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Title: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: Malak on August 02, 2011, 12:22:54 am
Islam is the most misunderstood religion in the world today. Despite the fact that 1.2 Billion people follow Islam and it is the fastest growing religion in the world.

1 - Muslims are violent, terrorists and/or extremists.

This is the biggest misconception in Islam, no doubt resulting from the constant stereotyping and bashing the media gives Islam.
When an unknown attacks a mosque in the name of Judaism, a Catholic IRA sets off a bomb in an urban area, or Serbian Orthodox militiamen rape and kill innocent Muslim civilians, these acts are not used to stereotype an entire faith. Never are these acts attributed to the religion of the perpetrators. Yet how many times have we heard the words 'Islamic, Muslim fundamentalist. etc.' linked with violence.

Politics in so called "Muslim countries" may or may not have any Islamic basis. Often dictators and politicians will use the name of Islam for their own purposes. One should remember to go to the source of Islam and separate what the true religion of Islam says from what is portrayed in the media. Islam literally means 'submission to God' and is derived from a root word meaning 'peace'.  

Islam may seem exotic or even extreme in the modern world. Perhaps this is because religion doesn't dominate everyday life in the West, whereas Islam is considered a 'way of life' for Muslims and they make no division between secular and sacred in their lives. Like Christianity, Islam permits fighting in self-defense, in defense of religion, or on the part of those who have been expelled forcibly from their homes.  It lays down strict rules of combat which include prohibitions against harming civilians and against destroying crops, trees and livestock.

NOWHERE DOES ISLAM ENJOIN THE KILLING OF INNOCENTS.

The Quran says:
"Fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not transgress limits.  God does not love transgressors." (Quran 2:190)

"If they seek peace, then seek you peace. And trust in God for He is the One that heareth and knoweth all things." (Quran 8:61)


War, therefore, is the last resort, and is subject to the rigorous conditions laid down by the sacred law.  The term 'jihad' literally means 'struggle'.  Muslims believe that there are two kinds of jihad.
The other 'jihad' is the inner struggle of the soul which everyone wages against egotistic desires for the sake of attaining inner peace.


2 - Islam oppresses women

The image of the typical Muslim woman wearing the veil and forced to stay home and forbidden to drive is all too common in most people thoughts. Although some Muslim countries may have laws that oppress women, this should not be seen as coming  from Islam.  Many of these countries do not rule by  any kind of Shari'ah (Islamic law) and introduce their own cultural standpoints on the issue of  gender equity.    

Islam on the other hand gives men and women different roles and equity between the two is laid down in the Quran and the example of the Prophet (peace be upon him).
Islam sees a woman, whether single or married, as an individual in her own right, with the right to own and dispose of her property and earnings.
A marriage gift is given by the groom to the bride for her own personal use, and she keeps her own family name rather than taking her husband's.

Both men and women are expected to dress in a way that is modest and dignified. The Messenger of God (peace be upon him) said: "The most perfect in faith amongst believers is he who is best in manner and kindest to his wife."

Violence of any kind towards women and forcing them against their will for anything is not allowed. A Muslim marriage is a simple, legal agreement in which either partner is free to include conditions. Marriage customs thus vary widely from country to country. Divorce is not common, although it is acceptable as a last resort.  According to Islam, a Muslim girl cannot be forced to  marry against her will: her parents simply suggest young men they think may be suitable.


3 - Muslims worship Mohammad (SAW)

"There is nothing worthy of worship but Allah (God). And Muhammad is His messenger." - The Holy Qur'an.
Muhammad (PBUH) is the chief interpreter of the Quran and the standardizer of Islamic practices. There is no room for worship of any person, place or thing other than God in Islam.
Muslims love the prophet, but that love should never be mistaken for worship.


4 - Muslims don't believe in Jesus or any other prophets

Muslims respect and revere Jesus, upon him be peace, and await his Second Coming.
They consider him one of the greatest of God's messengers to mankind. A Muslim never refers to him simply as 'Jesus', but always adds the phrase 'upon him be peace'.
The Qur'an confirms his virgin birth (a chapter of the Quran is entitled 'Mary'), and Mary is considered the purest woman in all creation.

