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Title: All Mechanics DOUBTS HERE!!!
Post by: Saladin on May 04, 2010, 12:43:39 pm
Please post your M1 doubts here!!!!!

I do Edexcel M1.
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Post by: halosh92 on May 04, 2010, 01:48:48 pm
two particles P and Q of masses 3kg and 6kg respectively are attached to the ends of a  light inextensible string.
the string passes over a smooth fixed pulley . the system is released from rest with both masses a distance of 2m
above a horizontal floor. find how long it takes for particle Q to hit the floor.
assuming particle P does not reach the pulley find its greatest height above the floor

i got the time which is 1.11 but i cant get the distance.
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Post by: Saladin on May 04, 2010, 01:55:12 pm
In 1 hour.
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Post by: halosh92 on May 04, 2010, 04:07:07 pm
could someone plzzz solve this?? ??? ??? ??? ???
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Post by: halosh92 on May 04, 2010, 04:10:08 pm
two particles P and Q of masses 1kg and 2kg respectively are hanging from the ends of  alight inextensible string which passes over  a smooth fixed pulley. the system is released from rest with both particles a distance 1.5m above a  floor. when the masses have been moving fir 0.5 s the string breaks. find the furthur time that elapses  before P hits the floor
 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 04, 2010, 04:18:46 pm
For 2kg 2g-t=2a
For 1 kg t-g=a
Add there two equations g=3a so a=g/3
When string breaks particle falls under gravity so a=g
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 04, 2010, 04:23:11 pm
Height=1.5+0.5*g/3*0.5^2 then use this height with s=1/2at^2 to find find t
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Post by: halosh92 on May 04, 2010, 04:26:58 pm
Height=1.5+0.5*g/3*0.5^2 then use this height with s=1/2at^2 to find find t

how did u exactly get this?
0.5*g/3*0.5^2    and for s=1/2at^2  do we use 9.8 for the acceleration?
thx
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Post by: halosh92 on May 04, 2010, 04:56:37 pm
two particles A and B of masses 0.5kg and 0.7kg respectively are connected by a light inextensible string. particle A rests on a smooth horizontal table 1m from a fixed smooth pulley and B hangs freely 0.75m above the floor. the system is released from rest with the string taut. after 0.5s the string breaks.
find:
a) the distance the particles haved moved when the string broke
b) the velocity of the particles when the string breaks
c) the furthur time that elapses before A reaches the floor, given that the table is 0.9m high.


how to do part c ??
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Post by: Saladin on May 04, 2010, 04:59:10 pm
can you please send the exact question paper. I need to see that.
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Post by: halosh92 on May 04, 2010, 05:02:13 pm
can you please send the exact question paper. I need to see that.

its from my textbook actually :S
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Post by: Khey [Rainbow] on May 04, 2010, 05:13:02 pm
A large crate of mass 40kg lies at rest on rough horizontal ground. One end of the rope is attached to the crate and the rope makes an angle of 30 with ground as shown in the diagram. The tension of the rope is 150N and the crate is on the of moving along the plane.
By modelling the crate as a particle,
(a) Find the value of [mue], the cofficient of frction between the crate and the ground.
The rope remains at 30 degree to the ground but the tension init is increased to 200N.
(b) Find the acceleration of the crate.
 
Title: Re: All Mechanics DOUBTS HERE!!!
Post by: Saladin on May 04, 2010, 05:14:09 pm
Solving now, please be pateint. Will take 40 minutes.
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Post by: Saladin on May 04, 2010, 05:17:57 pm
two particles A and B of masses 0.5kg and 0.7kg respectively are connected by a light inextensible string. particle A rests on a smooth horizontal table 1m from a fixed smooth pulley and B hangs freely 0.75m above the floor. the system is released from rest with the string taut. after 0.5s the string breaks.
find:
a) the distance the particles haved moved when the string broke
b) the velocity of the particles when the string breaks
c) the furthur time that elapses before A reaches the floor, given that the table is 0.9m high.


how to do part c ??

u can also send me the book name and page number.
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Post by: halosh92 on May 04, 2010, 05:28:45 pm
u can also send me the book name and page number.

heinemann modular mechanics for edexcel AS and A level
pg113
q11
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Post by: nid404 on May 04, 2010, 05:31:48 pm
A large crate of mass 40kg lies at rest on rough horizontal ground. One end of the rope is attached to the crate and the rope makes an angle of 30 with ground as shown in the diagram. The tension of the rope is 150N and the crate is on the of moving along the plane.
By modelling the crate as a particle,
(a) Find the value of [mue], the cofficient of frction between the crate and the ground.
The rope remains at 30 degree to the ground but the tension init is increased to 200N.
(b) Find the acceleration of the crate.
 

