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Teachers and Students => Debates => Topic started by: I'm a mistake - legalize abortion! on July 30, 2010, 05:40:31 pm
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Let's see each other's perspective. And argue. ;D
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Happiness is not having what you want, happiness is wanting what you have.
Happiness is being grateful for everything you got. Happiness is looking at the people below you who have no home, food, are in war or are sick then realizing how much in a better life you are. =]
This is weird, I was just talking about happiness to my friend few mins ago.
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Let us say we are having a glass of milk. Half is full and half is empty.
There are two types of people :
One who will look directly at the empty half and one whose eyes will be happy with the full half.
You sure know which one you are from those people.
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Happiness is not having what you want, happiness is wanting what you have.
So those who have nothing can't be happy?
Happiness is being grateful for everything you got. Happiness is looking at the people below you who have no home, food, are in war or are sick then realizing how much in a better life you are. =]
Let us say we are having a glass of milk. Half is full and half is empty.
There are two types of people :
One who will look directly at the empty half and one whose eyes will be happy with the full half.
You sure know which one you are from those people.
So then why is there the pursuit of happiness?
This is weird, I was just talking about happiness to my friend few mins ago.
Synchronicity. :D
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No one have nothing.
A poor person might be having good health while the rich one is sick. Health itself is the reason why a person should be happy.
God doesn't give a person everything. You might be smart and talented but you might not be good looking.
That is why, happiness is satisfaction. Being satisfied with whatever you have. Like that glass of milk example, it means looking at what you have not what you don't and being satisfied with it.
Everyone is responsible for their OWN happiness. It is you who can make yourself happy.
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Once we come to know the source of and the means to achieve happiness we can understand that our focus must be within ourselves, for happiness is an intrinsic quality of our true self.
So, I agree with Mony, happiness should come from within, you are responsible for how you feel.
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Then why do the things we do?
"I don't need happiness from within. I'll be happy when I....
am driving a porsche
live in a $5million mansion
win a billion $ lottery
have a family
am earning $.............
get married
find the partner of my dreams
get a new job"
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Right now.
12 August , when my result comes out is the first on my priority list.
secondly, I want to see Arsenal Win UCL.
Thats it.No long term planning
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Sorry I can't log into msn...:S
ISP!!!
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Having ppl who love u around u who love u the same way back , Appreciating what u have and being satisfied with it , looking at life with a positive attitude .
DR. Tarik Al-Suwaidan said : Happiness is when u enjoy everything u do .
his ex was : when he writes books his sons and relatives find it really boring while he finds it really enjoying cuz he know once he's done with it He'll be really happy
:)
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Islam.
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Then why do the things we do?
"I don't need happiness from within. I'll be happy when I....
am driving a porsche
live in a $5million mansion
win a billion $ lottery
have a family
am earning $.............
get married
find the partner of my dreams
get a new job"
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Those are wants. They are not necessities in life.
Often people always want more and the more they have, the more they want.
It is called unsatisfactory. You need to be satisfied with what you have to be happy and when you earn those wants you will be more happy. Reasons for happiness are unlimited, but it is you who choose them.
@Meticulous, all what I mentioned above is from what I studied in Islam. =]
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For me, it is only MORE and MORE MONEY Which can make me happy. For those who are wondering, I regularly trade a large portfolio of shares. Nothing, I repeat, NOTHING makes me more happy than making a large gain. I want more and more money from God, which is the ultimate and first priority.
I agree that no two persons will have the same criteria. For me, it is more and more money and wealth. Which ultimately leads to more power of you among people. Everybody fears you and respects you. This is what leads to happiness for me. Pretty much nothing else.
PS. I know many people will scoff by reading my post. So, please, be gentle. :P
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I won't retort here. I will just state what I feel.
Now, the ultimate aim of all human endeavors is happiness. Everything we do is aimed at achieving happiness.
But do we really look satisfied with what we have? Nope.
One cannot be happy without peace. There is no happiness for a person who always doubts..
