and u MUST have some questions,

so if u have any CHEMISTRY questions, post them here and hopefully some one will help.

Gd Luck  :)



Hey Q80BOY
can u plz explain me extraction of aluminium ???
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: aquarian93 on May 30, 2009, 05:43:45 am
u guys
"what property of SO2 enables it be used as a bleaching agent?"
thanks!
sulphur dioxide is a good reducing agent. In the presence of water, it is able to decolourize substances.
thank you! :)
+REP
Title: EXTRACTION OF METALS
Post by: guru007 on May 30, 2009, 05:50:53 am
Can someone help me in extraction of zinc and aluminium ???
Title: Re: EXTRACTION OF METALS
Post by: thukon on May 30, 2009, 06:55:06 am
for zinc, u heat the ore (zinc blende, or zinc sulphide) and it will become zinc oxide and sulphur dioxide. Then u reduce the zinc oxide with carbon monoxide. For aluminium, u have to add sodium hydroxide to the aluminium ore (bauxite) get rid of the iron III oxide impurities. The result is alumina or aluminium oxide. Dissolve this alumina in molten cryolite (to lower the temperature needed for the electrolysis) and then electrolyse it. U get aluminium. The anode is graphite. The cathode is steel i think.
Title: Re: Chemistry 2009!!! Paper 3 prep.....
Post by: aquarian93 on May 30, 2009, 07:04:59 am
do we need to noe the % of carbon, properties and uses of carbon steels?
and do we need to noe the metals added, properties and uses of alloy steels?
???
Title: Re: MOLES
Post by: saifalan on May 30, 2009, 07:12:58 am
1 mole,n = 6.023 x 10^(23) of any gas particles.

6.023 x 10 ^(23) is also called the Avogardo Constant, NA.

Total no. of particles, N= nNA
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: aquarian93 on May 30, 2009, 08:12:58 am
do we need to noe the % of carbon, properties and uses of carbon steels?
and do we need to noe the metals added, properties and uses of alloy steels?
???
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: X Abdulrahman X on May 30, 2009, 08:27:58 am
do we need to noe the % of carbon, properties and uses of carbon steels?
and do we need to noe the metals added, properties and uses of alloy steels?
???

Yup it does come up sometimes, and they are easy 2-4 marks :)
Title: Re: Chemistry 2009!!! Paper 3 prep.....
Post by: ig_kid on May 30, 2009, 08:29:50 am
Yes...u need 2 noe all these stuff. ;)
Its annoying cz we hv alot 2 study and not enough time.
Title: Re: Chemistry 2009!!! Paper 3 prep.....
Post by: aquarian93 on May 30, 2009, 08:39:44 am
omg, i ws hoping we dnt hav to :(
yes its annoying cuz its jus too much of memorizing :(
*sigh*
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: aquarian93 on May 30, 2009, 08:40:54 am
so we hav to memorize da percentages and stuff? :(
i was hoping we don hav to :(
Title: Re: MOLES
Post by: SGVaibhav on May 30, 2009, 08:57:47 am
please ask this in the chemistry thread.
Title: Re: Chemistry 2009!!! Paper 3 prep.....
Post by: SGVaibhav on May 30, 2009, 08:58:35 am
im not locking this thread, but please ask in the chemistry thread.
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: Shogun on May 30, 2009, 09:03:03 am
so we hav to memorize da percentages and stuff? :(
i was hoping we don hav to :(

tht, yup ithink u gotta learn the percentage of substance contained in different type and steal

the property of so2 which helps is bleaching is paper making. now aquarian the explaination u recieved for this was how it helps, but in many past papers it says y this property is importanat , u gotta right cuz it helps in making paper. but if they say why its used to make paper, then the answer would be the explaination of AN10
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: Shogun on May 30, 2009, 09:12:13 am
hey guys,

as the chemsitry exam is on the 1st of june, u must all be revising, and u MUST have some questions,

so if u have any CHEMISTRY questions, post them here and hopefully some one will help.

Gd Luck  :)



Hey Q80BOY
can u plz explain me extraction of aluminium ???


hey. extraction of aluminium works like this:
1)MOLTEN bauxite (aluminium oxide) is added to the vessel as an electrolyte.
2)sodium hydroxide is added to remove impurities like iron(II)oxides and sand.
3)since the boiling point of aluminium oxide is 2000oC, this will waste gr8 amount of energy. so to avoid this, cryolite is added to reduce its boiling point to 900oC.
4)then elctrolysis takes place, where aluminium becomes the cation and goes towards the cathode and settels at the bottom (as it is more dense) where it is extracted from.
5)the hot oxygen gas becomes an anion, rises towards the anode. Now the anode and cathode is made out f graphite(carbon), so the hot oxygen at the anode reacts with the carbon made anode to form carbon dioxide and eventually wear off. so then the anode shoul eventually be replaced.

well thts all, hope u understand, now they may ask u y carbon cannot be used to displace the oxygen from aluminium oxide to get aluminium. the answer,it wont happen, cuz carbon is more reactive than auminium(refer the reactivity series)

anything else u nedd just ask me ;D
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: X Abdulrahman X on May 30, 2009, 09:15:22 am
very nice explaination, + rep :]
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: Shogun on May 30, 2009, 09:18:06 am
Thanks, i made a mistake where i wrote tht aluminiuim settles at the bottom cuz it is "less dense" it should ve been "more dense" but dnt worry i modified it, (just to infrom)
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: zara on May 30, 2009, 09:35:06 am
im reallii confused in naming the alcohols...cn summon tll me plz.. ???
i need an explanation..
Thanks..
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: Tutu_93 on May 30, 2009, 10:32:04 am
I have a dought in may june 2008 ( second variant) q 4 ii in balancing
I worked it out and i got this Li2O+ H2so4 = Li2SO4+ H2O
But in the marking scheme it is Li2O + H2SO4  Li2SO4 + 2H2O  ?? can i knw y ??? ???
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: zara on May 30, 2009, 10:35:18 am
okay...so now where did all the chemistry geniuses went??

n y did my rep go down??
Title: Re: MOLES
Post by: saifalan on May 30, 2009, 10:37:07 am
Sgv merge it with any Chem topics. I wuld have done it myself but dont knw which to merge it with.
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: aquarian93 on May 30, 2009, 10:37:48 am
im reallii confused in naming the alcohols...cn summon tll me plz.. ???
i need an explanation..
Thanks..

OH is the functional group, so all alcohols need hav the "OH" in their symbol.

the first one is CH3OH - Methanol (which can make u blind)
the second one is C2H5OH - Ethanol
the third on is C3H7OH - Propanol
the fourth one is C4H9OH - Butanol
the fifth one is C5H11OH - Pentanol
the sixth one is C6H13OH - Hexanol

and so on

Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: zara on May 30, 2009, 10:42:26 am
no i didnt mean this...
i meant to ask about the naming of the isomers of alcohols???
how to do that...
like for alkenes isomers we 1st chk where the double bond comes n gets the lowest number and then depending on it the alkyl group is numbered..

so how to do this naming for the isomers of alcohols???

plz help..
Title: Re: MOLES
Post by: SGVaibhav on May 30, 2009, 10:49:47 am
hmm i have never tried.
so i am scared, what if i do some huge error.
it has to be merged with the thread "Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!"
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: Tutu_93 on May 30, 2009, 10:50:06 am
No one ?? :-[
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: Shogun on May 30, 2009, 10:56:01 am
alright then, to get any alcohol, if u would want to convert an alkane to an alcohol all u gotto to do is take out 1 hydrogen.

see methane is CH4 do methanal would be CH3OH with 1 H missing
now tht was the molecular formula what about the structural formula

lets say methane:  H                                  so methanol would be:    H
                               l                                                                            l
                          H- C-H                                                                    H-C-H
                               l                                                                             l
                              H                                                                            OH ===>with H replaced with an OH

same with all the other alkanes. for eg ethan (C2H6) then ethanol would be C2H5) OH) with 1 H(hydrogen atom) missing, and the same with its structural formula.
in the name all u got to do is add -ol-. instead of -ane-,

for eg:the -ane- in propane is replaced by -ol- to be propanol

now the isomer, u just have to move the -OH- from the structural formula
eg: butan-1-ol :                                                  
                          H H H H                                                                      
                           l  l   l  l
                       H-C-C-C-C-OH              
                           l   l   l  l
                          H  H H H

Butan-3-ol
                          H H H H
                           l  l   l  l                                                                    
                       H-C-C-C-C-H            
                           l   l   l  l
                          H  OH H H
Now see the number on the name depends on the the number of carbon (which is 3 here)(counted from the right) u moved the OH. see u moved the OH to the 3rd Carbon(from the right). If it was moved to the 2nd carbon then it would be name butan-2-ol. just place the number between the name and the "ol". u can also count from the left but the numbers change, but be sure tp follow the rules of isomerese where u should not place the OH on the last carbon atom of the structural formula.

ther u go, hope u understand
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: thukon on May 30, 2009, 11:03:18 am
all u have to do is take the number of carbons- for example if there are 6 carbons, then write "HEXAN"
Then, see where the OH functional group is- If its on the 2nd carbon (doesnt really matter what direction u count from, so it could be 2nd or 4th carbon) then write 2
Finally, since its and alcohol, u have to put the suffix -ol.
So we would end up with hexan-2-ol.
IF we have 2 OH groups, for example if theres and OH branching out from the 2nd and 3rd carbon, you have to write Hexan-2,3-diol.
IF the carbons have a double bond between them, then this would be an alkene, so you have to write Hexen-2-ol (the a in hexane is now an e)
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: SGVaibhav on May 30, 2009, 11:08:37 am
Can anyone please solve this organic chemistry question.
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: thukon on May 30, 2009, 11:27:26 am
Here u go.


AHHHH MY REP KEEPS GOING DOWN. WILL THOSE (mind ur vocab)_______ WHO DECREASE REP FOR FUN PLEASE STOP?
AND WILL THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD PROBABLY DECREASE MY REP BECAUSE I JUST SWORE PLEASE GROW UP?
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: nid404 on May 30, 2009, 11:29:19 am
remove a water molecule. form the peptide link

so it becomes

(-NH-(CH2)6-NHOC-(CH2)6CO-)

CONH-peptide link
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: zara on May 30, 2009, 11:29:56 am
@thukon
Thanks.... but m confused...u said dat it can be 2nd or 4th carbon....so how do v kno whch to choose n rite??
@shogun
Thanks...is it necessary dat v count frm the rite...if not then above is my doubt...

my actual doubt..

for example if we have to write the isomers of pentanol:
how will we name this one:
      OH
    !  !  !   !
H-C-C-C-C-H
    !  !  !  !
        -C-
          !
look here the OH is either on 2nd and the alkyl group(methyl) is on 3rd.....or OH is on 3rd and the alkyl grp on 2nd.......how to name this???

god i hate this soooo much!!!!



plzzzzz help!!!!
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: SGVaibhav on May 30, 2009, 11:33:11 am
Here u go.


AHHHH MY REP KEEPS GOING DOWN. WILL THOSE (mind ur vocab)_______ WHO DECREASE REP FOR FUN PLEASE STOP?
AND WILL THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD PROBABLY DECREASE MY REP BECAUSE I JUST SWORE PLEASE GROW UP?

there is a problem with the rep system, so at times it goes low automatically.
We will try to bring it to +ve by doing +rep like how i did now.
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: zara on May 30, 2009, 11:37:08 am
Here u go.


AHHHH MY REP KEEPS GOING DOWN. WILL THOSE BITCHES WHO DECREASE REP FOR FUN PLEASE STOP?
AND WILL THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD PROBABLY DECREASE MY REP BECAUSE I JUST SWORE PLEASE GROW UP?
+repped u!!!
for ur help!!;D
but plz dont use slang languages....n hw r u so sure dat its nly guls hu r decreasin ur reps??

neways plz clear my doubt iv posted just couple of mins ago...
Thanks..
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: thukon on May 30, 2009, 11:38:20 am
@thukon
Thanks.... but m confused...u said dat it can be 2nd or 4th carbon....so how do v kno whch to choose n rite??
@shogun
Thanks...is it necessary dat v count frm the rite...if not then above is my doubt...

my actual doubt..

for example if we have to write the isomers of pentanol:
how will we name this one:
      OH
    !  !  !   !
H-C-C-C-C-H
    !  !  !  !
        -C-
          !
look here the OH is either on 2nd and the alkyl group(methyl) is on 3rd.....or OH is on 3rd and the alkyl grp on 2nd.......how to name this???

god i hate this soooo much!!!!



plzzzzz help!!!!

It doesnt matter which one you choose, or whether u count the first carbon from the right or left, but what does matter is that u count from the same direction for all the questions concerning the hydrocarbon. For example if you count from the left, then for every question that concerns the same hydrocarbon you should count from the left. What im saying is u cant change directions.

For ur actual doubt. In the isomer, a brach with 1 carbon and 3 hydrogens is sticking out. Thats methyl.
So its 3-Methylbutan-2-ol, because the methyl branches out of the 3rd carbon (counting from the left.) The general formula for alkyls like methyl, ethyl, is Cn H2n+1
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: nid404 on May 30, 2009, 11:40:02 am

thukon's right
 2-methylbutan-3-ol(or 3-methylbutan-2-ol)
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: SGVaibhav on May 30, 2009, 11:41:58 am
Is this what we were supposed to right, or are we supposed to do something else only?
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: zara on May 30, 2009, 11:43:58 am
oh....rite...now i get it!!!
Thanks a lot!!!!!!
+rep both of u...
thukon n nid404.....
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: SGVaibhav on May 30, 2009, 11:44:21 am
i think it is the same thing
lol im dumb       >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(


but are you sure that we are supposed to do this only and there is nothing else involved?
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: thukon on May 30, 2009, 11:47:01 am
Is this what we were supposed to right, or are we supposed to do something else only?
It gives the formula for both the hydrocarbons that are forming the nylon, so i think u have to write the whole structural formula, and not just put boxes.

@Zara.I generally use THE B WORD for both genders. That way, if its a guy, hes more insulted because im referring to him as a girl. GEt iT? ;)
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: SGVaibhav on May 30, 2009, 11:48:52 am
So can u show me the answer please
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: nid404 on May 30, 2009, 11:49:16 am
i think it is the same thing
lol im dumb       >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(


but are you sure that we are supposed to do this only and there is nothing else involved?

when they give you the carboxyl and diamide u do this but when they ask for the formula of the nylon)as in in the q u asked) u simply replace the boxes with the group(alkane) (CH2)6
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: zara on May 30, 2009, 11:50:52 am
@thukin
ahaan!!!
 :D :D
lollzz...
but still ull use such wrds n ull end up gettin mor -reps...
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: thukon on May 30, 2009, 11:52:51 am
b4... i said that the general formula of alkyls is Cn H2n-1. MISTAKE!!!!Its Cn H2n+1.
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: zara on May 30, 2009, 11:55:44 am
yea its +1...u betta modify it in the previous post so dat others dont get mistaken....
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: SGVaibhav on May 30, 2009, 11:56:53 am
@thukin
ahaan!!!
 :D :D
lollzz...
but still ull use such wrds n ull end up gettin mor -reps...

he cant get -rep because that post has already been edited  :P
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: thukon on May 30, 2009, 12:03:29 pm
My b word may have been removed and changed to "wach ur vocab", but zara quoted me, and there it hasnt changed. OOpsies. Looks like a little studentforums bug. The inability to change quotes.
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: nid404 on May 30, 2009, 12:03:47 pm
vaibhav have a look at the pdf

I have drawn the structure of the nylon
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: unknown 101 on May 30, 2009, 12:05:50 pm
hahaha lol thukon
anywayz i have a question for everybody
how would u find the percentage of oxygen in a gas jar that contains 150 cm3 of air?
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: nid404 on May 30, 2009, 12:15:21 pm
hahaha lol thukon
anywayz i have a question for everybody
how would u find the percentage of oxygen in a gas jar that contains 150 cm3 of air?

u like testing others. don't u??

well i believe it is 20% of the volume
that would be 30cm3

now tell us the right ans "LIL" teacher :P
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: thukon on May 30, 2009, 12:18:54 pm
hahaha lol thukon
anywayz i have a question for everybody
how would u find the percentage of oxygen in a gas jar that contains 150 cm3 of air?
Wait, was it a test, or is it ur own genuine doubt, and do these kind of questions appear in IGCSE which means we have to MUG UP THE PERCENTAGES OF DIFFERENT GASES IN THE ATMOSPHERE?!
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: unknown 101 on May 30, 2009, 12:20:52 pm
hahaha lol thukon
anywayz i have a question for everybody
how would u find the percentage of oxygen in a gas jar that contains 150 cm3 of air?

u like testing others. don't u??

well i believe it is 20% of the volume
that would be 30cm3

now tell us the right ans "LIL" teacher :P

ahahaha, yeah i do like testin ppl, lol
anyone else before i give the answe

and thukon this question came up before in one of the pastpapers, and it just requires a little thinking
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: nid404 on May 30, 2009, 12:21:36 pm
hahaha lol thukon
anywayz i have a question for everybody
how would u find the percentage of oxygen in a gas jar that contains 150 cm3 of air?
Wait, was it a test, or is it ur own genuine doubt, and do these kind of questions appear in IGCSE which means we have to MUG UP THE PERCENTAGES OF DIFFERENT GASES IN THE ATMOSPHERE?!

yup those of nitrogen, oxygen and CO2

79%,20% and 0.04% respectively
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: thukon on May 30, 2009, 12:24:08 pm
Im guessing you have to burn the gas and measure the final volune, but most probably wrong because CO2 is produced. And lilwayne, ur signature pic is giving me seizures. lol.
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: nid404 on May 30, 2009, 12:29:01 pm
keep iron filings in a jar with 150cm3 of air. Keep this jar inverted over a trough filled with water. note the rise in volume of water. this is the volume of air displaced is the volume of oxygen
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: zara on May 30, 2009, 12:30:08 pm
hahaha lol thukon
anywayz i have a question for everybody
how would u find the percentage of oxygen in a gas jar that contains 150 cm3 of air?

i hv a realli gud bk>>>GCSE edition>>Chemistry made clear...
in it there is an experiment to show the % of oxygen present in 100cm3

The apparatus:
Is a hard tube glass, connected to two gas syringes, A and B. The tube is packed with small pieces of pink copper wire. One syringe contains 100cm3  of air and the other is empty.

The experiment:
1.The tube is heated by a bunsen.When the plunger of syringe A is pushed in, the air gets forced thru the heated tube, into B. As the air passes over the hot copper wire, the oxygen in it reacts with the wire, which starts to turn black. Next the plunger of B is pushed in, so the air is forced back to A. This is repeated several times.

2. After about 3 mins, heating is stopped. The apparatus is allowed to cool down. Then all the gas is pushed into one of the syringes and its volume measured.(The volume is now less than the 100cm3).

3.Steps 1 and 2 are repeated until the volume of gas no longer decreases. This is a sign that all the oxygen in the syringe has been used up. The final volume is noted.

