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Title: AS maths paper 13 Oct/nov 2010 discussion
Post by: Fatema on October 14, 2010, 09:26:19 am
when are you going to discuss the maths paper 13 Oct/nov 2010
Title: Re: AS maths paper 13 Oct/nov 2010 discussion
Post by: Deadly_king on October 14, 2010, 10:22:44 am
when are you going to discuss the maths paper 13 Oct/nov 2010

I guess it's alright to discuss about it now. 24 hours have already elapsed!

But I sat for paper 12 :P

I guess it won't be the same
Title: Re: AS maths paper 13 Oct/nov 2010 discussion
Post by: islu_jf on October 14, 2010, 10:35:31 am
hey.. i sat for 12 too..
can we discus that here??
and how did u do the last qestion?
Title: Re: AS maths paper 13 Oct/nov 2010 discussion
Post by: cs on October 14, 2010, 12:54:57 pm
I sat for paper 13
Title: Re: AS maths paper 13 Oct/nov 2010 discussion
Post by: Deadly_king on October 14, 2010, 02:15:34 pm
hey.. i sat for 12 too..
can we discus that here??
and how did u do the last qestion?
Last number, you must be meaning the volume of shaded region when it is rotated 360o.

Well, it was simple.
1. You needed to find volume under the line.
2.Find volume under the curve.

Both should be in terms of pie. Then you subtract volume under curve from the volume under line to obtain the required solution ;)
Title: Re: AS maths paper 13 Oct/nov 2010 discussion
Post by: lana on October 14, 2010, 03:05:26 pm
hi...
i sat for 12 too !! how did you guys do ?? i really hated the last question (9 MARKS !!!) it was easy but i didn't have enough time so i got a wrong answer !! =[
best of luck in stat. !! =]
Title: Re: AS maths paper 13 Oct/nov 2010 discussion
Post by: Deadly_king on October 14, 2010, 04:11:35 pm
hi...
i sat for 12 too !! how did you guys do ?? i really hated the last question (9 MARKS !!!) it was easy but i didn't have enough time so i got a wrong answer !! =[
best of luck in stat. !! =]

Yeah........all the work really was worth the 9 marks!

You need to catch up in the other papers  ;)

I think we got Mechanics first :P
Title: Re: AS maths paper 13 Oct/nov 2010 discussion
Post by: lana on October 14, 2010, 04:41:42 pm
i think i'll get the method mark because i did the two integrations of the curve and line but i think i messed up  the calculations !! anyway i hope i don't lose a lot of marks !! and i'm taking statistics not mechanics but best of luck with everything =] !!! and what other A levels are you taking ??
Title: Re: AS maths paper 13 Oct/nov 2010 discussion
Post by: Fatema on October 14, 2010, 05:00:53 pm
I sat for paper 13

how was the paper?
Title: Re: AS maths paper 13 Oct/nov 2010 discussion
Post by: Deadly_king on October 14, 2010, 05:24:03 pm
i think i'll get the method mark because i did the two integrations of the curve and line but i think i messed up  the calculations !! anyway i hope i don't lose a lot of marks !! and i'm taking statistics not mechanics but best of luck with everything =] !!! and what other A levels are you taking ??

Thanks.......good luck to you as well ;)

I'll be doing Physics and Chemistry as well............what about you??
Title: Re: AS maths paper 13 Oct/nov 2010 discussion
Post by: aayushdhital123 on October 14, 2010, 06:19:24 pm
Hey m from the country nepal and i gave paper 12 too. ;D:::Even i found it difficult so i did by using another methor ehich is......(y1)*2 -((y2))*2...and my answer without pie was 11.somethin...so could anyone give me the correct answer of that question..last number(volume of revolution)
Title: Re: AS maths paper 13 Oct/nov 2010 discussion
Post by: lana on October 14, 2010, 06:52:05 pm
Thanks.......good luck to you as well ;)

I'll be doing Physics and Chemistry as well............what about you??

physics AS, chemistry AS, Arabic A2 and Maths A2 and Biology A2... rough year =p !!
and By the way are finding physics to be soooo hard?? if you have revision notes, tips or anything that will help please send them to me if you can i'm really having hard time studying physics ... thank you =]
Title: Re: AS maths paper 13 Oct/nov 2010 discussion
Post by: lana on October 14, 2010, 06:56:06 pm
Hey m from the country nepal and i gave paper 12 too. ;D:::Even i found it difficult so i did by using another methor ehich is......(y1)*2 -((y2))*2...and my answer without pie was 11.somethin...so could anyone give me the correct answer of that question..last number(volume of revolution)

11/12 pi was the correct answer !! =[
Title: Re: AS maths paper 13 Oct/nov 2010 discussion
Post by: cs on October 15, 2010, 12:29:26 am
how was the paper?

