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Teachers and Students => Debates => Topic started by: elemis on August 25, 2010, 09:08:04 am
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Acid (LSD), Crack, Ice (methamphetamines), grass (marijuana) etc. have plagued mankind for quite some time.
Recently the Mexican President had opened up a debate as to whether Drugs should be legalised in Mexico.
For those who dont know, Mexico is in the middle of a massive Gang conflict that is affecting the whole country. Gangs enter churches and demand worshippers to pay money for their protection.
Nuns have been raped and people are dying on the streets every day. The cartels are truly at war.
The president has theorised that by legalising drugs the supply to the market would increase and hence the Cartels would go bust....
After all their main source of income (pedalling drugs) would now be open to the general public.
Your views on the matter please.
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Nobody ?
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-11080584
An example of what I mean by 'violence'.
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None of you are interested in this debate ? I might as well lock this topic then.
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Acid (LSD), Crack, Ice (methamphetamines), grass (marijuana) etc. have plagued mankind for quite some time.
Recently the Mexican President had opened up a debate as to whether Drugs should be legalised in Mexico.
For those who dont know, Mexico is in the middle of a massive Gang conflict that is affecting the whole country. Gangs enter churches and demand worshippers to pay money for their protection.
Nuns have been rap*d and people are dying on the streets every day. The cartels are truly at war.
The president has theorised that by legalising drugs the supply to the market would increase and hence the Cartels would go bust....
After all their main source of income (pedalling drugs) would now be open to the general public.
Your views on the matter please.
Legalising drugs is accepting defeat. If this is done, more and more mexicans will be habituated to drugs, which is definitely not acceptable.
The government should gather the army, and conduct an operation, to shoot all drug sellers and traders. This is violence, but is necessary in this case.
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Legalizing Drugs
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Good Lord!
We will have Bums like Kassem G and Cali Teengaers Going all Crazy and You wont have no law to stop them
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well not all drugs should be legalized.... prolly only marijuana should! haahahahahh
the presidnt could legalize weed cuz unlike other drugs.. you dnt lose ur mind... and do illegal stuff..
in the old daays they used to say and advertise... tht if u smke weed and the someone comes into the room.. u are most likly gona kill them... or that u might decide to run naked around the streets.... these assumptions were later proven wrong, as u are still concious of most thigs your doing!!... and plus there were noo cases of ANYONE overdosing on weed unlike other drugs!!!
furthermore, after smokin weed u get the known 3 side effects... hungry , happy, sleepy.. ( taken from KATT WILLIAMS,, ahahahaah ).... and it also relaxes you... makin you not worry about life's problems for a while!! and also its used mediacally to treat some diseases... so a we can see it has benifits!!
and if a person gets the munchies ( gets extremley hungry ) then they would SPEND money on food and drinks.... increasing the GDP of the coutry by a small amount...but imagine if alot of people smoked weed.. then that little ammount would rise concidebraly... helping the country to rise from economic slumps and reduce inflation...!!
last but not least... weed is NOT a drug... it is actually a plant! unlike other drugs which are chemicaly altered....and it is also non-addictive!!! and as willie nelson : “I think people need to be educated to the fact that marijuana is not a drug. Marijuana is an herb and a flower. God put it here. If He put it here and He wants it to grow, what gives the government the right to say that God is wrong?”
SO LETS LEGALIZE WEED!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :P :P ::) ::)
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Unknown has OWNED all the weed challengers
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well not all drugs should be legalized.... prolly only marijuana should! haahahahahh
the presidnt could legalize weed cuz unlike other drugs.. you dnt lose ur mind... and do illegal stuff..
in the old daays they used to say and advertise... tht if u smke weed and the someone comes into the room.. u are most likly gona kill them... or that u might decide to run naked around the streets.... these assumptions were later proven wrong, as u are still concious of most thigs your doing!!... and plus there were noo cases of ANYONE overdosing on weed unlike other drugs!!!
furthermore, after smokin weed u get the known 3 side effects... hungry , happy, sleepy.. ( taken from KATT WILLIAMS,, ahahahaah ).... and it also relaxes you... makin you not worry about life's problems for a while!! and also its used mediacally to treat some diseases... so a we can see it has benifits!!
and if a person gets the munchies ( gets extremley hungry ) then they would SPEND money on food and drinks.... increasing the GDP of the coutry by a small amount...but imagine if alot of people smoked weed.. then that little ammount would rise concidebraly... helping the country to rise from economic slumps and reduce inflation...!!
last but not least... weed is NOT a drug... it is actually a plant! unlike other drugs which are chemicaly altered....and it is also non-addictive!!! and as willie nelson : “I think people need to be educated to the fact that marijuana is not a drug. Marijuana is an herb and a flower. God put it here. If He put it here and He wants it to grow, what gives the government the right to say that God is wrong?”