The results:
Vol of gas at start:100cm3
Vol of gas at end:79cm3
Vol of gas used up:21cm3
So 100cm3 of air contains 21cm3 of oxygen.
therefore,, % of oxygen=(21/100)*100=21%
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 30, 2009, 12:32:49 pm
lol i removed it , cuz it was also pissing me off


its a good way to find outt ow much oxygen was there, but thats going to take u about 3 days, cuz rusting is a slow process, but its right and u forgot that i asked for PERCENTAGE not volume

nice try zara , but i asked for a 150 cm3 not a 100cm3, but the way u choose to do it is the correct way!!
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Post by: zara on May 30, 2009, 12:34:35 pm
yea i kno u askd for 150cm3 but then its the same way...actually this is exactly wats written in the txt bk....
so instead of 100cm3 u take 150 cm3 n do the experiment..
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 30, 2009, 12:35:09 pm
if u change the 100 cm3 to 150cm3 and say the volume of oxygen present is 31.5
and do 31.5/150 x 100 = 21%
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Post by: nid404 on May 30, 2009, 12:35:43 pm
so any which ways it's 20% of the total volume of air. Any method will do
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Post by: 12345abc on May 30, 2009, 12:37:07 pm
here's some problems i had:
1.how do we write overall equations,e.g for habers process?
2. rust prevention-the mechanisms
3.why is a crucible in which magnesium oxide is being made covered with a lid?
4.colour of flame when there is incomplete combustion?
5.what reacts at room temp. with ethanol and ethanoic acid?
 A. CaCO3     B.CuO     C.CH3OH     D.Na
6.what are synthetic macromolecules?


please help!!! ???
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 30, 2009, 12:37:34 pm
so any which ways it's 20% of the total volume of air. Any method will do

could be 20% or 21%
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Post by: nid404 on May 30, 2009, 12:39:55 pm
so any which ways it's 20% of the total volume of air. Any method will do

could be 20% or 21%

yes sir
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Post by: twilight on May 30, 2009, 12:40:41 pm
4.colour of flame when there is incomplete combustion?

its red or orange .. a clean flame is blue
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 30, 2009, 12:45:53 pm
here's some problems i had:
1.how do we write overall equations,e.g for habers process?
2. rust prevention-the mechanisms
3.why is a crucible in which magnesium oxide is being made covered with a lid?
4.colour of flame when there is incomplete combustion?
5.what reacts at room temp. with ethanol and ethanoic acid?
 A. CaCO3     B.CuO     C.CH3OH     D.Na
6.what are synthetic macromolecules?


please help!!! ???

1) i dont understand wat u mean!!
2)to prevent rust u could, paint the object, greasing or oiling, plastic coating, chromium plating, galvanizing with zinc, using stainless steel (which is corrosion resistant)
3)depends on the process if ur heating molten or aqueous substances then to prevent the splashing out of materials
4)blue = complete.. orange= incomplete
5) C), i think, cuz its the only organic substance  ( ASK SOMEONE ELSE CUZ IM NOT SURE!!)
6)these are man-made polyamide and polyester eg. nylon and terylene
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Post by: SGVaibhav on May 30, 2009, 12:47:44 pm
vaibhav have a look at the pdf

I have drawn the structure of the nylon


is it ok if i get the H above the N
 

like
                                 H
                                 !
......................  . . . .  N
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 30, 2009, 12:49:19 pm
vaibhav have a look at the pdf

I have drawn the structure of the nylon


is it ok if i get the H above the N
 

like
                                 H
                                 !
......................  . . . .  N

yeah no problem in doin that
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Post by: SGVaibhav on May 30, 2009, 12:51:16 pm
ok thank you
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Post by: thukon on May 30, 2009, 12:53:22 pm
here's some problems i had:
1.how do we write overall equations,e.g for habers process?
2. rust prevention-the mechanisms
3.why is a crucible in which magnesium oxide is being made covered with a lid?
4.colour of flame when there is incomplete combustion?
5.what reacts at room temp. with ethanol and ethanoic acid?
 A. CaCO3     B.CuO     C.CH3OH     D.Na
6.what are synthetic macromolecules?


please help!!! ???

1) i dont understand wat u mean!!
2)to prevent rust u could, paint the object, greasing or oiling, plastic coating, chromium plating, galvanizing with zinc, using stainless steel (which is corrosion resistant)
3)depends on the process if ur heating molten or aqueous substances then to prevent the splashing out of materials
4)orange = complete.. blue= incomplete
5) C), i think, cuz its the only organic substance  ( ASK SOMEONE ELSE CUZ IM NOT SURE!!)
6)these are man-made polyamide and polyester eg. nylon and terylene

Lil wayne, uve got the flames mixed up. Blue is complete. Red or orange is incomplete.
The answer is not C for the other thing. I m sure, because C is methanol. Im pretty sure methanol and ethanol dont react at room temp, but i dont know the answer.
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Post by: zara on May 30, 2009, 12:55:03 pm
wait a min...
twilight said that red/orange in case of incomplete combustion....
lilwayne says:orange for complete combustion..

so now whch one is correct??
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 30, 2009, 12:56:11 pm
here's some problems i had:
1.how do we write overall equations,e.g for habers process?
2. rust prevention-the mechanisms
3.why is a crucible in which magnesium oxide is being made covered with a lid?
4.colour of flame when there is incomplete combustion?
5.what reacts at room temp. with ethanol and ethanoic acid?
 A. CaCO3     B.CuO     C.CH3OH     D.Na
6.what are synthetic macromolecules?


please help!!! ???

1) i dont understand wat u mean!!
2)to prevent rust u could, paint the object, greasing or oiling, plastic coating, chromium plating, galvanizing with zinc, using stainless steel (which is corrosion resistant)
3)depends on the process if ur heating molten or aqueous substances then to prevent the splashing out of materials
4)orange = complete.. blue= incomplete
5) C), i think, cuz its the only organic substance  ( ASK SOMEONE ELSE CUZ IM NOT SURE!!)
6)these are man-made polyamide and polyester eg. nylon and terylene

Lil wayne, uve got the flames mixed up. Blue is complete. Red or orange is incomplete.
The answer is not C for the other thing. I m sure, because C is methanol. Im pretty sure methanol and ethanol dont react at room temp, but i dont know the answer.

ohh yeah i just realized, if its not methanol, could it be CuO , cuz it can oxidise ethanol into ethanoic acid, right?
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 30, 2009, 12:57:01 pm
wait a min...
twilight said that red/orange in case of incomplete combustion....
lilwayne says:orange for complete combustion..

so now whch one is correct??

im mistaken zara
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Post by: nid404 on May 30, 2009, 01:03:16 pm
here's some problems i had:
1.how do we write overall equations,e.g for habers process?
2. rust prevention-the mechanisms
3.why is a crucible in which magnesium oxide is being made covered with a lid?
4.colour of flame when there is incomplete combustion?
5.what reacts at room temp. with ethanol and ethanoic acid?
 A. CaCO3     B.CuO     C.CH3OH     D.Na
6.what are synthetic macromolecules?


please help!!! ???
1.N2(g) + 3H2(g)  2NH3(g).
2.painting,galvanising,sacrificial protection, coating with plastic,using oil or grease
3.stops smoke from escaping
4.as twilight rightly said
5. with ethanol- D
with ethanoic acid-A,B,C and D
6.synthetic polymers- nylon,terylene and the like
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Post by: zara on May 30, 2009, 01:05:08 pm
its Na whch reacts with ethanol and ethanoic acid at room temperature...
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Post by: nid404 on May 30, 2009, 01:06:54 pm
its Na whch reacts with ethanol and ethanoic acid at room temperature...

oh so it asks which 1 reacts with both.....yeah so then Na
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Post by: AN10 on May 30, 2009, 01:08:25 pm
why the melting point of alkali metals decreases down the group but of the halogens it increases down the group??
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 30, 2009, 01:10:11 pm
why the melting point of alkali metals decreases down the group but of the halogens it increases down the group??

because thats what the scientists found out when they did tests on them, lol
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Post by: thukon on May 30, 2009, 01:12:54 pm
why the melting point of alkali metals decreases down the group but of the halogens it increases down the group??
Yeah lilwaynes right. Its one of those unexplainable things youd probably only learn why in college.

@nid. What do sodium and ethanol form when reacted? And sodium and ethanoic acid?
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Post by: thukon on May 30, 2009, 01:22:07 pm
@nid. U said ethanoic acid reacts with all 4. What do they form? Are they all addition reactions?
Im going afk. Sorry.
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Post by: AN10 on May 30, 2009, 01:23:07 pm
why the melting point of alkali metals decreases down the group but of the halogens it increases down the group??

because thats what the scientists found out when they did tests on them, lol
LoL..!!
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Post by: nid404 on May 30, 2009, 01:23:36 pm
why the melting point of alkali metals decreases down the group but of the halogens it increases down the group??
Yeah lilwaynes right. Its one of those unexplainable things youd probably only learn why in college.

@nid. What do sodium and ethanol form when reacted? And sodium and ethanoic acid?

with ethanol u get sodium ethoxide (CH3CH2ONa but we don't have alkoxides in our syllabus)and hydrogen is liberated

sodium ethanoate and hydrogen with ethanoic acid
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Post by: thukon on May 30, 2009, 01:26:13 pm
OMG ALKOXIDE?? IM GONNA DIE NOW. but whatever as long as its not in our syllabus. I figured out the sodium ethanoate while waiting for a response, but what about the other 3? U said it reacts with A B C and D.
AFK for real now bye.
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Post by: crypsAnity on May 30, 2009, 01:40:46 pm
Okay,, I am sort of confused .. umm.. do we have to know about the Faraday Constant and all for Chemistry? as in ..in calculations in electolysis ..
because I sort of just checked the syllabus.. couldnt find anything in it .. but its in my book .. n well its a cambridge one =S ..and though i know there are loadsa stuff in it which aint in the syllabus but i our teacher still tells us to study stuff to be on the safe side.. but i honestly dont have time to study all tht.. so pleaseee anyone tell me if they are iN!
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Post by: nid404 on May 30, 2009, 01:45:51 pm
OMG ALKOXIDE?? IM GONNA DIE NOW. but whatever as long as its not in our syllabus. I figured out the sodium ethanoate while waiting for a response, but what about the other 3? U said it reacts with A B C and D.
AFK for real now bye.

with ethanoic acid

ethanol forms ethyl ethanoate
calcium carbonate forms calium ethanoate, carbon dioxide and water
copper oxide forms copper ethanoate and water

my speed's too slow....sorry for the delay

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Post by: nid404 on May 30, 2009, 01:49:54 pm
Okay,, I am sort of confused .. umm.. do we have to know about the Faraday Constant and all for Chemistry? as in ..in calculations in electolysis ..
because I sort of just checked the syllabus.. couldnt find anything in it .. but its in my book .. n well its a cambridge one =S ..and though i know there are loadsa stuff in it which aint in the syllabus but i our teacher still tells us to study stuff to be on the safe side.. but i honestly dont have time to study all tht.. so pleaseee anyone tell me if they are iN!
not for chem but for physics.......so chill 8)
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Post by: crypsAnity on May 30, 2009, 01:53:09 pm
hmmm i was going through it.. but then you see there was this equation number of moles = charge passed/ Faradays Constant .. eee and there are loads calculations on em,.. so yeah betetr learn it .. ts not much i guess.. what say?
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Post by: nid404 on May 30, 2009, 01:56:44 pm
the very little physics that we have in chem is electrolysis and cells

don't bother with those heavy, befuddling calculations.......

By the way w8 textbook do u use??

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Post by: unknown 101 on May 30, 2009, 01:59:34 pm
i have a question, it may sound retarded but i waanna know if ppl actually know the answer

wat is the pH of ammonia?
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Post by: godfather93 on May 30, 2009, 02:08:10 pm
ph 10 - 12
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 30, 2009, 02:09:28 pm
yeah its approximetley 10
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Post by: godfather93 on May 30, 2009, 02:12:47 pm
ok, here's a question from me: how do you make soda lime glass? (no looking at the book! ;))
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Post by: Kim on May 30, 2009, 02:14:01 pm
hey guys wassup?
ok i hav a few questions
1-how does the structure of metal explain why it is malleable?

2-suggest an explanation why exposure  to atmospheric pollution changes basic lead (11)carbonate into lead(11)sulphate

3-ethanol can be made from starch.this can be broken down by enzymes to simple sugars with formulae of the type shown
ho-(box)-oh
what other method changes starch into simple sugar?
sum1 help me
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 30, 2009, 02:17:19 pm
ok, here's a question from me: how do you make soda lime glass? (no looking at the book! ;))

hahaha, wats soda lime glass, i know hot to make glass, but not soda lime glass!!!!!!!!!!!
for glass: add limestone, sand and soda (if thats wat u mean by soda lime glass) to a very hot furnace
the materials react together, and form a hot liquid, and then the liquid is removed and shaped into many different products
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Post by: nid404 on May 30, 2009, 02:19:24 pm
ok, here's a question from me: how do you make soda lime glass? (no looking at the book! ;))

take a glass and fill it with soda lime. it's refreshing
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Post by: Kim on May 30, 2009, 02:20:46 pm
ok, here's a question from me: how do you make soda lime glass? (no looking at the book! ;))

haha dude i jus read your quote stop giviv me a heart attack i thought their was sumthin i havent studied and please sum1 answer my doubt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 30, 2009, 02:21:50 pm
hey guys wassup?
ok i hav a few questions
1-how does the structure of metal explain why it is malleable?

2-suggest an explanation why exposure  to atmospheric pollution changes basic lead (11)carbonate into lead(11)sulphate

3-ethanol can be made from starch.this can be broken down by enzymes to simple sugars with formulae of the type shown
ho-(box)-oh
what other method changes starch into simple sugar?
sum1 help me

1) cuz when force is applied, the ion layers slip, but the delocalized electrons move into new positions preventing shattering
2)because atmospheric pollution may contain sulphuris acid( in acid rain) which reacts with the lead(II) carbonate forming
lead(II) sulphate + water + carbon dioxide
3)by acid hydrolysis ( boiling the starch with acid)
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Post by: crypsAnity on May 30, 2009, 02:22:55 pm
@ nid

Chemistry by Richard Harwood .. umm those typical books by cambridge??
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Post by: crypsAnity on May 30, 2009, 02:24:21 pm
yeah and ts k.. im not worrying much.. hehe i love chemmmm!! lol .. shouldnt say much .. may God help me revise well.. lol
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Post by: nid404 on May 30, 2009, 02:25:07 pm
hey guys wassup?
ok i hav a few questions
1-how does the structure of metal explain why it is malleable?

2-suggest an explanation why exposure  to atmospheric pollution changes basic lead (11)carbonate into lead(11)sulphate

3-ethanol can be made from starch.this can be broken down by enzymes to simple sugars with formulae of the type shown
ho-(box)-oh
what other method changes starch into simple sugar?
sum1 help me


1.force between particles is strong but non-directional. The layers in the metal can slip and new bonds can form, which is why they r malleable.
2.i think it's a simple reaction between the two. sulphate displaces the carbonate
3.acid hydrolysis of starch
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Post by: thukon on May 30, 2009, 02:32:26 pm
@ nid. Thanks.

I have another question. It says simple sugars are shown by HO-[  ]-OH. So are they diols? And does this mean that all diols are simple sugars? Or does it mean that all simple sugars are diols?
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Post by: Kim on May 30, 2009, 02:34:15 pm
hey guys wassup?
ok i hav a few questions
1-how does the structure of metal explain why it is malleable?

2-suggest an explanation why exposure  to atmospheric pollution changes basic lead (11)carbonate into lead(11)sulphate

3-ethanol can be made from starch.this can be broken down by enzymes to simple sugars with formulae of the type shown
ho-(box)-oh
what other method changes starch into simple sugar?
sum1 help me

1) cuz when force is applied, the ion layers slip, but the delocalized electrons move into new positions preventing shattering
2)because atmospheric pollution may contain sulphuris acid( in acid rain) which reacts with the lead(II) carbonate forming
lead(II) sulphate + water + carbon dioxide
3)by acid hydrolysis ( boiling the starch with acid)
i cannot thank you both enogh u too NID404!!!!!!!!
i dunno wat i would haver don't withoiut this site!!!!!!!!!!!!!
again thank you :) ;) :D ;D ::) :-*
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Post by: nid404 on May 30, 2009, 02:36:46 pm
A diol or glycol is a chemical compound containing two hydroxyl groups (-OH groups)

so sugar is a diole but all dioles are not sugars. I hope u get it
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Post by: godfather93 on May 30, 2009, 02:38:29 pm
ok, here's a question from me: how do you make soda lime glass? (no looking at the book! ;))

hahaha, wats soda lime glass, i know hot to make glass, but not soda lime glass!!!!!!!!!!!
for glass: add limestone, sand and soda (if thats wat u mean by soda lime glass) to a very hot furnace
the materials react together, and form a hot liquid, and then the liquid is removed and shaped into many different products

soda lime glass is made by reacting limestone, sand and sodium carbonate together with the glass to be recycled at 1500oC.
your answers was pretty close.

@nid - yeah, it's the time to sit back and enjoy some soda pop!
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Post by: nid404 on May 30, 2009, 02:45:09 pm
ok, here's a question from me: how do you make soda lime glass? (no looking at the book! ;))

hahaha, wats soda lime glass, i know hot to make glass, but not soda lime glass!!!!!!!!!!!
for glass: add limestone, sand and soda (if thats wat u mean by soda lime glass) to a very hot furnace
the materials react together, and form a hot liquid, and then the liquid is removed and shaped into many different products

soda lime glass is made by reacting limestone, sand and sodium carbonate together with the glass to be recycled at 1500oC.
your answers was pretty close.

@nid - yeah, it's the time to sit back and enjoy some soda pop!

right. guys uve gotta relax.
chalo ive gotta go and make me fresh lime soda. this heat's killing me. My AC too cannot beat the heat but im sure the fresh lime will help cool my body. ;)

buy guys
 
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Post by: Kim on May 30, 2009, 02:47:44 pm
hey u guyz know those questions where they give the boiling points of sum alkanes and then ask to predict the boiling pt of one of them
how do u dat?
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Post by: thukon on May 30, 2009, 02:51:06 pm
@ kim. just take the average in a kind of way. If u know what i mean.

@ nid. Thanks a lot. I guess u logged off but ill ask anyway so anyone can reply. All simple sugars are called glycols? And do complex sugars like starch have any special names? or can i call them polymers?
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 30, 2009, 02:56:17 pm
@ kim. just take the average in a kind of way. If u know what i mean.

@ nid. Thanks a lot. I guess u logged off but ill ask anyway so anyone can reply. All simple sugars are called glycols? And do complex sugars like starch have any special names? or can i call them polymers?

complex sugars like starch are usually called polysaccharides
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Post by: godfather93 on May 30, 2009, 03:01:37 pm
hey u guyz know those questions where they give the boiling points of sum alkanes and then ask to predict the boiling pt of one of them
how do u dat?

