Author Topic: Death Penalty Vs Life imprisonment  (Read 17017 times)

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Re: Death Penalty Vs Life imprisonment
« Reply #60 on: January 01, 2010, 04:20:20 pm »
Alpha, I am really very very sorry, for taking this debate personally. *My Apologies*.

Lets leave all personal issues here. Therefore, I will not be replying to any personal issues which I discussed and you replied.

I'm not quitting and will get back with an answer, maybe today itself!

e-debating is FUN!!!

Take Care!

Till then, Bye!

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Re: Death Penalty Vs Life imprisonment
« Reply #61 on: January 02, 2010, 03:24:35 pm »
We're moving ahead in time...
Leaving everything behind...:)

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Re: Death Penalty Vs Life imprisonment
« Reply #62 on: January 02, 2010, 05:42:00 pm »
Hi ~Alpha,

I have changed my debating style. I don’t like quoting long texts. ‘Your assumption’ summarizes your writings in previous context. ‘The FACT’ represents my arguments ;) .

Your assumption: The death penalty deters crime.

The FACT: Wrong, it only deters crime in countries where it's carried out quickly and absolutely.  In some countries if you are convicted of murder, you are taken outside and executed publicly, usually within 24 hours.  This deters serious criminals who commit crimes, for sure. However, people of developed nations will never stand for this. We Bangladeshis do not support this. It is too cruel and inhumane for us. I don’t think Mauritians will like it too. So, this method of execution will not be employed by most countries, due to public opposition. Therefore, this assumption is made unrealistic.

Your assumption: Keeping behind bars is costly. Too much money is spent on unproductive prisoners. We have to pay prison guards, and give food to prisoners. We citizens have to pay tax money to keep them alive. This is gross. So, they should be executed, so that we can spend the money on more productive purposes.

The FACT: Unfortunately, it costs dramatically more to kill those same criminals.  The typical death penalty conviction must go through several levels of appeal.  All these appeals must be heard by the courts in virtually every case.  Attorneys and solicitors are paid dramatically more than prison guards.  One prison guard is responsible for several prisoners, where one prisoner on death row typically employs several attorneys and legal staff for many years, all while still using your tax money in prison.  Life sentences are rarely appealed.  The typical life span in prison is about two dozen years. Interestingly, many of the most violent prisoners get murdered in prison.

Another unfortunate fact that I have to mention is that, though I tried my best to make you understand that it is the percentage of GDP which counts, still you are not agreeing with me. Just have a look at Bloomberg or any other business channel. Or have a look at any advanced economics book or even newspapers. When government expenditures are mentioned, the percentage of GDP that they occupy is given more importance, rather than the sum or its opportunity costs.

Best of luck! (for criticizing my arguments ;) !!!)
 
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« Last Edit: January 02, 2010, 05:44:05 pm by $tyli$h Executive »

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Re: Death Penalty Vs Life imprisonment
« Reply #63 on: January 02, 2010, 07:10:13 pm »
any plans to think something other than death?

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Re: Death Penalty Vs Life imprisonment
« Reply #64 on: January 03, 2010, 09:50:16 am »
any plans to think something other than death?

I am loving this debate...Let it go on :P

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Re: Death Penalty Vs Life imprisonment
« Reply #65 on: January 03, 2010, 10:37:30 am »
I love e-debating, especially when ~Alpha opposes me!

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Re: Death Penalty Vs Life imprisonment
« Reply #66 on: January 03, 2010, 04:47:37 pm »
alpha, debate on mine topics which were opened in the debate section long time ago and which received no replies...

i will oppose u even if u were right :P
lets give a try

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Re: Death Penalty Vs Life imprisonment
« Reply #67 on: January 03, 2010, 08:36:17 pm »
Sgvaibhab, please let me win this debate against Alpha first ;) . After that, both Alpha and I will debate against you ;) . Right now I am waiting in tenterhooks for her reply. I really like debating with her!

