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Re: All Pure Mathematics DOUBTS HERE!!!
« Reply #450 on: October 11, 2011, 10:36:22 am »
domain 0<=x<2pi

It's just pi not 2pi.

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Re: All Pure Mathematics DOUBTS HERE!!!
« Reply #451 on: October 11, 2011, 10:37:01 am »
Transformation of curves
Multiple the graph of tanx by a factor 2 in the x direction and 3 in the y direction to get 3 tan(x/2)

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Re: All Pure Mathematics DOUBTS HERE!!!
« Reply #452 on: October 11, 2011, 11:08:20 am »
One more question:

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Re: All Pure Mathematics DOUBTS HERE!!!
« Reply #453 on: October 11, 2011, 11:35:59 am »
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Re: All Pure Mathematics DOUBTS HERE!!!
« Reply #454 on: October 11, 2011, 02:24:08 pm »
@Arthur Bon Zavi If you can , can you plz show me show the graph looks like?? This is the first time i have come through a question in CIE Maths exam where graph of tanx has been asked to plot... I know how to plot for y=tanx ... but this y=3-tan(x/2)  for domain 0<=x<2pi seems complicated..

Have a look at the attachments. The red horizontal line on the positive axis is x = pi.

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Re: All Pure Mathematics DOUBTS HERE!!!
« Reply #455 on: October 11, 2011, 04:10:06 pm »
Thanks Arthur Bon Zavi .... Your help is really appreciated   :)

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Re: All Pure Mathematics DOUBTS HERE!!!
« Reply #456 on: October 14, 2011, 01:08:05 pm »
Tuitions over, so I'll post my doubt here.

http://www.xtremepapers.com/CIE/International%20A%20And%20AS%20Level/9709%20-%20Mathematics/9709_s11_qp_31.pdf

No 3, on vectors.

Points A and B have coordinates (-1, 2, 5) and (2, -2, 11) respectively. The plane p passes through
B and is perpendicular to AB.

(i) Find an equation of p, giving your answer in the form ax + by + cz = d. [3]
(ii) Find the acute angle between p and the y-axis. [4]


How would you proceed with the second part?
I got the answer, but I checked the markscheme, and don't understand the procedures there.
« Last Edit: October 14, 2011, 01:31:30 pm by Arthur Bon Zavi »

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Re: All Pure Mathematics DOUBTS HERE!!!
« Reply #457 on: October 14, 2011, 02:54:06 pm »
The question is the same as finding the angle between (a,b,c) and (0,1,0)

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« Reply #458 on: October 14, 2011, 03:01:27 pm »
The question is the same as finding the angle between (a,b,c) and (0,1,0)


What will you take as (a,b,c)?
I took two points on the y-axis.

I cannot understand why Cambridge has taken vectors OB and OA. Shed some light please? :-\
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Re: All Pure Mathematics DOUBTS HERE!!!
« Reply #459 on: October 16, 2011, 06:50:42 am »
What will you take as (a,b,c)?
I took two points on the y-axis.

I cannot understand why Cambridge has taken vectors OB and OA. Shed some light please? :-\

I don't think I'll be of much help since I've forgotten most of my Maths by now :-\

Anyway I'll try as much as I remember though am not so sure.....

To find the angle between a line and a plane we first have to find the angle between the normal of the plane and the direction vector of the line.

We need to find the direction vector of the normal of the plane by using OA and OB -----> OB - OA

Then you use the formula to find angle ;)

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« Reply #460 on: October 16, 2011, 10:35:37 am »
Tabke abc as  (-1, 2, 5) - (2, -2, 11)=(-1-2,2--2,,5-1)=(-3,4,4)
a=-3
b=4
c=4

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« Reply #461 on: October 16, 2011, 12:24:22 pm »
I don't think I'll be of much help since I've forgotten most of my Maths by now :-\

Anyway I'll try as much as I remember though am not so sure.....

To find the angle between a line and a plane we first have to find the angle between the normal of the plane and the direction vector of the line.

We need to find the direction vector of the normal of the plane by using OA and OB -----> OB - OA

Then you use the formula to find angle ;)

Normal and direction vectors, sin formula, yes, I did.:)

But in the ER, OA is multiplied by OB. Gives you the answer, but I don't understand why. :-\

No worries. Thank you though. :)


Tabke abc as  (-1, 2, 5) - (2, -2, 11)=(-1-2,2--2,,5-1)=(-3,4,4)
a=-3
b=4
c=4

(-1-2,2--2,,5-11)
c= -6. ;)

I get what you mean. I did that too.

http://www.xtremepapers.com/CIE/International%20A%20And%20AS%20Level/9709%20-%20Mathematics/9709_s11_er.pdf

The examiners' report, on pg 22. It says by multiplying OA and OB. This is what I don't get. :-\
Even YA's best contributors do not. :(

Appreciate your help. Thank you Sir.  :)
« Last Edit: October 16, 2011, 12:26:34 pm by ~Alpha »

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Re: All Pure Mathematics DOUBTS HERE!!!
« Reply #462 on: October 16, 2011, 09:34:08 pm »
Do thety mean the cross product?

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« Reply #463 on: October 17, 2011, 06:08:58 pm »
Do thety mean the cross product?

No, scalar product is the dot product. They use |OA|.|OB| cos Angle= OA.OB

I checked this method. It does give you the answer. But I still don't find any logic. :-\

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« Reply #464 on: October 17, 2011, 10:10:16 pm »
I recognize this question from a p4 paper I did today. Attached.