a) u= F/R

F=150cos30
R=400-150sin30

u=130/325
  =0.4

b) horizontal force=Tcos30=200cos30=173.3N
       173-F(uR)=40a
       173-130=40a
       a=3.4m/s2
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Post by: Saladin on May 04, 2010, 05:33:39 pm
here u go.
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Post by: Khey [Rainbow] on May 04, 2010, 05:53:13 pm
Thanks to "nid404" and "the mysterious dude"
but both of u have differnt answers so m confused bout who's answer is right..but its alryt i will ask my teacher
once again Thanks alot ;D
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Post by: nid404 on May 04, 2010, 05:54:19 pm
lol...ohk

i dunno....I think R= mg-150sin30
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Post by: Saladin on May 04, 2010, 05:58:17 pm
Mine is, I did it the Edexcel method, and if it was 3.4 ms-2, that would have been too high a speed, considering that at 150, it would not move.
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Post by: MasterMath on May 04, 2010, 07:22:31 pm
I can help , give me a sec to look at the question!
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Post by: MasterMath on May 04, 2010, 07:26:12 pm
CONFRIMED , I got the same answers as The Mysterious Dude
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Post by: halosh92 on May 04, 2010, 08:03:17 pm
two particles P and Q of masses 1kg and 2kg respectively are hanging from the ends of  alight inextensible string which passes over  a smooth fixed pulley. the system is released from rest with both particles a distance 1.5m above a  floor. when the masses have been moving fir 0.5 s the string breaks. find the furthur time that elapses  before P hits the floor
 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

can someone solve this in more details please??
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Post by: Sue T on May 05, 2010, 10:18:25 am
jan 2007:
can ny1 solve the last question 7(f)?
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Post by: halosh92 on May 05, 2010, 06:07:23 pm
a particle A of mass "m" which can move on the rough surface of an inclined plane at an angle X to the horizontal.
where X=arcsin 0.6
a second particle B of mass "2m" hangs freely attached to a light inextensible string which passes over a smooth pulley fixed at P. the other end of the string is attached at A . the coefficient of friction between A and the plane is 1/4.
B is initially hanging 1m above the ground and A is 2m from the pulley. when the system is released from rest with the string taut A moves up the plane
a) find the initial acceleration of A
b) calculate the total distance moved by A before it first comes to rest.
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Post by: cashem'up on May 05, 2010, 07:16:11 pm
Thanks to "nid404" and "the mysterious dude"
but both of u have differnt answers so m confused bout who's answer is right..but its alryt i will ask my teacher
once again Thanks alot ;D

no i am pretty sure nid404 is correct because to find the the Normal Contact u have to find the resulting vertical downward force that box exerts on ground and then the normal will be same as that.
If u also think logically when ur pulling something at such an angle u will be lifting some of the weight off........ dont take this literally but logically so less force will be exerted on the ground...... u get wat i am saying
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Post by: cashem'up on May 05, 2010, 07:26:22 pm
two particles P and Q of masses 1kg and 2kg respectively are hanging from the ends of  alight inextensible string which passes over  a smooth fixed pulley. the system is released from rest with both particles a distance 1.5m above a  floor. when the masses have been moving fir 0.5 s the string breaks. find the furthur time that elapses  before P hits the floor
 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

hey halosh is the answer possibly 1.01 seconds
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Post by: cashem'up on May 05, 2010, 07:50:33 pm
a particle A of mass "m" which can move on the rough surface of an inclined plane at an angle X to the horizontal.
where X=arcsin 0.6
a second particle B of mass "2m" hangs freely attached to a light inextensible string which passes over a smooth pulley fixed at P. the other end of the string is attached at A . the coefficient of friction between A and the plane is 1/4.
B is initially hanging 1m above the ground and A is 2m from the pulley. when the system is released from rest with the string taut A moves up the plane
a) find the initial acceleration of A
b) calculate the total distance moved by A before it first comes to rest.

answer to (a) should be 4m/s2
and to (b) 1.99 m

if iam correct i will explain , dont want to confuse you with wrong answrs.......:P
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Post by: halosh92 on May 05, 2010, 08:10:15 pm
answer to (a) should be 4m/s2
and to (b) 1.99 m

if iam correct i will explain , dont want to confuse you with wrong answrs.......:P

this is the exact answer:
3.92 m/s
1.5 m
thankyou  ;D
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Post by: immortal on May 05, 2010, 11:13:46 pm
here u go.
using this method i got a different ans.

u=0.3997
200cos30-(u*(40g-200sin30)=40a
a=1.33
If i replace da red wit 150sin30, i get ur ans.
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Post by: cashem'up on May 06, 2010, 08:16:07 am
this is the exact answer:
3.92 m/s
1.5 m
thankyou  ;D
this is the exact answer:
3.92 m/s
1.5 m
thankyou  ;D
hey halosh i got it..... i initially took g=10 lolzz.....
now we have a diagram something like this
ok now for the first part it will be easier to take the system as a whole
so lets find
the total resisting force
1.Weight is 9.8m
2. downward force due to weight is 0.6x9.8m = 5.88m
3. due to friction is F= 1/4 x 0.8(cos of arcsin0.6) x 9.8m= 1.96m
Total Resisting- 7.84m
Total Forward = 2mg =  19.6m
therefore resultant is
19.6m - 7.84m = 3ma
11.76=3a
a=3.92 m/s2