One way of achieving peace is prayer. Yoga or meditation also helps you achieve peace. You connect with your soul and you find eternal bliss.
A man is made by his belief, As he believes, so he is.
Materialistic gain is temporary. For transcendental happiness to find you, you should be able to give up anything materialistic and work towards peace and union with your soul.
Union of souls will bring peace and hence happiness will follow. Love is a subset of happiness.
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For me, it is only MORE and MORE MONEY Which can make me happy. For those who are wondering, I regularly trade a large portfolio of shares. Nothing, I repeat, NOTHING makes me more happy than making a large gain. I want more and more money from God, which is the ultimate and first priority.
I agree that no two persons will have the same criteria. For me, it is more and more money and wealth. Which ultimately leads to more power of you among people. Everybody fears you and respects you. This is what leads to happiness for me. Pretty much nothing else.
PS. I know many people will scoff by reading my post. So, please, be gentle. :P
Only money? So, let us say that you have money and you are the richest man on earth but you have a very bad disease, you don't have a family or friends and only the people you deal with in life are businessmen. All the people respect you for your money but not for who you are and you know very well that once you will lose your money, no one will stand by your side.
Is that happiness for you? You said the only thing which brings you happiness is money.
@Ahana, yes I agree : 'One cannot be happy without peace. There is no happiness for a person who always doubts.'
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Only money? So, let us say that you have money and you are the richest man on earth but you have a very bad disease, you don't have a family or friends and only the people you deal with in life are businessmen. All the people respect you for your money but not for who you are and you know very well that once you will lose your money, no one will stand by your side.
Is that happiness for you? You said the only thing which brings you happiness is money.
@Ahana, yes I agree : 'One cannot be happy without peace. There is no happiness for a person who always doubts.'
Yes. Of course I will be VERY happy if that happens.
Firstly, being rich, I will of course take regular medical checkups. This will substantially reduce my chances of getting a bad disease by very much. But still if I do have that kind of disease, even cancer is curable these days. Eg. Microsoft executive Paul Allen had blood cancer. He was cured with a 2 year treatment.
And there is no reason why my family should desert me just because I am so rich.They will be proud of me, that I am so rich. They will love me so much more because of my money. I will love them too. So, this situation is not possible as I see no reason why my family will desert me when I am so rich.
So, the circumstances you described has a very low chance of occuring in the first place. And even if they occur I will still be able to fight them to my advantage as I described earlier.
Now lets suppose (God forbid), I am a poor or a middle class person. I have an incurable disease. My family deserts me because I cannot even feed them to their desire because I have little money. There will be no chance of curing my disease because I cannot afford medical treatment of any form. My family hates me because I have little money. I cannot afford any luxury at all. Or only a little.
Will I be happy? Will YOU Be happy in this situation? N-O.
The criteria of happiness will differ. But for me it is only money and more and more money and more money than I can think of which makes me happy. Others will have different perception, no doubt. But for me its MORE and MORE MONEY.
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happiness- achieving all that i want to...making all the people i care for, as happy as i can. happines-doing everything in my power help all the ones who need it!
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@Stylish,
You need to know something, money doesn't buy everything in this world as you think. Money doesn't buy happiness.
You can convince yourself as much as you can and make it your belief that money would be a cause of happiness but it alone will never make you fully satisfied. The more you get, the more you will want.
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@Stylish,
You need to know something, money doesn't buy everything in this world as you think. Money doesn't buy happiness.
You can convince yourself as much as you can and make it your belief that money would be a cause of happiness but it alone will never make you fully satisfied. The more you get, the more you will want.
Only in movies do we see that money doesn't buy everything. In real life, it can do anything, other than avert death. And I already explained how money can be used to cope with any situation in real life in my earlier post, successfully.
Yes. The more money I have, the more I want. In fact, do you realize it is a self realizing thing and thus, can lead to more and more happiness? Let me explain.
