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Teachers and Students => Debates => Topic started by: nid404 on March 23, 2010, 07:52:06 am
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In the end, it's what people want to do, but I think it is very unethical. Such relationships have nothing to hold them together...
the ones involved suffer when things don't quite work out.
Also imagine...what if the lady is pregnant, and the guy suddenly decides to leave her because he is not ready to take care of a child...I've seen such cases...Girls usually don't want to lose their child...they go ahead with the baby...no father figure to support and care for it....the child suffers.(not that this doesn't happen once u marry...but the married tag could save the relationship)
What are your views?
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Hmm.. Nice topic Nid. :)
Apart from Marriage, we have many relationships that needs intensive care from both sides. And some of them are natural, tied and bonded from the DAY 1! For Example, Parents care and look out for their children until they are grown ups and when they become independent, they leave their parents when their parents need them... In a long run, they give you support, protect you, provides you with every facility and never ending love of them, you treat them in this way!
When a person cant give importance to this most beautiful relation, how can they tie their bonds with their wife, friends, children etc! Ask this from those poor children who are in Orphanage :'(
Your parents come first, if you cant treat them in this way how you can treat others???
Secondly, apart from friends, your other relatives comes then. I have heard from many people who takes this relations as a burden! >:(
your point is true too. I mean leaving a girl like this in that condition, not only effects Girl but also the coming child, who will be deprive of his Father's love!
Last i would like to share my view point that "Death is not the greatest loss in life. The greatest loss is when relationship dies inside us while we are still alive!"
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Absolutely true
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As many of my friends know, I am a strong fighter against casual sexual relationships. I have always believed that it was wrong.
As I have argued many time before, lust is often the most important reasons, for this, not responsibility. Time and time again, the purpose of man and woman coming together is undermined, the reason, being to weave the next ring of the web, the web of human generations.
People in these relationships are not bound by law to anything. No responsibility means that the children that are born, are illegitimate. It brings shame to both families.
So yes, definitely against, but the root of this is mainly due to casual relationships that start at teenage life. So, tbh, it is quite expected that the longer society sees bf and gf as normal, the longer this problem will persist.
Thats why you see so much of it in America, UK, Canada etc....
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I see no problem in people having gf/bf after they're old enough to look after themselves....and as long as it is not lust, but true love, eternal love...which is quite rare in today's generation
But even if you have someone you love, you can always have a bond that gives a secure feeling....live-in relationships have nothing to guard the child....if no one owns responsibility, we have abandoned kids at orphanages, like ash said
It's a pity
Yes, the west supports the trend, sadly
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yes, but lets look at solving da prob, it all starts with gf and bf. as u admit urself, that it is very rare to find true love at such a young age. and often its not that the person finds tru love, its more like tru love finds the couple.
love is something sacred to me, its the bond between a mother and her children, a combination of duty and care. But often at puberty, teenage minds are 2 overloaded with hormones to actually work things out.
now i c ppl have one gf 2day and another 1 2moro. Its gotten 2 casual.
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^^ Agreed!
I myself dont believe in Gf/Bf at this age, cos no one is serious but later it all depends on how you handle it and how you are capable of taking the responsibility! ;)
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yes, i mean at uni, u can make ur own decisions, cuz then u have grown into a man or a woman.
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A nightmare vision. All women single and with kids on welfare and all men absent.
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that is bad....
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I am quite against it. Though I think we should be free to do what we want, live in relationships harms our society overall. I mean its alright if somebody has a few gfs or bfs for that matter, but turning it into 'living in relationships' is absurd.
And no, its OK to have girlfriends or boyfriends if somebody is on or above 16 years of age or the legal age of the respective country concerned.
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Everything is Ok....but what we're looking at is what is ethical....and what is best for a child...At 16, no one is responsible enough to cater to their needs..
So many cases of 13yr old fathers and mothers.....very disturbing indeed.
There's an age for everything....we need to wait for it...
These hormones like to trick us, we must learn to control our feelings, concentrate on studying and being independent, then consider settling down with the guy/girl you love.
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HELL NO! When did I say people gotta have child at 16?! Its just that they should be allowed to have boyfriends or girlfriends. Not necessarily 'falling in love' or thinking of having a child for that matter. Just for a little bit of fun and enjoyment. ;)
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Well, i think responsibility also counts in Ethics!
where as children are concerned Stylish, its a big responsibility
What i think is that its all unethical! when you cant understand the importance of the relationship!
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You know fun is a very generalized word :P
It can have a lot of adverse effects
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i agree wid nid, but i still think that the main cause of all these complications, is bf and gf.