@ kim - to find the boiling point there r 2 cases -
1) they give u graph to draw and u have to predict the boiling point - in that case u have to continue the graph line in the same trend and read the value on the graph (known as extrapolation)
2) they give u table and tell u to predict the boiling point - then 4 sure there will be some linear trend shown by the boiling points given in the table.
hope u understand

@thukon - simple sugars like glucose and sucrose are called monosaccharides
               maltose and fructose are "bigger" molecules known as disaccharides
               starch and cellulose are complex molecules known as polysaccharides
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Post by: Nanavel on May 30, 2009, 03:04:16 pm
Questions :

1) wha are the 2 uses of the 5 halogen atoms ??
2) explain by giving its structure why diamond is so hard ?? [4]
3) explain the structure of Diamond ??
4) describe the structure of germanium ?
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 30, 2009, 03:06:24 pm
hey u guyz know those questions where they give the boiling points of sum alkanes and then ask to predict the boiling pt of one of them
how do u dat?

@ kim - to find the boiling point there r 2 cases -
1) they give u graph to draw and u have to predict the boiling point - in that case u have to continue the graph line in the same trend and read the value on the graph (known as extrapolation)
2) they give u table and tell u to predict the boiling point - then 4 sure there will be some linear trend shown by the boiling points given in the table.
hope u understand

@thukon - simple sugars like glucose and sucrose are called monosaccharides
               maltose and fructose are "bigger" molecules known as disaccharides
               starch and cellulose are complex molecules known as polysaccharides


or they sometimes give u a table that has the boiling points, in that case u do second orgnic substance- first, third - 2nd , u see how much the difference is and if its constant, then u add the constant to the previous substance, if its not just do any reasonable prediction
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 30, 2009, 03:09:23 pm
Questions :

1) wha are the 2 uses of the 5 halogen atoms ??
2) explain by giving its structure why diamond is so hard ?? [4]
3) explain the structure of Diamond ??
4) describe the structure of germanium ?
1) used to make PVC (chlorine) , used in toothpaste(flourine)
2) because each carbon atom is covalentley bonded to 4 other carbons forming a tetrahedral giant macromolecule
3) same as 2
4) same as carbon ( but the answer depends on the question)
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Post by: godfather93 on May 30, 2009, 03:10:19 pm
the 2 uses of the 5 halogen atoms - that's a strange question. sorry, dunno the answer

diamond is so hard because the atoms are tightly held together in a tetrahedral structure. the inter molecular forces (van der waal's forces) is very very strong, hence it is so hard and rigid. the atoms are not arranged in layers, so it cannot slip over each other.

the structure of germanium is very similar to that of carbon (tetrahedral)
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 30, 2009, 03:13:38 pm
the 2 uses of the 5 halogen atoms - that's a strange question. sorry, dunno the answer

diamond is so hard because the atoms are tightly held together in a tetrahedral structure. the inter molecular forces (van der waal's forces) is very very strong, hence it is so hard and rigid. the atoms are not arranged in layers, so it cannot slip over each other.

the structure of germanium is very similar to that of carbon (tetrahedral)

the structure of germanium is similar to that of carbon, but it depends on the context of the question, right?
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Post by: Nanavel on May 30, 2009, 03:17:57 pm
ehhh ..

what about silicon does it has anything to do with Diamond ??

in question 1 >> i mean to say that Give 2 uses for each halogon atom ?  like : a question came in the year 1996 that give 2 uses of Bromine and Iodine ?

so it thought it is better to know 2 uses for each halogen atoms .
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Post by: unknown 101 on May 30, 2009, 03:21:13 pm
ehhh ..

what about silicon does it has anything to do with Diamond ??

in question 1 >> i mean to say that Give 2 uses for each halogon atom ?  like : a question came in the year 1996 that give 2 uses of Bromine and Iodine ?

so it thought it is better to know 2 uses for each halogen atoms .

you dont have to know 2 uses for each halogen

and for silicon its usually in the from silicon dioxide(silica)
then u have to say, each silicon atom is covalentley bonded to four oxygen atoms, forming a tetrahedral giant macromolecule
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Post by: godfather93 on May 30, 2009, 03:22:11 pm
germanium is a metalloid and a semiconductor. it has a similar sturcture as that of silicon and it's bonding structure is tetrahedral like carbon.
only when germanium is heated that the electrons of the germanium atoms can become delocalised. but in this case nothing about heat being applied is being said.
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Post by: Shogun on May 30, 2009, 03:23:37 pm
Questions :

1) wha are the 2 uses of the 5 halogen atoms ??
2) explain by giving its structure why diamond is so hard ?? [4]
3) explain the structure of Diamond ??
4) describe the structure of germanium ?



alright; use of chlorine: uised to make PVC, used in making hose hold beach
          use of bromine, used in photography, used to make medicine
          use in flourine: used to make toothpste, used to add in water for dental care
          use idoine, used in the treatment of thyroid gland, used to make medicine
          use os astatine, we dont have uses to learn in syllabus, but is used in making medicine, and is used to treat thyroid gland.

2) each carbon atom is held in its place by 4 strong covalent bonds. so diamond is very hard and can be used as jewelry or in drilling or cutting equipment.

3)diamond is tetrahedron in shape. and 4 carbon atoms is covalently bonded with 4 other carbon atom.

4)germanium would have the same structure as carbon and silicon, which would be tetrahedron,
so yes godfather what u said abou germanium is correct, and lil wayne this answer is correct.

and silicon has the same structure and properties as diamond, except the hardness property.
hope this helped nanavil. any othe questions u have plz do ask me ;D
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Post by: SGVaibhav on May 30, 2009, 03:28:44 pm
Sulphur reacts violently with magnesium to form the ionic compound magnesium
sulphide. Draw a diagram that shows the arrangement of the valency electrons in this
compound.
Use O to represent an electron from a magnesium atom.
Use X to represent an electron from a sulphur atom. [3]


Please do this
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Post by: Phosu on May 30, 2009, 03:31:43 pm
could someone plz send me the marking schemes from june 1997 to nov 2000
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: Shogun on May 30, 2009, 03:32:34 pm
Sulphur reacts violently with magnesium to form the ionic compound magnesium
sulphide. Draw a diagram that shows the arrangement of the valency electrons in this
compound.
Use O to represent an electron from a magnesium atom.
Use X to represent an electron from a sulphur atom. [3]


Please do this


ill draw this in paint and give it to u..
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on May 30, 2009, 03:37:54 pm
plz find it attached

Mg ? Mg2+ + 2 e-
S + 2e- ? S2-[
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: tnzgurl on May 30, 2009, 03:43:06 pm
can someone help me understand the difference between evaporation and crystallization? and when you would use each one ?
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: Shogun on May 30, 2009, 03:44:30 pm

its ionic bonding

and it should Mg+2 not -2
sorry it was a mistake.
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Post by: Nanavel on May 30, 2009, 03:47:48 pm
how do you know what is the suitable reagents for certain reactions ??

If they ask me do describe the structure of Diamond >>> I can either say :   " It has tetrahydral shap with four carbon atoms convalently bonded to other four carbon forming a gaint marcomolecular shap "
                                                                                                                                                                                          OR
                                                                                                     " It has tetrahydral structure with four oxygen atoms covalently bonded with a single atom of Silion forming a gaint marcomolecular shap "

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Post by: Shogun on May 30, 2009, 03:49:13 pm
can someone help me understand the difference between evaporation and crystallization? and when you would use each one ?

evaoration is heating water and changin it to gas, crystallysation is when u evaporate until crystallisation poin(when crystals starts to form) then cool slowly.
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on May 30, 2009, 03:50:41 pm
evaporation - a process occuring at the surface if a liquid invloving the change of state if a kiquid into vapour
at a temperature below the boiling point

crystallisation - salt is obtained from sea water on vast scale through crystallisation, this is done by using the heat of the sun to evaporate the water to leave a saturated solution of salt. after saturation, the salt begins to crystallise. it is actually heating followed by quick cooling.
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Post by: Shogun on May 30, 2009, 03:54:32 pm
how do you know what is the suitable reagents for certain reactions ??

If they ask me do describe the structure of Diamond >>> I can either say :   " It has tetrahydral shap with four carbon atoms convalently bonded to other four carbon forming a gaint marcomolecular shap "
                                                                                                                                                                                          OR
                                                                                                     " It has tetrahydral structure with four oxygen atoms covalently bonded with a single atom of Silion forming a gaint marcomolecular shap "



tht u have to mug up the reactions' reagent or use common sense, cuz its just impossible to tell which reagent to use or which reagent is for which reactions, in this post cuz thier are a million ef em and differnt type of it use different rreagents, so to solve tese problem, understand the concept of making salts and the concept of testing alcohols and alkenes and cations and anions, understand tht concept, for eg: how they from precipitate, why they change colour, etc. tht way u will know which reagent to use and when.

and the structure, use the first one, seems to be more acceptable and easy, appropriate.

oh yea evaporation can happen at any temperature at surface of liqiud, not as boiling point which occurs at a fixed temp called boiling point.
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Post by: Shogun on May 30, 2009, 03:55:29 pm
adi, how do i put pics on posts...
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on May 30, 2009, 03:59:44 pm
u gotta click on reply --> additional options--> attach --> choose file --  attach the image --> post
the image will also appear with the attachment
 :)
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Post by: SGVaibhav on May 30, 2009, 04:07:41 pm
plz find it attached

Mg ? Mg2+ + 2 e-
S + 2e- ? S2-[



THANKS A LOT
 yeaahhh
but i got one more question  ::)

Bromine reacts with phosphorus to form phosphorus tribromide.
Draw a diagram showing the arrangement of the valency electrons in one molecule of
this covalent compound. The electron distribution of bromine is:
2 + 8 + 18 + 7.
Use x to represent an electron from phosphorus.
Use o to represent an electron from bromine.

very ??? over here
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Post by: SGVaibhav on May 30, 2009, 04:08:11 pm
forgot to mention +rep
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Post by: Shogun on May 30, 2009, 04:09:18 pm
Thanks adi.

hey sgvaibhav  me 2 lol, no prob, just jokin
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Post by: SGVaibhav on May 30, 2009, 04:12:07 pm
yes
u too.
i know u were trying to upload but u were not able too. ....
thanks to you too.
+rep
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Post by: nid404 on May 30, 2009, 04:15:59 pm
exactly how examiners like it

Schematic diagram

Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: SGVaibhav on May 30, 2009, 04:18:21 pm
isnt it covalent?
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: nid404 on May 30, 2009, 04:22:31 pm
k here u go Pbr3

although ur drawing is right the examiners prefer electrons in pairs.

By the way sorry for MgCl2 it was sulphate....my brain so taxed
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Post by: Shogun on May 30, 2009, 04:23:41 pm
yup its covalent, srry for the delay cuz the site is slow
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on May 30, 2009, 04:25:30 pm
hey hii nid,,
ur brain is really messed up because its sulphide..not sulphate...

and thanks for the tip
will remember it for the exam..lol
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Post by: questions_of_game on May 30, 2009, 04:28:21 pm
help me

i am sgvaibhav

i banned myself
 ???

i was going to do it for 0.1 day, but i did it for 1 days.
 xD  help me  :-X
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Post by: nid404 on May 30, 2009, 04:28:29 pm
how did magnesium chloride come in the picture..

i think it was sulphide
anyway

the second question answer

visi the link and chk out "untitled1"

By the way adi i must correct u.....the shared electrons should be of each of the elements and not on the lines, in the space between them.

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Post by: nid404 on May 30, 2009, 04:32:21 pm
hey hii nid,,
ur brain is really messed up because its sulphide..not sulphate...

and thanks for the tip
will remember it for the exam..lol


yeah right S2-.......just zipped past and thought of it as SO42-
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on May 30, 2009, 04:40:02 pm
thanks 1ce again...i deleted the image..

hey vaibhav .. ask a moderator to unban u ..

lol...this is funny..
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Post by: questions_of_game on May 30, 2009, 04:41:46 pm
which answer is correct? for the question i asked

i will downloaded that pic


it is funny, i was just trying   [experimenting in chemistry terms]
the worry is less because i am only banned for one day
but the worry is big now because i am using internet explorer.
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Post by: nid404 on May 30, 2009, 04:43:30 pm
help me

i am sgvaibhav

i banned myself
 ???

i was going to do it for 0.1 day, but i did it for 1 days.
 xD  help me  :-X

wow u can actually do that

and the diagram...shogun's and mine is correct
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on May 30, 2009, 04:46:06 pm
shogun's and nid's is correct

mine is so completely incorrecttt!!!!..

i may not even earn a mark for that utter nonsense i did..
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Post by: Nanavel on May 30, 2009, 04:55:52 pm
1) thallium(1)hydroxide has a similar chemical property to sodium hydroxide .

   i) Given 0.1mol/dm^3 solution of thallium(1)hydroxide and of ammonia , describe how you could show that thallium(!) hydroxide is the stronger base .

     -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

     -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

     ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [3]

( i think we have to Add universal indicator .. but what the heck .. four lines !! I tihnk we have to write about thier colours changes and PH . I dont know
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: questions_of_game on May 30, 2009, 04:57:51 pm
shogun, next time save ur file as png format or gif format
and nid, i want to know how u wrote the P?
if u paint it red, it looks like blood smeared.
best effects for a horror filmm



thanks nid and shogun for help
i would have done +rep, but i cannot do from this account.
the buttons do no exist only
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Post by: nid404 on May 30, 2009, 05:04:11 pm
1) thallium(1)hydroxide has a similar chemical property to sodium hydroxide .

   i) Given 0.1mol/dm^3 solution of thallium(1)hydroxide and of ammonia , describe how you could show that thallium(!) hydroxide is the stronger base .

     -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

     -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

     ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [3]

( i think we have to Add universal indicator .. but what the heck .. four lines !! I tihnk we have to write about thier colours changes and PH . I dont know

At the same concentration the stronger base has a higher pH.(check with indicator)
At the same concentration the stronger base has a better conductor of electricity.
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: SGVaibhav on May 30, 2009, 05:06:49 pm
i am back xD
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on May 30, 2009, 05:15:18 pm
welcome back xD
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: Shogun on May 30, 2009, 05:18:03 pm
1) thallium(1)hydroxide has a similar chemical property to sodium hydroxide .

   i) Given 0.1mol/dm^3 solution of thallium(1)hydroxide and of ammonia , describe how you could show that thallium(!) hydroxide is the stronger base .

     -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

     -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

     ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [3]

( i think we have to Add universal indicator .. but what the heck .. four lines !! I tihnk we have to write about thier colours changes and PH . I dont know

At the same concentration the stronger base has a higher pH.(check with indicator)
At the same concentration the stronger base has a better conductor of electricity.

just write what the ph should be like, it should be like above 7 and between 11 t0 14 and do this by checking with indicator.

and sure thing, question of game.
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: MaNa on May 30, 2009, 05:52:10 pm
hey,
umm can some clearify my doubts:)
1)
Q)descirbe the polltuion prblems caused by the disposal of polymer in ther landfills sites n by buring?
2)(c) Each tablet contains the same number of moles of CaCO3 and MgCO3. One tablet
reacted with excess hydrochloric acid to produce 0.24 dm3 of carbon dioxide at r.t.p.
CaCO3 + 2HCl ? CaCl2 + CO2 + H2O
MgCO3 + 2HCl ? MgCl2 + CO2 + H2O
(i) Calculate how many moles of CaCO3 there are in one tablet.
number of moles CO2 = ..............(0.01)
number of moles of CaCO3 and MgCO3 = ..............(0.01)
number of moles of CaCO3 = ..............(0.01)

(ii) Calculate the volume of hydrochloric acid, 1.0 mol /dm3, needed to react with one
tablet.
number of moles of CaCO3 and MgCO3 in one tablet = ..............(0.02)
Use your answer to (c)(i).
number of moles of HCl needed to react with one tablet = ..............(0.02)
volume of hydrochloric acid, 1.0 mol /dm3, needed to
react with one tablet ..............(0.02)
he brackets are my anser cans ome one help?:)
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Post by: crypsAnity on May 30, 2009, 06:00:50 pm
hey ManaH .. okay .. im just anssering ur first one.. because the rest needs calculation and im too lazy to do that!

Disposal of polymers in their landfill sites.. as they are non-biodegradable .. first takes up space .. causes sight pollution ...
and burning it leads to emission of harmful oxides such as oxides of nitrogen .. or carbon monoxide.. which are both harmful ..
(as nitrogen monoxide leads to ozone formation in the lower hemisphere .. guess.. thts wht its called and well carbon monoxide
is a poisonous gas .. harmful for health.. ) and lastly mht also lead to global warming.. as increases emission of carbondioxide into the atmosphere..imbalancing the carbon cycle..
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: MaNa on May 30, 2009, 06:04:07 pm
hey ManaH .. okay .. im just anssering ur first one.. because the rest needs calculation and im too lazy to do that!

Disposal of polymers in their landfill sites.. as they are non-biodegradable .. first takes up space .. causes sight pollution ...
and burning it leads to emission of harmful oxides such as oxides of nitrogen .. or carbon monoxide.. which are both harmful ..
(as nitrogen monoxide leads to ozone formation in the lower hemisphere .. guess.. thts wht its called and well carbon monoxide
is a poisonous gas .. harmful for health.. ) and lastly mht also lead to global warming.. as increases emission of carbondioxide into the atmosphere..imbalancing the carbon cycle..

oohkay
Thanx alot
umm + rep for u :)
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Post by: nid404 on May 30, 2009, 06:07:28 pm
hey,
umm can some clearify my doubts:)
1)
Q)descirbe the polltuion prblems caused by the disposal of polymer in ther landfills sites n by buring?
2)(c) Each tablet contains the same number of moles of CaCO3 and MgCO3. One tablet
reacted with excess hydrochloric acid to produce 0.24 dm3 of carbon dioxide at r.t.p.
CaCO3 + 2HCl ? CaCl2 + CO2 + H2O
MgCO3 + 2HCl ? MgCl2 + CO2 + H2O
(i) Calculate how many moles of CaCO3 there are in one tablet.
number of moles CO2 = ..............(0.01)
number of moles of CaCO3 and MgCO3 = ..............(0.01)
number of moles of CaCO3 = ..............(0.01)

(ii) Calculate the volume of hydrochloric acid, 1.0 mol /dm3, needed to react with one
tablet.
number of moles of CaCO3 and MgCO3 in one tablet = ..............(0.02)
Use your answer to (c)(i).
number of moles of HCl needed to react with one tablet = ..............(0.02)
volume of hydrochloric acid, 1.0 mol /dm3, needed to
react with one tablet ..............(0.02)
he brackets are my anser cans ome one help?:)

1. in landfill sites they cause visible pollution and burning releases toxic gases. remember to write toxic or poisonous not harmful
2.i)correct
ii)correct
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: a7medokool on May 30, 2009, 06:10:52 pm
Guys could u help on moles Q nov 2000 Question 1
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: MaNa on May 30, 2009, 06:22:28 pm
hey,
umm can some clearify my doubts:)
1)
Q)descirbe the polltuion prblems caused by the disposal of polymer in ther landfills sites n by buring?
2)(c) Each tablet contains the same number of moles of CaCO3 and MgCO3. One tablet
reacted with excess hydrochloric acid to produce 0.24 dm3 of carbon dioxide at r.t.p.
CaCO3 + 2HCl ? CaCl2 + CO2 + H2O
MgCO3 + 2HCl ? MgCl2 + CO2 + H2O
(i) Calculate how many moles of CaCO3 there are in one tablet.
number of moles CO2 = ..............(0.01)
number of moles of CaCO3 and MgCO3 = ..............(0.01)
number of moles of CaCO3 = ..............(0.01)

(ii) Calculate the volume of hydrochloric acid, 1.0 mol /dm3, needed to react with one
tablet.
number of moles of CaCO3 and MgCO3 in one tablet = ..............(0.02)
Use your answer to (c)(i).
number of moles of HCl needed to react with one tablet = ..............(0.02)
volume of hydrochloric acid, 1.0 mol /dm3, needed to
react with one tablet ..............(0.02)
he brackets are my anser cans ome one help?:)

1. in landfill sites they cause visible pollution and burning releases toxic gases. remember to write toxic or poisonous not harmful
2.i)correct
ii)correct
Omg i am so proud of myslef i finally got stichromatery*dances arund the house*
about the harmful ya i know i read the xmainer comment sayin gits not harmful write
TOXIC/ Posioniustnx anyways:)
rep (+)
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Post by: ig_kid on May 30, 2009, 06:33:08 pm
I think that these are the answers but im not sure:

nov 2000 Q1)
d)  0.167 mol
     1.6 mol
     0.267 mol
     15.03g
     79.8%
I hope this helps ;)
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Post by: nid404 on May 30, 2009, 06:40:53 pm
I think that these are the answers but im not sure:

nov 2000 Q1)
d)  0.167 mol
     1.6 mol
     0.267 mol
     15.03g
     79.8%
I hope this helps ;)

yup that's right......i answered june 2000 earlier.....so tired
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: godfather93 on May 30, 2009, 07:39:41 pm
what is stochiochemitry or something like that?
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: islu_jf on May 30, 2009, 07:57:51 pm
how can u calculate the mass of one mole of C8 alcohol. ???????
plz help
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: SGVaibhav on May 30, 2009, 08:00:28 pm
HELP REQUIRED EXPERT PEOPLE!

