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Re: C1 and C2 DOUBTS HERE!!!!!
« Reply #540 on: October 19, 2011, 09:42:03 pm »
4 sin x = tan x
4 sin x = sin x/cos x
Sin x (4 -1/cos x)=0
Sin x =0 so x =0,180,360
4-1/cos x =0 so cos x =1/4 so x =cos^-1 1/4 or 180-cos^-1 1/4

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Re: C1 and C2 DOUBTS HERE!!!!!
« Reply #541 on: October 22, 2011, 02:20:19 pm »
4 sin x = tan x
4 sin x = sin x/cos x
Sin x (4 -1/cos x)=0
Sin x =0 so x =0,180,360
4-1/cos x =0 so cos x =1/4 so x =cos^-1 1/4 or 180-cos^-1 1/4

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« Reply #542 on: October 23, 2011, 10:07:13 am »
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Re: C1 and C2 DOUBTS HERE!!!!!
« Reply #543 on: October 25, 2011, 03:33:44 pm »
another question to bother this thread about is here

for who have C2 book its on page 193 Q 6 in the revision exercise 3

what I don't understand is that the book's answer is 4 and when I did integration of the two parts of my  sketch , one area was -ve and other was +ve so I added them ignoring the -ve sign so...............are these steps right or I've just missed somethnig up ??? cause my anwser was ''9.5''

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Re: C1 and C2 DOUBTS HERE!!!!!
« Reply #544 on: October 25, 2011, 03:53:35 pm »
Integration gives you :

x4    
--- - x3
4

[(x4/4) - x3]42

[{((256/4) - 64) - (4)3) - {(16/4) - (2)3}]42

| [(0) - (-4)] | = 4
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Re: C1 and C2 DOUBTS HERE!!!!!
« Reply #545 on: October 25, 2011, 10:33:07 pm »
Integration gives you :

x4    
--- - x3
4

[(x4/4) - x3]42

[{((256/4) - 64) - (4)3) - {(16/4) - (2)3}]42

| [(0) - (-4)] | = 4

Thanks
but have you done a sketch ??? as when I've done a sketch the I found two parts above and under the curve that's why I used two intergration formulas one with upperlimit 4 and lowerlimt 3 (where the curve intersect the x-axis) and other intergration with the upperlimit 3 and lowerlimit 2 but i got it wrong ...........so my sketch may be wrong or what ???

anyways Thanks you very much ;)
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Re: C1 and C2 DOUBTS HERE!!!!!
« Reply #546 on: October 26, 2011, 07:08:51 am »
Thanks
but have you done a sketch ??? as when I've done a sketch the I found two parts above and under the curve that's why I used two intergration formulas one with upperlimit 4 and lowerlimt 3 (where the curve intersect the x-axis) and other intergration with the upperlimit 3 and lowerlimit 2 but i got it wrong ...........so my sketch may be wrong or what ???

anyways Thanks you very much ;)

Yes, your sketch may be incorrect.

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Re: C1 and C2 DOUBTS HERE!!!!!
« Reply #547 on: October 26, 2011, 08:20:21 pm »
Yes, your sketch may be incorrect.

but I think it may be right sorry for disturbing you but I'll write the steps if anything wrong tell me

x3-3x2=0
x2(x-3)=0
thus x = 0 or 3
so it may look like that attached
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« Reply #548 on: October 26, 2011, 09:29:14 pm »
Exactly right.

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« Reply #549 on: October 26, 2011, 10:13:42 pm »
Exactly right.
then what's wrong with  that integration question what is my mistake ???? I 'm really confused
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« Reply #550 on: October 26, 2011, 11:33:17 pm »
The graph is part below and part above the x axis.
Integrate between 2 and 3. This will be negative because it is below the x axis, so make it positive.
Integrate between 3 and 4. This will be positive.
Add the two areas to give the answer.

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« Reply #551 on: October 26, 2011, 11:36:19 pm »
The graph is part below and part above the x axis.
Integrate between 2 and 3. This will be negative because it is below the x axis, so make it positive.
Integrate between 3 and 4. This will be positive.
Add the two areas to give the answer.

I did so but my answer turned to be wrong  :( :(
and when Arthur did it with integration as a whole of upperlimit 4 and lowerlimit 2 it gave the book answer and that's what I'm confused about
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« Reply #552 on: October 27, 2011, 11:06:20 am »
I will do a full answer When I get home

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« Reply #553 on: October 27, 2011, 11:13:41 pm »
Here it is

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« Reply #554 on: October 28, 2011, 07:20:26 pm »
Here it is

exactly the same as my answer  ;)

but the problem is that the book's answer is 4  may be its wrong  ??? ??? ::)
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Integration gives you :

x4    
--- - x3
4

[(x4/4) - x3]42

[{((256/4) - 64) - (4)3) - {(16/4) - (2)3}]42

| [(0) - (-4)] | = 4



that's Arthur answer  

so what's your opinion Sir may be that book is wrong  ::)
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