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i totally support 'nid' here...she has got some strong points there!!
apart from this, i myself sometimes feel awkward in this BF/GF relationship...its a new of its kind with no need of it in our society...it just adds further complications to life...it is just a wrong perception of relationships by the new generation...this idea of BF/GF has crept into the minds of young teenagers and causing them to suffer from difficulties at such a young age...!! :-\ :-\
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root and cause of all the corruption in relation ship :P :P
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Well, i think responsibility also counts in Ethics!
where as children are concerned Stylish, its a big responsibility
What i think is that its all unethical! when you cant understand the importance of the relationship!
Hey I said I'm against live in relationships. ::) :P
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root and cause of all the corruption in relation ship :P :P
My goodness! bf and gf are just "Friends" after all! Isn't someone really ridiculous who doesn't interact with the opposite sex? :P
And yes, I agree, if its anything more than friends like lovey dovey or a similar madness, then its quite ridiculous. ;) :D ;D
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You know fun is a very generalized word :P
It can have a lot of adverse effects
Hey, 'fun' doesn't mean any sexual relationship. Get it now? :P
Everybody will agree with me: Its fun to talk and interact with the opposite sex more than with the same old faces over and over again. :D
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i totally support 'nid' here...she has got some strong points there!!
apart from this, i myself sometimes feel awkward in this BF/GF relationship...its a new of its kind with no need of it in our society...it just adds further complications to life...it is just a wrong perception of relationships by the new generation...this idea of BF/GF has crept into the minds of young teenagers and causing them to suffer from difficulties at such a young age...!! :-\ :-\
quite true -_-. But I wouldn't blame BF or GF relationship for this. Its the thing you call "Love" which is the centre of all these problem. To me, love or emotion has little implication. It exists for me, but just for show business. Strictly speaking, its just a word for hitting the box office.
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@stylish- Love is a strong word....and im 100% sure it is not used to entertain ppl...certainly not
Let me ask u
Do you love your parents and your siblings....will you be wrecked and jaded if anything happens to them....I'm sure you would be...
This same feeling is called love for somebody, if you understand what I mean :) .A guy, instead of going out with a girl at 16 and getting serious (which is stupid...no offence), must work hard to make sure one can fend for his girl who is on his way....If someone hurries with a gf/bf, his or her real love may be led astray
Well this is kinda off topic
But basically...what im trying to say is, it is not sensible for 18 yr old couples to share a room....Cuz it's jst not acceptable...Who would u blame if things don't work out....Who will look at you again, when they knw you have had such a relationship....
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Nid, I am sorry but pointing fingers aggressively at another member is an offence. You said 'instead of going out with someone at 16 and getting serious .......' and 'if you are in a hurry....'. You are pointing your fingers directly at me when you said that.
Kindly edit your post. Point to the general audience using 'us' 'we' 'ourselves' or a similar word. Do not point directly at me or any other member.
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k...i thought you was generalized in debates...that's how we've been having it in school....anyway...I'll change it
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Lol...I can't change anything more...the grammar goes haywire....
srry if u thought it ws intended for u :-\
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Ok Nid, I did the job. :) . Its okay.
Now back to business.
When I said 'love' I didn't mean the love for parents and siblings. I meant the kind of love between a man or a woman. Now the matter about bf/gf shouldn't be taken seriously. Its just a little bit of fun and enjoyment. Not something serious like sharing a room (with plans of future) or something similar like having a kid (which is quite stupid, I agree).
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do u consider kissing and 'stuff' enjoyment.
wellm wat do u talk 2 a girl abt, like ur gf, what wud to talk to her abt exec??
c'mon, ur very anonymous, like u say 'enjoyment', 'interaction' 'fun'??
wat do u mean??
sounds a lot like a relationship to me
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well, One may think it is temporary n all...but then that's not love, rightly as u said, but these relations may become physical due to lust...with dire consequences.
A guy may take it as fad, to keep having new gfs.....but I am a girl and I understand how girls take their relationships to be. Girls give their everything...they really love u. When a guy leaves them, they'd be shattered. But they are strong :)
That doesn't mean one should keep hurting them...
I didn't knw guys always thought of having gfs for the sake of it....I'm lucky I've never fallen into this trap ::)
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well, One may think it is temporary n all...but then that's not love, rightly as u said, but these relations may become physical due to lust...with dire consequences.
A guy may take it as fad, to keep having new gfs.....but I am a girl and I understand how girls take their relationships to be. Girls give their everything...they really love u. When a guy leaves them, they'd be shattered. But they are strong :)
That doesn't mean one should keep hurting them...
I didn't knw guys always thought of having gfs for the sake of it....I'm lucky I've never fallen into this trap ::)
The word 'girlfriend' or boyfriend can be broken into two parts - girl friend and boy friend.
