Author Topic: Edexcel CHEMISTRY DOUBTS!!!!  (Read 254104 times)

Offline -Cornea

  • Klamata
  • SF Immigrant
  • **
  • Posts: 116
  • Reputation: 49541
Re: Edexcel CHEMISTRY DOUBTS!!!!
« Reply #1575 on: December 18, 2011, 02:02:12 pm »
Laughter is the shock absorber that eases the blow of life ! =)

Offline The Golden Girl =D

  • Without Allah I'm nothing <3
  • Honorary Member
  • SF Overlord
  • *****
  • Posts: 13757
  • Reputation: 65532
  • Ain't Nothin worth your tears =D
    • www.thegoldengirl157.blogspot.com
Verily, in the remembrance of Allah do hearts find rest(13:28)

Please, Don't forget to Include GG in your Prayers =D

Offline dk bose

  • SF Immigrant
  • **
  • Posts: 105
  • Reputation: 826
Re: Edexcel CHEMISTRY DOUBTS!!!!
« Reply #1577 on: December 21, 2011, 02:26:40 pm »
hey,people!! could anyone try to solve my this doubt???the question is as follows-

(a)Aluminium is extracted by electrolysis of Al2O3.What is the maximum mass of the metal that could be obtained from 1 tonne of the oxide?
(b)If the yield of the electrolysis plant is 90%,what mass of the oxide must be used to produce 1 tonne of aluminium?

is there no one be able to answer my this question?its from the Edexcel AS chemistry revision guide.1st chapter,practice exam questions section. is there no specific teacher here to answer my doubts??

Offline Romeesa-Chan

  • Chère
  • Global Moderator
  • SF Overlord
  • *****
  • Posts: 10821
  • Reputation: 65535
  • Gender: Female
  • "Be the person you want to meet."
Re: Edexcel CHEMISTRY DOUBTS!!!!
« Reply #1578 on: December 21, 2011, 02:42:42 pm »
is there no one be able to answer my this question?its from the Edexcel AS chemistry revision guide.1st chapter,practice exam questions section. is there no specific teacher here to answer my doubts??
Extraction of Aluminium is not in the portion. :-\
Download SF Magazine 2012 here.

Offline The Golden Girl =D

  • Without Allah I'm nothing <3
  • Honorary Member
  • SF Overlord
  • *****
  • Posts: 13757
  • Reputation: 65532
  • Ain't Nothin worth your tears =D
    • www.thegoldengirl157.blogspot.com
Re: Edexcel CHEMISTRY DOUBTS!!!!
« Reply #1579 on: December 21, 2011, 05:50:28 pm »
is Water Polar ?

Please explain in Detail.

Thanks in Advance =]
Verily, in the remembrance of Allah do hearts find rest(13:28)

Please, Don't forget to Include GG in your Prayers =D

Offline Romeesa-Chan

  • Chère
  • Global Moderator
  • SF Overlord
  • *****
  • Posts: 10821
  • Reputation: 65535
  • Gender: Female
  • "Be the person you want to meet."
Re: Edexcel CHEMISTRY DOUBTS!!!!
« Reply #1580 on: December 21, 2011, 05:56:52 pm »
is Water Polar ?

Please explain in Detail.

Thanks in Advance =]
Yes, it's polar.

The electrons spend more time orbiting the oxygen nucleus than orbiting the two hydrogen nuclei, leaving the oxygen more negatively charged and the hydrogen more positively charge. Therefore, the entire molecule is "Polar", that is with one end slightly positive and one end slightly negative.

The two ends of these polar molecules can attract one another (positive to negative).
Download SF Magazine 2012 here.

