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Title: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: 123 on November 02, 2009, 07:38:54 pm
I guess just  b4 exams its normal for any1 to anticipate the topics coming in any paper!!

Its quite possible to predict from previous past paper....i didn't get the time to collect the topics and predict for A level chemistry paper 2 on 4th nov (Wed.)

If u guys got some thoughts on topics please share....lets predict together! I don't think thats cheating right??
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: heemvi on November 03, 2009, 09:20:48 am
revise ur group II vry well!!
knw all the equations/reactions...
n am fnkin on electrolysis n reaction kinetics...
wat others r suggesting????????
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: haro on November 03, 2009, 09:24:14 am
wat about the organics guys? always qs on organics...and they are usually the hard part of the exam :-\
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: MaNi_DaDuDe on November 03, 2009, 11:17:17 am
I haven't finished the syllabus of chem yet, gonna go through organic / inorganic / equilibrium / kinetics and that gas law thing.

fml
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: heemvi on November 03, 2009, 12:44:06 pm
bt 2moro its jst p2(mins the As part)
so 4 organic we jst nid 2 knw reactions/reagents n no aromatic cmpnds

http://alevelchemguide.blogspot.com/2009/01/organic-as-reactions-spider-diagram_20.html

chk it out!!!!

Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: MaNi_DaDuDe on November 03, 2009, 01:29:00 pm
what else..?
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: Lana Wolf on November 03, 2009, 02:21:12 pm
organic..all basic reactions are imp...
i guess one Kc question might b der...
isomers of esters,alcohols...
aldehydes and ketones..etc etc...

i guess these are imp from my p.o.v.
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: 123 on November 03, 2009, 02:28:21 pm
organic..all basic reactions are imp...
i guess one Kc question might b der...
..........

I don't think Kc ques wil b there as 2copies of Kc question came in m/j '09 paper 21 & 22 (ie. 1st & 2nd variants

Oh By the way.....Is there going to be 2 variants of paper 2 this time too??? Exam timetable jus shows paper 22 for chemistry no paper 21.... :-\
Do u guys think they repeat topics in 2 sessions of same year?? maybe theres a pattern from other pastpapers of 2008 or 2007

Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: Lana Wolf on November 03, 2009, 02:38:28 pm
I don't think Kc ques wil b there as 2copies of Kc question came in m/j '09 paper 21 & 22 (ie. 1st & 2nd variants

Oh By the way.....Is there going to be 2 variants of paper 2 this time too??? Exam timetable jus shows paper 22 for chemistry no paper 21.... :-\
Do u guys think they repeat topics in 2 sessions of same year?? maybe theres a pattern from other pastpapers of 2008 or 2007



i dunno about d probability of it cming...just tht its imp...my chem teacher tld me so...anyways with AS im not leaving anything cuz i think d papers are really unpredictable....Kc isnt tht big a topic...so mayb a small quest cud also come...i dunno ..im jez guessin aftr all...
i think variants are goin 2 b der..i heard my school principal toking bout them....
i tried my best to find patterns...lol... :(no such luck...
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: heemvi on November 03, 2009, 03:02:35 pm
i fnk this tym also thr is 1st n 2nd variant ppr...
cz in ma tymtable thrs p21
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: raunaqbhatia on November 03, 2009, 03:05:09 pm
People we need to discuss chem ! ok anyways wats.

Q. Define Ionic radius ?

Q. tell me all you can tell me about complex ions ?

Q Al2O3 + H20 -> ??????

Q.Al2o3 +NaOH -> ???
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: metalpredictedapocalypse on November 03, 2009, 03:37:49 pm
Haha group 2 aint in As!!
maybe u mean periodicity?..
neway revise all chap for tomoro...
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: Asif iqbal on November 03, 2009, 03:51:15 pm
Lol dude group is in as ,as in if your talking about cie tht is!!
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: Lana Wolf on November 03, 2009, 04:06:50 pm
Haha group 2 aint in As!!
maybe u mean periodicity?..
neway revise all chap for tomoro...

mann you scared me..i checkd my syllabus again..grp II is der...
all d reactions and everything is der....i was studying group 2 only rite now...*sigh* and i thot i wasted my time....
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: 123 on November 03, 2009, 05:28:07 pm
yeah the AS group 2 is huge! A2 part's group 2 is small...
Anyways lets hope this time paper2 will b easier...as last time it was tough
Easy chem practical paper33 indicates next papers would b easier =P

What u guys think?? I think something on chem energetics mite come

Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: MaNi_DaDuDe on November 04, 2009, 12:11:13 am
omg

what did you guys find hardest in the paper?!
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: wunderkind on November 04, 2009, 12:21:21 am
People we need to discuss chem ! ok anyways wats.