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Post by: halosh92 on May 06, 2010, 10:27:19 am
hey halosh i got it..... i initially took g=10 lolzz.....
now we have a diagram something like this
ok now for the first part it will be easier to take the system as a whole
so lets find
the total resisting force
1.Weight is 9.8m
2. downward force due to weight is 0.6x9.8m = 5.88m
3. due to friction is F= 1/4 x 0.8(cos of arcsin0.6) x 9.8m= 1.96m
Total Resisting- 7.84m
Total Forward = 2mg =  19.6m
therefore resultant is
19.6m - 7.84m = 3ma
11.76=3a
a=3.92 m/s2




thx alot :)
sorry for the trouble
 ;D ;D
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Post by: cashem'up on May 06, 2010, 10:41:35 am
haha no worries man no worries :P
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Post by: Sue T on May 06, 2010, 12:42:36 pm
jan 2007:
can ny1 solve the last question 7(f)?

 ???no1? ???
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Post by: halosh92 on May 06, 2010, 01:39:40 pm
at 2.p.m. the position vector relative to a lighthouse of ship A is (3i+j)km and its velocity is (-i + 5j)km/h
At the same time ship B has position vector (-i + 4j)km relative to the lighthouse and velocity (2i + 3j)km/h . find, after "t"h
a) the position vector of A relative to the lighthouse.
b)the position vector of B relative to the lighthouse.
c)the position vector of A relative to B.
d) find the time when A is due north of B.

can someone just solve part (d) how to come about such questions wat do they mean exactly?
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Post by: Phosu on May 06, 2010, 02:25:30 pm
A particle P is moving with constant velocity (–5i + 8j) m s–1. Find
(a) the speed of P,
(b) the direction of motion of P, giving your answer as a bearing.

At time t = 0, P is at the point A with position vector (7i – 10j) m relative to a fixed origin O. When t = 3 s, the velocity of P changes and it moves with velocity (ui + vj) m s–1, where u and v are constants. After a further 4 s, it passes through O and continues to move with velocity (ui + vj) m s–1.
(c) Find the values of u and v.

(d) Find the total time taken for P to move from A to a position which is due south of A.

plz tell me how to solve part d
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Post by: halosh92 on May 06, 2010, 02:44:08 pm
A particle P is moving with constant velocity (–5i + 8j) m s–1. Find
(a) the speed of P,
(b) the direction of motion of P, giving your answer as a bearing.

At time t = 0, P is at the point A with position vector (7i – 10j) m relative to a fixed origin O. When t = 3 s, the velocity of P changes and it moves with velocity (ui + vj) m s–1, where u and v are constants. After a further 4 s, it passes through O and continues to move with velocity (ui + vj) m s–1.
(c) Find the values of u and v.

(d) Find the total time taken for P to move from A to a position which is due south of A.

plz tell me how to solve part d
how did u do part (c) first of all?
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Post by: Phosu on May 06, 2010, 03:02:13 pm
first find the new vector position using the initial velocity, for first 3 sec
(7i-10j) +(-5+8j)3 = -8i+14j

after the boat reaches this vector position it changes speed, and travels for 4s until it reaches origin O which is O so
0=(-8i+14j)+(ui+vj)4
0=(-8+4u)i+(14+4v)j

now solve seperately
-8+4u=0  u=2
14+4v=0 v=-3.5
new velocity (2i-3.5j)
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Post by: halosh92 on May 08, 2010, 09:15:08 pm
at 2.p.m. the position vector relative to a lighthouse of ship A is (3i+j)km and its velocity is (-i + 5j)km/h
At the same time ship B has position vector (-i + 4j)km relative to the lighthouse and velocity (2i + 3j)km/h . find, after "t"h
a) the position vector of A relative to the lighthouse.
b)the position vector of B relative to the lighthouse.
c)the position vector of A relative to B.
d) find the time when A is due north of B.

can someone just solve part (d) how to come about such questions wat do they mean exactly?
could someone plzz solve this ?
 :-[ :-\
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Post by: T.Q on May 08, 2010, 09:48:26 pm
could someone plzz solve this ?
 :-[ :-\

(i) component of A will be equal to the (i) component of B
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Post by: halosh92 on May 08, 2010, 09:53:02 pm
(i) component of A will be equal to the (i) component of B

ok but is there some kind of rule for these questions they come very often...i mean i dont rili understand when the say
"north of B" or "east of B"
shouldnt one of the components be = 0 in such cases  :-\
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 09, 2010, 06:39:21 am
There is a page on my website astarmathsandphysics.com>a level maths notes> relative positions more on relative positions
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Post by: halosh92 on May 09, 2010, 08:06:26 pm
There is a page on my website astarmathsandphysics.com>a level maths notes> relative positions more on relative positions

thankyou :)
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Post by: Uchia on May 10, 2010, 10:11:24 am
2007 january paper question 7 last part

and thanks
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 10, 2010, 10:41:05 am
cie or edexcel
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Post by: Saladin on May 10, 2010, 11:05:54 am
2007 january paper question 7 last part

and thanks

I am quite sure its Edexcel.