Offline The Golden Girl =D

  • Without Allah I'm nothing <3
  • Honorary Member
  • SF Overlord
  • *****
  • Posts: 13757
  • Reputation: 65532
  • Ain't Nothin worth your tears =D
    • www.thegoldengirl157.blogspot.com
Re: Edexcel CHEMISTRY DOUBTS!!!!
« Reply #1581 on: December 21, 2011, 06:03:31 pm »
Jazaki Allah khair hun <3
Verily, in the remembrance of Allah do hearts find rest(13:28)

Please, Don't forget to Include GG in your Prayers =D

Offline Romeesa-Chan

  • Chère
  • Global Moderator
  • SF Overlord
  • *****
  • Posts: 10821
  • Reputation: 65535
  • Gender: Female
  • "Be the person you want to meet."
Re: Edexcel CHEMISTRY DOUBTS!!!!
« Reply #1582 on: December 21, 2011, 06:18:12 pm »
Jazaki Allah khair hun <3
JazakAllah khairon.

Good luck, sis. (:
Download SF Magazine 2012 here.

Offline The Golden Girl =D

  • Without Allah I'm nothing <3
  • Honorary Member
  • SF Overlord
  • *****
  • Posts: 13757
  • Reputation: 65532
  • Ain't Nothin worth your tears =D
    • www.thegoldengirl157.blogspot.com
Re: Edexcel CHEMISTRY DOUBTS!!!!
« Reply #1583 on: December 21, 2011, 06:23:28 pm »
you too ;)

(I asked  cuz whale and SZM wanted to know :) )
Verily, in the remembrance of Allah do hearts find rest(13:28)

Please, Don't forget to Include GG in your Prayers =D

Offline Romeesa-Chan

  • Chère
  • Global Moderator
  • SF Overlord
  • *****
  • Posts: 10821
  • Reputation: 65535
  • Gender: Female
  • "Be the person you want to meet."
Re: Edexcel CHEMISTRY DOUBTS!!!!
« Reply #1584 on: December 21, 2011, 06:28:06 pm »
you too ;)

(I asked  cuz whale and SZM wanted to know :) )
Alright. I hope they got it now. :D
Download SF Magazine 2012 here.

Offline dk bose

  • SF Immigrant
  • **
  • Posts: 105
  • Reputation: 826
Re: Edexcel CHEMISTRY DOUBTS!!!!
« Reply #1585 on: December 21, 2011, 10:51:57 pm »
Extraction of Aluminium is not in the portion. :-\

Didnt you read the question properly,its not abt extraction of aluminium.its about reacting masses,i find it really hard,if u can plzz solve it!!!

Offline The Golden Girl =D

  • Without Allah I'm nothing <3
  • Honorary Member
  • SF Overlord
  • *****
  • Posts: 13757
  • Reputation: 65532
  • Ain't Nothin worth your tears =D
    • www.thegoldengirl157.blogspot.com
Re: Edexcel CHEMISTRY DOUBTS!!!!
« Reply #1586 on: December 22, 2011, 01:10:52 pm »
dk : You could be a little bit more nice yuh know :)
Verily, in the remembrance of Allah do hearts find rest(13:28)