The Quran describes the Annunciation as follows:
"Behold!" the Angel said, "God has chosen you, and purified you, and chosen you above the women of all nations. O Mary, God gives you good news of a word from Him whose name shall be the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, honoured in this world and the Hereafter, and one of those brought near to God. He shall speak to the people from his cradle and in maturity, and shall be of the righteous." She said: "O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man has touched me?" He said: "Even so; God creates what He wills. When He decrees a thing, He says to it, "Be!" and it is." (Qur'an 3:42-47)

Jesus 'upon him be peace' was born miraculously through the same power, which had brought Adam 'upon him be peace' into being without a father:
"Truly, the likeness of Jesus with God is as the likeness of Adam. He created him of dust, and then said to him, 'Be!' and he was." (Qur'an 3:59)

During his prophetic mission Jesus 'upon him be peace' performed many miracles. The Qur'an tells us that he said: "I have come to you with a sign from your Lord: I make for you out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, and breath into it and it becomes a bird by God's leave. And I heal the blind, and the lepers, and I raise the dead by God's leave." (Qur'an 3:49)

Neither Muhammad (pbuh) not Jesus 'upon him be peace' came to change the basic doctrine of the brief in One God brought by earlier prophets, but to confirm and renew it.
In the Qur'an Jesus 'upon him be peace' is reported as saying that he came: "And I have come confirming that which was before me of the Taurat (Torah), and to make lawful to you part of what was forbidden to you; and I have come to you with a proof from your Lord, so fear Allah and obey me." (Qur'an 3:50)

The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said: "Whoever believes there is no god but God, alone without partner, that Muhammad (pbuh) is His messenger, that Jesus is the servant and messenger of God, His word breathed into Mary and a spirit emanating from Him, and that Paradise and Hell are true, shall be received by God into Heaven."
(Hadith related by Bukhari)

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There are more mentioned but I only posted these.

Taken from: http://www.jannah.org/articles/misc.html (http://www.jannah.org/articles/misc.html)

Sources: (Islam: A Brief Introduction, Islamic Circle of North America,
Jamaica, New York)

(Understanding Islam and the Muslims, The Islamic Affairs Department
The Embassy of Saudi Arabia, Washington DC, 1989.)

(Badawi, Jamal, Polygamy in Islamic Law, The Muslim Students'
Association of the United States & Canada,)

(Islam and Farrakhanism Compared, The Institute of Islamic Information
and Education, Chicago, Illinois)

(Jihad Explained, The Institute of Islamic Information & Education,
Chicago, Illinois)
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: Romeesa-Chan on August 02, 2011, 12:35:14 am
Great. Amazing thread.
Definitely one of the most important and serious issues taken as a misconception.
JazakAllah khair, sister <3
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: Shoshou..Mony on August 02, 2011, 01:13:02 am
'Women are inferior to men' is one of the most common misconception about Islam. The article below seeks to remove the misconception INSHALLAH

Unfortunately there are many muslims who believe that because Islam gives men the right of having authority over their wives, then this means that they are superior to women and have more honor than them. Men are not superior to women and women are not superior to men in Islam due to gender. Allah Almighty makes it perfectly clear that those superior in His sight are those who have more taqwa (God fearing consciousness)...

"O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise each other) **Verily the most honored of you in the sight of God is (he who is) the most righteous of you**..." [Surah 49:13]

In Islam, men and women DO NOT HAVE EQUAL RIGHTS. Their rights are different because of their nature. Their rights are not equal, rather they are EQUALLY BALANCED.

Islam believes in equality between men and women - Equality does not mean identicallity.

Suppose in a classroom 2 students, student 'A' and 'B', during an examination both come out first - Both secure 80% marks - 80 out of 100

Out of the hundreds of students, 2 come out first 'A' and 'B'

When you analyze the question paper, the question paper has 10 different questions, each carrying 10 marks.

In question 1 student 'A' got 9 out of 10, and student 'B' got 7 out of 10 - So in question 1 student 'A' was higher than student 'B'.

In question 2, student 'A' got 7 out of 10 and student 'B' got 9 out of 10,
- Student 'B' was higher than student 'A' in question number 2.

In question 3 both of them got 8 out of 10, both were equal

So when we add up the marks of all the ten questions, both student 'A' and 'B' got 80 out of 100

So in short, student 'A' and student 'B' are over all equal

In some question 'A' is higher than 'B', in some question 'B' is higher than 'A', in others both are equal

In the same fashion, taking the example that since Allah has given man more strength - Suppose a thief enters the house will you tell, 'I believe in women's rights - I believe in women's rights' - will you tell your mother, your sister and your daughter, to go and fight the thief?'

No, but natural you'll fight him - If required they may interfere - under normal circumstances since Allah has given you more physical strength, you have to go and tackle the thief.

So here, in physical strength, man is one degree higher than the woman

Let us take another example where. where it comes to giving respect to the -where it comes to respecting the parents - The children are supposed to respect the mother 3 times more than the father.

Here the women have one degree higher than the men - Over all both equal

"..And they (women) have rights (over their husbands as regards living expenses, etc.) similar (to those of their husbands) over them (as regards obedience and respect, etc.) to what is reasonable, but men have a degree (of responsibility) over them.." [2:228]

a) The things which men can do and women cannot

* Point no: 1 (Men are protectors of women as a whole)

Allaah says
“Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allaah has made one of them to excel the other, and because they spend (to support them) from their means”[al-Nisa’ 4:34]

* Point no: 2 (Awrah)

A woman’s ‘awrah includes her entire body. The least that can be said is that she should not uncover anything except her face and hands

Allaah says:
“O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies. That will be better, that they should be knownso as not to be annoyed. And Allaah is Ever Oft?Forgiving, Most Merciful”[al-Ahzaab 33:59]
.