s=0.8
a=0.98
u=0<br />
We need to find out the final velocity that the particle reaches after the other particle has fallen.

v^2=u^2+2as
v=1.25

Now we need to find the time it takes for it to stop, as the resultant force is not towards going down. Thus we have to find the acceleration.

mgsin(\theta)=ma
3gsin(30)=3a
-\frac{1}{2}g=a

Using this, calculate the time taken for the particle to come to rest.

v=0
u=1.25
a=\frac{1}{2}g

<br />v=u+at
0=1.25-\frac{1}{2}gt
t=0.255
The time taken to go up, is the time taken to go down, as there is same acceleration.
Thus the total time taken is 2t=0.51
Thus the total time taken is 0.51 seconds,
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Post by: Uchia on May 10, 2010, 11:46:08 am
lol yeah thnxs i used to solve it in the same way but the last step i am always confused about cz some old questions you didn't need to multiply by 2 but this question here required to do so y??
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Post by: Saladin on May 10, 2010, 12:38:35 pm
lol yeah thnxs i used to solve it in the same way but the last step i am always confused about cz some old questions you didn't need to multiply by 2 but this question here required to do so y??

Because it said that how long it takes for it to be taught again. That means up and down.
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Post by: Phosu on May 10, 2010, 01:37:20 pm
jun 02 ques 4a
i just straight off rote R=6gCos30+PSin30
but marking scheme has some other calculations, can someone plz explain how to get that.
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Post by: nid404 on May 10, 2010, 02:17:52 pm
must be edexcel...i don't have the paper
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 10, 2010, 02:19:17 pm
They resolved vertically. The answer is a the same
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Post by: melony on May 14, 2010, 10:49:55 am
help please, how do u determine the direction of the resultant of three coplanar forces. i.e mechanics paper 04/m/j/05
 ???
thank yu!  :)
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Post by: nid404 on May 14, 2010, 11:40:36 am
I assume it's the second question

check the diagram

A=7+3.2=10.2
B=3.83N
C=5.2N
D= 3N

Resolving these

A-C=5N
B-D=0.83N

Now find the resultant

R2= \sqrt{(5)^2+(0.83)^2}

R=5.09N

tan \theta= 0.83/5
\theta=9.43o anticlockwise from force of 7N



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Post by: melony on May 14, 2010, 08:15:21 pm
wow!! ofcourse!! thanks soo much nid!!.. +rp!
 ;)
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Post by: Fenomenoe9 on May 15, 2010, 09:04:46 am
Can any1 help in this question... please.

Its in June 2008 M1 paper question 5.

Two forces P and Q act on a particle at a point O. The force P has magnitude 15 N and
the force Q has magnitude X newtons. The angle between P and Q is 150°, as shown in
Figure 1. The resultant of P and Q is R.

Given that the angle between R and Q is 50°, find
(a) the magnitude of R,   (4)
(b) the value of X.    (5)

the diagram is something like this its in the question :

                     P
                        \
                         \  
                          \
                           \
                            \._________________ Q
                          O
angles is 150 ^^
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 15, 2010, 09:22:56 am
here
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Post by: Fenomenoe9 on May 15, 2010, 10:00:13 am
wow m8 thanks soo much!!! and good luck with ur website :D
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Post by: wakemeup on May 15, 2010, 07:08:50 pm
http://www.xtremepapers.net/Edexcel/Mathematics/2010%20January/21b_M1_January_2010.pdf

Q7(d)
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 15, 2010, 07:14:04 pm
See this

http://astarmathsandphysics.com/a_level_maths_notes/M1/a_level_maths_notes_m1_least_distance_between_two_moving_points.html
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Post by: melony on May 15, 2010, 09:53:09 pm
Quote
Can any1 help in this question... please.

Its in June 2008 M1 paper question 5.

Two forces P and Q act on a particle at a point O. The force P has magnitude 15 N and
the force Q has magnitude X newtons. The angle between P and Q is 150°, as shown in
Figure 1. The resultant of P and Q is R.