SO LETS LEGALIZE WEED!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :P :P ::) ::)
Worthwhile post. :D
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hahahaah thank you alpha!! :D
im just hopin the mexican president would read this! ::) ::) hahahahahahha :P :P
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hahahaah thank you alpha!! :D
im just hopin the mexican president would read this! ::) ::) hahahahahahha :P :P
If he legalizes drugs, we will have to legalize crime here. It would help alleviate poverty. ::)
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If he legalizes drugs, we will have to legalize crime here. It would help alleviate poverty. ::)
nooooooooooo not drugs!!! only weed!!!! which is not a drug!!!!!!!
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unknown clearly smokes weed ::)
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unknown clearly smokes weed ::)
hahahahahah ohhh crap!!! i got exposed!!!!! nowi gotta runnn!!! and hide before the cops come after mme!!! ahahahahha :P :P
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nooooooooooo not drugs!!! only weed!!!! which is not a drug!!!!!!!
I'll ask him to legalize crime, not the dagger. :P
unknown clearly smokes weed ::)
I walk on them. :D
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noo stop steppin on it!!! it hurts my feelings! :'( ::) aahahahahahaah :P
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hahahahahah ohhh crap!!! i got exposed!!!!! nowi gotta runnn!!! and hide before the cops come after mme!!! ahahahahha :P :P
Do you feel transcendental happiness? ::)
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Do you feel transcendental happiness? ::)
YESSSS!!!!! i mean nooo!! i cant hide my happiness! crap!!! hahahahah :P :P
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YESSSS!!!!! i mean nooo!! i cant hide my happiness! crap!!! hahahahah :P :P
uff...drugs ::)
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What many of you DONT realise is that the stigma behind drugs as being portrayed as BAD things exists elsewhere.
For example, alcohol and cigarettes kill millions each year. Yet, SOME people choose to do these things and A LOT dont.
By restricting drugs we are encouraging Cartels to expand into the market and thereby set up a profit maximising business - in which case human lives are at risk.
But if drugs were legalised we would see an outward shift of the supply curve for drugs and a MASSIVE fall in prices.
There are 7 or so cartels at war in Mexico, drugs are their main business.
Low Priced drugs = less sales (because easily available) = low profits = fall of cartels.
The fall of the cartels means less violence in Mexico and the USA where drugs (and violence) are exported to most of the time.
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How to many stupidity is of equivalent value to felicity.
I do not even think this is a question.
And people have already the first step towards this. Alcohol is a drug.
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What many of you DONT realise is that the stigma behind drugs as being portrayed as BAD things exists elsewhere.
For example, alcohol and cigarettes kill millions each year. Yet, SOME people choose to do these things and A LOT dont.
By restricting drugs we are encouraging Cartels to expand into the market and thereby set up a profit maximising business - in which case human lives are at risk.
But if drugs were legalised we would see an outward shift of the supply curve for drugs and a MASSIVE fall in prices.
There are 7 or so cartels at war in Mexico, drugs are their main business.
Low Priced drugs = less sales (because easily available) = low profits = fall of cartels.
The fall of the cartels means less violence in Mexico and the USA where drugs (and violence) are exported to most of the time.
Yes. But you must take into account the addiction factor too. If it were not for the addiction, I would be for legalising drugs.
Not to mention almost ALL drugs are damaging for health.
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By restricting drugs we are encouraging Cartels to expand into the market and thereby set up a profit maximising business - in which case human lives are at risk.
Restricting here implies outlawing them?
Profit-maximising and a cartel-- that's going to restrict supply to those people who are most addicted and cannot afford to pay for the drugs. A profit-maximiser will not sensibly sell an addictive (inelastic dd) good that was previously forbidden by the law, given it has an upper hand on the market being a cartel.
But if drugs were legalised we would see an outward shift of the supply curve for drugs and a MASSIVE fall in prices.
And an OUTRAGEOUS increase in the death rate.
Criminality sure will increase. But supply? Remember, it's a cartel.
There are 7 or so cartels at war in Mexico, drugs are their main business.
We also need to know the main cause of violence.
Low Priced drugs = less sales (because easily available) = low profits = fall of cartels.
The fall of the cartels means less violence in Mexico and the USA where drugs (and violence) are exported to most of the time.
Conclusion reached... ::)
Approval.