* Shaykh Muhammad Salih Al Munajjid said in Islam QA fatwa no: 1105

The Qur’aan commands women to wear clothes that are different from those worn by men, because of the differences in the ways each sex is tempted by the other. The temptation posed by men is less than the temptation posed by women, so the clothes that women should wear are different than the clothes that men wear. It makes no sense to tell women to expose the parts of the body that men are allowed to expose, because of the differences in the temptation posed by a woman’s body and a man’s body (end quote)

* Point no: 3 (Obligatory prayers)

Prayer in the mosque is obligatory for men, but not for women; a woman’s prayer is in her house but she can pray in Masjid as well.

* Point no: 4 (Jihad)

Jihad (Jihad bil Saif/fighting)is not obligatory for women, but they can help if men are in need.

b) Things which women can do and men can not

* Point no: 1 (Silk and Gold)

a) Abu Dawood (3535) narrated that ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) took a piece of silk in his right hand and a piece of gold in his left and said, ‘These two are forbidden for the males of my ummah.’” Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood, 3422.
b) “These are haraam for the males of my ummah and permitted for the females.” (Reported by Ibn Maajah, 2/1189).

* Point no: 2 (Rights of Mother)

A Mother has 3 times more right over her children then the father
Proof: Saheeh Muslim Book 032, Number 6180:.Abu Huraira reported that a person came to Allah, 's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and said: Who among the people is most deserving of a fine treatment from my hand? He said: Your mother. He again said: Then who (is the next one)? He said: Again it is your mother (who deserves the best treatment from you). He said: Then who (is the next one)? He (the Holy Prophet) said: Again, it is your mother. He (again) said: Then who? Thereupon he said: Then it is your father

* Point no: 3 (Mahr)

Man gives the dower to his wife even if it is mountain of Gold.
Proof: Surah 4:4 (And give the women (on marriage) their dower as a free gift)


* Point no: 4 (Monthly periods of women)

Women are commanded in their monthly periods to leave prayers.
Mu'adhah said: "I asked Aishah: Why must we make up the fasts missed due to our menstruation, but not the prayers [ missed through menstruation] ?" She said, "That was what the Messenger of Allah told us to do. We were ordered to make up the fasts, and we were ordered not to make up the prayers." [ Fiqh as-Sunnah 1.71a ]

* .Point no: 6(Martyr when a woman die during child birth)

Shaykh Muhammad Salih al Munajjid said in IslamQA Fatwa no: 8800

If a woman dies with a child in her womb, or she dies during childbirth or after childbirth but within the period of nifaas (post-partum bleeding), she is considered to be a shaheedah in sha Allaah. according to hadith of Maalik (1/233) and Abu Dawood, 3/482)]

Males and Females are equal as per rewards are concern. (unfortunately few muslims think that in matters of deed men have the authority)

[004:124] And whoever does righteous good deeds, male or female, and is a true believer in the Oneness of Allah (Muslim), such will enter Paradise and not the least injustice, even to the size of a Naqeera (speck on the back of a datestone), will be done to them.

[016:097] Whoever works righteousness, man or woman, and has Faith, verily, to him will We give a new Life, a life that is good and pure and We will bestow on such their reward according to the best of their actions.

[040:040] "He that works evil will not be requited but by the like thereof: and he that works a righteous deed - whether man or woman - and is a Believer- such will enter the Garden (of Bliss): Therein will they have abundance without measure.

WHAT ARE TEACHINGS OF OTHER RELIGIONS ON THIS ISSUE:-


MOSTLY CHRISTIANS ask this question and say that in islam women are oppressed ... so if any christian ask u this then for a counter reply

"A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man she must be quiet." [The bible 1 Timothy 2:11-12]

"And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel. To the woman he said, "I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you." (THE BIBLE Genesis 3:12-13)

"The birth of any daughter is a loss" (Ecclesiasticus 22:3, New Jerusalem Bible)

Thats the teaching of their book...there is no such thing in quran or sunnah

If a hindu accuse islam on this issue then for counter

“O Husband protect the son to be born. Do not make him a women” [Atharva Ved 2/3/23]

“Lord Indra himself has said that women has very little intelligence. She cannot be taught” [Rig Ved 8/33/17]

‘Yajur Ved (Taitriya Sanhita)- “Women code says that the women are without energy. They should not get a share in property. Even to the wicked they speak in feeble manner” [Yajur Ved 6/5/8/2]

These verses should not be used in order to bash their religion but they can be used as counters if they attack islam :)


CONCLUSION:-

Men and women are equal in the sight of Allah..but Men and women both have their field of specialization. Men can not interfere in pregnancy,breastfeeding,we?aring gold and silk and other things, and women should not be involved in fighting the enemy (if it is not needed) and other things and they are equal in gaining reward, Whatever is permitted to both of them should be done within the guidelines of Islamic law.