Given that the angle between R and Q is 50°, find
(a) the magnitude of R,   (4)
(b) the value of X.    (5)

the diagram is something like this its in the question :

                     P
                        \
                         \ 
                          \
                           \
                            \._________________ Q
                          O
angles is 150 ^^
Hey! i knw astars alredy dunt buh i gav it a shot usin a diff method if it helps.. :)
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Post by: halosh92 on May 15, 2010, 10:30:27 pm
edexcel
jan 2005 Q5b
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Post by: cooldude on May 16, 2010, 06:19:51 am
edexcel
jan 2005 Q5b

cud u please post the link of the paper as i'm not familiar with edexcel so i might end up solving the wrong question.
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Post by: halosh92 on May 16, 2010, 08:06:34 am
cud u please post the link of the paper as i'm not familiar with edexcel so i might end up solving the wrong question.
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Post by: cooldude on May 16, 2010, 08:38:13 am


a=3.2
for the 0.8 kg mass---->
8-T=0.8a
8-T=0.8*3.2
T=5.44 N
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Post by: melony on May 16, 2010, 06:26:09 pm
Quote
Insert Quote
edexcel
jan 2005 Q5b

There you go! ;D
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Post by: Fenomenoe9 on May 16, 2010, 07:08:20 pm
GUys Please this question is messing with me i dont get even what it means. PLease Help.

It's 2007 January Q7 part (f).

Appreciate the help peace..
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Post by: Fenomenoe9 on May 16, 2010, 07:14:21 pm
here m and thanks
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Post by: Fenomenoe9 on May 16, 2010, 07:15:39 pm
here m and thanks oh yahh the answer is 0.51s
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Post by: cooldude on May 16, 2010, 07:29:14 pm
here m and thanks

okay for this basically u find out the time the for P to come to rest and then double that value---.
as the string is now slack for this period there is no tension in the string so the deceleration of P will be-->
F=ma, -30sin30=3a
a=-10sin30=-5
the time taken for Q to reach the ground is-->
0.8=0.5*0.98*t^2
t=1.28 sec
therefore final speed of P=
v=0+(1.28*0.98)
v=1.24 m/s
0=1.24-5t
t=0.248 sec
this is the time P takes to come to rest therefore the time for it to become taut again will be double that=0.248*2=0.496 sec, By the way there might be some inaccuracies in the final answer as i did not use exact values

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Post by: cooldude on May 16, 2010, 07:32:05 pm
okay for this basically u find out the time the for P to come to rest and then double that value---.
as the string is now slack for this period there is no tension in the string so the deceleration of P will be-->
F=ma, -30sin30=3a
a=-10sin30=-5
the time taken for Q to reach the ground is-->
0.8=0.5*0.98*t^2
t=1.28 sec
therefore final speed of P=
v=0+(1.28*0.98)
v=1.24 m/s
0=1.24-5t
t=0.248 sec
this is the time P takes to come to rest therefore the time for it to become taut again will be double that=0.248*2=0.496 sec, By the way there might be some inaccuracies in the final answer as i did not use exact values

take t as 4root5/7 sec and ull get the exact answer

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Post by: Fenomenoe9 on May 16, 2010, 07:43:56 pm
ok but why does the time taken for P to rest double?
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 16, 2010, 07:48:33 pm
cos it has to travel the same distance with the same acceleration - motion in reverse
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Post by: cooldude on May 16, 2010, 07:49:22 pm
ok but why does the time taken for P to rest double?

cuz c wen P reaches rest, Q is still incapable of movement as the string is still slack, but then when P goes back down the plane and when it reaches the point where it initially was i.e. 0.51 sec previously, the string becomes taut again and Q rises again, we double the time because we consider both the period when P travels up the plane and back down. P moves down the plane because of its weight, there is no other force acting on P as the tension in the string is non-existent for the duration of the time the string is slack, i.e. the interval of 0.51 sec, hope u get it.
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Post by: cooldude on May 16, 2010, 07:50:55 pm
cos it has to travel the same distance with the same acceleration - motion in reverse

sorry sir, didnt notice you'd already answered   :-[
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Post by: Fenomenoe9 on May 16, 2010, 07:54:26 pm
haha i love u man thanks alot for helping and yeah i get it man, thanks again! bye
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Post by: hesho21 on May 17, 2010, 02:20:08 pm
Guys plz question no.3 in the attached paper here . It made me madd!! Thanx in advance
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Post by: nid404 on May 17, 2010, 02:46:08 pm
Here you go....

Since the system is in equilibrium, the sum of horizontal components should be equal to zero.
That is

W2sin60o- W1sin40= 0   Call this eq 1

The sum of vertical components should also be zero         
W1cos40+ W2cos60 - 5N= 0                            Call this eq 2

Now you rearrange eqn 1 to get either W1 in terms of W2 or the other way round. I'll go with the first