Consider a poor person, he has only $100. Next year, he aims to make $50. He does it and next year, he has $150. Now he wants more. He wants to make another $100 next year. It will be EASIER for him to achieve this aim, considering a compound and variable rate of PERCENTAGE return on his investment. So, in fact, the more money you have, THE EASIER IT IS TO MAKE MORE AND MORE MONEY. AND of course I will want more and more money. Exponential rate of money. So, it becomes EASIER and self fulfilling to earn MORE and MORE MONEY which I want!
This is true because in any investment, it is the % return which matters, not the lump sum. If I have a billion dollars iA, I will want another billion dollars, which is more and more money. Because the rule of PERCENTAGE return, that will be so much easier for me to achieve iA! So, since it becomes easier to earn exponential amount of money, I will be realizing my aim of more and more money. Since I will be realizing it, I will definitely be more and more happy.
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i m happy as long as i dnt have any problems . no matter where i am or what i have. :)
n i agree ..money cant buy happiness ...it may make u happy for a period of time...
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Only in movies do we see that money doesn't buy everything. In real life, it can do anything, other than avert death. And I already explained how money can be used to cope with any situation in real life in my earlier post, successfully.
Yes. The more money I have, the more I want. In fact, do you realize it is a self realizing thing and thus, can lead to more and more happiness? Let me explain.
Consider a poor person, he has only $100. Next year, he aims to make $50. He does it and next year, he has $150. Now he wants more. He wants to make another $100 next year. It will be EASIER for him to achieve this aim, considering a compound and variable rate of PERCENTAGE return on his investment. So, in fact, the more money you have, THE EASIER IT IS TO MAKE MORE AND MORE MONEY. AND of course I will want more and more money. Exponential rate of money. So, it becomes EASIER and self fulfilling to earn MORE and MORE MONEY which I want!
This is true because in any investment, it is the % return which matters, not the lump sum. If I have a billion dollars iA, I will want another billion dollars, which is more and more money. Because the rule of PERCENTAGE return, that will be so much easier for me to achieve iA! So, since it becomes easier to earn exponential amount of money, I will be realizing my aim of more and more money. Since I will be realizing it, I will definitely be more and more happy.
I know this girl. She is extremely rich and part of her family comes on the tv. They are famous as in. She would have ANYTHING she wants because she always had the money to buy everything BUT her mother and father wouldn't get along. Lots of fights would happen between her parents and it was official that they were going to get divorced. Was she happy? No. Her mom was crying all day and her dad wasn't happy.
How can money help in that Borakk? You can't buy happiness. You never can.
I agree about having some money in your life to live with but there are far more important things in life other than money.
About you having a medical care because you are rich, well never underestimate what life can bring you.
Money is just a decoration for this life and it doesn't last forever. It alone will never be the reason for happiness.
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I know this girl. She is extremely rich and part of her family comes on the tv. They are famous as in. She would have ANYTHING she wants because she always had the money to buy everything BUT her mother and father wouldn't get along. Lots of fights would happen between her parents and it was official that they were going to get divorced. Was she happy? No. Her mom was crying all day and her dad wasn't happy.
How can money help in that Borakk? You can't buy happiness. You never can.
I agree about having some money in your life to live with but there are far more important things in life other than money.
About you having a medical care because you are rich, well never underestimate what life can bring you.
Money is just a decoration for this life and it doesn't last forever. It alone will never be the reason for happiness.
Well, that girl's parents obviously doesn't know how to use money and are just busy quarreling with each other. Its not money's fault. Its their management's fault. And Money can still help them. Why not hold a mutual discussion between the hubby and the wife? Maybe the wife wants many things, but the hubby is just too stingy, though rich? Or he doesn't want to give his wife what she wants? Like a luxurious house in her own personal name (maybe her hubby just keeps all properties in his own name and not one in his wife or daughter's name)? Just spend some money and meet the wants! MONEY can help to solve EVERYTHING.