"Their Lord responded to them: "I never fail to
reward any worker among you for any
work you do, be you MALE OR FEMALE,
YOU ARE EQUAL TO ONE ANOTHER…"

Quran 3:195


https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=161243323938997&set=a.159354490794547.40990.146615072068489&type=1&theater

^ I love the above article so much. It's a beautiful one.

As for Angel, Jazaka Allah khair sister for posting such thread. InshAllah God leads us all to the right path. +rep. =]
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: Malak on August 02, 2011, 01:19:30 am
A part of it is from Dr.Zakir naik's speech :D I just saw it few days back.

Quote
Equality does not mean identicallity
Exactly..!!

Thanks for sharing :D
Great article..!

Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: Shoshou..Mony on August 02, 2011, 01:28:22 am
A part of it is from Dr.Zakir naik's speech :D I just saw it few days back.
Exactly..!!

Thanks for sharing :D
Great article..!



Oh really? :D I never knew. I read it on FB and was VERY grateful I did. Now I use it to clear any misconceptions.

Can you send me the link for Dr.Zakir Naik speech? I'd love to listen to it. =]

Jazaka Allah khair 7abibity.  :-*
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: Romeesa-Chan on August 02, 2011, 01:38:49 am
I have a Zakir Naik video saved in my lappy regarding violence misconception in Islam! I will share tomorrow, IA. (:
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: Shoshou..Mony on August 02, 2011, 01:43:06 am
I have a Zakir Naik video saved in my lappy regarding violence misconception in Islam! I will share tomorrow, IA. (:

Awesome! Jazaki Allah khair love. :D

I have the smoking one which is really great. =]
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: Romeesa-Chan on August 02, 2011, 01:46:11 am
Awesome! Jazaki Allah khair love. :D

I have the smoking one which is really great. =]
JazakAllah khairon <3

Yuh can post that one on my 'quit smoking' thread. :P ;)
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: Shoshou..Mony on August 02, 2011, 01:47:06 am
JazakAllah khairon <3

Yuh can post that one on my 'quit smoking' thread. :P ;)

:O

I haven't read it yet! I will now inshAllah. =]
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: Romeesa-Chan on August 02, 2011, 01:51:03 am
:O

I haven't read it yet! I will now inshAllah. =]
Haha. Please do. Me no like smokers. >:( :P
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: Malak on August 02, 2011, 05:47:50 pm
Oh really? :D I never knew. I read it on FB and was VERY grateful I did. Now I use it to clear any misconceptions.

Can you send me the link for Dr.Zakir Naik speech? I'd love to listen to it. =]

Jazaka Allah khair 7abibity.  :-*
Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEMrS9sg9TM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEMrS9sg9TM)

I dont remember which video part is it exactly  :-\
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: Romeesa-Chan on August 02, 2011, 09:17:44 pm
Whoever kills and innocent soul or spreads corruption in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. Al-Maeda [5:32]

~Dr.Zakir Naik - Terrorism and Jihad - an Islamic Perspective.Part (1/13)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N-6XHlLDmE&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: iluvme on August 03, 2011, 06:56:08 am
+ rep Angel. Loved this article.

It is also heartening to note that despite the many attacks made by the media on Islam people still revert to Islam. Take a look,
http://chillopedia.com/sports/wayne-parnell-converts-to-islam/
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: Tohru Kyo Sohma on August 03, 2011, 09:54:19 am
+ rep Angel. Loved this article.

It is also heartening to note that despite the many attacks made by the media on Islam people still revert to Islam. Take a look,
http://chillopedia.com/sports/wayne-parnell-converts-to-islam/
he changed to islam,MashAllah
this is very good
thanks iluvme for sharing
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: [Ash] on August 03, 2011, 08:44:03 pm
great thread mashallah.!! :)\

repped!
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: Malak on August 03, 2011, 11:39:53 pm
Thanks everyone =)

I am glad to post something which is useful  ;D
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: Romeesa-Chan on August 04, 2011, 04:40:40 am
^Keep it up.

Another misconception most people take is that Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) has written the Holy Quran which is false because the Holy Quran is the word of Allah alone. The Quran is a revelation to the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).

Quran is God revelations to Prophet Mohamed (peace upon him). These revelations of Quran by God to Prophet Mohamed was through the Angel Gabriel and started in year 610 AD when prophet Mohamed was in Mecca (Makkah) and was by then 40 years old. The revelations continued since then and was completed by year 632 AD (year of death of the prophet).

The long period for full revelation of the Quran (around 22 years) allowed the Quran to be fully memorized and documented by many Muslims. It was recited in the mosque by Prophet Mohamed (PBUH) during the daily five prayers without single letter change. Many Muslims since then until now are memorizing Quran fully without single letter difference. This explains why Quran remains by God will, and will remain by God will, without single letter change.