Please, Don't forget to Include GG in your Prayers =D

Offline ~ Miss Relina ~

  • SF Senior Citizen
  • *****
  • Posts: 611
  • Reputation: 65535
  • Gender: Female
  • Every rose has a thorn
Re: Edexcel CHEMISTRY DOUBTS!!!!
« Reply #1587 on: December 23, 2011, 10:44:16 am »
attached plz cooperate with that graph I can't do it

~~~Yarab everything turns alright at the end ~~~
    -----------Ameeeeeeeeeeen------------

Offline SZM

  • SF Immigrant
  • **
  • Posts: 114
  • Reputation: 40569
Re: Edexcel CHEMISTRY DOUBTS!!!!
« Reply #1588 on: December 24, 2011, 05:27:56 am »
@ somebody on SF (Romeesa Chan),

I saw ur reply about whether the water is said to be a polar molecule or not.. Actually Golden Girl has posted this question here, because as she said, that Whale and I was arguing about this case through chatroom. He doesnt agree of why water molecule is said to be a polar.

My dear so far I agree, that-

1. water molecule is a polar molecule. But in biology we never say water molecule is a polar molecule ONLY. we say water is said to be a dipolar molecule. Am i correct?? The reason is because under the structure of a water molecule, it has one oxygen atom and two hydrogen atoms. One Oxygen atom has slightly negatively charged at its end and TWO not one hydrogen atoms have slightly positively charged at its end.
WE CALLED WATER IS SAID TO BE A DIPOLAR MOLECULE, because under the structure of water molecule, it has two oppositely charged from oxygen to hydrogen ions in left side as well as right side/. Because of two sides, we consider that they have two oppositely charged ions and therefore we called them a dipolar molecule. AM I CORRECT??? if I am wrong, pls correct me..

2. Oxygen atom has slightly negatively charged at its end and two hydrogen atoms have slightly positively charged at its end// But my question is, how oxygen atom became slightly negatively charged and hydrogen atom became slightly positively charged? The reason that I know so far is, because oxygen atom is said to be the highest electronegative element, which is electron lover. That means oxygen atom has its capability to pull the SHARED ELECTRON towards its nucleus away from hydrogen atom. AM i correct.  That means I want to know who is pulling the SHARED ELECTRON?? so far I know to pull, it should be unlike charges in the form of attraction. So i thought the protons in the nucleus of an oxygen atom which has positively charged, is the one who pulls the shared electron, which is negatively charged, away from hydrogen atom. BECAUSE of pulling, the oxygen atom is going to gain a new electron , therefore it has become slightly negatively charged at its end, whereas the hydrogen atom is going to lose an electron, so therefore it has become slightly positive charged at its end, by obeying the octet rule of each atom.

I cannot agree , that the oxygen atom has become slightly negatively charged at its end and the hydrogen atom has become slightly positively charged at its end due to in terms of lone pairs./// LONE PAIRS do not do any effect on that, it does in other effect, which brought about different shapes and different value for bond angle from tetrahedron shape to angular bent shape. In oxygen atom , it has 2 lone pairs meaning 4 electrons as well as non-bonding electrons, whereas in hydrogen atom , it has no lone pairs, but it has bonding pairs of electron on one side as well as on other side. Why does it has effect on that,  so far I know is, because of the repulsion, the distance between like charges which is lone pair to lone pair. NOT THE DISTANCE BETWEEN LONE PAIR TO THE NUCLEUS OF OXYGEN ATOM- (attraction). So the strength of the repulsion between lone pair to lone pair is greater than the strength of repulsion between lone pair to bond pair and bond pair to bond pair. Therefore new shape of water molecule is arranged in such a way to minimize the repulsion.

hope I hve answered my doubtful well. Pls correct me, if I am wrong. Then i can learn mistakes from u. Pls reply to me urgently.

waitn 4 ur reply asap.

wasalaam.

Offline Malak

  • Honorary Member
  • SF Farseer
  • *****
  • Posts: 4454
  • Reputation: 65534
  • A warm smile is the universal language of kindness
Re: Edexcel CHEMISTRY DOUBTS!!!!
« Reply #1589 on: December 24, 2011, 03:33:37 pm »
1 -
A molecule is polar if it has an overall charge i.e. the charge on the individual bonds do not cancel out.

You are confusing two terms, dipolar = dipoles and polarity is a different thing.
Water has a dipole nature i.e. seperation of charges which results in the water molecule being polar.

No where does the book says that water is not polar but dipolar.

2 - Well, I am just going to explain everything cause your question is very confusing :s

First of all, Oxygen is NOT the highest electronegative atom, it is Flourine.

Electronegativity is a measure of the attraction its atom has for a pair of electrons in a covalent bond.

Oxygen is more electronegative than Hydrogen therefore it will have greater attraction for the electrons in the covalent bond.

Just think about it,
Example, A neutral element like Chlorine (Cl). What will be the charge if it gains an electron? It will be negative.


Oxygen will therefore become slightly negative as the electron are more towards oxygen (it doesnt become negative, it will just have a dipole due to seperation of charges).
Hydrogen therefore becomes positive charge because electrons are away from it.


No one ever mentioned lone pairs, you are again confusing 2 things. Lone pairs determine the shape of the molecule.
If you are a man who degrades women then allow me to respectfully remind you that you came from ONE

Reminder to myself: Stop worrying and start working

SF magazine 2012 - Download here