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Taxes and Charity?! WHAT's THE DIFFERENCE?!!!
$tyli$h Executive:
--- Quote from: ~Alpha on June 17, 2010, 02:55:58 pm ---And days...? :)
Then, what to do? If you say taxes are charity, then we shouldn't be paying taxes?
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We can pay taxes. But not give charity. But we can do so just to gain publicity or recognition for example by donating a political party.
--- Quote ---It's natural that if you give away what you need, you won't give many.
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I need my mobile phone, my laptop, my computer, my watch, my TV. Is it natural and the deed of a sane person to give them away? Only philosophical people are mad enough to give them away and I'm not one.
--- Quote ---Standard of living is damn high in cities. Poor people, if they work there, would get a very meager salary. How will they survive in a world alien to their own?
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Better than living in villages and earning nothing or stealing (poor people are very expert at stealing, fyi).
Alpha:
--- Quote from: $tyli$h Executive on June 17, 2010, 03:03:00 pm ---We can pay taxes. But not give charity. But we can do so just to gain publicity or recognition for example by donating a political party.
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But if you keep paying taxes, business incentives will be low. And governments compete to attract investments.
--- Quote ---I need my mobile phone, my laptop, my computer, my watch, my TV. Is it natural and the deed of a sane person to give them away? Only philosophical people are mad enough to give them away and I'm not one.
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I didn't call anyone mad. Nor did I mean to give away everything.
--- Quote ---Better than living in villages and earning nothing or stealing (poor people are very expert at stealing, fyi).
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Prejudice > You can't make them scapegoats. Rich people steal too.
Strange... these same villages give them what they need to stay alive.
$tyli$h Executive:
--- Quote from: ~Alpha on June 17, 2010, 03:08:22 pm ---But if you keep paying taxes, business incentives will be low. And governments compete to attract investments.
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Tax rates at present don't cause any disincentives. All governments are VERY careful not to set tax rates so as to cause disincentives. And evading charity doesn't mean an increase in the tax rates. People are not discouraged to take up jobs and do business now, despite the high rates of taxes. So, they will not have any disincentive to do the same if they avoid charity cause taxes=charity.
--- Quote ---Prejudice > You can't make them scapegoats. Rich people steal too.
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Rich people steal, but in a civilized manner. They are MUCH better than the poors who steal for the fun of it.
--- Quote ---Nor did I mean to give away everything.
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Then don't tell "Give what you need!"!. :P
Alpha:
--- Quote from: $tyli$h Executive on June 17, 2010, 03:20:24 pm ---Tax rates at present don't cause any disincentives. All governments are VERY careful not to set tax rates so as to cause disincentives. And evading charity doesn't mean an increase in the tax rates. People are not discouraged to take up jobs and do business now, despite the high rates of taxes. So, they will not have any disincentive to do the same if they avoid charity cause taxes=charity.
Rich people steal, but in a civilized manner. They are MUCH better than the poors who steal for the fun of it.
Then don't tell "Give what you need!"!. :P
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You forget that taxes tend to penalize a part of the population, be it progressive, regressive, or proportionate. But charity is not an imposition. People who can and are willing to pay, feel absolutely free to do so. Now, how many of them are willing... still remains to be checked.
LOL, rich people steal in a civilized manner? They also kill in a 'civilized' manner. Then, they are 'civilized' criminals. ;)
Then, we must be having a 'civilized' court to judge them, 'civilized' prisons to keep them in, and if their crime is heinous, a 'civilized' death? LOL, seriously Borakk? :P
And about the "give what you need". A simple example. You have kept some yogurt in the fridge. It got spoiled, meaning you don't need it anymore. So, you will give away the yogurt YOU can't eat to someone poor, just because throwing it away is a waste??
Freaked12:
--- Quote from: ~Alpha on June 19, 2010, 01:51:14 pm ---You forget that taxes tend to penalize a part of the population, be it progressive, regressive, or proportionate. But charity is not an imposition. People who can and are willing to pay, feel absolutely free to do so. Now, how many of them are willing... still remains to be checked.
LOL, rich people steal in a civilized manner? They also kill in a 'civilized' manner. Then, they are 'civilized' criminals. ;)
Then, we must be having a 'civilized' court to judge them, 'civilized' prisons to keep them in, and if their crime is heinous, a 'civilized' death? LOL, seriously Borakk? :P
And about the "give what you need". A simple example. You have kept some yogurt in the fridge. It got spoiled, meaning you don't need it anymore. So, you will give away the yogurt YOU can't eat to someone poor, just because throwing it away is a waste??
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Charity=less incentives for Poor people to work
Taxes=More money for public welfare,creating more employment and thus total income rises.
KAPISH!
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