~Highlighting few issues as follow:

1. Some historians claim that prophet Muhammad wrote the Quran by himself. Arguments against this claim are:
Prophet Muhammad was an illiterate man who had no formal education in any science, language, religious or secular.

2. Quran speaks about a variety of branches of science like: Astronomy, Embryology, Hydrology, Geology, Sociology, Psychology, Oceanography, Law etc. including lots of scientific statements that were validated only recently and were not known in the time of the prophet.

3. It was not known about prophet Muhammad any scholarly tendencies or achievements until the age of forty (when he received the first verses of Quran). So, how this illiterate man suddenly brings about a book like the Quran including an ideological and religious revolution that changed history?

4. Why prophet Muhammad (peace be on him), if he authored the Quran, honor the virgin Mary (May Allah be pleased with her), the mother of Jesus (peace be on him) as the best woman over all women on earth over all ages until day of judgment (an honor that even not offered by the bible) while not mentioning his own family members with a single word and even not mentioning any name of them.?

5. If he had authored the Quran, why he didn't claim this authorship of Quran and consequently gaining higher prestige among his followers who may consider him as a God.

6. Why he mentioned Quran verses that reprimand him (as that of chapter 33, verse 37 and chapter 80 verses 1-3) if he wrote Quran by himself?.


And [remember, O Muhammad], when you said to the one on whom Allah bestowed favor and you bestowed favor, "Keep your wife and fear Allah ," while you concealed within yourself that which Allah is to disclose. And you feared the people, while Allah has more right that you fear Him. So when Zayd had no longer any need for her, We married her to you in order that there not be upon the believers any discomfort concerning the wives of their adopted sons when they no longer have need of them. And ever is the command of Allah accomplished.
(33:37)

1- The Prophet frowned and turned away
2- Because there came to him the blind man, [interrupting].
3- But what would make you perceive, [O Muhammad], that perhaps he might be purified

(80)
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: Romeesa-Chan on August 06, 2011, 09:01:50 pm
~ Misconception: All Muslims are Arabs

The Muslim population of the world is around 1.2 billion. 1 out of 5 people in the world is a Muslim. They are a vast range of races, nationalities, and cultures from around the globe--from the Phillipines to Nigeria--they are united by their common Islamic faith. Only about 18% live in the Arab world and the largest Muslim community is in Indonesia. Most Muslims live east of Pakistan. 30% of Muslims live in the Indian subcontinent, 20% in Sub-Saharan Africa, 17% in Southeast Asia, 18% in the Arab world, and 10% in the Soviet Union and China. Turkey, Iran and Afghanistan make up 10% of the non-Arab Middle East. Although there are Muslim minorities in almost every area, including Latin America and Australia, they are most numerous in Russia and its newly independent states, India and central Africa. There are about 6 million Muslims in the United States.

http://www.beautifulislam.net/intro/misconceptions_islam.htm
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: Tohru Kyo Sohma on August 06, 2011, 10:03:15 pm
~ Misconception: All Muslims are Arabs

The Muslim population of the world is around 1.2 billion. 1 out of 5 people in the world is a Muslim. They are a vast range of races, nationalities, and cultures from around the globe--from the Phillipines to Nigeria--they are united by their common Islamic faith. Only about 18% live in the Arab world and the largest Muslim community is in Indonesia. Most Muslims live east of Pakistan. 30% of Muslims live in the Indian subcontinent, 20% in Sub-Saharan Africa, 17% in Southeast Asia, 18% in the Arab world, and 10% in the Soviet Union and China. Turkey, Iran and Afghanistan make up 10% of the non-Arab Middle East. Although there are Muslim minorities in almost every area, including Latin America and Australia, they are most numerous in Russia and its newly independent states, India and central Africa. There are about 6 million Muslims in the United States.

http://www.beautifulislam.net/intro/misconceptions_islam.htm
true...this is one of the misconceptions
JazaAllah Khair
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: Romeesa-Chan on August 06, 2011, 10:55:11 pm
true...this is one of the misconceptions
JazaAllah Khair
I know right. ::)
JazakAllah khairon ^.^
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: Malak on August 06, 2011, 11:18:01 pm
^ Thanks for posting; its true ::)

There was time when I thought indian or americans cant be muslim  :-[, i was a kid so you know ::)
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: Romeesa-Chan on August 07, 2011, 12:03:22 am
^Lol :P

There some people who think that Indians are only Hindus and cannot be Muslims. ::)
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: Malak on August 07, 2011, 12:06:29 am
^Lol :P

There some people who think that Indians are only Hindus and cannot be Muslims. ::)
I was one of them when I was still a kid ::)
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: The Golden Girl =D on August 07, 2011, 12:14:47 am
~ Misconception: All Muslims are Arabs

