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Chemistry Paper 22 3rd Nov
« on: November 04, 2010, 05:00:46 pm »
Guys how did you find it :)

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Re: Chemistry Paper 22 3rd Nov
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2010, 05:19:34 pm »
Guys how did you find it :)

It was so simple that I made lots of silly mistakes. >:(

But I managed to cover up some of them at the last minute ;D

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Re: Chemistry Paper 22 3rd Nov
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2010, 05:48:11 pm »
thats good.. atleast u covered them up :) how did u find question one.. what were ur gases, volumes and the mr?

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Re: Chemistry Paper 22 3rd Nov
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2010, 04:26:44 am »
thats good.. atleast u covered them up :) how did u find question one.. what were ur gases, volumes and the mr?

Ooh...........I never expected this kind of question. I messed it up in the beginning but then I finally resolved it. :D

Hmm.........my answers are :
i) Oxygen - 20 cm3 has been used
ii) Carbon dioxide - 10 cm3 has been formed.

A was methane CH4

Did we have to find the Mr in that ???

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Re: Chemistry Paper 22 3rd Nov
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2010, 06:14:52 am »
wow luck yu.. i just could not find it :( so what are u expecting out of 60 in that paper

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Re: Chemistry Paper 22 3rd Nov
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2010, 06:19:50 am »
wow luck yu.. i just could not find it :( so what are u expecting out of 60 in that paper

Really? what did you get?

Mr............i think it was another number. i got it to be 42 and the hydrocarbon was propene this time.

Hmm...........i don't know. I think I made a little mistake in the last number and the processes of cracking. Am not sure of my answers for both of them. Otherwise the paper was kinda easy.

I hope to get more than 50. What about you?

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Re: Chemistry Paper 22 3rd Nov
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2010, 06:23:53 am »
wait is this the paper where they had things on the contact process and stuff?  ???

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Re: Chemistry Paper 22 3rd Nov
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2010, 06:28:09 am »
wait is this the paper where they had things on the contact process and stuff?  ???

Contact process??

No, we got something on Haber's process. I guess you sat for another variant. ;)

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Re: Chemistry Paper 22 3rd Nov
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2010, 07:12:06 am »
my paper has contact process, paper 23, the paper was okay, but i messed up. Deadly King, since you are so awesome, do you know what is the shape of C2O? they asked us to draw it (giving us info- like it should be C-C-O, and no unpaired electrons, and one of the atom is surrounded by only 6 electrons)

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Re: Chemistry Paper 22 3rd Nov
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2010, 07:13:58 am »
CO2 is linear in shape.

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Re: Chemistry Paper 22 3rd Nov
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2010, 07:15:45 am »
Oh, C2O is linear in shape as well.

I thought you meant CO2

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Re: Chemistry Paper 22 3rd Nov
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2010, 07:33:50 am »
my paper has contact process, paper 23, the paper was okay, but i messed up. Deadly King, since you are so awesome, do you know what is the shape of C2O? they asked us to draw it (giving us info- like it should be C-C-O, and no unpaired electrons, and one of the atom is surrounded by only 6 electrons)

Do you have any more details about the question ???

Did it suggest that it is a dimer?

Because oxygen usually has two lone pairs of electrons. If it donates both of them and as well as forming two normal covalent bonds, it will have eight bonded electrons.

No unpaired electrons in the whole molecule or only on carbon or oxygen?

Oh, C2O is linear in shape as well.

I thought you meant CO2

I don't think so. :-[

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Re: Chemistry Paper 22 3rd Nov
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2010, 08:32:20 am »
The question is about about free radical.. definition, and why NH2 as free radical, its C2O, and not CO2. i don't really get the question, i wrote bent as my answer, :D 

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Re: Chemistry Paper 22 3rd Nov
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2010, 10:06:59 am »
The question is about about free radical.. definition, and why NH2 as free radical, its C2O, and not CO2. i don't really get the question, i wrote bent as my answer, :D 

Ahaaaa......now it's clearer.

Compound C2O gotta be : C=C=O

The first carbon atom (left) has two bond pairs of electrons and one lone pair of electron. Hence in all it has 6 electrons around it.

This same carbon will be the radical. ;)

Am afraid the answer is not bent.  :-[

Ari was right. It has to be linear.

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Re: Chemistry Paper 22 3rd Nov
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2010, 10:57:53 am »
Ahaaaa......now it's clearer.

Compound C2O gotta be : C=C=O

The first carbon atom (left) has two bond pairs of electrons and one lone pair of electron. Hence in all it has 6 electrons around it.

This same carbon will be the radical. ;)

Am afraid the answer is not bent.  :-[

Ari was right. It has to be linear.



I think i drew it correctly. i wrote bent cos there's lone pair(which i know- its wrong now), its okay.. but why is it linear, is it because as long as there's 2 bond pair, its linear? ignore the lone pairs? (trying to learn, paper 1 left)..  :D