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Why can equality not prevail?
Deadly_king:
--- Quote from: Bill Gates on December 07, 2010, 02:40:21 pm ---Lust for power and greed, expressed in the correct way (ie, not competing directly for the resources of others), is what I consider to be one of the greatest virtues of human beings. It is the root for all progress of mankind.
If someone achieved a very good result, its because he/she had a lust for achievement. If someone is rich and prosperous, it is because he had a strong lust/greed for money and has worked for it. If Malaysia is so developed compared to what it was 15 years ago, it is because of the lust and greed of Mahathir Mohammad for a prosperous economy.
Contrary to what everyone believes, the fact is that the lack of money/power is the root of all evil.
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I understand what you mean but I don't fully agree with you. It's indeed the fact of not having money or power that creates evil. But if someone takes everything for himself, he's condemning others which will revolt. ;)
Am not saying you should not have money or prosper in life. Rather you should always earn the maximum but you need not be greedy. This can always be detrimental to your pocket.
Definition of greed :
An excessive desire to acquire or possess more than what one needs or deserves, especially with respect to material wealth.
In other words, it's earning in excess which is not good. You need to leave some for your neighbours or colleagues as well. You cannot take all for yourself despite the fact that you may be hard-working and deserve all the money you actually earn.
If you have time, do read this.
Dibss:
^ Well-argued, DK. (:
Alpha:
--- Quote from: Bill Gates on December 06, 2010, 10:42:35 am ---I am both Malaysian, by birth, and Bangladeshi. You'll have a multi-cultural experience with me then. :P
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Good one. :D
--- Quote from: Martin Luther King Jr on December 08, 2010, 08:20:21 am --- I understand what you mean but I don't fully agree with you. It's indeed the fact of not having money or power that creates evil. But if someone takes everything for himself, he's condemning others which will revolt. ;) Am not saying you should not have money or prosper in life. Rather you should always earn the maximum but you need not be greedy. This can always be detrimental to your pocket. Definition of greed : An excessive desire to acquire or possess more than what one needs or deserves, especially with respect to material wealth. In other words, it's earning in excess which is not good. You need to leave some for your neighbours or colleagues as well. You cannot take all for yourself despite the fact that you may be hard-working and deserve all the money you actually earn. If you have time, do read this.
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If you think well, inequality isn't bad. Everybody cannot be equal if man has to move on in life.
I don't imagine myself living in a world where everybody is poor, everybody illiterate, and everybody, a criminal. It can be in this sense too, nah. ;)
$tyli$h Executive:
--- Quote from: Martin Luther King Jr on December 08, 2010, 08:20:21 am ---I understand what you mean but I don't fully agree with you. It's indeed the fact of not having money or power that creates evil. But if someone takes everything for himself, he's condemning others which will revolt. ;)
Am not saying you should not have money or prosper in life. Rather you should always earn the maximum but you need not be greedy. This can always be detrimental to your pocket.
Definition of greed
An excessive desire to acquire or possess more than what one needs or deserves, especially with respect to material wealth.
In other words, it's earning in excess which is not good. You need to leave some for your neighbours or colleagues as well. You cannot take all for yourself despite the fact that you may be hard-working and deserve all the money you actually earn.
If you have time, do read this.
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There is some contradiction here. In the previous part, you said that we do have a right to prosper and earn the maximum. While in the latter part you said that greed is not good ie. possessing more than one needs/deserves. How can one prosper and earn the maximum and at the same time, possess not more than one needs/deserves?
Also, the word need and deserve was used as the synonym. I don't think this is the case. In my opinion, whether someone deserves something is determined by whether he has it or not. You deserve it, so you have it. You don't, so you don't have it. Its pretty simple.
To be realistic, one needs very less. I need very less wealth to cover my basic needs (eg. shelter, food, security etc). Talking in that respect, I do not need to study in a good expensive school which offers Cambridge syllabuses. I can get my basic education in a local, feeble one. That would cover my needs well. While at the same time, I'm sure, this is something everyone including you would disapprove of.
The desire to acquire excessive wealth and materialistic possessions has been the root of all progress of mankind. It is a virtue and everyone should practice it, in my opinion. Everyone should have the excessive desire to acquire excessive wealth and they should work for it. This system will ensure our (the mankind, as a whole)'s progress.
It is only harmful when someone directly competes for the resources of others. What I mean to say is, take the example of a person. He has a friend who has more wealth than him. He becomes greedy of his friend's wealth.
Now, this can be expressed in two ways. First: Due to this desire, he can set his mind to be more wealthy than his friend. By doing so, he will have to do better in business and/or his job. Or he will have to look for other better opportunities which may feed his desire. Second: He becomes jealous of his friend and makes a plot to grab his wealth by some means.
The first one is a virtue, is good, and is something which has caused the human race to progress this far. The second one is not good and often backfires.
I hope I'm clear.
$tyli$h Executive:
--- Quote from: Cleo~patra VII on December 10, 2010, 12:29:54 pm --- Good one. :D
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Thanks! :)
--- Quote ---If you think well, inequality isn't bad. Everybody cannot be equal if man has to move on in life.
I don't imagine myself living in a world where everybody is poor, everybody illiterate, and everybody, a criminal. It can be in this sense too, nah. ;)
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Nice! :D
Its so good to see you hate being poor, illerate etc. A break from "poverty is good" kind of assumption. :P ;D
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