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Re: Edexcel PHYSICS Doubts
« Reply #675 on: June 05, 2011, 10:30:58 pm »
How would you calculate % uncertainty. I know its the first thing u answered in the topic but its not working with this question
They give us 2 values 18.66 and 18.64 and ask us to find the percentage uncertainty.

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Re: Edexcel PHYSICS Doubts
« Reply #676 on: June 05, 2011, 10:32:46 pm »
How would you calculate % uncertainty. I know its the first thing u answered in the topic but its not working with this question
They give us 2 values 18.66 and 18.64 and ask us to find the percentage uncertainty.
Is there anything else in the question? :S like original reading, instrument mentioned or something ???
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Re: Edexcel PHYSICS Doubts
« Reply #677 on: June 05, 2011, 10:33:35 pm »
which question? the one i answered?
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Re: Edexcel PHYSICS Doubts
« Reply #678 on: June 05, 2011, 10:35:45 pm »
Is there anything else in the question? :S like original reading, instrument mentioned or something ???

the values are the time taken for 20 oscillation per second, and they give us the mean time for one oscillation which is 0.932 seconds.

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Re: Edexcel PHYSICS Doubts
« Reply #679 on: June 05, 2011, 10:39:04 pm »
which question? the one i answered?

no not the exact same question. I meant this ones percentage uncertainty as well

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Re: Edexcel PHYSICS Doubts
« Reply #680 on: June 05, 2011, 10:43:21 pm »
June 2010, Q2v

Why do we multiply them both with 2? :S

This is because you made two readings before calculating the answer. I've not read the question but am pretty sure there was something like initial and final readings.

Since two readings were made, same uncertainty was carried out twice. That's why we multiply it by two ;)

Hope it helps :D

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Re: Edexcel PHYSICS Doubts
« Reply #681 on: June 05, 2011, 10:44:51 pm »
How would you calculate % uncertainty. I know its the first thing u answered in the topic but its not working with this question
They give us 2 values 18.66 and 18.64 and ask us to find the percentage uncertainty.


Percentage uncertainty = uncertainty/mean value x 100%
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Re: Edexcel PHYSICS Doubts
« Reply #682 on: June 05, 2011, 10:48:11 pm »

Percentage uncertainty = uncertainty/mean value x 100%


yea they did something like that in the mark scheme, they did (0.5/18.64) x 100%
I really dont get where they got the 0.5 from tho

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Re: Edexcel PHYSICS Doubts
« Reply #683 on: June 05, 2011, 10:50:23 pm »
yea they did something like that in the mark scheme, they did (0.5/18.64) x 100%
I really dont get where they got the 0.5 from tho

even i dint get where did they bring 0.5 from

anyway guys can you list out the uncertainties of measurement of the following apparatus?
1. metre rule
2. voltmeter (not digital)
3. ammeter (not digital)
4. voltmeter (digital)
5. ammeter (digital)
6. Digital stopwatch
by the way, is human error an uncertainty too? Is human error 0.01s?
If it is, then please consider this case:
when a ball is allowed to free fall for 2s, the distance is recorded. (different sizes of ball are used) the distance has an uncertainty, however the uncertainty is human error (0.01s+0.01s) or uncertainty of the metre rule (0.5mm+0.5mm)?

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Re: Edexcel PHYSICS Doubts
« Reply #684 on: June 05, 2011, 10:50:56 pm »
0.5 is the uncertainty.
sometimes it's what YOU HAVE to remember or figure it out yourself.
it's easy ;)
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Re: Edexcel PHYSICS Doubts
« Reply #685 on: June 05, 2011, 10:53:21 pm »
0.5 is the uncertainty.
sometimes it's what YOU HAVE to remember or figure it out yourself.
it's easy ;)
want me to help you out there? ::)

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Re: Edexcel PHYSICS Doubts
« Reply #686 on: June 05, 2011, 10:54:58 pm »
This is because you made two readings before calculating the answer. I've not read the question but am pretty sure there was something like initial and final readings.

Since two readings were made, same uncertainty was carried out twice. That's why we multiply it by two ;)

Hope it helps :D

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Re: Edexcel PHYSICS Doubts
« Reply #687 on: June 05, 2011, 10:55:25 pm »
0.5 is the uncertainty.
sometimes it's what YOU HAVE to remember or figure it out yourself.
it's easy ;)
want me to help you out there? ::)

Yes please! how do u figure that out?
they also wrote "change in 20T= 0.5 - 1.0 s [reaction time] leading to correct %"
what reaction time?!

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Re: Edexcel PHYSICS Doubts
« Reply #688 on: June 05, 2011, 10:55:59 pm »
even i dint get where did they bring 0.5 from

anyway guys can you list out the uncertainties of measurement of the following apparatus?
1. metre rule
2. voltmeter (not digital)
3. ammeter (not digital)
4. voltmeter (digital)
5. ammeter (digital)
6. Digital stopwatch
by the way, is human error an uncertainty too? Is human error 0.01s?
If it is, then please consider this case:
when a ball is allowed to free fall for 2s, the distance is recorded. (different sizes of ball are used) the distance has an uncertainty, however the uncertainty is human error (0.01s+0.01s) or uncertainty of the metre rule (0.5mm+0.5mm)?

thanks  :)

okay, to all those who've got trouble with uncertainty.

Uncertainty of ANY instrument is the SMALLEST readable value of it.

in a metre rule
like this one

the smallest readable value is 1 mm.

so the uncertainty is 1 mm for this ruler.
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Re: Edexcel PHYSICS Doubts
« Reply #689 on: June 05, 2011, 11:02:18 pm »
okay, to all those who've got trouble with uncertainty.

Uncertainty of ANY instrument is the SMALLEST readable value of it.

in a metre rule
like this one

the smallest readable value is 1 mm.

so the uncertainty is 1 mm for this ruler.

then shouldnt the uncertainty be 0.01 because the values they give are 18.66 and 18.46 they can only read it upto 0.01?
sorry By the way im just panicking here thats y im pressing on it so much