Please solve Question 5 of  Chem P3      May/June 2002.
No guesses please, because we cannot find a relevant markscheme.
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: godfather93 on May 30, 2009, 08:07:47 pm
liquids do not fill up the container because there are weak attractions between the molecules that prevent the molecules from escaping. the particles do not have enough kinetic energy to break these inter molecular forces. whereas a gas fills up the container because there is virtually no attraction between the particles, so they can move in any direction they want. gases show the property of diffusion.
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: ig_kid on May 30, 2009, 08:11:49 pm
what is stochiochemitry or something like that?
Stochiochemitry is something that has to do with moles.
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: crypsAnity on May 30, 2009, 08:17:52 pm
hey,
umm can some clearify my doubts:)
1)
Q)descirbe the polltuion prblems caused by the disposal of polymer in ther landfills sites n by buring?
2)(c) Each tablet contains the same number of moles of CaCO3 and MgCO3. One tablet
reacted with excess hydrochloric acid to produce 0.24 dm3 of carbon dioxide at r.t.p.
CaCO3 + 2HCl ? CaCl2 + CO2 + H2O
MgCO3 + 2HCl ? MgCl2 + CO2 + H2O
(i) Calculate how many moles of CaCO3 there are in one tablet.
number of moles CO2 = ..............(0.01)
number of moles of CaCO3 and MgCO3 = ..............(0.01)
number of moles of CaCO3 = ..............(0.01)

(ii) Calculate the volume of hydrochloric acid, 1.0 mol /dm3, needed to react with one
tablet.
number of moles of CaCO3 and MgCO3 in one tablet = ..............(0.02)
Use your answer to (c)(i).
number of moles of HCl needed to react with one tablet = ..............(0.02)
volume of hydrochloric acid, 1.0 mol /dm3, needed to
react with one tablet ..............(0.02)
he brackets are my anser cans ome one help?:)

1. in landfill sites they cause visible pollution and burning releases toxic gases. remember to write toxic or poisonous not harmful
2.i)correct
ii)correct

eeee... toxic for real? .. dang it.. n thot i was a chem genius lol .. ahaha ..
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: SGVaibhav on May 30, 2009, 08:19:56 pm
PLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTION ASKED UP, AS IF YOU ARE WRITING MODEL ANSWERS BY CIE.
Thanks

And yeah, i found the best way to write ionic bond [found from model answers]
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: islu_jf on May 30, 2009, 08:21:05 pm
how can u calculate the mass of one mole of C8 alcohol. Huh?Huh??
plz help
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Post by: godfather93 on May 30, 2009, 08:28:14 pm
how can u calculate the mass of one mole of C8 alcohol. Huh?Huh??
plz help

the formula of C8 alcohol is C8H17OH
the molar mass is (12x8)+(17x1)+16+1 = 130
the no of moles is 1
the mass is no. of moles x molar mass = 130g
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Post by: islu_jf on May 30, 2009, 08:51:05 pm
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh  :D
tanx. + rep.
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Post by: emi on May 30, 2009, 08:58:31 pm
can some one please solve paper3  O/N 2002 Q1 part (iv)  ??  please and state how u did it ?

and also the same year paper 3 Q3 part (f) all parts  and explain how u did it ??? please
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Post by: evilzurg307 on May 30, 2009, 08:59:28 pm
Can any one make a mnemonic for the reactivity series containing:
K
Na
Ca
Mg
Al
C
Zn
Fe
Pb
H
Cu
Hg
Ag
Pt
Au

If you already know one please tell im having a lot of difficulty remembering this one.

I cant memorize the action of heat on Hydroxides, Nitrates and Carbonates too.

Im not really the mug up type lol
Please help!
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: evilzurg307 on May 30, 2009, 09:07:17 pm

Omg i am so proud of myslef i finally got stichromatery*dances arund the house*
about the harmful ya i know i read the xmainer comment sayin gits not harmful write
TOXIC/ Posioniustnx anyways:)
rep (+)

Even I did that when i got the concept of stoichiometry
lol
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: SGVaibhav on May 30, 2009, 09:10:39 pm
Quote
HELP REQUIRED EXPERT PEOPLE!

Please solve Question 5 of  Chem P3      May/June 2002.
No guesses please, because we cannot find a relevant markscheme.
Quote
PLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTION ASKED UP, AS IF YOU ARE WRITING MODEL ANSWERS BY CIE.
Thanks

Waiting....
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Post by: SGVaibhav on May 30, 2009, 09:11:24 pm
i did almost 66 posts today
 too much
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Post by: ig_kid on May 30, 2009, 09:12:06 pm
HELP REQUIRED EXPERT PEOPLE!

Please solve Question 5 of  Chem P3      May/June 2002.
No guesses please, because we cannot find a relevant markscheme.

5) a-The gas particles hv more energy and move farther apart and move faster so they don't stay next to each other. The liquid particles have less energy and move less so they stay next to each other but the particles are still moving

b-i)gas volume and ratio of gas in air
   ii)Carbon dioxide, because it is less dense than sulpher dioxide and has a lower Mr. It also has a higher ratio in air.

c-i)110cm3
   ii)14.4cm3
   ii)54.4cm3

d- 9/54=0.167mol
    0.5mol
    0.5*18= 9g
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: ig_kid on May 30, 2009, 09:21:27 pm
Can any one make a mnemonic for the reactivity series containing:
K
Na
Ca
Mg
Al
C
Zn
Fe
Pb
H
Cu
Hg
Ag
Pt
Au

If you already know one please tell im having a lot of difficulty remembering this one.

I cant memorize the action of heat on Hydroxides, Nitrates and Carbonates too.

Im not really the mug up type lol
Please help!


Polite - Potassium
Spotted - Sodium
Leopard - Lithium
Can - Calcium
Meet - Magnesium
Affectionate - Aluminium
Zebra - Zinc
Into - Iron
Tender - Tin
Loving - Lead
Care. - Copper
Single - Silver
Girls, - Gold
Please. - Platinum


Anion Reactivity series:
Someone - sulphate
nice - nitrate
cleans - chloride
broken - bromide
items - iodide
only. - Hydroxide

For crude oil fraction:
Please - petroleum gases
never - naptha
kill - kerosene
dolphines - deisel oil
living - lubricating oil
bravely - bitumen


Note: this was copied from user 12345abc
nyways I hope this will help..... ;) :) :)
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Post by: Q80BOY on May 30, 2009, 09:25:24 pm
Quote
HELP REQUIRED EXPERT PEOPLE!

Please solve Question 5 of  Chem P3      May/June 2002.
No guesses please, because we cannot find a relevant markscheme.
Quote
PLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTION ASKED UP, AS IF YOU ARE WRITING MODEL ANSWERS BY CIE.
Thanks

Waiting....

Q5.

(a) In a liquid, the particles are close together, the intermolecular forces will not allow them to move
apart. They can move in the volume of the liquid to take up the shape of the container. In a gas,
the forces are much weaker and the particles can move apart in all directions to fill the container.

(b) (i) Volume and time were the only options, “amount”, although common was not accepted.

     (ii) Carbon dioxide scored highly as the gas that would diffuse the faster but the explanation often
involved “lighter” or “smaller” or “lower mass” rather than density, relative molecular mass or speed
of molecules.

(c) (i) 110cm3
being 2:11 therefore 20:110

(ii) 80 cm

from 2:8 therefore 20:80

(iii) 120 cm

must be 150 –110 + 80

(d) moles of butyne = 1/6

     moles of water = 1/2

     mass of water = 9 g

hope this helps  ;)
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Post by: ig_kid on May 30, 2009, 09:26:45 pm
Cation reactivity series:
Please-K
sent-Na
cats-Ca
monkeys-Mg
and-Al
zebras-Zn
in-Fe
large-Pb
hired-H
cages.-Cu
Make-Hg
sure-Ag
padlocked.-Pt

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Post by: emi on May 30, 2009, 09:31:45 pm
some one please help !!!

can some one please solve paper3  O/N 2002 Q1 part (iv)  ?  please and state how u did it ?

and also the same year paper 3 Q3 part (f) all parts  and explain how u did it ? please
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Post by: reishamix on May 30, 2009, 09:38:42 pm
Can any one make a mnemonic for the reactivity series containing:
K
Na
Ca
Mg
Al
C
Zn
Fe
Pb
H
Cu
Hg
Ag
Pt
Au

If you already know one please tell im having a lot of difficulty remembering this one.

I cant memorize the action of heat on Hydroxides, Nitrates and Carbonates too.

Im not really the mug up type lol
Please help!

Kaptn Charlie MAZINTL Caught Me Stealing Gold Plates
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Post by: reishamix on May 30, 2009, 09:40:52 pm
some one please help !!!

can some one please solve paper3  O/N 2002 Q1 part (iv)  ?  please and state how u did it ?

and also the same year paper 3 Q3 part (f) all parts  and explain how u did it ? please

dude
question 1)a) only has like 3 parts
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Post by: Bani on May 30, 2009, 09:45:35 pm
some one please help !!!

can some one please solve paper3  O/N 2002 Q1 part (iv)  ?  please and state how u did it ?

and also the same year paper 3 Q3 part (f) all parts  and explain how u did it ? please

dude
question 1)a) only has like 3 parts

Q1c) has a iv) part. Emi, did you mean 1c)iv)?
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Post by: Bani on May 30, 2009, 09:54:26 pm
Anyways, if it is Q1c)iv), then herez how to do it:
                    First, remember that the mole ratio remains constant in a reaction (as in, for a 1:1 the no. of moles will be the same and for 1:2 you would twice the moles for the one with ratio 1 to calculate the moles for the one with ratio2 )
                     So, first find out the no.of moles of CuSO4.5H20.   5/250=0.02 moles
                     Then, find the Mr (molecular mass) of the black powder (CuO), which is 80.
                     Finally, using the equation Moles=Mass/Mr, find the mass. SO, multiply Moles (0.02) by Mr (80) which gives you 1.6g.
            I hope this helped. I'll move onto solving ur next question. :)
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Post by: godfather93 on May 30, 2009, 10:02:32 pm
where do u see the 4th part? ???
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Post by: MaNa on May 30, 2009, 10:04:59 pm
Guys if u need chemistry pass papers as in 1993-2003 or something do let me know i got the pass papers from Zara n if u need it ill forward it
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Post by: cactus_360 on May 30, 2009, 10:07:03 pm
plz......can i have them manah!!!!
my id:tascorp20@gmail.com
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Post by: Bani on May 30, 2009, 10:09:22 pm
some one please help !!!

can some one please solve paper3  O/N 2002 Q1 part (iv)  ?  please and state how u did it ?

and also the same year paper 3 Q3 part (f) all parts  and explain how u did it ? please

Ok, for part f), herez how you do it:
  i) No.Of Moles=Mass/Mr, so, 11.5g/23=0.5 moles
  ii) the mole ratio of Na to S is 2:1 So, to calculate the moles for Sulphur, divide the moles for Na, which is 0.5 by 2  =0.25 moles.
  iii)Mass of sulphur reacted=Moles*Mr, which is 0.25 moles *32 (Mr) = 8g
  iv) Mass of unreacted Sulphur would be the total mass of Sulphur used, which is 10g (given in the question) subtract the mass reacted which is 8g(we calculated in part iii. The answer would be 2g
    I hope this helped. Any confusion, please ask. :)
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Post by: MaNa on May 30, 2009, 10:10:35 pm
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my id:tascorp20@gmail.com
sure cheak ur inbox:)
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Post by: cactus_360 on May 30, 2009, 10:20:06 pm
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Post by: Naruto on May 30, 2009, 10:24:59 pm
@ Q8BOY
well the answer of the Jun 2002 Q5 (d) the mass of water formed is 27g that what i m getting, becoz the ratio was 1 : 3... so plzz do explain that how you got 9g...
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Post by: MaNa on May 30, 2009, 10:25:16 pm
thanx     u sent me 3 times!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!coooooooooooool
they are three different thing
mark scheme
etc:D
oi dont forget +rep:)
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Post by: MaNa on May 30, 2009, 10:26:42 pm
 i have one confusion
in electrolysis
the cation the most reactive stays in the solution or goes to the anode?
similary for the anions
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Post by: crypsAnity on May 30, 2009, 10:28:20 pm
the most reactive stays in the solutions .. for both of them .. =]

p.s just revised it an hour back.. hehe
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Post by: emi on May 30, 2009, 11:21:20 pm
thanks bani ,, you;r great !
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Post by: emi on May 30, 2009, 11:35:02 pm
2)
(c) Each tablet contains the same number of moles of CaCO3 and MgCO3. One tablet
reacted with excess hydrochloric acid to produce 0.24 dm3 of carbon dioxide at r.t.p.
CaCO3 + 2HCl ----> CaCl2 + CO2 + H2O
MgCO3 + 2HCl ----> MgCl2 + CO2 + H2O
(i) Calculate how many moles of CaCO3 there are in one tablet.
number of moles CO2 = ..............    ( i got this one  0.24/24 = 0.01 )
number of moles of CaCO3 and MgCO3 = ..............  ( how do i get this  one ? is it just by common sense or is there formula ?)
number of moles of CaCO3 = ..............  ( and wat formula we used to get this one ? )

(ii) Calculate the volume of hydrochloric acid, 1.0 mol /dm3, needed to react with one
tablet.
number of moles of CaCO3 and MgCO3 in one tablet = .............. ( i got this one because its says from c i )
Use your answer to (c)(i).
number of moles of HCl needed to react with one tablet = .............. ( how do i get this one ?  why is is 0.02)
volume of hydrochloric acid, 1.0 mol /dm3, needed to
react with one tablet ..............



some one help me please ?
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Post by: ramezamgad on May 31, 2009, 12:27:38 am
emi
0.01 moles of CO2 were produced from the total reaction
the tablet has the same no. of moles of CaCO3 and MgCO3
so the no. of moles of CaCO3 and MgCO3 is 0.01 moles also
the no. of moles of CaCO3 only is 0.01/2 = 0.005

moles of HCl=0.01x4
no.=V x C
0.04=V x 1
V=0.04 dm3=40cm3
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Post by: emi on May 31, 2009, 03:46:29 am
can some one give me mark scheme for November 2003 paper3 ?  the one on Free exam paper is totally unrelated
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Post by: astarmathsandchemistry on May 31, 2009, 05:02:01 am
can some one give me mark scheme for November 2003 paper3 ?  the one on Free exam paper is totally unrelated
there u go :D
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Post by: aquarian93 on May 31, 2009, 05:51:23 am
u guys,
for exothermic: we say the temp increases
and endothermic: the temp decreases

rite?

so this is abt the surrounding and not the reagent?

pls help!
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Post by: thukon on May 31, 2009, 05:54:13 am
A classmate told me a good mnemonic for the reactivity series, but it goes by the first letter of the element
Please- Potassium
Send- Sodium
Lord- Lithium
Charles- Calcium
McClain- Magnesium
A- Aluminium
Zebra- Zinc
If- Iron
The- Tin
Lame- Lead
Horse- Hydrogen
Cannot- Copper
Munch- Mercury
Sweet- Silver
Grass- Gold
No point in adding one for platinum, because it goes at the end anyway. Where does carbon go in this?

@aquarian. In exothermic, more heat is given out than taken in by the reaction. In endothermic, more heat is taken in than given out.
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Post by: THEIGBOY on May 31, 2009, 06:08:03 am
Guyz how do I make the structural Formula.....(i know the formulas themselves but not the structural formulas....
Tell me which one... and do tell me if ur sure or not....
I think we have to use number 2 but i'm not sure...

On the picture I drew....
1. Structural formula (lewis structure)
2. Also structural formula (different type) (text structure)
3. Skeletal formula
4. Chemical formula
1 & 2 both are structural formulas...
But in the exam when they ask for structural formula do i draw number 1 or number 2???
i.e. text structural formula or lewis structural formula????
Thanks in advance
THEIGBOY
By the way if there is need for any ppapers or marking schemes do tell me... i have most, if not all of them from 1999 onwards....AND
GOOD  BESTEST OF LUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!
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(i know there is no such word as "bestest" but still...)
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Post by: aquarian93 on May 31, 2009, 06:10:31 am
u guys,
for exothermic: we say the temp increases
and endothermic: the temp decreases

rite?

so this is abt the surrounding and not the reagent?

pls help!

u guys pls help!
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Post by: thukon on May 31, 2009, 06:11:54 am
@aquarian. I posted ur answer.

@igboy. I would draw the first 1. I dont think it matters, but the 1st one is more informative, so i prefer it. The second one is called condensed structural formula or something like that.
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Post by: THEIGBOY on May 31, 2009, 06:12:47 am
u guys,
for exothermic: we say the temp increases
and endothermic: the temp decreases

rite?

so this is abt the surrounding and not the reagent?

pls help!
When the reaction is endothermic.... The surroundings will cool down...e.g. the beaker may cool down....
When the reaction is exothermic..... the surrounding will heat up..... e.g. the beaker may heat up....
and yes...they are talking abt the surroundings....