Eq 1 W2sin60o= W1sin40
W1=W2sin60o/ sin40

Substitute W1 in eqn 2

W2sin60o/ sin40 (cos 40)  + W2cos60= 5
 1.53 W2= 5
  W2=3.26N

Now substitute the value of W2 in eq 1

W1sin40= 3.26 sin 60
W1=4.4N



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Post by: immortal on May 17, 2010, 06:23:09 pm
Ur method is confusing,what happens if dey r not in equilibrium ???
By the way is it ok 2 solve this using da data 2 form a triangle.
V wud get   5/sin80=W1 /sin60=W2/sin40.
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Post by: nid404 on May 17, 2010, 06:25:47 pm
You can use the triangle method too...
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Post by: hesho21 on May 17, 2010, 07:56:27 pm
Thanks sooo much that really helped  :D and ure explanation was great, good luck :D
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Post by: solo_G on May 17, 2010, 11:20:31 pm
okay guys i have a doubt but its for cambridge M1..its from nov 09 varient one.....Qs 6 part (iii)........i cant get why was U substituted as -2 in the equation s=Ut+1/2 at*2?! can someone explain the entire question cuz i keep getting the required time in negative....i would appreciate any help.thanx in advance
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 17, 2010, 11:24:38 pm
Something wrong with that entire paper. My copy too. Just picures with no questions
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Post by: solo_G on May 17, 2010, 11:33:15 pm
Something wrong with that entire paper. My copy too. Just picures with no questions
sorry about that.....imma upload another copy
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Post by: solo_G on May 17, 2010, 11:43:12 pm
sorry people but i have another doubt...its from CIE nov 08...the first question part (i) and part (ii).....i know its just a two marks question but its driving me crazy.....thanks in advance.
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 17, 2010, 11:59:39 pm
Will try to answer it 1st thing in morning. To bed now
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Post by: hesho21 on May 18, 2010, 12:06:38 am
So for the 8N force
parallel to the 10 N force u have 8cos(theta)
perpendicular to the 10N force u have 8sin(theta)

Now u want to find the resultant
(a) parallel to the 10 N force ==> 10-8cos(theta)
(b)perpendicular is just 8sin(theta)

Hope it helped
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Post by: solo_G on May 18, 2010, 12:34:43 am
So for the 8N force
parallel to the 10 N force u have 8cos(theta)
perpendicular to the 10N force u have 8sin(theta)

Now u want to find the resultant
(a) parallel to the 10 N force ==> 10-8cos(theta)
(b)perpendicular is just 8sin(theta)

Hope it helped
aha .....that was helpful hesho21.....i got it now....makes sense ;D thanks man!
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Post by: falafail on May 18, 2010, 12:42:34 am
sorry people but i have another doubt...its from CIE nov 08...the first question part (i) and part (ii).....i know its just a two marks question but its driving me crazy.....thanks in advance.

(i)(a) you have to resolve the forces horizontally, so its 10 - 8cos?
(i)(b) you have to resolve the forces vertically, so it's 8sin?

(ii) the x-component squared + the y-component squared will = the resultant squared.
(10 - 8cos?)2  +  (8sin?)2  =  82
then just simplify and you'll get cos? = 5/8
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Post by: solo_G on May 18, 2010, 12:57:21 am
(i)(a) you have to resolve the forces horizontally, so its 10 - 8cos?
(i)(b) you have to resolve the forces vertically, so it's 8sin?

(ii) the x-component squared + the y-component squared will = the resultant squared.
(10 - 8cos?)2  +  (8sin?)2  =  82
then just simplify and you'll get cos? = 5/8
yeah falafail.....i got it and i did the last question just like you said....thanks for replying ...ehm ehm i wana ask smthn else....in nov09 varient 1 question 6 part(iii).......can u explain?!
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Post by: falafail on May 18, 2010, 01:28:00 am
yeah falafail.....i got it and i did the last question just like you said....thanks for replying ...ehm ehm i wana ask smthn else....in nov09 varient 1 question 6 part(iii).......can u explain?!
right okay,
so in part (ii) you found the height above the ground of P and Q, and their speed, when the string breaks.
that's sP= 3 m, sQ= 7 m, and their speed is 2 ms-1.
you use the equation s = ut + 1/2 at2, except here they're accelerating due to gravity only so a=10
so for P:
3 = 2t + 1/2 (10)t2
solving for t you get t = 0.6 or t = -1 (obviously the second is invalid)
for Q:
7 = -2t + 1/2 (10)t2
here it's -2 because it's in the opposite direction to P. remember this is velocity, you have to take into consideration the speed AND the direction.
so yeah, solve for this one you get t=1.4 or t=-1

1.4 - 0.6 = 0.8
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Post by: hesho21 on May 18, 2010, 02:01:07 am
yeh sorry missed out the (ii) part, but anyways u got it :D Good luck
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Post by: solo_G on May 18, 2010, 02:14:47 am
right okay,
so in part (ii) you found the height above the ground of P and Q, and their speed, when the string breaks.
that's sP= 3 m, sQ= 7 m, and their speed is 2 ms-1.
you use the equation s = ut + 1/2 at2, except here they're accelerating due to gravity only so a=10
so for P:
3 = 2t + 1/2 (10)t2
solving for t you get t = 0.6 or t = -1 (obviously the second is invalid)
for Q:
7 = -2t + 1/2 (10)t2
here it's -2 because it's in the opposite direction to P. remember this is velocity, you have to take into consideration the speed AND the direction.
so yeah, solve for this one you get t=1.4 or t=-1