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Weed shouldn't be legalized, unknown have you tried weed so u can say how it feels? if u did and u control yourself, not everyone can control themselves, the president of mexico is a dumba** if he wants to even think about legalizing drugs, what got up to the presidency was the corruption of mexico.
if he wants to stop them, he gets troops or ask for aid from another country like USA to cleanse out atleast a good enough amount of gangs and bad stuff to get the country back on stability
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Weed shouldn't be legalized, unknown have you tried weed so u can say how it feels? if u did and u control yourself, not everyone can control themselves, the president of mexico is a dumba** if he wants to even think about legalizing drugs, what got up to the presidency was the corruption of mexico.
if he wants to stop them, he gets troops or ask for aid from another country like USA to cleanse out atleast a good enough amount of gangs and bad stuff to get the country back on stability
None of you, especially you, realise the enormity and complexity of this situation.
Since the 60's America in collaboration with Mexico has had a Drug Task Force, but you know what every year millions of tonnes of crack find their way on to the streets.
Agreed that certain drugs have bad effects on people's thinking and behaviour, but isnt the same as with Alcohol or smoking ?
It isnt as easy as simply arresting the head of the cartel because that usually causes the cartel to split off into 3 more separate groups.
Its like the Hydra, cut off one head and 3 more grow back.
People are dying because of this gang warfare where Cartels are trying to gain more territory - its been going on for decades but only now has been publicised.
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Conclusion reached... ::)
Approval.
So you agree with me ?
We also need to know the main cause of violence.
They (cartels) want more territory.
And an OUTRAGEOUS increase in the death rate.
Criminality sure will increase. But supply? Remember, it's a cartel.
Alcoholics cause a lot of crime - how do drugs (and their effects) differ from that of alcohol ?
Sweden (might be another Northern Euro country) has opened up free clinics that offer people free shots of crack so as to ensure that they use clean needles.
The money Cartels gain from drug sales helps pay for prostitutes, brothels, guns, illegal trafficking of people from other countries etc.
By cutting of their income supply we will cause their fall.
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Weed shouldn't be legalized, unknown have you tried weed so u can say how it feels? if u did and u control yourself, not everyone can control themselves,
hhahahahaha chilll man! i just posted any bullshit cause someone asked me too!!! hahahahahahaaha
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its either that all the countries are right for banning drugs or amsterdam is the right one by not banning them!! its me ( amsterdam ) against the world ( all the other countries ) !!! hahahahahhahahah :P
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its either that all the countries are right for banning drugs or amsterdam is the right one by not banning them!! its me ( amsterdam ) against the world ( all the other countries ) !!! hahahahahhahahah :P
You are way too happy ::) Much under the influence of...you only must know what ::) :P
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lol idc about mexico either way, im jus givin my opinion on that matter
either way USA ftw
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You are way too happy ::) Much under the influence of...you only must know what ::) :P
hhahahahah why do u always have to say these stuff in front of people!! just ccuz u did that im not gettin u the pound of weed u asked for ::) ::) hhaahahahahaah :P :P
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hhahahahah why do u always have to say these stuff in front of people!! just ccuz u did that im not gettin u the pound of weed u asked for ::) ::) hhaahahahahaah :P :P
Ah. nvm -__-
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This topic is devolving into something completely off-topic ::)
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Agreed that certain drugs have bad effects on people's thinking and behaviour, but isnt the same as with Alcohol or smoking ?
I'm certainly not the most eloquent of people but I'll chip in with my two cents.
Just because one unhealthy act is prevalent in the society it's no excuse to make other evils legal as well. Most people agree drinking and smoking is wrong. Yet, instead of being against them you're using them as examples to legalise drugs. How does that make sense?
People are dying because of this gang warfare where Cartels are trying to gain more territory
Later people will be dying of drug ODs and violence from people under the influence.
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hhahahahah why do u always have to say these stuff in front of people!! just ccuz u did that im not gettin u the pound of weed u asked for ::) ::) hhaahahahahaah :P :P
Tangential. Your "hahahahahaha"s are your signature! :D
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I saw this episode on Natgeo on mafia wars. Things don't look good in South American countries. I don't see how legalising drugs could be of much use though. Cartels will still fight over their share. Things won't change drastically.
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Drugs are simply illegal pieces of material! They just help the work go easy, that too illegal!
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Drugs are simply illegal pieces of material! They just help the work go easy, that too illegal!
Wrong. :P
They are tools for attaining Nirvana.
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Wrong. :P
They are tools for attaining Nirvana.
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+rep :D
Am enlightened. Thanks