@thukon ---->
Carbon comes after aluminium and before zinc...hope it helps
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Post by: THEIGBOY on May 31, 2009, 06:15:37 am
Guyz how do I make the structural Formula.....(i know the formulas themselves but not the structural formulas....
Tell me which one... and do tell me if ur sure or not....
I think we have to use number 2 but i'm not sure...

On the picture I drew....
1. Structural formula (lewis structure)
2. Also structural formula (different type) (text structure)
3. Skeletal formula
4. Chemical formula
1 & 2 both are structural formulas...
But in the exam when they ask for structural formula do i draw number 1 or number 2???
i.e. text structural formula or lewis structural formula????
Thanks in advance
THEIGBOY
By the way if there is need for any ppapers or marking schemes do tell me... i have most, if not all of them from 1999 onwards....AND
GOOD  BESTEST OF LUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!
[/shadow][/glow][/color][/font]
(i know there is no such word as "bestest" but still...)
thanks.
I was just confused in 1 & 2, i made the rest in case it helps sum1....
Number 2 is called text structural formula, number 1 is called Lewis Structural formula....just so every1 knows
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Post by: thukon on May 31, 2009, 06:59:16 am
ba da BUMP!!
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Post by: nid404 on May 31, 2009, 07:05:38 am
emi
0.01 moles of CO2 were produced from the total reaction
the tablet has the same no. of moles of CaCO3 and MgCO3
so the no. of moles of CaCO3 and MgCO3 is 0.01 moles also
the no. of moles of CaCO3 only is 0.01/2 = 0.005

moles of HCl=0.01x4
no.=V x C
0.04=V x 1
V=0.04 dm3=40cm3

i think uve mistaken
CaCO3+ 2HCl--->CaCl2+CO2+H2O
same with MgCO3
so ratio of metal carbonate to Carbon dioxide is the same(1:1) for each of the carbonates, so each one is 0.01mol
so if no of moles of CO2is 0.01 then no. of moles of CaCO3 is also 0.01
and
conc=mol/dm3
no of moles of HCl is 0.02 because mole ratio is 1:2(CaCO3+2HCl)
so if metal carbonate is 0.01, HCl is 0.01x2=0.02
1mol/dm3= 0.02/vol
volume=0.02/1
=0.02dm3or 20cm3
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Post by: cactus_360 on May 31, 2009, 07:08:42 am
nope nid ur wrong
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Post by: nid404 on May 31, 2009, 07:11:36 am
nope nid ur wrong

but how come. by the mole ratio this is how it is supposed to be. is there any additional info in this question.....which paper?
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Post by: SGVaibhav on May 31, 2009, 07:17:03 am
i am getting confused about the term structural formula

because in one question we have to draw the structural formula


so my answers was

NH2-NH2



In markscheme


H   H
|    |
N-  N
|    |
H   H
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Post by: nid404 on May 31, 2009, 07:18:55 am
emi
0.01 moles of CO2 were produced from the total reaction
the tablet has the same no. of moles of CaCO3 and MgCO3
so the no. of moles of CaCO3 and MgCO3 is 0.01 moles also
the no. of moles of CaCO3 only is 0.01/2 = 0.005

moles of HCl=0.01x4
no.=V x C
0.04=V x 1
V=0.04 dm3=40cm3

i think uve mistaken
CaCO3+ 2HCl--->CaCl2+CO2+H2O
same with MgCO3
so ratio of metal carbonate to Carbon dioxide is the same(1:1) for each of the carbonates, so each one is 0.01mol
so if no of moles of CO2is 0.01 then no. of moles of CaCO3 is also 0.01
and
conc=mol/dm3
no of moles of HCl is 0.02 because mole ratio is 1:2(CaCO3+2HCl)
so if metal carbonate is 0.01, HCl is 0.01x2=0.02
1mol/dm3= 0.02/vol
volume=0.02/1
=0.02dm3or 20cm3

ok.....so the no. of moles of CaCO3and MgCO3is the same...as in they are together in the tablet...my bad
yeah so the no of moles of the single metal carbonate=0.005mol
but rest of it is correct.....i'm sure ;)
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Post by: nid404 on May 31, 2009, 07:20:49 am
i am getting confused about the term structural formula

because in one question we have to draw the structural formula


so my answers was

NH2-NH2



In markscheme


H   H
|    |
N-  N
|    |
H   H

when they say drawu draw the structure. when they simply say give the structural formula u can either draw or write it(like the way u have). ive been doing it that way and i think it's right.
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Post by: cactus_360 on May 31, 2009, 07:42:10 am
nov 2008 chem p3 was DA EASIEST EVER.........I HOPE IT COMES LIKE THAT THIS TIME
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Post by: astarmathsandchemistry on May 31, 2009, 07:46:55 am
nov 2008 chem p3 was DA EASIEST EVER.........I HOPE IT COMES LIKE THAT THIS TIME
that was the one  i did :P
A******* :P
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Post by: zara on May 31, 2009, 07:49:48 am
but then i heard that ppr for our batch will b difficult.... :-\
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Post by: idol2009 on May 31, 2009, 07:52:37 am
 Question on a past paper: on the October/November 2006 paper 3, question 8 ciii)...
It shows the formulas of 2 fats, and asks you how you would distinguish between the 2 fats, and asks you for the test and results.
Well, i thought it was pretty obvious it was the bromine test, but i wasn't quite sure how to tell which compound was saturated and which one was unsaturated..?
I'd appreciate it if anyone could help =)
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Post by: THEIGBOY on May 31, 2009, 08:00:43 am
Question on a past paper: on the October/November 2006 paper 3, question 8 ciii)...
It shows the formulas of 2 fats, and asks you how you would distinguish between the 2 fats, and asks you for the test and results.
Well, i thought it was pretty obvious it was the bromine test, but i wasn't quite sure how to tell which compound was saturated and which one was unsaturated..?
I'd appreciate it if anyone could help =)
@idol2009
Bromine water will react with unsaturated compounds (in this case the unsaturated fats), but it won't react with saturated ones.
So basically when you add bromine water to a fat and it goes colourless, then it is unsaturated.
and if it stays red/brown then the fat is saturated
Hope it helps....
THEIGBOY
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Post by: idol2009 on May 31, 2009, 08:54:00 am
Yes, I know the bromine test for unsaturation is that but the question gives the structural formulas of two fats and basically asks which one is saturated
The fats are like this :

fat 1:
CH2 - CO2 - C17H33
|
CH - CO2 - C17H33
|
CH2 - CO2 - C17H33

fat 2:
CH2 - CO2 - C17H35
|
CH - CO2 - C17H33
|
CH2 - CO2 - C17H35

How are you supposed to know which one is saturated?
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Post by: THEIGBOY on May 31, 2009, 09:06:16 am
@idol2009
the first one is unsaturated.

Look....
on the first fat, it says at the end of the chain of first and last ester.
C17H33
while on  the second fat...
C17H35

Over there the formula for saturated compounds is
CnH2n+1
while for unsaturated
CnH2n-1


So for 17 carbons (at the end only)----> H (hydrogen) = 2(17) + 1 = 35 ----> for saturated
                                                        H (hydrogen) = 2(17) - 1 = 33 ----> for unsaturated

Hope it helps
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Post by: Shogun on May 31, 2009, 09:09:21 am
wat my teacher said,more saturated means more hydrogen
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Post by: THEIGBOY on May 31, 2009, 09:10:19 am
guyz please help me with this part of the syllabus....

"identify redox reactions by changes in
oxidation state and by the colour changes
involved when using acidified potassium
manganate(VII), and potassium iodide."


Please tell me everything i shud know about this
Thanks...
THEIGBOY
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Post by: SGVaibhav on May 31, 2009, 09:13:29 am
Suggest an explanation why Butan-1-ol cannot form long polymer molecules but ethane-1,2-diol can.


2 marks
very hard  :'( :'(
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Post by: THEIGBOY on May 31, 2009, 09:14:15 am
wat my teacher said,more saturated means more hydrogen
Saturated is where the bondings are all single....i.e. no double or triple bonding.
unsaturated is where there are one or double bonds in the fat chain

There are two types of unsaturated fats
i) mono-unsaturated - i.e. there is only one double bond in the chain
ii)poly-unsaturated - i.e. there are more than one double bonds in the chain...
hope it helps...
THEIGBOY
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Post by: nid404 on May 31, 2009, 09:15:16 am
guyz please help me with this part of the syllabus....

"identify redox reactions by changes in
oxidation state and by the colour changes
involved when using acidified potassium
manganate(VII), and potassium iodide."


Please tell me everything i shud know about this
Thanks...
THEIGBOY
Potassium manganate(VII) to manganese(II) salt--purple to colorless (reduction (7 to 2))
Potassium iodide to iodine--colorless to brown( 2I-to I2(oxidation))


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Post by: SGVaibhav on May 31, 2009, 09:17:56 am
Suggest an explanation why Butan-1-ol cannot form long polymer molecules but ethane-1,2-diol can.


2 marks
very hard  :'( :'(

very hard  :'( :'(
professionals need ur help
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Post by: THEIGBOY on May 31, 2009, 09:23:34 am
Suggest an explanation why Butan-1-ol cannot form long polymer molecules but ethane-1,2-diol can.


2 marks
very hard  :'( :'(
Look
ethane-1,2-diol can has two -OH
while Butan-1-ol has only one -OH
when polymerization occurs, for Butan-1-ol, only one -OH is replaced so it cannot continue in a long polymer
where as in ethane-1,2-diol, two -OH are replaced so it can continue in a long polymer
basically the ethane-1,2-diol will form the similar monomer to polyethene
I'll post a picture in a minute... for explanation

Hope that helps
THEIGBOY
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Post by: nid404 on May 31, 2009, 09:34:15 am
Suggest an explanation why Butan-1-ol cannot form long polymer molecules but ethane-1,2-diol can.


2 marks
very hard  :'( :'(

very hard  :'( :'(
professionals need ur help

 butan-1-ol is saturated, it cannot form a polymer(if two of them join there won't be a continuous link). Well ethane-1,2- diole is a sugar.(remember sugars OH[    ]OH) so it can polymerise(condensation polymerisation) to form starch and water

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Post by: THEIGBOY on May 31, 2009, 09:48:54 am
Suggest an explanation why Butan-1-ol cannot form long polymer molecules but ethane-1,2-diol can.


2 marks
very hard  :'( :'(
Just finished making the picture,here it is...
Hope it explains everything u want to know
By the way... +rep me if it helps
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Post by: THEIGBOY on May 31, 2009, 09:49:50 am
guyz please help me with this part of the syllabus....

"identify redox reactions by changes in
oxidation state and by the colour changes
involved when using acidified potassium
manganate(VII), and potassium iodide."


Please tell me everything i shud know about this
Thanks...
THEIGBOY
Potassium manganate(VII) to manganese(II) salt--purple to colorless (reduction (7 to 2))
Potassium iodide to iodine--colorless to brown( 2I-to I2(oxidation))



Thanks alot
By the way... this is all i have to know????
Thanks again
and best of luck for 2moz exam
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Post by: THEIGBOY on May 31, 2009, 09:51:20 am
Suggest an explanation why Butan-1-ol cannot form long polymer molecules but ethane-1,2-diol can.


2 marks
very hard  :'( :'(
Just finished making the picture,here it is...
Hope it explains everything u want to know
By the way... +rep me if it helps
EDIT:---> sorry forgot to put arrow between first and second diagram of ethane-1,2-diol
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Post by: SGVaibhav on May 31, 2009, 09:53:21 am
SMART
+REP
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Post by: godfather93 on May 31, 2009, 09:54:12 am
thanks igboy
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Post by: Shogun on May 31, 2009, 09:57:31 am
can anyone give me list of:
1)soluble carbonates and the insoluble ones
2)insoluble alkalis, and soluble ones
3)soluble oxides and insoluble ones
4) amphotric oxides
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Post by: THEIGBOY on May 31, 2009, 10:01:14 am
SMART
+REP
Thanks
thanks igboy
My pleasure
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on May 31, 2009, 10:03:06 am
i think all Group IA carbonates as in sodium carbonate, lithium carbonate etc. are soluble and the rest are insolubl.

will find abt the rest shortly..
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Post by: sweetsh on May 31, 2009, 10:03:43 am
can anyone give me list of:
1)soluble carbonates and the insoluble ones
2)insoluble alkalis, and soluble ones
3)soluble oxides and insoluble ones
4) amphotric oxides
I had a paper including all these but its lost :( Someone provide us with it
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Post by: aquarian93 on May 31, 2009, 10:03:58 am
hey wt is exactly the definition of "equilibrium" for reversible rxns? ???
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Post by: idol2009 on May 31, 2009, 10:04:22 am
Umm..okay..I'm not sure I really get it..
 I know that unsaturated compounds contain carbon-carbon double bonds, but none of these contain double bonds...
and you said that the formula for saturated compounds is CnH 2n+1, but aren't alkanes saturated compounds, and that's not their formula..right?
and alkenes are unsaturated and their formula is CnH 2n,

? i hope I haven't confused you and myself even more
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Post by: Shogun on May 31, 2009, 10:07:27 am
hey wt is exactly the definition of "equilibrium" for reversible rxns? ???

when the rate of forward and backward reaction is same, and their concentation of products and reactants does not change
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Post by: aquarian93 on May 31, 2009, 10:08:11 am
Umm..okay..I'm not sure I really get it..
 I know that unsaturated compounds contain carbon-carbon double bonds, but none of these contain double bonds...
and you said that the formula for saturated compounds is CnH 2n+1, but aren't alkanes saturated compounds, and that's not their formula..right?
and alkenes are unsaturated and their formula is CnH 2n,

? i hope I haven't confused you and myself even more

yea ur rite
alkanes fromula is CnH2n+2
alkenes is CnH2n
and yea alkanes are saturated
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on May 31, 2009, 10:08:44 am
Alkalis are normally water soluble, although some like barium carbonate are only soluble when reacting with an acidic aqueous solution

i think all Group IA carbonates as in sodium carbonate, lithium carbonate etc. are soluble and the rest are insolube


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Post by: Nano1313 on May 31, 2009, 10:10:23 am
all group 1 hydroxides and carbonates are soluble in water
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Post by: aquarian93 on May 31, 2009, 10:13:43 am
hey wt is exactly the definition of "equilibrium" for reversible rxns? ???

u guys, is equilibrium "when forward rxn is equal to the backward rxn" or the "conc. of reactant is equal to the products"

i dont get it :( pls help!
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Post by: godfather93 on May 31, 2009, 10:15:04 am
can anyone give me list of:
1)soluble carbonates and the insoluble ones
2)insoluble alkalis, and soluble ones
3)soluble oxides and insoluble ones
4) amphotric oxides

the richard harward book has all of this in a nice list.
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Post by: effigs on May 31, 2009, 10:15:41 am
I believe both are the same-giant and macro

can u give me the exact question. w8 hybye said was right in a way. if your talking about giant covalent molecules then it's diamond, silica,graphite


germanium is an element so that is wrong
its not a question...i just need da meanings... ;D

sorry i was just loking through to see if there we stuff that would help me with my revision..and i came across ur doubt..
actually there is a very slight differnce between giant molecular covalents and macromolecular...
giant molecular covalents are very large numbers of (same) atoms bonded together to form on molecule with a very high relative molecular mass (for example, graphite, diamond, fullerenes (they are all different forms of carbon)
where as,
macromolecular are molecules with atoms of TWO (maybe more..im not quite sure) different elements in a giant covalent structure
hope that helped (Y)
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Post by: aquarian93 on May 31, 2009, 10:18:30 am
u guys,
for exothermic: we say the temp increases
and endothermic: the temp decreases

rite?

so this is abt the surrounding and not the reagent?

pls help!
When the reaction is endothermic.... The surroundings will cool down...e.g. the beaker may cool down....
When the reaction is exothermic..... the surrounding will heat up..... e.g. the beaker may heat up....
and yes...they are talking abt the surroundings....

@thukon ---->
Carbon comes after aluminium and before zinc...hope it helps


thanks!! :)
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Post by: aquarian93 on May 31, 2009, 10:19:32 am
hey wt is exactly the definition of "equilibrium" for reversible rxns? ???

when the rate of forward and backward reaction is same, and their concentation of products and reactants does not change

thanks :)
+rep
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on May 31, 2009, 10:19:56 am
hey wt is exactly the definition of "equilibrium" for reversible rxns? ???

u guys, is equilibrium "when forward rxn is equal to the backward rxn" or the "conc. of reactant is equal to the products"

i dont get it :( pls help!
a time when the forward reaction rate and the reverse reaction rates are equal. The mixture is at equilibrium.
At equilibrium the numbers of reactant and product molecules stays constant. The identity of individual molecules keeps changing.
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Post by: THEIGBOY on May 31, 2009, 10:23:00 am
Umm..okay..I'm not sure I really get it..
 I know that unsaturated compounds contain carbon-carbon double bonds, but none of these contain double bonds...
and you said that the formula for saturated compounds is CnH 2n+1, but aren't alkanes saturated compounds, and that's not their formula..right?
and alkenes are unsaturated and their formula is CnH 2n,

? i hope I haven't confused you and myself even more

No...no....i'm not confused or anything,..The formula I gave you was only for the end of a FAT CHAIN...to check whether it is a saturated or unsaturated FAT....Alkanes and alkenes DO have a separate general formula.....
What i was saying was about fats ONLY... that formula is ONLY for the END of a FAT chain....
Please tell me if u get it...
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Post by: Shogun on May 31, 2009, 10:36:52 am
hey wt is exactly the definition of "equilibrium" for reversible rxns? ???

when the rate of forward and backward reaction is same, and their concentation of products and reactants does not change

thanks :)
+rep

ure welcome thanx for the rep  ;D
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Post by: THEIGBOY on May 31, 2009, 10:49:38 am
GodFather93, THEIGBOY are on
www.drop.io/theigboy
for a group chat on anything related to IGCSE CHEMISTRY
just scroll down and open the chat menu
(chnge ur nick to correspond with studenforums)

By the way it was GodFather93's idea
Come ASAP and ask any question and we'll try our best to answer
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: thukon on May 31, 2009, 12:02:13 pm
Someone said most alkalis are soluble. WRONG!! All alkalis are soluble, but not all bases are soluble. Soluble bases are called alkalis.
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Post by: emi on May 31, 2009, 12:05:35 pm
shogun and sweetsh ,, did u want a list of insoluble salts ??
well if you did then here is it

-all carbonates except those of group 1 metals and ammonium carbonate
-all hydroxides except those of group 1 metals and those of calcium, strontium and barium
-barium, calcium and lead sulphates
-the chlorides, bromides and iodides of both silver and lead

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Post by: evilzurg307 on May 31, 2009, 12:07:24 pm
Cation reactivity series:
Please-K
sent-Na
cats-Ca
monkeys-Mg
and-Al
zebras-Zn
in-Fe
large-Pb
hired-H
cages.-Cu
Make-Hg
sure-Ag
padlocked.-Pt