Q. Define Ionic radius ?

Q. tell me all you can tell me about complex ions ?

Q Al2O3 + H20 -> ??????

Q.Al2o3 +NaOH -> ???

1 - distance from the nucleus to the outermost electron

note:- Al2O3 is amphoteric so it can act as both an acid and a base depending on wat it reacts with. so acid + base = salt + water

3 - Al(OH)3 + H2O ==> got this from wiki because i wasn't sure

4 - NaAl04 + H2O
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: neo_park on November 04, 2009, 01:22:51 am

3 - Al(OH)3 + H2O ==> got this from wiki because i wasn't sure




Al2O3 + 3 H2O ? 2 Al(OH)3

the one u wrote was almost correct, do be careful dat u can't have H2O on both sides of da equation
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: Sorceres on November 04, 2009, 07:11:21 am
omg

what did you guys find hardest in the paper?!

omfg the first 2 questions were a killer..
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: polaroidsoflove on November 04, 2009, 07:14:14 am
omfg the first 2 questions were a killer..

What were the topics?
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: Sorceres on November 04, 2009, 07:23:15 am
What were the topics?

sorry dude.. can't say til maybe tmr...
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: raunaqbhatia on November 04, 2009, 08:09:07 am
ah cmon dude justt help me out with sum equations and hard topics...like i suggested dose
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: Sorceres on November 04, 2009, 08:23:36 am
People we need to discuss chem ! ok anyways wats.

Q. Define Ionic radius ?

Q. tell me all you can tell me about complex ions ?

Q Al2O3 + H20 -> ??????

Q.Al2o3 +NaOH -> ???

Q3. Al2o3 does not dissolve in water because of high lattice energies.

Q4. Al203 + 2NaOH + 3H20 -> 2NaAl(OH)4
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: raunaqbhatia on November 04, 2009, 08:35:39 am
thanks man ill reputate u but can u explain high lattice energy stuff a bit more and....wat do u think i should study cause i am goin 2 write in 30mins
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: polaroidsoflove on November 04, 2009, 08:37:03 am
Is there a question on Kp or Kc?
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: raunaqbhatia on November 04, 2009, 08:44:06 am
and organic man dat kills
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: Sorceres on November 04, 2009, 08:49:36 am
Is there a question on Kp or Kc?

i'm so sorry but u just have to find out when u sit for it..
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: Sorceres on November 04, 2009, 08:50:30 am
thanks man ill reputate u but can u explain high lattice energy stuff a bit more and....wat do u think i should study cause i am goin 2 write in 30mins

haven't learnt about that.. its in A2 i think..
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: MaNi_DaDuDe on November 04, 2009, 09:17:41 am
what you write for q2 sor?
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: Tyserius on November 04, 2009, 10:01:33 am
My friends just had their exam today. And FYI, they said it was surprisingly tough. Beats me, I'm Chem-less :D
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: Sorceres on November 04, 2009, 10:21:08 am
My friends just had their exam today. And FYI, they said it was surprisingly tough. Beats me, I'm Chem-less :D

well then hopefully they lower the grade threshold  :-\
which paper are they taking By the way? variance 1 or 2?
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: raunaqbhatia on November 04, 2009, 10:23:39 am
variant  1 /....a minute left any hard stuff please man please
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: Sorceres on November 04, 2009, 10:29:49 am
variant  1 /....a minute left any hard stuff please man please

ok can't help then.. i did variant 2
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: raunaqbhatia on November 04, 2009, 10:37:32 am
i knew u wud say dat i am doing var 2 aswell pleaseee help
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: Tyserius on November 04, 2009, 10:42:11 am
No idea. They didn't tell me. All I know was that it's tough D:
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: MaNi_DaDuDe on November 04, 2009, 01:29:14 pm
it was a lame one, I had to pee in the middle so I lost time; thus couldn't finish.
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: polaroidsoflove on November 04, 2009, 01:39:03 pm
I thought it was extremely tough. There wasn't ANY equilibria and all. Those are usually easy marks. No electrolysis. 3 ORGANIC QUESTIONS!

ps. i'm talking about variant 2
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: Sorceres on November 04, 2009, 01:40:14 pm
I thought it was extremely tough. There wasn't ANY equilibria and all. Those are usually easy marks. No electrolysis. 3 ORGANIC QUESTIONS!

ps. i'm talking about variant 2

same here then.. yeah it was really tough right!!! i think the organics for q4 and q5 was okay, but question 1 and 2, esp 2 was extremely difficult.. scare the hell outta me when i did it..
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: metalpredictedapocalypse on November 04, 2009, 02:08:12 pm
i dnt know what variant i did..it started with defining isotope.. but man the last 3 marks i lost it..and i never revised the free radical reaction..it was ok though

wats the max mark u lose in THIS paper to get an A??
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: Sorceres on November 04, 2009, 02:17:09 pm
oh that's variant 1 then.. so apparently variant 2 is harder..  :'(
depends on the grade threshold..
for may june 2009 it was pretty low.. 42 marks to A..
but for one of  the 2008 paper, 48 is required to get A  :o

hopefully this time the grade threshold will be low..
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: MaNi_DaDuDe on November 04, 2009, 02:19:58 pm
i dnt know what variant i did..it started with defining isotope.. but man the last 3 marks i lost it..and i never revised the free radical reaction..it was ok though

wats the max mark u lose in THIS paper to get an A??