I do believe of any incurable disease. Now ask yourself- do you have a higher chance of catching that kinda disease when you are very rich and do regular medical checkups? Or is it higher in a middle class or poor family who are not bothered to do any regular medical checkup because it would cost too much money? The chance in case of a very rich health conscious person is substantially less.
So, it is only more and more and more money than I can think of which can make me happy. Nothing else.
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For me..happiness is self satisfaction of what u have and what Allah has written for u..whether it is a thing that u always wanted but never got or getting something u never wanted..
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Well, that girl's parents obviously doesn't know how to use money and are just busy quarreling with each other. Its not money's fault. Its their management's fault. And Money can still help them. Why not hold a mutual discussion between the hubby and the wife? Maybe the wife wants many things, but the hubby is just too stingy, though rich? Or he doesn't want to give his wife what she wants? Like a luxurious house in her own personal name (maybe her hubby just keeps all properties in his own name and not one in his wife or daughter's name)? Just spend some money and meet the wants! MONEY can help to solve EVERYTHING.
There is something called love. As I said, they were rich and famous. The mother, father and daughter had everything they wanted. =]
Money can't help solve everything. Hollywood stars are the richest and they get divorced. Why couldn't money fix everything then?
Why couldn't money make this world in peace without wars? Actually, money is the reason why people kill each other nowadays.
About people getting sick, well it is not about the chance of getting a disease, it is God who gives health to people so don't think because you are rich, you are less likely to become sick. Never think in that manner because it is not right.
So, you are saying that all poor people in this world are not happy?
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There is something called love. As I said, they were rich and famous. The mother, father and daughter had everything they wanted. =]
Money can't help solve everything. Hollywood stars are the richest and they get divorced. Why couldn't money fix everything then?
Why couldn't money make this world in peace without wars? Actually, money is the reason why people kill each other nowadays.
About people getting sick, well it is not about the chance of getting a disease, it is God who gives health to people so don't think because you are rich, you are less likely to become sick. Never think in that manner because it is not right.
So, you are saying that all poor people in this world are not happy?
Yes. They had everything they wanted. But more information on what this 'everything' is. I'm sure either the husband or the wife doesn't get SOMETHING what they want, for which they are quarreling. And EVERYTHING can be bought with money. They just need to CORRECTLY identify what is this something which one of them is not getting. And use money to fulfill this want.
You were talking about love. Even love can be bought with money. If I have very excessive amount of money, my wife will love me automatically if I satisfy all her needs and wants with my money. As simple as that. =]
Of course its Allah who gives health. I fully believe in this. Why shouldn't he give me good health if I am very very rich by the grace of him and pray to him regularly? He will definitely. He is ever merciful and ever giving. No doubt about that.
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If I have very excessive amount of money, my wife will love me automatically if I satisfy all her needs and wants with my money. As simple as that. =]
she wont be loving you.. she will be loving the money :)
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she wont be loving you.. she will be loving the money :)
yupp..well said hacker +rep ;)
Besides I think it will be a challenging way to start life with ur new partner..from the zero step towards achieving success.. Which includes having more money and being happy.. In that way I think this will be the right way to live..love of the partner and not his/her money :)
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she wont be loving you.. she will be loving the money :)
Exactly.
And what is happiness?
Very simple. Take a wheel, a brush and some white paint. Make a white dot with the paint in one exact place on the wheel.
And as you walk, roll the wheel with you.
That's happiness.
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Oh my. I got so many people scoffing down on me. Please have a look at my earlier posts in this topic. ;) :P
As I said in my first post, criteria of happiness will differ. For me, its more money and wealth. Other people will naturally have different criteria. I'm well aware of that. So, I won't argue much. I already explained earlier.
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Oh my. I got so many people scoffing down on me. Please have a look at my earlier posts in this topic. ;) :P
As I said in my first post, criteria of happiness will differ. For me, its more money and wealth. Other people will naturally have different criteria. I'm well aware of that. So, I won't argue much. I already explained earlier.
your not totally wrong ..its just some aspects :P
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Ya, happiness is subjective. I agree.
But question, subjective on what?