Thanks that helped a lot!
+rep
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Post by: emi on May 31, 2009, 12:11:25 pm
can some one give me mark scheme for November 2003 paper3 ?  the one on Free exam paper is totally unrelated

ricko the one u posted was for 2005 i want 2003
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: SGVaibhav on May 31, 2009, 12:17:13 pm
Give
examples
of Oxidising agent and Reducing Agnet

Test for Oxidising agent
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Post by: ig_kid on May 31, 2009, 12:22:41 pm
u can search for it from:
www.pastpapers4free.weebly.com
or
www.planet-master.com
 :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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Post by: nid404 on May 31, 2009, 12:24:45 pm
can some one give me mark scheme for November 2003 paper3 ?  the one on Free exam paper is totally unrelated

ricko the one u posted was for 2005 i want 2003

here
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Post by: archangel on May 31, 2009, 12:29:38 pm
@shogun

heres the list: (just the ones we need for igcse only)

                   Soluble:                                           Insoluble:
                 All nitrates

               Most Chlorides                   Except for Silver Chloride (AgCl) and Lead (II) Chloride (PbCl2)[but can be dissolved in hot water]

              Most Sulphates                   Except for Calcium Sulphate (CaSO4), Barium Sulphate (BaSO4) and Lead (II) Sulphate (PbSO4)

      Potassium Carbonate (K2CO3)                  Most Carbonates
       Sodium Carbonate (NaCO3)
    Ammonium Carbonate (NH4)2CO3
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: ig_kid on May 31, 2009, 12:34:04 pm
Oxidising agents:
Cl2
Fe3+
Potassium iodate
potassium bromate
H2O2

Reducing agents:
Hydrogen Sulphide
Fe2+
SO2
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: nid404 on May 31, 2009, 12:36:12 pm
Give
examples
of Oxidising agent and Reducing Agnet

Test for Oxidising agent

potassium dichromate is an oxidisng agent
Carbon, Carbon monoxide r reducing agents

but there r so many more depending on different redox reactions

testing....as in color change with change in oxidation state???
if so then ive ans it before.....u need to know manganate to manganese salt(reduction, color change from purple to colorless) and iodide to iodine(oxidation, colorless to brown)



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Post by: emi on May 31, 2009, 12:36:37 pm
the thing is that if u see that markscheme and match it with the Question paper if doesnt match at all .. in Question paper the first Questions talk about liquid fuels obtained from petroleum while in the mark scheme it says 1) different boiling points ??

part b) says magnesium carbonate reactions with HCL to form a salt name that salt  
the markscheme says Volume decreases for forward reaction.


what i mean is that its not related at all  
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Post by: Kim on May 31, 2009, 12:50:35 pm
test for oxidising agents
potassium iodide changes from colourless to yellow brown when added to a oxidising agent

test for reducing agent
add potassium dichromate colour colour changes from orange to green
add potassium manganate colour changes from purple to colourless
Title: Re: Chemistry Help HERE ONLY !!
Post by: nid404 on May 31, 2009, 12:51:08 pm
the thing is that if u see that markscheme and match it with the Question paper if doesnt match at all .. in Question paper the first Questions talk about liquid fuels obtained from petroleum while in the mark scheme it says 1) different boiling points ??

part b) says magnesium carbonate reactions with HCL to form a salt name that salt  
the markscheme says Volume decreases for forward reaction.


what i mean is that its not related at all  

i  think ur looking at 2 diff papers cuz it's perfectly matching for me.
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Post by: nid404 on May 31, 2009, 12:55:37 pm
ill put the question paper up for u emi
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Post by: ig_kid on May 31, 2009, 12:58:40 pm
i know.....same problem here.
u could just open the question paper from free exam papers and forget about the one u solved, that's wat i did.
Gd luck everybody.....u'll need it ;)
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Post by: emi on May 31, 2009, 01:04:01 pm
WTH!!!    my Question paper is tottaly different  though its same year and everything ,, i will try to scan the first page van u guys tell me which year it is .
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Post by: SGVaibhav on May 31, 2009, 01:07:12 pm
many ppl know abuot this
GodFather93, Q80Boy also know about it.
it might be a specimen or something
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Post by: ig_kid on May 31, 2009, 01:09:23 pm
I hv the same problem and i think it is a very old pass paper without a mark scheme cuz i searched for it on all the years but couldn't find it. >:(
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Post by: emi on May 31, 2009, 01:11:20 pm
sry scanner is dead, i took some pics by mobile though its not clear
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Post by: nid404 on May 31, 2009, 02:32:03 pm
Guys how do we do Question " 7 a) i) " on Paper 3 November 2008

The volumes one

can someone give me the steps as well
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the volume ratio is 1:6.5
since butane is 10cm3 oxygen should be 10x6.5= 65cm3
but since it is 100cm3 there is 35cm3excess oxygen
volume of carbon dioxide is 4 times the volume of butane(ratio 1:4) so it is 10x4=40cm3
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Post by: MaNa on May 31, 2009, 02:34:07 pm
Guys how do we do Question " 7 a) i) " on Paper 3 November 2008

The volumes one

can someone give me the steps as well
[/b][/color]
ok is it 1st varient or seocnd varient
ill tell u 1st
the ratio is
1 mole of oxgen:6.5 moles of oxygen
10cm3                     ?
therefore
6.5*10
=65
so 100-65=35chm3
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Post by: MaNa on May 31, 2009, 02:36:10 pm
n for co2
 ratio again
1:4
so in 10cm3 how much co2 would be formed
4*10=40cm3
hopes that helps:)
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Post by: cactus_360 on May 31, 2009, 02:43:27 pm
is this da 1st varient or da 2nd if its 2nd then ur ans is wrong ,manah
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Post by: MaNa on May 31, 2009, 02:45:34 pm
is this da 1st varient or da 2nd if its 2nd then ur ans is wrong ,manah
its 1st vareint
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Post by: cactus_360 on May 31, 2009, 02:47:44 pm
then its ok....................so finally ur 400th post
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Post by: Clem on May 31, 2009, 02:51:04 pm
Hey! Can anyone help me with question 6cii november 03 p3 ??
Thank youu
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Post by: nid404 on May 31, 2009, 02:56:07 pm
Hey! Can anyone help me with question 6cii november 03 p3 ??
Thank youu

There's no q.6 in nov 2003.

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Post by: Clem on May 31, 2009, 03:05:45 pm
Ummm....
Question 6 c ii : Suggest an explanation why butan-1-ol cannot form long polymer molecules but ethane-1,2 diol can.
My friend told me it's because it has only one OH group, but so do amino acids and they still polymerize anyway.
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Post by: fear_fear on May 31, 2009, 03:09:26 pm
I have a moles question, if i want to find the number of moles of Chlorine cl2.

I apply this formula: mass(g)/Atomic No.

eg. 35.5g/35.5 = 1 mole but since it is cl2 do i multiply the 1 mole by 2 or not

basically what i'm trying to say is does Cl2 mean that i have 2 moles of Chlorine?
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Post by: crypsAnity on May 31, 2009, 03:21:45 pm
@ Clem.. your friend was right .. it is because it has one OH group .. and amino acids are different .. they do not have only an OH group..
they have COOH .. which is the functional group for carboxylic acids.. but thats not the case anywyas they polymerise because they have two different functional groups placed end to end on their molecule ..  so u have to visualize .. u see.. they form a polymer each and evrytime
by adding on to the different group endings .. sorta like laterally inverting evrytime ..

so basically ..yeah ethane, 1,2 diol can polymerise because it has two functional group at both the endings.. whereas butan-1-ol .. just has one.. so it cant link up continuously..
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Post by: IGSTUDENT on May 31, 2009, 03:23:37 pm
CAN SOMEONE HELP..

I NEED SYMBOL EQUATION FOR REACTION BETWEEN ETHANOIC ACID AND SODIUM HYDROXIDE?
NOVEMBER 2005 ...IS IT A REVERSIBLE REACTION?
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Post by: Shogun on May 31, 2009, 03:30:17 pm
it would have same effect of normal acid. so it would be a netralisation reaction giving sodium ethanoate and water

ch3cooh + NaOH ---> Ch3COONa + H2O

and no its not reversible..
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Post by: Shogun on May 31, 2009, 03:34:15 pm
ok, i have a question, see:
1) how can i show in caculation tht a substance is in excess?
2)why to make alloys with metal is better than making with non metals?
3)y do sientist believe tht no undiscovered eliment is missing from the periodic table?

and By the way Thanks emi..
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Post by: sweetie on May 31, 2009, 03:35:32 pm
fear_fear da formula u used is rong da rite one is < mass/relative molecular mass>
and in <cl2>  der is only one mole of chlorine

hope i helped
All the best
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Post by: ~M.J~ on May 31, 2009, 04:01:23 pm
A classmate told me a good mnemonic for the reactivity series, but it goes by the first letter of the element
Please- Potassium
Send- Sodium
Lord- Lithium
Charles- Calcium
McClain- Magnesium
A- Aluminium
Zebra- Zinc
If- Iron
The- Tin
Lame- Lead
Horse- Hydrogen
Cannot- Copper
Munch- Mercury
Sweet- Silver
Grass- Gold
No point in adding one for platinum, because it goes at the end anyway. Where does carbon go in this?

@aquarian. In exothermic, more heat is given out than taken in by the reaction. In endothermic, more heat is taken in than given out.
addition of carbon and Platinum and its like this
Please- Potassium
Send- Sodium
Lord- Lithium
Charles- Calcium
McClain- Magnesium
A- Aluminium
Cute- Carbon
Zebra- Zinc
If- Iron
The- Tin
Lame- Lead
Horse- Hydrogen
Cannot- Copper
Munch- Mercury
Sweet- Silver
Grass- Gold
Properly- Platinum
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Post by: nid404 on May 31, 2009, 04:08:13 pm
ok, i have a question, see:
1) how can i show in caculation tht a substance is in excess?
2)why to make alloys with metal is better than making with non metals?
3)y do sientist believe tht no undiscovered eliment is missing from the periodic table?

and By the way Thanks emi..

1) check mole ratio(if u give me a question i might be able to explain)
2)metallic bonding is in layers, forces are non-directional, which makes them malleable. Non-metals do no have layers and are brittle.
3)the elements in a periodic table are arranged according to their increasing atomic numbers. Atomic number increases consecutively with the current elements, there is therefore no missing element in the table.

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Post by: aquarian93 on May 31, 2009, 04:09:42 pm
i need help wid question 3 c the 2nd part.
chem p3 oct 2008

anyone care to help? i dont get it.


thanks
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on May 31, 2009, 04:12:20 pm
which variant??
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Post by: Priceless on May 31, 2009, 04:15:00 pm
ya shogun....

4 da 1st ques...as nid404 said check mole ratio...da 1 dat has a higher mole no is in excess.
4 ur 2nd n 3rd wues nid404 is completely right..

gud luck 2 evry1  ;)
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on May 31, 2009, 04:15:31 pm
okk..got it so it will be (56*2)/196 *100 = 57.1 %
 :)
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Post by: Priceless on May 31, 2009, 04:16:45 pm
i need help wid question 3 c the 2nd part.
chem p3 oct 2008

anyone care to help? i dont get it.


thanks

lol i wz just gonna say da same thng1!!! gud luck 2 u both ;)
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Post by: nid404 on May 31, 2009, 04:20:44 pm
i need help wid question 3 c the 2nd part.
chem p3 oct 2008

anyone care to help? i dont get it.


thanks

1st variant

Mass of 1 mol of the hydrated oxide=196g
Mass of iron=56x2=112g
%iron in the oxide=112/196x100=57%

2nd variant

mass of water=36g
%water in the oxide=36/196x100=18.4%
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on May 31, 2009, 04:21:55 pm
hahaha nid,,
answered both of themm

was abt to do that..
lol.. :)
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Post by: aquarian93 on May 31, 2009, 04:28:48 pm
thanks guys!
i was toking abt 1st variant
bt guys, i dnt get how u get 57%

the mass is 196
hw do u get 112? :S

and in the same paper i dont understand 5b the third part, cn sum1 explain pls? thank you!
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Post by: nid404 on May 31, 2009, 04:31:22 pm
hahaha nid,,
answered both of themm

was abt to do that..
lol.. :)

but i already did :P
i'm faster :P :P
gtg now..im so totally hungry....chemical reactions in my stomach are causing physical movements and dragging me to the diner table..lol :D

@ aquarian93 it's Fe2(2Fe is 56x2=112g)
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on May 31, 2009, 04:33:03 pm
lol...send some food here too...haha...lol!!
 :D :D :D
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Post by: aquarian93 on May 31, 2009, 04:35:48 pm
@nid: ohhhh! so dey want the % of iron in the rust, stupid me!
thank youu :)
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Post by: Shogun on May 31, 2009, 04:39:09 pm
umm can any1 help me with question 7bii) in oct/nov 2007. its about tht excess stuff, plz i really need to know how substances are in exces

Thanks
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Post by: archangel on May 31, 2009, 04:41:39 pm
heyyyy....

i need help and May June 06 q.6

The radioactive isotopes!
help help help
i have 9 more hours before exams  ???
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Post by: Q80BOY on May 31, 2009, 04:50:21 pm
heyyyy....

i need help and May June 06 q.6

The radioactive isotopes!
help help help
i have 9 more hours before exams  ???

Radioactive Isotopes:

uses:

Medical (CIGS - cigarettes  :P)

C Cobalt Co 60 - Inaccessible cancer
I Iodine I 131 - Thyroid
G Gamma Rays - Sterilising
S Strontium Sr 90 - Skin cancer

IndUStrial

Uranium U 235 - nuclear power
Strontium Sr 90 - thickness of paper

hope i helped  :)
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Post by: archangel on May 31, 2009, 05:01:12 pm
heyyyy....

i need help and May June 06 q.6

The radioactive isotopes!
help help help
i have 9 more hours before exams  ???

Radioactive Isotopes:

uses:

Medical (CIGS - cigarettes  :P)

C Cobalt Co 60 - Inaccessible cancer
I Iodine I 131 - Thyroid
G Gamma Rays - Sterilising
S Strontium Sr 90 - Skin cancer

IndUStrial

Uranium U 235 - nuclear power
Strontium Sr 90 - thickness of paper

hope i helped  :)

ahhh thank youuu so much =)

+rep

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Post by: Q80BOY on May 31, 2009, 05:02:43 pm
thanks  :)

(i think u might have confused the +REP with the -REP button  :P or maybe it wasnt u  :-\)
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Post by: Shogun on May 31, 2009, 05:06:15 pm
really, i need help with the question of excess stuff in, oct/nov2007 Q(7bii)

really need to know how to do it. ??? :'( :-[
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Post by: Ibiza279 on May 31, 2009, 05:10:35 pm
really, i need help with the question of excess stuff in, oct/nov2007 Q(7bii)

really need to know how to do it. ??? :'( :-[

sure ill help ya though i dn knw the question its smewhere in the pile of books but i hv dne the paper so if ya tell me the question ill help ya out :)
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Post by: heat619 on May 31, 2009, 05:18:56 pm
Is the pressure for the Contact Process 10 atm or 20 atm, cuz the mark scheme says 10 but the book says 20 :S
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Post by: Shogun on May 31, 2009, 05:24:25 pm
here it is

(ii)one piece of marble 0.3g, was added to 5cm3 of hydrochloric acid, concentration 1.00 mol/dm3. which reagent is in excess? give reason for your answer.

mass of one mole of CaCO3 =100g

number of moles of CaCO3= .................................................................
number of moles of HCl=.......................................................
regent in excess is ...........................................................
reason....................................................................
                                                                                                   [4]

(iii) use your answer to (ii) to calculate the maximum volume of carbon dioxide produced measured at r.t.p.
...[1]

explain to me what u have to do, plz dont just give me the answer, do explain every part on how to find the excess.

Thanks
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Post by: Ibiza279 on May 31, 2009, 05:26:06 pm
Is the pressure for the Contact Process 10 atm or 20 atm, cuz the mark scheme says 10 but the book says 20 :S

huh we learnt it was 1 atp not 10 or 20 n i checked wikipedia too they say its 1-2 atp so the rite answer is 1 atmospheric pressure
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Post by: thukon on May 31, 2009, 05:31:13 pm
@shogun. CaCO3= 40+12+16+16+16= 100
Number of moles of CaCO3 = 0.3/100= 0.003
Number of moles of HCL = 1 mol per dm3, and 1000cm3 = 1 dm3. 5/1000= 0.005
The reaction needs 1 mol of CaCO3 and 2 mols of HCl. So the HCl needs to be double the the CaCO3, but here there isnt enough, because the CaCO3 is 0.003, and the HCl needs to be 0.006, but its only 0.005. So CaCO3 is in excess.

I was kinda confused myself doing the question. Check with the mark scheme and tell me if im correct. If i am, +rep me PLZ. I REALLY NEED IT!!
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Post by: XGhostX on May 31, 2009, 05:32:36 pm
People i have found this site .....Hope its useful..... http://www.chemactive.com/grade_10.html  :P
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Post by: asus on May 31, 2009, 05:34:44 pm
u guys...help me with this question..
ppr3 june 04 7 b) ii
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Post by: heat619 on May 31, 2009, 05:36:14 pm
Is the pressure for the Contact Process 10 atm or 20 atm, cuz the mark scheme says 10 but the book says 20 :S

huh we learnt it was 1 atp not 10 or 20 n i checked wikipedia too they say its 1-2 atp so the rite answer is 1 atmospheric pressure

so its under normal pressure?
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Post by: nid404 on May 31, 2009, 05:37:45 pm
@shogun. CaCO3= 40+12+16+16+16= 100
Number of moles of CaCO3 = 0.3/100= 0.003
Number of moles of HCL = 1 mol per dm3, and 1000cm3 = 1 dm3. 5/1000= 0.005
The reaction needs 1 mol of CaCO3 and 2 mols of HCl. So the HCl needs to be double the the CaCO3, but here there isnt enough, because the CaCO3 is 0.003, and the HCl needs to be 0.006, but its only 0.005. So CaCO3 is in excess.

I was kinda confused myself doing the question. Check with the mark scheme and tell me if im correct. If i am, +rep me PLZ. I REALLY NEED IT!!

ur right and i +repped u in the morning..it was -8.....there's sumthin wrong...but ill do it again
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Post by: Ibiza279 on May 31, 2009, 05:38:07 pm
@shogun. CaCO3= 40+12+16+16+16= 100
Number of moles of CaCO3 = 0.3/100= 0.003
Number of moles of HCL = 1 mol per dm3, and 1000cm3 = 1 dm3. 5/1000= 0.005
The reaction needs 1 mol of CaCO3 and 2 mols of HCl. So the HCl needs to be double the the CaCO3, but here there isnt enough, because the CaCO3 is 0.003, and the HCl needs to be 0.006, but its only 0.005. So CaCO3 is in excess.