The Muslim population of the world is around 1.2 billion. 1 out of 5 people in the world is a Muslim. They are a vast range of races, nationalities, and cultures from around the globe--from the Phillipines to Nigeria--they are united by their common Islamic faith. Only about 18% live in the Arab world and the largest Muslim community is in Indonesia. Most Muslims live east of Pakistan. 30% of Muslims live in the Indian subcontinent, 20% in Sub-Saharan Africa, 17% in Southeast Asia, 18% in the Arab world, and 10% in the Soviet Union and China. Turkey, Iran and Afghanistan make up 10% of the non-Arab Middle East. Although there are Muslim minorities in almost every area, including Latin America and Australia, they are most numerous in Russia and its newly independent states, India and central Africa. There are about 6 million Muslims in the United States.

http://www.beautifulislam.net/intro/misconceptions_islam.htm

True Many people believe ALL muslims are Arabs .... That is certianly not true just like you said.

In face MOST Arabs are not Muslims unfortunately ..at least that's what I heard.

I'll give you an example , in Lebanon you might think since it's an Arab country EVERYONE is a Muslim ..Nope , That country has MOSTLY Christians , the President himself is a Non-Muslim.

Just wanted to add what I know  =]
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: Romeesa-Chan on August 07, 2011, 12:21:01 am
Ang3l: Me too. :P
And now one of my bff/soul sister is an Indian Muslim. ::)

GG: Yeah, I know. By the way, Lebanon is really pwetty! :P (random, I know)
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: The Golden Girl =D on August 07, 2011, 12:22:36 am
I've been there ...Amazing scenery MashAllah <3  ..I just wish I knew how to use the Camera =.= :P
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: Romeesa-Chan on August 07, 2011, 01:36:08 am
I've been there ...Amazing scenery MashAllah <3  ..I just wish I knew how to use the Camera =.= :P
Really? OMG. Nice! ;D I always wanted to go there. ::) :P
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: The Golden Girl =D on August 07, 2011, 11:28:00 am
Really? OMG. Nice! ;D I always wanted to go there. ::) :P

Yup Alhamdulilah =]  ... InshAllah you go there soon ;)
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: Romeesa-Chan on August 07, 2011, 02:03:34 pm
Yup Alhamdulilah =]  ... InshAllah you go there soon ;)
Only after I get married. :P
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: The Golden Girl =D on August 07, 2011, 10:58:14 pm
Only after I get married. :P

You planning to go there in your  honeymoon ? ::)  :P

I so want to go to Japan  :'( LOL xD
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: Malak on August 07, 2011, 11:15:56 pm
You planning to go there in your  honeymoon ? ::)  :P

I so want to go to Japan  :'( LOL xD
LOOOLLLL ::)

I wanna go to bora bora <3
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: The Golden Girl =D on August 07, 2011, 11:21:24 pm
bora bora ,where is that ? :$
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: Malak on August 07, 2011, 11:27:34 pm
bora bora ,where is that ? :$
Its an island, i guess its near France :D Its a beautiful island <33

Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: The Golden Girl =D on August 07, 2011, 11:30:44 pm
Its an island, i guess its near France :D Its a beautiful island <33

Now I have a HUGE list ..I'm sure my future hubby would be like ;

Me : done listing the places I MUST go to in my Honeymoon ;D
future hubby : *Jaw drops *

Awkward Silence

Future hubby : *looks at GG* Go to Jannah sister  :o ::)     Instead of got to hell ya know  :P

LMAO XD
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: Malak on August 07, 2011, 11:54:36 pm
Now I have a HUGE list ..I'm sure my future hubby would be like ;

Me : done listing the places I MUST go to in my Honeymoon ;D
future hubby : *Jaw drops *

Awkward Silence

Future hubby : *looks at GG* Go to Jannah sister  :o ::)     Instead of got to hell ya know  :P

LMAO XD
LOOOL, so he will end up calling you a sis ::) :P
I think his reaction will be more like *OMG, a long honeymoon*  ::)  :P
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: The Golden Girl =D on August 07, 2011, 11:57:04 pm
LOOOL, so he will end up calling you a sis ::) :P
I think his reaction will be more like *OMG, a long honeymoon*  ::)  :P

I guess so .. LOL XD .. God have mercy on the future hubby xD :P
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: iluvme on August 08, 2011, 06:24:19 am
Now I have a HUGE list ..I'm sure my future hubby would be like ;

Me : done listing the places I MUST go to in my Honeymoon ;D
future hubby : *Jaw drops *

Awkward Silence

Future hubby : *looks at GG* Go to Jannah sister  :o ::)     Instead of got to hell ya know  :P

LMAO XD

Loooooolll :D

+Rep
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: $tyli$h Executive on August 08, 2011, 06:55:22 am
The topmost and the most lethal misconception about Islam is that there are many sects/divisions among Islam (shia/sunni bullshit etc). All those who follow Islam are followers of Prophet (PBUH) and the word of God (Quran), period.
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: iluvme on August 08, 2011, 07:01:55 am
The topmost and the most lethal misconception about Islam is that there are many sects/divisions among Islam (shia/sunni bullshit etc). All those who follow Islam are followers of Prophet (PBUH) and the word of God (Quran), period.