1.4 - 0.6 = 0.8
yeah i know about the solving but the thing that i dont get is that when the string breaks both particles will move downwards and so whats the point of using u=-2.....soory dude bt am lil bit bad at mechanics :-\
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Post by: falafail on May 18, 2010, 11:12:18 am
yeah i know about the solving but the thing that i dont get is that when the string breaks both particles will move downwards and so whats the point of using u=-2.....soory dude bt am lil bit bad at mechanics :-\
oh right sh*t my bad. it's not negative because they're in opposite directions, they're in the same direction -_- sorry.
okay so you know that velocity is a vector quantity; you take into consideration the speed AND the direction.
here the direction matters especially because, in the first parts of the question, we took the downwards velocity of P as positive and UPWARDS of Q as positive.
so in this part, since P is going down and so is Q, the velocity of P remains positive as it's still int he downwards direction, but the velocity of Q becomes negative, since it is now going downwards (opposite to what we took as positive)
geddit?
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Post by: Saladin on May 18, 2010, 02:15:11 pm
oh right sh*t my bad. it's not negative because they're in opposite directions, they're in the same direction -_- sorry.
okay so you know that velocity is a vector quantity; you take into consideration the speed AND the direction.
here the direction matters especially because, in the first parts of the question, we took the downwards velocity of P as positive and UPWARDS of Q as positive.
so in this part, since P is going down and so is Q, the velocity of P remains positive as it's still int he downwards direction, but the velocity of Q becomes negative, since it is now going downwards (opposite to what we took as positive)
geddit?

You did not have to use that word did you?
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Post by: falafail on May 18, 2010, 05:15:39 pm
You did not have to use that word did you?
what word? >__>
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Post by: solo_G on May 18, 2010, 08:11:57 pm
oh right sh*t my bad. it's not negative because they're in opposite directions, they're in the same direction -_- sorry.
okay so you know that velocity is a vector quantity; you take into consideration the speed AND the direction.
here the direction matters especially because, in the first parts of the question, we took the downwards velocity of P as positive and UPWARDS of Q as positive.
so in this part, since P is going down and so is Q, the velocity of P remains positive as it's still int he downwards direction, but the velocity of Q becomes negative, since it is now going downwards (opposite to what we took as positive)
geddit?
Aye aye i got that!!! now it makes sense....thanks alot falafail  for ur help! ;D
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Post by: falafail on May 18, 2010, 08:37:48 pm
Aye aye i got that!!! now it makes sense....thanks alot falafail  for ur help! ;D
no problem :)
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Post by: AL*Eagle on May 18, 2010, 08:49:53 pm
I have the answer of this question.. but i dont get it..
would someone care to explain?

A 5Kg box lies on a rough horizontal floor. The coefficient of friction between the box and the floor is 0.5 .
A force P is applied to to the box to pull or push it horizontally along the floor.
Find the Magnitude of P which is necessary to achieve this if:
a P is applied at an angle x above the horizontal, where tan x = 3/4
b P is applied at an angle x below the horizontal, where tan x = 3/4

Id really appreciate anyone explainin this??
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Post by: falafail on May 18, 2010, 09:06:10 pm
I have the answer of this question.. but i dont get it..
would someone care to explain?

A 5Kg box lies on a rough horizontal floor. The coefficient of friction between the box and the floor is 0.5 .
A force P is applied to to the box to pull or push it horizontally along the floor.
Find the Magnitude of P which is necessary to achieve this if:
a P is applied at an angle x above the horizontal, where tan x = 3/4
b P is applied at an angle x below the horizontal, where tan x = 3/4

Id really appreciate anyone explainin this??

is it P > 19.2 N for part a and P > 35.7 N for part b? i'll explain how i got those if i'm right :P
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 18, 2010, 09:12:49 pm
try this
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Post by: immortal on May 18, 2010, 09:21:49 pm
Wts da ans, because i get P>22.7 for a   &   P>125  for b
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Post by: AL*Eagle on May 18, 2010, 09:24:58 pm
is it P > 19.2 N for part a and P > 35.7 N for part b? i'll explain how i got those if i'm right :P

Answers are
a 22N
b 49
(2s.f.)
close to yours
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Post by: AL*Eagle on May 18, 2010, 09:25:58 pm
try this

thanks for your effort man
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Post by: falafail on May 18, 2010, 09:30:05 pm
Answers are
a 22N
b 49
(2s.f.)
close to yours

right well i found out what i did wrong, but it's still not what you have. maybe you rounded wrong? 'cause i get 22.7 N and 50 N (exact answers are somewhere around 22.727.... and 50.000... so i'm pretty sure i'm right :P)
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Post by: immortal on May 18, 2010, 09:33:00 pm
right well i found out what i did wrong, but it's still not what you have. maybe you rounded wrong? 'cause i get 22.7 N and 50 N (exact answers are somewhere around 22.727.... and 50.000... so i'm pretty sure i'm right :P)
I did da same, wat u did wrong waz 2 tke g as 10 & not 9.8
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Post by: falafail on May 18, 2010, 09:37:46 pm
I did da same, wat u did wrong waz 2 tke g as 10 & not 9.8
erm no actually, i did P > F instead of Pcosx > F  :-[

anyway, here's the solving.
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Post by: AL*Eagle on May 18, 2010, 10:06:09 pm
erm no actually, i did P > F instead of Pcosx > F  :-[

anyway, here's the solving.