I was kinda confused myself doing the question. Check with the mark scheme and tell me if im correct. If i am, +rep me PLZ. I REALLY NEED IT!!

listen to check the mole ratio u dn need to check the moles in the chemical equation.

n as u get the answer 0.005 which is greater than 0.003 HCl is in excess believe me :)

n to get the volume of CO2 u gotta give me the complete balanced chemical equation  first.

n yh heat619 its under normal pressure
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Post by: effigs on May 31, 2009, 05:42:11 pm
here it is

(ii)one piece of marble 0.3g, was added to 5cm3 of hydrochloric acid, concentration 1.00 mol/dm3. which reagent is in excess? give reason for your answer.

mass of one mole of CaCO3 =100g

number of moles of CaCO3= .................................................................
number of moles of HCl=.......................................................
regent in excess is ...........................................................
reason....................................................................
                                                                                                   [4]

(iii) use your answer to (ii) to calculate the maximum volume of carbon dioxide produced measured at r.t.p.
...[1]

explain to me what u have to do, plz dont just give me the answer, do explain every part on how to find the excess.

Thanks

number of moles of CaCO3= 0.003 (because mass of calcium carbonate over molecular mass of calcium carbonate = 0.003)
number of moles of HCl = 0.005 (because number of moles= volume (in dm3) x concentration =0.005)
reagent in excess= CaCO3
reason= beacuse as the mole ratio (in the equation on the previous page) is 1:2:1:1:1, the reaction would require HCl of two times the moles of CaCO3 (i.e 0.003 x 2 = 0.006) and since we have 0.005 moles of HCl which is lesser than required, CaCO3 is in excess [make sense??]

max. volume of carbon dioxide produced= 0.06 (because as we have 0.005 moles of HCl we have to work with it to find the number of moles of CO2 (mole ratio) and then times it by 24 [as per the formula] to get the answer)
 
well hope that helped...
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Post by: islu_jf on May 31, 2009, 05:42:34 pm
CAn u plz guys tel me what the hell does the "catalytic converter" do????????????????????
plz tel me evrythng abt it..
I really need help :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Post by: goin4dakill on May 31, 2009, 05:47:59 pm
Hey Guys!
Im just new to the forum and I really dont understand how it works! I know you have better things to do and everyone is preparing for chemistry tommorow! But how do u '+rep' someone..and why do you do it? Where are you guys from? We obviosly wont be doing the exam at the same time..but I shall be doing it in approx 13 hours and 15 minutes. I live in Greece :D So do people actually tell others what theyve done in the exam? Sorry, i know..really general..dont answer if u think its irrelevent.
Thanks and best of luck for the exam tomoz!
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Post by: heat619 on May 31, 2009, 05:51:11 pm
CAn u plz guys tel me what the hell does the "catalytic converter" do????????????????????
plz tel me evrythng abt it..
I really need help :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

A catalytic converter is fitted into the exhaust of cars to reduce pollution.
How does it do that?
Well cars emit CO due to incomplete combustion of fuel in the engine,which is harmful, and NO, the catalytic converter does the following reaction,
CO+NO --> Co2 + N2
so the gases become harmless. ;)

+rep if correct :P
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Post by: nid404 on May 31, 2009, 05:51:57 pm
People i have found this site .....Hope its useful..... http://www.chemactive.com/grade_10.html  :P

hey thanks +rep.... ur first ;D

@ibiza a little needs to be corrected with the catalytic converter. it converts carbon monoxide to carbon dioxide and oxides of nitrogen to nitrogen(not nitrogen dioxide)

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Post by: Shogun on May 31, 2009, 05:58:53 pm
Thanks all of u... its correct effigs and thukon , ill +rep u all and nid too

thanx all rep u all 2morow cuz site too slow!
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Post by: islu_jf on May 31, 2009, 06:04:30 pm
People i have found this site .....Hope its useful..... http://www.chemactive.com/grade_10.html  :P

hey thanks +rep.... ur first ;D

@ibiza a little needs to be corrected with the catalytic converter. it converts carbon monoxide to carbon dioxide and oxides of nitrogen to nitrogen(not nitrogen dioxide)



Ok look u dnt get.. do u like heat it with excess oxygen so it can turn from CO to CO2??
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Post by: kam on May 31, 2009, 06:05:13 pm
u guys...help me with this question..
ppr3 june 04 7 b) ii

can someone answer tht
i need help with that too
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Post by: Ibiza279 on May 31, 2009, 06:07:53 pm
actually its CO -> CO2 and nitrogen oxides -> nitrogen and oxygen :D
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Post by: nid404 on May 31, 2009, 06:13:21 pm
People i have found this site .....Hope its useful..... http://www.chemactive.com/grade_10.html  :P

hey thanks +rep.... ur first ;D

@ibiza a little needs to be corrected with the catalytic converter. it converts carbon monoxide to carbon dioxide and oxides of nitrogen to nitrogen(not nitrogen dioxide)


Ok look u dnt get.. do u like heat it with excess oxygen so it can turn from CO to CO2??

oh dear no....
this is the reaction taking place in the converter

2CO+2NO--->2CO2+N2
or
4CO+2NO2--->4CO2+N2
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Post by: Ibiza279 on May 31, 2009, 06:14:53 pm
we dn care if it burns it or does smething naughty with it v jus knw it that thats what happens n its gna get us the mark :)
n yh sorry bout the catalytic converter everybody was busy watchn top gear videos :P thgh tmrws the exam well am off now tk everyone all the best !
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Post by: heat619 on May 31, 2009, 06:21:19 pm
u guys...help me with this question..
ppr3 june 04 7 b) ii

can someone answer tht
i need help with that too

to find which is in excess we have to compare moles and see which one has more, this will be excess.
Moles of Mg=3/24=0.125
Moles of Ethanoic acid= 12/60=0.2
So now u may think that ethanoic acid is excess.
But look at the mole ratios in the formula, it says (1)Mg + 2 ethanoic acid
so u hav to divide moles of acid by 2 so u get 0.1, so with the same ratios, mg has more mole(0.125),so its in excess....
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Post by: kam on May 31, 2009, 06:23:32 pm
i was talking about bii
how many moles of hydrogen formed

and thx By the way
+rep 4 u
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Post by: evilzurg307 on May 31, 2009, 06:24:28 pm
Can any one explain the answer to O/N 2008 q4(a)(iii)??

4(a)(iii)Name two compounds (other than sodium hydroxide) that would react with benzoic acid to form sodium benzoate?
A: Sodium oxide and Sodium Carbonate but why???
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Post by: kam on May 31, 2009, 06:29:22 pm
acid+base= salt + water
acid+carbonate=salt + water +carbon dioxide
as the oxide is basic
the salt is sodium benzoate
gettit?
i just hope im right
correct me if im wrong tho
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Post by: heat619 on May 31, 2009, 06:32:17 pm
i was talking about bii
how many moles of hydrogen formed

and thx By the way
+rep 4 u


ohh srry lol
k, use mole ratio, if 2 moles gave u 0.2 mol, then 1 mole would give u X
X= (0.2*1)/2
X=0.1 :D
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Post by: evilzurg307 on May 31, 2009, 06:34:16 pm
acid+base= salt + water
acid+carbonate=salt + water +carbon dioxide
as the oxide is basic
the salt is sodium benzoate
gettit?
i just hope im right
correct me if im wrong tho

Oh i see
I dint know sodium benzoate was a salt lol ;D
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Post by: kam on May 31, 2009, 06:35:21 pm
acid+base= salt + water
acid+carbonate=salt + water +carbon dioxide
as the oxide is basic
the salt is sodium benzoate
gettit?
i just hope im right
correct me if im wrong tho

Oh i see
I dint know sodium benzoate was a salt lol ;D

i may be wrong tho
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Post by: kam on May 31, 2009, 06:40:34 pm
i need help in nov 2004 q7
c)
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Post by: THEIGBOY on May 31, 2009, 07:18:00 pm
i need help in nov 2004 q7
c)
number of moles of Fe2(SO4)3 = 1/40 or 0.025
number of moles of Fe2 O3 formed = 1/40 or 0.025
mass of iron(III) oxide formed = 0.025 x 160 = 4g
number of moles of SO3 produced = 3/40 or 0.075
volume of sulphur trioxide at r.t.p. = 0.075 x 25
                                               = 1.8dm3
hope it helps



By the way guyz my rep got reduced.... may i know who did it and why????
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Post by: reishamix on May 31, 2009, 07:27:11 pm
hey
can sm1 plz attatch the mark scheme
fr o/n session 2003 chemistry paper 3??
 :-[
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Post by: THEIGBOY on May 31, 2009, 07:29:00 pm
hey
can sm1 plz attatch the mark scheme
fr o/n session 2003 chemistry paper 3??
 :-[
which year?
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Post by: THEIGBOY on May 31, 2009, 07:31:21 pm
argh...sumbudy decreased my rep even more
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Post by: reishamix on May 31, 2009, 07:32:36 pm
argh...sumbudy decreased my rep even more

frget rep man
it dsnt mke a differnc
do u hav the mark scheme?? :-[
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Post by: THEIGBOY on May 31, 2009, 07:34:37 pm
argh...sumbudy decreased my rep even more

frget rep man
it dsnt mke a differnc
do u hav the mark scheme?? :-[

Which year????
i have all marking schemes from 1999 onwards
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Post by: reishamix on May 31, 2009, 07:40:39 pm
argh...sumbudy decreased my rep even more

frget rep man
it dsnt mke a differnc
do u hav the mark scheme?? :-[

Which year????
i have all marking schemes from 1999 onwards

2003
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Post by: kam on May 31, 2009, 07:41:49 pm
i need help in nov 2004 q7
c)
number of moles of Fe2(SO4)3 = 1/40 or 0.025
number of moles of Fe2 O3 formed = 1/40 or 0.025
mass of iron(III) oxide formed = 0.025 x 160 = 4g
number of moles of SO3 produced = 3/40 or 0.075
volume of sulphur trioxide at r.t.p. = 0.075 x 25
                                               = 1.8dm3
hope it helps



why do u multiply 0.075 by 25?

and can u attatch p3 1999 mark scheme and que paper

+rep



By the way guyz my rep got reduced.... may i know who did it and why????

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Post by: THEIGBOY on May 31, 2009, 07:47:17 pm
argh...sumbudy decreased my rep even more

frget rep man
it dsnt mke a differnc
do u hav the mark scheme?? :-[
go to www.drop.io/theigboy
the password is in ur inbox....
and download the file... i can't upload it here for some reason...

Which year????
i have all marking schemes from 1999 onwards

2003
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Post by: Priceless on May 31, 2009, 08:02:01 pm
hey igboy der u go...+rep hope it helps u ....lol...gud luck wid ur xams  ;)
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Post by: goin4dakill on May 31, 2009, 08:11:47 pm
HEYYYY GUYSSS!!!!!!!! PLEASE SOMEONE HELP ME?!

Okay, for Organic chemistry, when they ask you for a starch molecule or sugar molecule... My book gives you a very comlex structure that sort of looks like a crab or..a extented hexagon, with OH-O and H..
But the past paper June 2008 marking scheme (its hard to understand what they want us to give) but a simple square with just an -O- on either side! Really would appreciate it guys!

Good luck! By the way when do u guys have ur exam..? I have mine in about 11 hours.. WOOOT!!!!! **cofffeeee time*****************
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Post by: reishamix on May 31, 2009, 08:19:37 pm
HEYYYY GUYSSS!!!!!!!! PLEASE SOMEONE HELP ME?!

Okay, for Organic chemistry, when they ask you for a starch molecule or sugar molecule... My book gives you a very comlex structure that sort of looks like a crab or..a extented hexagon, with OH-O and H..
But the past paper June 2008 marking scheme (its hard to understand what they want us to give) but a simple square with just an -O- on either side! Really would appreciate it guys!

Good luck! By the way when do u guys have ur exam..? I have mine in about 11 hours.. WOOOT!!!!! **cofffeeee time*****************

i guess a -O-[BOX]-O-
is all wht they want..
my tchr told us its simpl fr IGz ..
u gotta do tht fr a levls
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Post by: goin4dakill on May 31, 2009, 08:27:54 pm
OK thank you!!! Will do then.. Even though they have that in my IGCSE CIE cambridge book..Oh wellz.
Best of luck in ur exam tomoz!!!
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Post by: SGVaibhav on May 31, 2009, 08:30:04 pm
nice nick goin4dakill
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Post by: goin4dakill on May 31, 2009, 08:31:23 pm
hahahah arent we all :DDD
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Post by: X Abdulrahman X on May 31, 2009, 08:33:29 pm
peeps this guy is amazing, prob the best chemistry teacher living, i watched about 10 of his vids and they help aloooot esp on organic chemistry, im on a roll now  8)

http://www.youtube.com/user/bannanaiscool
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Post by: heat619 on May 31, 2009, 08:57:26 pm
In drawing an alloy, do we draw the different cations with different colors(shade one) or different sizes??? plz reply
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Post by: Bani on May 31, 2009, 08:58:45 pm
Please help: in October/November 2004, Q6b i) Why do we get -OOC-C6H4-COOCH2CH2O-
Please someone tell me why do we put the O (in bold) after the CH2CH2, shouldn't we just continue with COO bond? Please help

And, Q8c iii) please help how to work out the answer.
Thanks in advance.
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Post by: Bani on May 31, 2009, 09:01:01 pm
In drawing an alloy, do we draw the different cations with different colors(shade one) or different sizes??? plz reply

Different sizes and shaded I think. But most probably different sizes.
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Post by: heat619 on May 31, 2009, 09:13:18 pm
In drawing an alloy, do we draw the different cations with different colors(shade one) or different sizes??? plz reply

Different sizes and shaded I think. But most probably different sizes.

Thanx +rep!!!!
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Post by: Bani on May 31, 2009, 09:23:33 pm
Please someone please answer my question....pleaseeee :-[
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Post by: kam on May 31, 2009, 09:31:22 pm
Please help: in October/November 2004, Q6b i) Why do we get -OOC-C6H4-COOCH2CH2O-
Please someone tell me why do we put the O (in bold) after the CH2CH2, shouldn't we just continue with COO bond? Please help

And, Q8c iii) please help how to work out the answer.
Thanks in advance.

yeah but didnt u start it with a cooo bond?
 it says cooch2ch2o
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Post by: ~M.J~ on May 31, 2009, 09:38:30 pm
what is this thingi called




is it 2,3 dimethylpentane
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Post by: ~M.J~ on May 31, 2009, 09:44:58 pm
please answer me is it correct????  :-\
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Post by: zara on May 31, 2009, 09:46:16 pm
yea its rite..
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Post by: ~M.J~ on May 31, 2009, 09:50:27 pm
thanx

i m so freaked out rite now
so much left to learn
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Post by: zara on May 31, 2009, 09:53:17 pm
wat??!!!!
wat were u doin all these days??
neways...hope u complete it all b4 the exam....

n dont freak out...stay calm n study or ull get nuthin....

all the best mate!!!
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Post by: cactus_360 on May 31, 2009, 09:55:26 pm
hows ur prep. zara
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Post by: zara on May 31, 2009, 10:00:14 pm
yea its f9.....im don't.....alhumdullilah...u tll..

now i just hope ppr goes well...
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Post by: cactus_360 on May 31, 2009, 10:03:08 pm
its f9 tooooo  hope everything goes welll.......inshallah

i hope da paper comes like nov 2008

who da hell -rep me??????

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Post by: zara on May 31, 2009, 10:05:28 pm
yea inshallah...
dunno hu -repped u.....

but hea's +rep frm me.... ;D
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Post by: kam on May 31, 2009, 10:30:11 pm
zara thx for  da old pastpapers they really helped
+rep from me
and to cactus too haha
sorry tht wasnt funny ;D
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Post by: archangel on June 01, 2009, 12:54:05 am
ohhh man!

1h 30 mins to exam =S
lol, wish me good luck  :P

WISH U ALL BEST OF LUCKK!
cream this paper! hahaaa

so nervous :S 
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Post by: chaosking on June 01, 2009, 02:07:16 am
when lactic acid is heated, u get acrylic acid and ..............................??
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Post by: chaosking on June 01, 2009, 02:29:28 am
guys pls help wid percentage yield, pls pls guys, someone???
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Post by: thukon on June 01, 2009, 07:18:11 am
@ emi, theres no point getting everybody relaxed and telling them that probably wasted my time. They wanted the truth, and i told them. U tell them some sh*t and make them relax, and then the mess up in the exam. I studied just as hard as anyone else for ur information, and u dont have to lock the thread just so i cant have my say, making me post in other ppls threads.
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Post by: XaM!! on June 01, 2009, 07:26:41 am
when lactic acid is heated, u get acrylic acid and ..............................??
water
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Post by: aquarian93 on June 01, 2009, 07:41:21 am
cn cn we discuss yet or not?
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Post by: thukon on June 01, 2009, 07:57:29 am
no, but pm me. Im done, so we can discuss privately.
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Post by: IGCSE nightmare on June 01, 2009, 08:31:42 am
Can I discuss several questions about the test or
still we have to wait?
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Post by: aquarian93 on June 01, 2009, 08:35:09 am
exactly..cuz i wanna discuss too
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Post by: asus on June 01, 2009, 08:38:46 am
that paper was horrible...!! >:( >:(
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Post by: idk on June 01, 2009, 08:41:27 am
hey can any1 who has done the paper tell me what was the formula and reasoning to the phosphate of T metal question.otherwise i guess the paper rocked!
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Post by: aquarian93 on June 01, 2009, 08:45:56 am
for me it was horrible or amazingg! it was in between :( hope we all did well tho!
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Post by: aquarian93 on June 01, 2009, 08:46:23 am
for me it was horrible or amazingg! it was in between :( hope we all did well tho!

i mean it "wasnt"
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Post by: aquarian93 on June 01, 2009, 08:47:45 am
u guys cn anyone tell me wen we cn discuss? cuz i hav eco tom, and i shud revise for tht so pls tell me wen we cn discuss k
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Post by: thukon on June 01, 2009, 08:48:23 am
hey can any1 who has done the paper tell me what was the formula and reasoning to the phosphate of T metal question.otherwise i guess the paper rocked!

ur leaking questions.

We can discuss by tomorrow morning.
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Post by: Shogun on June 01, 2009, 09:18:36 am
now as i promised, i will +rep thukon, effigs and nid (lol but u gotta wait cuz 2 hours for each.lol)

thnk u all ;D :D :)
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Post by: amy.mym on June 01, 2009, 09:25:05 am
Oh God stupiiiiiiiid Paper

The first pages were easy

It was the phosphate one and the last page which I screwed big time LOL

I'm doing my history exam after a few hours so if I come back I'll discuss with some of you privately about the paper
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Post by: XaM!! on June 01, 2009, 09:45:31 am
dat bonding ques was dificult....... dat energy one.... rest was excellent.......
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Post by: Q80BOY on June 01, 2009, 09:48:36 am
hey guys,

please wait for 24hrs and then discuss the exam,

thanks  :)
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Post by: XaM!! on June 01, 2009, 09:50:39 am
hey guys,

please wait for 24hrs and then discuss the exam,

thanks  :)


 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Q80BOY...




alrite alrite v vnt discus........ lololololllllllllllllllllllll hope u dint mind......
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Post by: Q80BOY on June 01, 2009, 09:53:28 am
thanks  ;)
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Post by: MaNa on June 01, 2009, 12:45:20 pm
mostly Chemistry paper 03 variation is 53-56 marks
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Post by: MidMido on June 01, 2009, 09:18:31 pm
Do anybody know A* varies from how many marks for ALL CHEMISTRY Extended Theory (Paper1 , Paper3, Paper6)
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Post by: sweetsh on June 02, 2009, 06:06:37 am
ManaH, it's impossible this year to have the gardethresholds are going to be like this, in MJ08 the exam was SO easy and it was like 45/80 is an A!! So how come in a diffiuclt exam like this?
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Post by: cactus_360 on June 02, 2009, 07:13:17 am
wats d MATTER WITH U ..............SWEETISH
24 HRS R OVER......................

