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Re: ANY DOUBTS HERE!!!
« Reply #165 on: May 27, 2010, 05:13:29 pm »
yup check the attachment



hey nid thankyou ;D
but i got the "R" wrong could u plzz explain why its in such a direction :)
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Re: ANY DOUBTS HERE!!!
« Reply #166 on: May 27, 2010, 05:15:59 pm »
hmm....well...it's reaction force...think abt mechanics now..lol...when u have a slope...and something is placed on it...visualize it's normal contact force...hope that helps

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Re: ANY DOUBTS HERE!!!
« Reply #167 on: May 27, 2010, 05:23:43 pm »
hmm....well...it's reaction force...think abt mechanics now..lol...when u have a slope...and something is placed on it...visualize it's normal contact force...hope that helps

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Re: ANY DOUBTS HERE!!!
« Reply #168 on: May 28, 2010, 10:30:29 am »
phyiscs cie AS
nov 2009 p2
Q3Cii
why do we use the vertical component of velocity when we calculate momentum here why not the horizontal component??
 
Q4cii
part 2
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Re: ANY DOUBTS HERE!!!
« Reply #169 on: May 28, 2010, 11:44:55 am »
it's falling vertically down...so you use the vertical component


x when weight is F+3.8N =17.8-14.2=3.6cm=0.036m
x when weight is 3.8N=16.3-14.2=2.1cm=0.021m
2 epe= 1/2 kx2 = 1/2 X 1.8 X 10^-2 X (change in x2)
                                    =1/2 X 1.8 X10^-2 X (0.0362-0.0212)
                                    =0.077 J

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Re: ANY DOUBTS HERE!!!
« Reply #170 on: May 28, 2010, 12:18:56 pm »
A lamp is supported in equilibrium by 2 chains fixed to 2 points A and B at the same level.

i) The lengths of the chain are 0.3m and 0.4m and the distance between A and B is 0.5m. Given the tension in the longer chain is 36N, by resolving horizontally , find the tension in the shorter chain.

ii) By resolving vertically , find the mass of the lamp.

Please explain with A DIAGRAM!, thanks a lot! :D
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Re: ANY DOUBTS HERE!!!
« Reply #171 on: May 28, 2010, 12:29:02 pm »
it's falling vertically down...so you use the vertical component


x when weight is F+3.8N =17.8-14.2=3.6cm=0.036m
x when weight is 3.8N=16.3-14.2=2.1cm=0.021m
2 epe= 1/2 kx2 = 1/2 X 1.8 X 10^-2 X (change in x2)
                                    =1/2 X 1.8 X10^-2 X (0.0362-0.0212)
                                    =0.077 J


the answer am getting is 0.00000769
and for the extension why arent we taking only this extension:
x when weight is 3.8N=16.3-14.2=2.1cm=0.021m
as this is wat they only asked for...
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Re: ANY DOUBTS HERE!!!
« Reply #172 on: May 28, 2010, 12:36:02 pm »
Yup so here you go.

You the the angle between the two chains is 90. 0.32+ 0.42= 0.52  yup?

now find angles a and b

tan a= 0.4/0.3=53.13
b= 180-90-53.13=36.87

now sina/36 = sinb/ T is the shorter chain

T=27N in the shorter chain

Now resolving forces vertically

36sin36.87+27sin53.13= mg
0.6X36+ 0.8X27=mg
mg=45
m=4.5 kg


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Re: ANY DOUBTS HERE!!!
« Reply #173 on: May 28, 2010, 12:43:19 pm »
the answer am getting is 0.00000769
and for the extension why arent we taking only this extension:
x when weight is 3.8N=16.3-14.2=2.1cm=0.021m
as this is wat they only asked for...


It says For the extension of the spring from a length of 16.3 cm to a length of 17.8 cm ... :-\

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Re: ANY DOUBTS HERE!!!
« Reply #174 on: May 28, 2010, 12:48:41 pm »
Yup so here you go.

You the the angle between the two chains is 90. 0.32+ 0.42= 0.52  yup?

now find angles a and b

tan a= 0.4/0.3=53.13
b= 180-90-53.13=36.87

now sina/36 = sinb/ T is the shorter chain

T=27N in the shorter chain

Now resolving forces vertically

36sin36.87+27sin53.13= mg
0.6X36+ 0.8X27=mg
mg=45
m=4.5 kg



ok sry, i didnt put the q rite, it says by resolving horizontally show that the T in the shorter chain is 48N! not 27N

plus, the mass is 6kg :-/
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Re: ANY DOUBTS HERE!!!
« Reply #175 on: May 28, 2010, 12:56:23 pm »
ok sry, i didnt put the q rite, it says by resolving horizontally show that the T in the shorter chain is 48N! not 27N

plus, the mass is 6kg :-/

ok then...refer to the same diagram

a=53.13
b=36.87

now 36cos36.87=Tcos53.13
T=48 N

now resolve vertically
36sin36.87+48sin53.13=mg
  21.6    +38.4=mg
60=mg
m=6kg

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Re: ANY DOUBTS HERE!!!
« Reply #176 on: May 28, 2010, 12:57:37 pm »
Okay, i tried that and i got it. But what puzzles me is the previous method u used, that is also a correct way to find the force rite?

F = 27N ?

By the way, thanks for the other answers..! :)
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Re: ANY DOUBTS HERE!!!
« Reply #177 on: May 28, 2010, 12:58:44 pm »
Okay, i tried that and i got it. But what puzzles me is the previous method u used, that is also a correct way to find the force rite?

F = 27N ?

By the way, thanks for the other answers..! :)

I am wondering...cause i used something similar in another question like this is the book...and got the right ans....I must check tho  :-\

You're welcome  ;)

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Re: ANY DOUBTS HERE!!!
« Reply #178 on: May 28, 2010, 02:34:32 pm »
guys juz a short question on chemistry AS,
how do you arrange atoms/groups in an optical isomerism
for e.g (i) CH3COCOOH (ii) H3C-CBr(COOH)-CH2Br

if you could xplain in diagram it will be very much appreciated ^^

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Re: ANY DOUBTS HERE!!!
« Reply #179 on: May 28, 2010, 02:52:51 pm »
Optical isomer are possible only in compounds containing a chiral carbon

So it's not possible in the first one.

Here's how the second one would look