Is it bad to be friends with the opposite sex? I'm sure it's not.
NOW when I say girlfriend and boyfriend, I do NOT mean 'LOVER' or a similar madness like that. :P
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do u consider kissing and 'stuff' enjoyment.
wellm wat do u talk 2 a girl abt, like ur gf, what wud to talk to her abt exec??
c'mon, ur very anonymous, like u say 'enjoyment', 'interaction' 'fun'??
wat do u mean??
sounds a lot like a relationship to me
Number 1: I do not have any girlfriends (if you mean 'lover'). :P
Number 2: 'Interaction' means to talk or communicate in any way with the other.
Number 3: 'enjoyment' and 'fun' is self explanatory. But it doesn't necessarily mean anything sexual.
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The word 'girlfriend' or boyfriend can be broken into two parts - girl friend and boy friend.
Is it bad to be friends with the opposite sex? I'm sure it's not.
NOW when I say girlfriend and boyfriend, I do NOT mean 'LOVER' or a similar madness like that. :P
The topic is about that :P :P :P
lol borakk
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Lulz, I don't care about love at this age anymore XD All I care about is making me some casshhh money and having fun without no girl saying 'dont do this' and 'dont do that' and 'dont talk to girls'
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Lulz, I don't care about love at this age anymore XD All I care about is making me some casshhh money and having fun without no girl saying 'dont do this' and 'dont do that' and 'dont talk to girls'
I second that :P Enjoy your freedom...You'll r still kids.friggin enjoy!! ;D
Love will come whn it has to...
and there is nothing wrong in having friends from the opp gender...that's not what i meant....Funny thing is i get along better with guys from the opp sex...
Have as many friends as you want...flirt with each one of them :P....why have restrictions and commitments in the days when u have to njoy ur freedom....U will regret having a gf/bf at a young age when u look back on your days...when u finally get married.
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I second that :P Enjoy your freedom...You'll r still kids.friggin enjoy!! ;D
Love will come whn it has to...
and there is nothing wrong in having friends from the opp gender...that's not what i meant....Funny thing is i get along better with guys from the opp sex...
Have as many friends as you want...flirt with each one of them :P....why have restrictions and commitments in the days when u have to njoy ur freedom....U will regret having a gf/bf at a young age when u look back on your days...when u finally get married.
true true xD
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gd to c u again psyclax
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gd to c u again psyclax
good to see you too xD
i havent been active for a while, and ive even deactivated my fb temporarily and rarely use msn nowadays cause I want to do real good on my a-levels so that next year i'll be enjoying my life :)
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Oh it's psyclax...didn't notice :P
How r u doin??
Yaa i noticed u weren't on fb anymore...cuz earlier, my homepage ws filled...now it's all empty :(
Good to see u study well :)
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Oh it's psyclax...didn't notice :P
How r u doin??
Yaa i noticed u weren't on fb anymore...cuz earlier, my homepage ws filled...now it's all empty :(
Good to see u study well :)
lol who did you think i was nid :p
im doing fine thank you:) how about you? how's life with u?
yeah i have to study good cause if i do good, which hopefully i will.. i will have myself a busy schedule starting from summer (gym, work, photoshop, games and loads of other stuff) :)
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I'm fine thnk u...but too much to study for AS :-X
By the way after ur exams u have one more thing to do....upload videos of u playing the guitar...yeah? Cuz I wanna hear you play... ;D
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I'm fine thnk u...but too much to study for AS :-X
By the way after ur exams u have one more thing to do....upload videos of u playing the guitar...yeah? Cuz I wanna hear you play... ;D
XD
You still remember? :P I'll try my best though lol, but problem is I still haven't fixed my guitar strings and I haven't been playing or anything and honestly my guitar sucks lol, I need a new one, either a gibson les paul or a warlock :D but soon ill try to make a video :D
By the way bfmv is releasing their new album this april :)
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Ofc I remember....I have a good memory..:D
Ohhhh gibson!!
I bought an LTD....cuz I jst srtd electric a few months back....
the very first day i tried playing BFMV hand of blood :P I could play nothing beyond the intro :P :P
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Ofc I remember....I have a good memory..:D
Ohhhh gibson!!
I bought an LTD....cuz I jst srtd electric a few months back....
the very first day i tried playing BFMV hand of blood :P I could play nothing beyond the intro :P :P
it takes time to get used to playing songs and then its as easy as eating xD
u should lsn to The Last Fight by bfmv, one of their new songs :) amazing solo :D
and i need to get a new amp :( mine is so small and it sucks xP
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I'll lstn to it..thank u :)
I got a laney amp...20W...not too good either