Have to contradict you there,
 
"My Ummah will be fragmented into seventy-three (73) sects. All of them will be in Hell Fire except one sect. They (the Companions) said: Allah's Messenger, which is that? Whereupon he said: It is one to which I and my companions belong". [Tirmidhi. 171]

http://thesunnahway.wordpress.com/about/
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: $tyli$h Executive on August 08, 2011, 08:55:49 am
Have to contradict you there,
 
"My Ummah will be fragmented into seventy-three (73) sects. All of them will be in Hell Fire except one sect. They (the Companions) said: Allah's Messenger, which is that? Whereupon he said: It is one to which I and my companions belong". [Tirmidhi. 171]

http://thesunnahway.wordpress.com/about/

Tolerance and unity is essential in all circumstances. Here is another Hadith, the source of which I forgot (sorry)

Support your Muslim brothers in all circumstances, even if they are Zalim. Sahabas asked "Why if they are Zalim?". Prophet (PBUH) replied: To correct and mend their ways.

You know the different sects Shia, sunni, wahabi etc?

For one thing, they all believe in and follow the 5 pillars of Islam: Imaan, Prayer, Hajj, Fasting and Charity. They all believe in Mohammad (PBUH). So, why are there differences? If you study them deeply, you'd find that the differences are over petty things. Still, these petty things are made a mole out of a hill and fight ensues due to this.

However, this does not apply to Kharijites and Ahmadi sects which are obviously non-muslims as they believe in prophets after Mohammad (PBUH) and believe in declaring "muslims as non muslims" and waging war against muslims.
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: $tyli$h Executive on August 08, 2011, 08:59:07 am
Have to contradict you there,
 
"My Ummah will be fragmented into seventy-three (73) sects. All of them will be in Hell Fire except one sect. They (the Companions) said: Allah's Messenger, which is that? Whereupon he said: It is one to which I and my companions belong". [Tirmidhi. 171]

http://thesunnahway.wordpress.com/about/

By that Hadith, the Prophet (PBUH) did not point to any one "SECT" (Sunni/shia etc). He pointed out to a common belief - obeying Muhammad PHUH and Allah, whichever the so-called "sect" is.
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: iluvme on August 08, 2011, 01:05:50 pm
By that Hadith, the Prophet (PBUH) did not point to any one "SECT" (Sunni/shia etc). He pointed out to a common belief - obeying Muhammad PHUH and Allah, whichever the so-called "sect" is.

Yes, they are the Ummah of Prophet PBUH, the only difference lays in their interpretation of Islam.

I pointed out this hadith to you since you said

Quote
The topmost and the most lethal misconception about Islam is that there are many sects/divisions among Islam

It is not a misconception, it is a fact.
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: $tyli$h Executive on August 08, 2011, 03:25:41 pm
Yes, they are the Ummah of Prophet PBUH, the only difference lays in their interpretation of Islam.

I pointed out this hadith to you since you said

It is not a misconception, it is a fact.

Okay, if someone says "I'm a sunni" or "I'm a Shia", doesn't it propagate the misconception that "sectarianism is a part of  Islam"?

The reality is, there is no sect or divide within Islam, only man-made rubbish.
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: iluvme on August 08, 2011, 05:29:45 pm
Okay, if someone says "I'm a sunni" or "I'm a Shia", doesn't it propagate the misconception that "sectarianism is a part of  Islam"?

The reality is, there is no sect or divide within Islam, only man-made rubbish.

I'm wondering how you say this when the prophet PBUH himself had said there'd be a division of his Ummah into 73 sects.
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: Malak on August 08, 2011, 05:51:21 pm
The misconception is not that there are no sects but the misconception is in OUR minds which ended up in having different sects (sunni, shia)

Iluvme: Prophet (PBUH) said that cause he knew that we people will divide up islam in sects even though it shouldnt be divided.
The hadith doesnt at all implies that having sects is the right thing. (I know, you never said that its right)
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: $tyli$h Executive on August 08, 2011, 05:57:21 pm
I'm wondering how you say this when the prophet PBUH himself had said there'd be a division of his Ummah into 73 sects.