R U CRAZY OR WAT ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*............
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Post by: nid404 on June 02, 2009, 07:19:05 am
i didn't find the papers difficult ;D ;D ;D
just a little different(the format) :-\
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Post by: sweetsh on June 02, 2009, 07:20:43 am
I'll wait a response from one of the moderators.
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Post by: horror on June 02, 2009, 07:22:27 am
ManaH, it's impossible this year to have the gardethresholds are going to be like this, in MJ08 the exam was SO easy and it was like 58/80 is an A!! So how come in a diffiuclt exam like this?
In MJ08 The A was 45/80
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Post by: sweetsh on June 02, 2009, 07:30:33 am
Sorry I got confused yes 45/80
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Post by: aquarian93 on June 02, 2009, 07:57:23 am
i hope its lower than 45 this year :)
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Post by: lana on June 02, 2009, 11:50:40 am
can we discuss now ??
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Post by: red_devilz on June 03, 2009, 11:47:59 am
can u please send it to me also my email is gauravkumar85@gmail.com
thanks
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Post by: ap105 on June 03, 2009, 01:18:02 pm
Hi godfather93,
Well ... here's how it goes ...
In order to determine the oxidation state of a metal, one has 2 know the charge present on it ...
Metals are electropositive in nature ... given a Periodic Table one can easily determine the charge on any metal owing to its position ...
Take Potassium for example -
* The Potassium ion K+ will have an oxidation state of +1
* The atom of Potassium will have an oxidation state of 0 -- since it hasn't turned into a cation as yet
Similarly, for ... say Calcium --
Oxidation State will be +2 ... but remember -- this is for the Calcium ion, not the atom.

Hope this helped !!
ap105 :)
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Post by: AS girl on June 03, 2009, 01:21:48 pm
i hope its lower than 45 this year :)

lol what can be lower than 45??
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Post by: °o.O-hash94-O.o° on June 08, 2009, 07:06:55 pm
plz can someone tell me answer about the question which my friend asked , i am not giving chem exam so i am totally blank about chem!

Q:Which is more reactive hydrogen or chromium????

help would be much appreciated!
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Post by: nid404 on June 08, 2009, 07:09:12 pm
It's chromium

reactivity series http://www.chemos.co.uk/Reactivity.htm
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Post by: °o.O-hash94-O.o° on June 08, 2009, 07:10:33 pm
ok i will tell this to my friend!

thanks!!!!!!
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Post by: nid404 on June 08, 2009, 07:11:02 pm
anytime :)
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Post by: MaNa on June 11, 2009, 02:03:07 pm
ANYONE HAS MARKSCHEME FROm2001-2004(not  2002)
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Post by: sundars on June 11, 2009, 02:05:10 pm
You can get on freeexapapers.com.
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Post by: Priceless on June 11, 2009, 02:05:47 pm
hey ya....i du as a matter of fact....pm me ur email...i ll send it across 2 u :)
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Post by: MaNa on June 11, 2009, 02:10:18 pm
hey ya....i du as a matter of fact....pm me ur email...i ll send it across 2 u :)
thankyou so mcuh cheak ur messages
i have pmd uL)
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Post by: lana on June 11, 2009, 06:31:47 pm
hi ... can anyone explain to me question 16 in paper 1 m/j/07 thanks ...!!! i think it should be B but the mark scheme says it's C
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on June 11, 2009, 06:35:08 pm
S has many oxidation states including -2,0,2,4,6...
in this particular reaction the oxidation state of S is "+2"
a decrease in oxidation state - reduction
an increase in oxidation state - oxidation

1.) S + O2 -> SO2
     here at the left handside, as sulphur exists itself (not compound), the oxidation state is 0
          at the right hand sidde it forms a compound and gains an oxidation state of +2 = this is oxidation
          whereas O has an oxidation state of "0" in the left hand side and decreases to -4 in the right hand side
               this is reduction

therefore its redox

---------
2.) the sulphur gains oxygen atoms (oxidation) and the oxidation state of oxygen reduces..(reduction)
therefore it is redox

so the answer is "C"
1 and 2
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Post by: lana on June 11, 2009, 06:38:23 pm
thank you =]
+rep
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Post by: VIP_93 on June 11, 2009, 07:50:24 pm
can any 1 plz post chemistry past papers from 93 _ 95 and their mark scheme.

thanx in advance
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Post by: kam on June 12, 2009, 05:17:56 am
hi
um can someone help me with
may june 2007 que 7
why the hell is it c??
helppp pllzzz :)
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Post by: kam on June 12, 2009, 05:29:13 am
actually forget tht
i know the answer now thx ET :-*
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Post by: susman on June 12, 2009, 05:35:47 am
yeah me too the same question
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on October 26, 2009, 07:36:35 am
my friend tought me an easier way to study these...luk up^^^^
HOPES THIS HELPS  :D

i remember it this way..

PAMELA SANDURST CAUGHT MAN AND CAT, ZIPPED IT TO LUDHIANA, HARYANA COPS SOLD GUARDIAN PAMELA.

LOL..THE REACTIVITY SERIES
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Post by: @d!_†oX!© on October 26, 2009, 07:41:51 am
i have another interesting one:
Please               Potassium
Send                 Sodium
Cows                 Calcium
Monkeys             Magnesium
And                   Aluminium
Zebras               Zinc
In                     Iron
Large                 Lead
Hard                  Hydrogen
Cages with         Copper
Maximum            Mercury
Security             Silver
Guards               Gold

Haha.....lol...again...THE REACTIVITY SERIES!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on October 26, 2009, 07:46:44 am
HEY LETS CONTInue the discussion for the chem paper..

wat say?..

i just practised those sodium thisosulfate + potassium iodate questions..

am clear with them now.

--
can any one list out the experimental improvements?

for e.g use a burette/pipette instead of measuring cylinder

-repeat the experiments as average is more accurate

wat else?

any ideas?
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on October 26, 2009, 07:51:10 am
i guess we can also tell clean the app. so that there is no impurties which affect the exp.

will it do
 @ adi toxic- great one dude really good attempt!!
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on October 26, 2009, 07:52:29 am
i have another interesting one:
Please               Potassium
Send                 Sodium
Cows                 Calcium
Monkeys             Magnesium
And                   Aluminium
Zebras               Zinc
In                     Iron
Large                 Lead
Hard                  Hydrogen
Cages with         Copper
Maximum            Mercury
Security             Silver
Guards               Gold

Haha.....lol...again...THE REACTIVITY SERIES!!!!!!!!
but
wher the hell is platinum i guess it shud be:
Please               Potassium
Send                 Sodium
Cows                 Calcium
Monkeys             Magnesium
And                   Aluminium
Zebras               Zinc
In                     Iron
Large                 Lead
Hard                  Hydrogen
Cages with         Copper
Maximum            Mercury
Security             Silver
Guards               Gold
please...             Platinum

hows it now!!??
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Post by: @d!_†oX!© on October 26, 2009, 07:54:20 am
HAHAHA!!!!!!
pretty clever of u shreycool!!!
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on October 26, 2009, 07:54:46 am
haha
thanx dude
but the idea was yours!!
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on October 26, 2009, 07:55:57 am
@adi toxic - any more improvements (experimental)

these can be some

-use of colourimeter
-use of data logging (instead of timer)
-use of burette/pipette
-repeat and average
-clean the apparatus for no impurities
any more?
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on October 26, 2009, 07:57:27 am
oyee!!!
wat abt my suggestion abt using and cleaning the app. so that no impurities are there???
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Post by: @d!_†oX!© on October 26, 2009, 07:58:14 am
@ adi i think its a great idea.....everyone wud be having some doubts....
nd abt d improvements:
u've already mentioned most of them...i can just recall one more...
for heat and temperature exp...use insulation...
will tell ya wen i get smthngelse
@ shreycool...lol...ya i know it was my creation...bt Thanks for improving it though....
By the way it luks more like a request to a wildlife sanctuary dan a reactivity series.....lolzzzz
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Post by: @d!_†oX!© on October 26, 2009, 07:59:06 am
@ shreycool....its not a kinda improvement though bt ya its lgical if u use different chemicals in the same apparatus
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on October 26, 2009, 08:01:24 am
ohh ya!!
i got one i guess i guess |AM| might remeber covering it wid lid and lagging and all those stuff in specific heat capacity qus!!
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on October 26, 2009, 08:03:57 am
ohh ya!!
i got one i guess i guess |AM| might remeber covering it wid lid and lagging and all those stuff in specific heat capacity qus!!
thats for physics..

insulation for chem..only exo. and endo. reactions..

for e.g

Devise an experiment to show that CaO + H2O is an exo. reaction


here..u add known amount of CaO to known volume of water. record the time and temperature using thermometer.stop the watch when temp. reaches a constant value.

here..the improvememnts can be.

-Use data logging
-Use insulation
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on October 26, 2009, 08:06:08 am
ohh
kkk
go it i thoguht for all subjects
tbtw we can even use stopper so that heat does not escape!!!
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Post by: @d!_†oX!© on October 26, 2009, 08:06:43 am
hmmmm....
gr8 adi....
By the way y u not replying to my messages dude???
i need d files yaar...
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on October 26, 2009, 08:28:52 am
oye!!!
which files are you both talking about??!!  ??? ???

just tell me
i'll see if i have them!!
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Post by: @d!_†oX!© on October 26, 2009, 08:53:46 am
ohh nothning shreycool..its for FLE nd not chem!!
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on October 26, 2009, 08:55:53 am
soo any more doubts/discusisons/confusing topics?
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on October 26, 2009, 08:57:28 am
not m,cuh just see the thrad hydrogen fuels that is bugging me!!!  :( :( :(
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on October 26, 2009, 09:41:44 am
any other topic disxussion/doubts/confirmatoins..wud be helpful for all of us..
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Post by: adorabledaughter_07 on October 26, 2009, 10:01:00 am
confusion!..how do u obtain crystals from a solution of CuSO4?..evaporate it?/heat it?..nd y?
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on October 26, 2009, 10:03:08 am
confusion!..how do u obtain crystals from a solution of CuSO4?..evaporate it?/heat it?..nd y?

evaporate/heat it till crystallization point. Obtain dry crystals.
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Post by: adorabledaughter_07 on October 26, 2009, 10:07:45 am
Thanks ..u cud evaporate it alzo rite...bt ans scheme doest grant a mark 4 it...
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on October 26, 2009, 10:08:58 am
@adi tixic i still think that we have some error  in the series..
we missed carbon look at the change i did:
Please               Potassium
Send                 Sodium
Cows                 Calcium
Monkeys             Magnesium
And                   Aluminium
Caribbean           Carbon
Zebras               Zinc
In                     Iron
Large                 Lead
Hard                  Hydrogen
Cages with         Copper
Maximum            Mercury
Security             Silver
Guards               Gold
please...             Platinum

i feel now there must be no more changes!!! :P :P :P :P
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on October 26, 2009, 10:12:25 am
By the way...u guyz missed the working of hydrogen fuel cells with acid electrolyte..

heres. it..

the hydrogen (H2) loses electrons.. 2H2 --> 4H+ + 4e- which travel through the circuit to the cathode and react with O2..also the H+ ions from the acid electrolyte meets the electrons and O2 at the cathode

the reaction

O2 + 4H+ + 4e- = 2H2O

---
The H+ ions removed from the electrolyte are replaced by those produced at the anode.

@adorabledaughter - yea..ut u can use the word heat and crystallization point.
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on October 26, 2009, 10:14:32 am
Please               Potassium
Send                 Sodium
Cows                 Calcium
Monkeys             Magnesium
And                   Aluminium
Caribbean           Carbon
Zebras               Zinc
In                     Iron
Large                 Lead
Hard                  Hydrogen
Cages with         Copper
Maximum            Mercury
Security             Silver
Guards               Gold
please...             Platinum

i gues we must change the last thig
we can not have two please...
lolzzz :D :D

so i have made it to

Please               Potassium
Send                 Sodium
Cows                 Calcium
Monkeys             Magnesium
And                   Aluminium
Caribbean           Carbon
Zebras               Zinc
In                     Iron
Large                 Lead
Hard                  Hydrogen
Cages with         Copper
Maximum            Mercury
Security             Silver
Guards to           Gold
pune                 Platinum
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Post by: @d!_†oX!© on October 26, 2009, 10:17:33 am
shreycool
i intentionally missed out carbon cuz it was neither needed by me nor it was fitting in the mnemonic
bt i feel this is gud....
gr8 editing man
nd bude....PATIALA luks better...hahaha...llolzzzzzz
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on October 26, 2009, 10:19:00 am
no probs add ne place begining from p
i ahve no probklem dude!!

 :P :P :P :P
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on October 26, 2009, 10:19:34 am
By the way...u guyz missed the working of hydrogen fuel cells with acid electrolyte..

heres. it..

the hydrogen (H2) loses electrons.. 2H2 --> 4H+ + 4e- which travel through the circuit to the cathode and react with O2..also the H+ ions from the acid electrolyte meets the electrons and O2 at the cathode

the reaction

O2 + 4H+ + 4e- = 2H2O

---
The H+ ions removed from the electrolyte are replaced by those produced at the anode.

@adorabledaughter - yea..ut u can use the word heat and crystallization point.

sry..i 4got this..

anode - -ve terminal
cathode = +ve terminal
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on October 26, 2009, 10:21:30 am
Please               Potassium
Send                 Sodium
Cows                 Calcium
Monkeys             Magnesium
And                   Aluminium
Caribbean           Carbon
Zebras               Zinc
In                     Iron
Large                 Lead
Hard                  Hydrogen
Cages with         Copper
Maximum            Mercury
Security             Silver
Guards               Gold
please...             Platinum

i gues we must change the last thig
we can not have two please...
lolzzz :D :D

so i have made it to

Please               Potassium
Send                 Sodium
Cows                 Calcium
Monkeys             Magnesium
And                   Aluminium
Caribbean           Carbon
Zebras               Zinc
In                     Iron
Large                 Lead
Hard                  Hydrogen
Cages with         Copper
Maximum            Mercury
Security             Silver
Guards to           Gold
pune                 Platinum

u missed tin..
it cums between iron and lead..

editing,,,

".....in tremondously large hard cages...."
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Post by: @d!_†oX!© on October 26, 2009, 10:23:26 am
lolzzz..... :D :D :D
guys do u like intend to combine all chemistry in one single mnemonic?????????? ;D ;D ;D :P :P ;)
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on October 26, 2009, 10:27:53 am
lol..k..den..anymore discusisons..

organic?..equilibrium?
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Post by: zara on October 26, 2009, 10:28:49 am
lolzzz..... :D :D :D
guys do u like intend to combine all chemistry in one single mnemonic?????????? ;D ;D ;D :P :P ;)
loll....wud be nice eh? if poss.
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Post by: **!!superexcited!!!** on November 05, 2009, 05:50:51 am
For d reactivity series u also hv,
Pond                Potassium
Slime                Sodium
Can                  calcium
Make                magnesium
A                     aluminium
Zoo                  zinc
Interesting         iron
The                  tin
Long                 lead
Crinkly              copper
Sort                 silver
Goes                gold
Purple               platinum
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 05, 2009, 05:56:58 am
i guess we must leanr all the subject in same way!!!
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Post by: **!!superexcited!!!** on November 05, 2009, 05:58:52 am
i guess we must leanr all the subject in same way!!!
yea lol... makes learnin soo much simpler!! :D
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 05, 2009, 06:12:07 am
more than simpler funny!!
i guess fun  learning is da best!!!
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Post by: Reechna on November 05, 2009, 06:36:26 am
My teacher used this one:

Popular= potassium
Scientist= Sodium
Can= Calcium
Make= magnesium
A= aluminium
Zoo= zinc
In= iron
The= tin
Low= lead
Country= copper
Side= silver

Kinda lame but I remember it better. just the gold and platinum missing... :-\
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 05, 2009, 06:46:46 am
hmm..!!but toxic's and mine one was da best!!!
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 05, 2009, 06:53:22 am
My teacher used this one:

Popular= potassium
Scientist= Sodium
Can= Calcium
Make= magnesium
A= aluminium
Zoo= zinc
In= iron
The= tin
Low= lead
Country= copper
Side= silver

Kinda lame but I remember it better. just the gold and platinum missing... :-\

hydrogen, carbon, gold, platinum is missin.
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Post by: nid404 on November 05, 2009, 06:53:51 am
I'll try makin mnemonics...jst lemme know on what
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 05, 2009, 06:59:14 am
k..!
do it soon!!
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Post by: nid404 on November 05, 2009, 07:00:23 am
k..!
do it soon!!

for what??? Lemme knw what u need.....accordingly ill make 'em
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 05, 2009, 07:01:15 am
hmm..!!
k then make it for cations and aniaons ka test!!
you can make as many as you want!!
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Post by: nid404 on November 05, 2009, 07:06:39 am
K..will try

to start with Cations are pawsitive.

ANION is A Negative ION

 :D

will make some for the tests soon
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 05, 2009, 07:12:15 am
K..will try

to start with Cations are pawsitive.

ANION is A Negative ION

 :D

will make some for the tests soon
I LIKE IT! :P
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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 05, 2009, 07:24:23 am
K..will try

to start with Cations are pawsitive.

ANION is A Negative ION

 :D

will make some for the tests soon

good one!!!

me too!!
i liked t too!!
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Post by: **!!superexcited!!!** on November 05, 2009, 07:58:42 am
Ease of discharge for anions:
Sara's Niece Hannah Chose Bright Indigo.....This is for
Sulphate Nitrate Hydroxide Chloride Bromide Iodide...
****Ease of discharge increases DOWNWARDS****
PS: Chloride discharged in preference to hydroxide if chloride solution concentrated, otherwise vice versa

Ease of discharge for cations:
Pond Slime Can Make A Zoo Interesting Like Holy Cute Snow...
ie Potassium sodium calcium magnesium aluminium zinc iron lead Hydrogen copper silver
****Ease of discharge increases DOWNWARDS****


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Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 05, 2009, 08:42:44 am
goodone!!
but chnge the first it feels wierd!!!

but overall good one!!
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Post by: amrit-bassi on April 10, 2012, 10:53:37 am
I need January 2011 Edexcel IGCSE Chemistry Paper 2 and May/June 2005 Paper 2H mark schemes, please reply ASAP thanks :)