That's variant 1
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: argen on November 04, 2009, 02:55:44 pm
I thought it was extremely tough. There wasn't ANY equilibria and all. Those are usually easy marks. No electrolysis. 3 ORGANIC QUESTIONS!

ps. i'm talking about variant 2

i did this variant
i think i did well
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: raunaqbhatia on November 04, 2009, 09:59:00 pm
evry thing was hard ....   :'(

i messed up wrote radium hydroxide for insoulble
wrote wrong observations
didnt get d enthalpy write and organic was hard 2.
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: Lana Wolf on November 06, 2009, 12:58:26 pm
so i guess i oviously had variant 2...just my luck..lol
i knew all d free radical thing n stuff...  :-[
hope they lower d threshold.. :-\
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: MaNi_DaDuDe on November 07, 2009, 07:26:50 am
so i guess i oviously had variant 2...just my luck..lol
i knew all d free radical thing n stuff...  :-[
hope they lower d threshold.. :-\


No you did variant 1.

Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: Lana Wolf on November 08, 2009, 11:37:54 am

No you did variant 1.




i meant to say i knew tht stuff well...not tht i had those questions...i had d ideal gas n stuff...
stupid difficult paper.... >:(
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: Sorceres on November 08, 2009, 12:22:28 pm

i meant to say i knew tht stuff well...not tht i had those questions...i had d ideal gas n stuff...
stupid difficult paper.... >:(

same here.. i think that i can do variant 1 better than variant 2, at least according to the topics that are discussed here.
well, its luck :(
hope the threshold will be low..
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: 123 on November 08, 2009, 01:29:13 pm
same here.. i think that i can do variant 1 better than variant 2, at least according to the topics that are discussed here.
well, its luck :(
hope the threshold will be low..
Did v get to choose which variant v do at the time of registration?? Not that theres any advantage...
Cos v get to choose the 1 of 2 papers for practical :P
Our school just said v do paper 22 as it was the only 1 indicated in final O/N '09exam timetable.
So our statement of entry had paper 22
I thought there wasn't goin to b variant 1 (paper 21)! ::)

Anyways...i'm gonna b doin CIE A level chem paper 42 this wed.  What bout u guys??

Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: Lana Wolf on November 08, 2009, 01:32:00 pm
Did v get to choose which variant v do at the time of registration?? Not that theres any advantage...
Cos v get to choose the 1 of 2 papers for practical :P
Our school just said v do paper 22 as it was the only 1 indicated in final O/N '09exam timetable.
So our statement of entry had paper 22
I thought there wasn't goin to b variant 1 (paper 21)! ::)

Anyways...i'm gonna b doin CIE A level chem paper 42 this wed.  What bout u guys??



yea...paper 4 me too....
well after this i'm sorta worried bout tht too...
well but d funny thing is tht i know a level chem better thn as level...lol
so any ideas on what cud come??or imp topics???
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: 123 on November 08, 2009, 01:35:44 pm
yea...paper 4 me too....
well after this i'm sorta worried bout tht too...
well but d funny thing is tht i know a level chem better thn as level...lol
so any ideas on what cud come??or imp topics???
hmm...check out this: https://studentforums.biz/index.php/topic,4718.0.html (https://studentforums.biz/index.php/topic,4718.0.html)
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: Lana Wolf on November 08, 2009, 01:37:19 pm
hmm...check out this: https://studentforums.biz/index.php/topic,4718.0.html (https://studentforums.biz/index.php/topic,4718.0.html)

oh yaa..lol :D
i had forgottn bout tht thread..lolz
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: MaNi_DaDuDe on November 08, 2009, 02:05:23 pm

i meant to say i knew tht stuff well...not tht i had those questions...i had d ideal gas n stuff...
stupid difficult paper.... >:(

lol.

Yeah variant 1 was easier than variant 2. :(
Title: Re: Some likely topics in CIE A level chem.paper2?
Post by: Lana Wolf on November 08, 2009, 02:13:37 pm
lol.

Yeah variant 1 was easier than variant 2. :(


so i guess u had variant 2 too...lol
hmm...so i can only hope tht duznt happn again for paper4... :(