You misunderstood me. ::)

Okay, Prophet Muhammad PBUH said that there would be 73 sects, only one of them would be in the correct path. So, which is the ONE sect, the correct one, which the Prophet (PBUH) pointed out? I-S-L-A-M -- where you follow what Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) said and the Quran, the word of God!  ISLAM has NO sects whatsoever. Shia/sunni/wahabi are simply man made divisions, propagation of which in any form  is strictly forbidden by the Prophet (PBUH) as well as the Quran in other references.
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: iluvme on August 08, 2011, 06:11:22 pm
You misunderstood me. ::)

Okay, Prophet Muhammad PBUH said that there would be 73 sects, only one of them would be in the correct path. So, which is the ONE sect, the correct one, which the Prophet (PBUH) pointed out? I-S-L-A-M -- where you follow what Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) said and the Quran, the word of God!  ISLAM has NO sects whatsoever. Shia/sunni/wahabi are simply man made divisions, propagation of which in any form  is strictly forbidden by the Prophet (PBUH) as well as the Quran in other references.

Nevermind. ::) Since I'm not very good at explaining I'll leave it.

By the way could you provide some references as to the part where the you say that Islam being made into different sects is forbidden? Thanks. :)
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on August 08, 2011, 06:14:46 pm
I think it is in human nature to be divided from each other. I don't pretend to know a lot about Islam but I think it obvious that people will start their own individual flavour of Islam.
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: Malak on August 08, 2011, 06:37:33 pm
Nevermind. ::) Since I'm not very good at explaining I'll leave it.

By the way could you provide some references as to the part where the you say that Islam being made into different sects is forbidden? Thanks. :)
I dont know about any direct Hadith but we can get the idea from the one you quoted earlier

Quote
My Ummah will be fragmented into seventy-three (73) sects. All of them will be in Hell Fire except one sect. They (the Companions) said: Allah's Messenger, which is that? Whereupon he said: It is one to which I and my companions belong". [Tirmidhi. 171]

Therefore we can conclude that dividing islam into sects in wrong
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on August 08, 2011, 07:02:59 pm
Therefore we can conclude that dividing islam into sects in wrong.
It may be wrong but it will happen.
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: Malak on August 08, 2011, 07:31:28 pm
Therefore we can conclude that dividing islam into sects in wrong.
It may be wrong but it will happen.
It is happening ::)
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: iluvme on August 08, 2011, 08:07:58 pm
Alhamdulillah Alhamdulillah.

SE I understood your point completely. =)

I was just watching Peace TV and Dr Zakir Naik explained it pretty well.

Surah Imran Verse 130

Surah An'am Verse 159

Thanks a lot Stylish. :)
Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: Romeesa-Chan on August 08, 2011, 08:49:34 pm

I wanna go to bora bora <3

Same here. Top on my list. =]

Now I have a HUGE list ..I'm sure my future hubby would be like ;

Me : done listing the places I MUST go to in my Honeymoon ;D
future hubby : *Jaw drops *

Awkward Silence

Future hubby : *looks at GG* Go to Jannah sister  :o ::)     Instead of got to hell ya know  :P

LMAO XD

LOOOOOOOOOL XD XD XD ROFL :P Funny storyyyy.... :P


By the way could you provide some references as to the part where the you say that Islam being made into different sects is forbidden? Thanks. :)
Thought of sharing. =]

O you who believe! Obey Allah and obey the Messenger (Muhammad ), and those of you (Muslims) who are in authority. (And) if you differ in anything amongst yourselves, refer it to Allah and His Messenger (PBUH), if you believe in Allah and in the Last Day. That is better and more suitable for final determination.

(4:59)

O you who believe! Believe in Allah, and His Messenger (Muhammad ), and the Book (the Qur'an) which He has sent down to His Messenger, and the Scripture which He sent down to those before (him), and whosoever disbelieves in Allah, His Angels, His Books, His Messengers, and the Last Day, then indeed he has strayed far away.

(4:136)

And We have sent down to you (O Muhammad ) the Book (this Qur'an) in truth, confirming the Scripture that came before it and Mohayminan (trustworthy in highness and a witness) over it (old Scriptures) . So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging away from the truth that has come to you. To each among you, We have prescribed a law and a clear way. If Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but that (He) may test you in what He has given you; so strive as in a race in good deeds. The return of you (all) is to Allah; then He will inform you about that in which you used to differ.

(5:48)

Verily, those who divide their religion and break up into sects (all kinds of religious sects) , you (O Muhammad ) have no concern in them in the least. Their affair is only with Allah, Who then will tell them what they used to do.

(6:159)


Title: Re: Top Misconceptions about Islam
Post by: $tyli$h Executive on August 09, 2011, 12:04:38 am
Nevermind. ::) Since I'm not very good at explaining I'll leave it.

By the way could you provide some references as to the part where the you say that Islam being made into different sects is forbidden? Thanks. :)

In addition to the references Yuuki pointed out: Sahih Muslim, book of Emarat, page 141 - The prophet (PBUH) narrated "Mischief and facade is near. And in those times, whoever tries to divide the ummah by any means, you shall kill them with a sword".

By this, you can judge how severe a crime it is to propagate anything regarding Sunni/Shia/Wahabi and other B.S.