On people, or... on time?
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Ya, happiness is subjective. I agree.
But question, subjective on what?
On people, or... on time?
It varies actually. People can be classified into two groups: those who have an strong ultimate aim and are willing to work for it. And those who don't have any aim but just takes life with a 'happy go lucky' attitude.
In the former case, it is subjective on people. Happiness can only be achieved when the ultimate aim is fulfilled in the way wanted. Their criteria for happiness is fixed.
In the latter case, on time. Because they are just happy to fulfill their day to day activities successfully. If they are unsuccessful in any daily activity, they will become unhappy. Their criteria for happiness is today, to pass a test. And tomorrow to hang on with friends and day after tomorrow, to learn lessons correctly. It varies tremendously for them.
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It varies actually. People can be classified into two groups: those who have an strong ultimate aim and are willing to work for it. And those who don't have any aim but just takes life with a 'happy go lucky' attitude.
In the former case, it is subjective on people. Happiness can only be achieved when the ultimate aim is fulfilled in the way wanted. Their criteria for happiness is fixed.
In the latter case, on time. Because they are just happy to fulfill their day to day activities successfully. If they are unsuccessful in any daily activity, they will become unhappy. Their criteria for happiness is today, to pass a test. And tomorrow to hang on with friends and day after tomorrow, to learn lessons correctly. It varies tremendously for them.
What about human wants?
Second category you described, don't they have wants?
And wants... aren't they subjective?
Happiness is achievement; one is happy when one achieves what one desires. If we go by that, then everybody's description of happiness fits in.
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What about human wants?
Second category you described, don't they have wants?
And wants... aren't they subjective?
Happiness is achievement; one is happy when one achieves what one desires. If we go by that, then everybody's description of happiness fits in.
Happiness is achievement; one is happy when one achieves what one desires.
Exactly. The two types I described is just people with different pattern of wants. ;)
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Happiness is serenity!
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Happiness is achievement; one is happy when one achieves what one desires.
Exactly. The two types I described is just people with different pattern of wants. ;)
Yeah... But there's another problem: our wants keeps changing with time. Then, the perception of happiness too does change.
Happiness is serenity!
So true. One want that maybe will never change.
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nice points raised and answered perfectly who believe in what actually happiness is.
I agree with Shoshou that happiness is your inner satisfaction, inner peace. until and unless your needs are not fulfilled... you are not happy but when it comes to wants.. then its not that you are not happy. its that you are not satisfied or convinced! Simple ;)
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Live your life without any regret. That's happiness for me! ;D
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HAPPINESS is acceptance!!!
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In my opinion, happiness is not a state of affairs but a state of mind. This is the reason why some people seem happy and content with what little they have, while others seem to bicker at the slightest problems in their life. Yes, there are carefree people who go with the flow while others like to have some control over their life, but at the same time happiness comes from within. Achievement of a goal cannot 'define' happiness unless the person 'decides' that this is how he'll be happy. We ourselves put it down that we cannot be happy unless we are in a particular state of affairs, not our minds. Yes, it is hard to be cheery and gleeful when you're broke and there's a death in the family but it's not impossible to come out of it. And that is the only true way we can be happy or unhappy; we should not let the state of affairs be our guide but our own mind.
And you know something, for those goal-oriented, passionate people? It's better to be happy rather than ticked off with your fate half the while because it reduces the strain on your head. Stress is good but in measured doses and if you don't let in some fresh air every once in a while, you compromise your abilities to handle problems and actually slow down yourself in achieving your goal(s).
So coming from me: learn to be happy in the most adverse of situations because this is something you decide--be thankful of the blessings we have, because there are almost a few million people who cannot even perceive the material and emotional tranquility of our lives. And even if not, what's a life without some challenges? So face them head on with a grin on your face.
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wow that is a very difficult question to answer .....
happiness for me is dreaming with the confidence that someday , overcoming all the difficulties, i would realise it :D :D
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Happiness fer me = Seeing my loved ones happy :D