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Re: Death Penalty Vs Life imprisonment
« Reply #68 on: January 04, 2010, 12:00:14 pm »
There is no winner in a debate
Not possible

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Re: Death Penalty Vs Life imprisonment
« Reply #69 on: January 04, 2010, 04:13:32 pm »
Last year, our school won a debate tournament with mastermind school.

Why not in a forum?!

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Re: Death Penalty Vs Life imprisonment
« Reply #70 on: January 04, 2010, 04:43:55 pm »
Last year, our school won a debate tournament with mastermind school.

Why not in a forum?!

A debate cannot possibly be won, because there is a point put forth from either sides...
In competitions, they see which one is better presented

There is no this- side- of- the-argument is correct...
There ain't nothing wrong or right in a debate...
Debates can come to a conclusion but with an opportunity cost ::)

I jst realized we're off topic
I am waiting for alpha to reply too....Interesting debate

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Re: Death Penalty Vs Life imprisonment
« Reply #71 on: January 04, 2010, 04:52:07 pm »
Hi nid404,

Aaaah, we will just leave it at that!

For now, I am waiting to see what our friend, ~Alpha can come up with!

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Re: Death Penalty Vs Life imprisonment
« Reply #72 on: January 05, 2010, 01:48:50 am »
 :o  :o  :o I didn't know there was so much gossiping about me.  :P
Now, understand why Borakk had to remind me about the debate.  :D

Hey, by the way, there is no Oscar prize for beating me. You won't get a Nobel prize either. Think more about debating only.  :P
 
@Sgvaibhav

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any plans to think something other than death?

Other than life, you mean?  ;)

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alpha, debate on mine topics which were opened in the debate section long time ago and which received no replies...

i will oppose u even if u were right  :P
lets give a try

Hey, am quoting yes, but am not debating yet... I missed the posts by lots.
Sure, we're gonna give it a try some day... When am over with this one.  ;D (Hope you have patience.)
In the meantime, why don't you just hop in this debate?

By the way, what's that in your signature? You really did add that as a tail to your posts? I can't believe.  :P :D :D

@Nid

 :P Thanks for the help. You practically vanished. Hey, brought you popcorn!  :P :D

You're right about "There is no winner". I had said this earlier.  ::) A debate, if done properly by both participants, must end neutrally. There is nothing 100% advantageous or 100% disadvantageous.
In competitions, they win only because there must be a winning team, else, no one would be motivated to enter in 'verbal fights'. LOL

@Borakk

"especially when ~Alpha opposes me"... Goodness, it's supposed to be a compliment?  :P :D

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Sgvaibhab, please let me win this debate against Alpha first  ;) . After that, both Alpha and I will debate against you  ;) . Right now I am waiting in tenterhooks for her reply. I really like debating with her!

Okay fine, it's a critical compliment: you like debating with me cause you're waiting for the day you will finally win.  :P :P

Boy, what I learned with all the debates I did: victory is earned, not claimed. Over confidence is the greatest barrier in the path leading to victory.

Thank you for the reminder. Today, I have a list of jobs. You remember, I had left? Well, that's why am taken up actually, gotta complete everything that was not done in my absence. Workload increased. Nobody did my part of work.  :(

Anyway, I'll make it my second obligation. If not today, tomorrow. In the meantime, you may go on. No need to stop cause of me.

Good Luck (to myself...?  :P)!  ;)

By the way, join in the site I gave you. I'm gonna start debating there also.
Correction: I'm gonna have to start debating there also.  ;D

You are all invited.   :)
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Re: Death Penalty Vs Life imprisonment
« Reply #73 on: January 05, 2010, 10:06:18 am »
Hi Alpha,

I am sorry i couldnt join that website of yours. I will do it soon maybe today itself.

Maybe i can help you over there!

Cheers!

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Re: Death Penalty Vs Life imprisonment
« Reply #74 on: January 05, 2010, 01:00:03 pm »
Hey am tired today....  :'(

Tomorrow, I have to go out...

Do not mind my delay... Please, continue in my absence.

Borakk, yup, that's right, I need help....Hehehe Am dead tired.

Allez, have a nice time.