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Taxes and Charity?! WHAT's THE DIFFERENCE?!!!

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$tyli$h Executive:

--- Quote from: ~Alpha on June 16, 2010, 03:46:54 pm ---Giving poor people low order level jobs will help them? Prices are also rising... remember.
Do you think subsidies are efficient tools? I see them as a paralyzing factor.

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I know, its paralyzing. But giving them charity outright is also a paralyzing factor, don't you think?


--- Quote ---That does not bring them food, shelter and clothing-- the basics.
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They already have that. Besides, only if they have road, bridges etc they will be able to look for work elsewhere and earn money for food, shelter, clothing etc etc etc... Labour needs to be mobile. Money is the key to everything.


--- Quote ---Rich people would work and tire themselves out to hell for their tax money to be given to the poor ones who are going to set up small businesses, sell at lower prices, take away their consumers and increase competition?
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The government would do that. The reason why rich people evade taxes is due to the inefficiency of the government. But it'll increase in the future, I hope.


--- Quote ---Are you?
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Ummm... actually yes, though not in full. But that should be enough for charity considering 2.5% is the min. according to religion.


--- Quote ---Who pays you to spy on me?
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You. ::)

You're so less active in the debates nowadays.

$tyli$h Executive:
~Alpha     08:58:35 PM   Posting in Taxes and Charity?! WHAT's THE DIFFERENCE?!!!.

EMINEM!!! ;D

Alpha:

--- Quote from: $tyli$h Executive on June 16, 2010, 03:53:46 pm ---I know, its paralyzing. But giving them charity outright is also a paralyzing factor, don't you think?


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But it's not paralysing the whole economy... still.

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They already have that. Besides, only if they have road, bridges etc they will be able to look for work elsewhere and earn money for food, shelter, clothing etc etc etc... Money is the key to everything.
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I think we also have roads, bridges etc. Still, do they find work?
Poor people do not live in valleys, or at the other side of riverbanks. They are everywhere, even there where the rich are.


--- Quote ---The government would do that. The reason why rich people evade taxes is due to the inefficiency of the government. But it'll increase in the future, I hope.
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Then why are people looking for their democracy? Modern man no longer wants communism.


--- Quote ---Ummm... actually yes, though not in full. But that should be enough for charity considering 2.5% is the min. according to religion.
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Yes... Thankfully, religion still lives.


--- Quote ---You. ::)

You're so less active in the debates nowadays.

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I try my best to be.

I sack you from your job then.  :P

$tyli$h Executive:
You took 16 minutes to post this. :P


--- Quote ---But it's not paralysing the whole economy... still.
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Its the same. You start 'paralyzing' the poor people by giving loads of charity, they become lazy and don't look for a job. Your economy becomes lazy ultimately, since often in countries like BD, poor people are greater in number than rich. And it is important that they do not become lazy.

Imagine it this way. If somebody were poor, but the rich people of the community suddenly announced a regular level of charity for them, high. They will no  longer have the incentive to work. Less GDP, less well off economy.


--- Quote ---I think we also have roads, bridges etc. Still, do they find work?
Poor people do not live in valleys, or at the other side of riverbanks. They are everywhere, even there where the rich are.
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The factor here is labour mobility. Work is not often available in the villages. But is abundant in cities like here. Though urbanisation could put a strain in the longer term, at least they will be more mobile and able to look for work better. Thus fend for their family better.

Yes they are everywhere even where there are rich. But its their failure. We are not anyone to blame for it.


--- Quote ---Then why are people looking for their democracy? Modern man no longer wants communism.
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"Democracy" and "Communism" are not interchangeable. :P Its the fault of the govt.


--- Quote ---Yes... Thankfully, religion still lives.
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You thought I were a spoilt brat?!!! :P

But I wouldn't call myself to be religious.


--- Quote ---I try my best to be.

I sack you from your job then. 
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Oh hello? ::)

Spying is my business, not job. :P

Alpha:

--- Quote from: $tyli$h Executive on June 16, 2010, 04:23:11 pm ---You took 16 minutes to post this. :P

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And days...?  :)


--- Quote ---Its the same. You start 'paralyzing' the poor people by giving loads of charity, they become lazy and don't look for a job. Your economy becomes lazy ultimately, since often in countries like BD, poor people are greater in number than rich. And it is important that they do not become lazy.
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Then, what to do? If you say taxes are charity, then we shouldn't be paying taxes?


--- Quote ---Imagine it this way. If somebody were poor, but the rich people of the community suddenly announced a regular level of charity for them, high. They will no  longer have the incentive to work. Less GDP, less well off economy.
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It's natural that if you give away what you need, you won't give many.


--- Quote ---The factor here is labour mobility. Work is not often available in the villages. But is abundant in cities like here. Though urbanisation could put a strain in the longer term, at least they will be more mobile and able to look for work better. Thus fend for their family better.

Yes they are everywhere even where there are rich. But its their failure. We are not anyone to blame for it.
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Standard of living is damn high in cities. Poor people, if they work there, would get a very meager salary. How will they survive in a world alien to their own?


--- Quote ---"Democracy" and "Communism" are not interchangeable. :P Its the fault of the govt.
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And of the people who vote for the govt.


--- Quote ---You thought I were a spoilt brat?!!! :P
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Wasn't talking about you, but people in general.




--- Quote ---Oh hello? ::)

Spying is my business, not job. :P
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Very profitable, your business.  ::)


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