It was hard for the most of the people in my school, i manage to do them after second round, but i missed out the "show" the real roots part in the last question before finding a and b, Do you remember your answer for the area in the last question..? and the circular measure part?
Title: Re: AS maths paper 13 Oct/nov 2010 discussion
Post by: Deadly_king on October 15, 2010, 04:49:23 am
physics AS, chemistry AS, Arabic A2 and Maths A2 and Biology A2... rough year =p !!
and By the way are finding physics to be soooo hard?? if you have revision notes, tips or anything that will help please send them to me if you can i'm really having hard time studying physics ... thank you =]
Yeah...........am having a bad time with physics as well :(

These links may be helpful to clear some of your doubts :
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/hframe.html
http://www.astarmathsandphysics.com/
http://www.s-cool.co.uk/alevel.html

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Hey m from the country nepal and i gave paper 12 too. Grin:::Even i found it difficult so i did by using another methor ehich is......(y1)*2 -((y2))*2...and my answer without pie was 11.somethin...so could anyone give me the correct answer of that question..last number(volume of revolution)

Yeah......the answer was 11/12 pie ;)

Am afraid to tell you that but the answer would be 2.88 without pie.
Though your method (pie x integration of [y12 - y22]) was correct.
Initially I did it the same way you did but got a negative value as answer. So I decided to do it step by step and I finally obtained the correct answer.(according to me and my friends)
Title: Re: AS maths paper 13 Oct/nov 2010 discussion
Post by: Fatema on October 15, 2010, 05:05:18 am
It was hard for the most of the people in my school, i manage to do them after second round, but i missed out the "show" the real roots part in the last question before finding a and b, Do you remember your answer for the area in the last question..? and the circular measure part?

well. i couldnt do the circular measure part. found it difficult. as for area i dnt remember the ans.
the a and b i found but dnt remember if i ever showd the real roots or wat.
wat country are u from?
Title: Re: AS maths paper 13 Oct/nov 2010 discussion
Post by: cs on October 15, 2010, 05:35:40 am
well. i couldnt do the circular measure part. found it difficult. as for area i dnt remember the ans.
the a and b i found but dnt remember if i ever showd the real roots or wat.
wat country are u from?

I am from Brunei, i got 2.25 for the area, and a is 1 b is 2..? my friend told me that the question ask to show that a and b are real roots of curve, which you need to substitute both equation to get the equation they provided which is x^6 something something.. i missed out that part although i did it in my mind.. the circular measure part, i got it, but i am not sure if its correct, i got 7.5 for the area of shaded region though..
Title: Re: AS maths paper 13 Oct/nov 2010 discussion
Post by: Fatema on October 15, 2010, 06:51:23 am
I am from Brunei, i got 2.25 for the area, and a is 1 b is 2..? my friend told me that the question ask to show that a and b are real roots of curve, which you need to substitute both equation to get the equation they provided which is x^6 something something.. i missed out that part although i did it in my mind.. the circular measure part, i got it, but i am not sure if its correct, i got 7.5 for the area of shaded region though..

oh yah i remember dng that part. it was x^6+x^3.... if m not mistaken. yes i got the values 1 and 2 but dnt remember which is which. wat ans did u get for the sketching of graph the y= 2 sin x and u were gvn the other part where u hv 2 write the eqn of straight line gvn that 2pi sinx = -ve pi x (sumthing liker that) dnt remember the qn clearly
Title: Re: AS maths paper 13 Oct/nov 2010 discussion
Post by: cs on October 15, 2010, 07:29:11 am
oh yah i remember dng that part. it was x^6+x^3.... if m not mistaken. yes i got the values 1 and 2 but dnt remember which is which. wat ans did u get for the sketching of graph the y= 2 sin x and u were gvn the other part where u hv 2 write the eqn of straight line gvn that 2pi sinx = -ve pi x (sumthing liker that) dnt remember the qn clearly


I don't know the correct answer but i wrote 3 roots, what about you? cos it cuts at 3 place, the equation i put, y= -(1 over pie) x + 1  ...i divide everything by pie
Title: Re: AS maths paper 13 Oct/nov 2010 discussion
Post by: lana on October 15, 2010, 08:36:29 am
Yeah...........am having a bad time with physics as well :(

These links may be helpful to clear some of your doubts :
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/hframe.html
http://www.astarmathsandphysics.com/
http://www.s-cool.co.uk/alevel.html

Yeah......the answer was 11/12 pie ;)

Am afraid to tell you that but the answer would be 2.88 without pie.
Though your method (pie x integration of [y12 - y22]) was correct.
Initially I did it the same way you did but got a negative value as answer. So I decided to do it step by step and I finally obtained the correct answer.(according to me and my friends)

Thank you so much that was very helpful =]
good luck with everything =]
Title: Re: AS maths paper 13 Oct/nov 2010 discussion
Post by: Deadly_king on October 15, 2010, 08:44:03 am
Thank you so much that was very helpful =]
good luck with everything =]

You're welcome :)

Good luck to you too ;)
Title: Re: AS maths paper 13 Oct/nov 2010 discussion
Post by: ShiningStar on October 15, 2010, 11:44:00 am
i did it 11/12 but i forgot to put the pie :@ how many marks will i lose?!! :s
Title: Re: AS maths paper 13 Oct/nov 2010 discussion
Post by: Deadly_king on October 15, 2010, 02:51:55 pm
i did it 11/12 but i forgot to put the pie :@ how many marks will i lose?!! :s
You'll lose one mark :(