Thank you very much.. appreciated
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Post by: falafail on May 18, 2010, 10:08:08 pm
Thank you very much.. appreciated

you're welcome ;D
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Post by: hesho21 on May 18, 2010, 11:08:03 pm
guys 6(iv) in June 09 on the paper attached here , shouldnt it be 0.72m? cuz in the mark scheme its slightly larger than that ? Plz explain , thank u
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 18, 2010, 11:20:40 pm
I took g as 9.8
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Post by: hesho21 on May 18, 2010, 11:27:50 pm
ohhh thanx man , ure great  ;D
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Post by: solo_G on May 19, 2010, 02:08:41 am
can someone explain Q 7 cz  i have trbles wed vector quantities....i mean in this question what shud we take as negative the U or da acceleration? please answer ASAP
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Post by: falafail on May 19, 2010, 06:37:44 am
can someone explain Q 7 cz  i have trbles wed vector quantities....i mean in this question what shud we take as negative the U or da acceleration? please answer ASAP
i used u as negative for Q... my friend said you could use the acceleration as negative too but idk. does it matter? supposedly you get the answer either way  :-\

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Post by: falafail on May 19, 2010, 06:45:28 am
guys 6(iv) in June 09 on the paper attached here , shouldnt it be 0.72m? cuz in the mark scheme its slightly larger than that ? Plz explain , thank u

no, the markscheme's right  ::)
after A hits the floor, B keeps moving upwards with a= -10 and u=1.2
to calculate the maximum height reached, you use v=0
so you get s=0.072 AFTER A HITS THE FLOOR
that means that B is already 0.36 + 0.36 m above the ground.
so 0.36 + 0.36 + 0.072 = 0.792 m.


woops, i didn't notice astar's post. oh well, at least i got practice i guess :P
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Post by: Fenomenoe9 on May 19, 2010, 04:47:30 pm
Guys i realllyyyy suck at vectors i just dong get them i tried everything .. i dont understand most of the questions in the pastpapers like what they are asking for. WHAT SHOULD I DO?? anyone know a way for like how to draw them or something so that i can atleast get what is happening or what they are asking in the question.??

Thanks
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Post by: wakemeup on May 20, 2010, 03:42:58 am
Post a specific question you have difficulty in.

Here is a video on the very basics of vectors:
[yt=425,350]pimr9I92GZY[/yt]
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Post by: Sweet_03 on May 20, 2010, 01:22:16 pm
hello

M1 , jan2006
can someone please explain how to do :
all of Question 4
and Question 6 part (d) only
 :-[
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Post by: halosh92 on May 20, 2010, 01:41:50 pm
jan 2006 -edexcel
Q7c- SMALL DOUBT
could someone just explain why is the direction reversed??
THX ;D
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Post by: halosh92 on May 20, 2010, 07:21:10 pm
guys plzz urgent
! anyone has the ms for jan 2010 m1 edexcel
VERY URGENT THXXXX
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Post by: vanibharutham on May 20, 2010, 07:51:57 pm
http://www.scribd.com/doc/29694750/Edexcel-GCE-January-2010-Mechanics-M1-Marking-Scheme (http://www.scribd.com/doc/29694750/Edexcel-GCE-January-2010-Mechanics-M1-Marking-Scheme)
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Post by: halosh92 on May 20, 2010, 08:21:14 pm
http://www.scribd.com/doc/29694750/Edexcel-GCE-January-2010-Mechanics-M1-Marking-Scheme (http://www.scribd.com/doc/29694750/Edexcel-GCE-January-2010-Mechanics-M1-Marking-Scheme)

thankyouuuuuuuuu
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Post by: Phosu on May 21, 2010, 10:53:26 am
jan 1010
7) d)
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Post by: vanibharutham on May 21, 2010, 11:18:36 am
the displacement vector from L to S is given by:

Position of S - Position of L

=> [(3t+9)i + (4t-6)j] - [ 18i + 6j ]

LS = (3t-9)i + (4t-12)j

therefore, the time from when DISTANCE, (not displacement), between L and S is 10 km is given by:

LS² = (3t - 9)² + (4t - 12)²
(10)² = 25t² - 150t + 225
0 = 25t² - 150t + 125
t² - 6t + 5 = 0

t = 5 and t = 1

Therefore,

T = 5 or T = 1
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Post by: halosh92 on May 21, 2010, 12:45:26 pm
jan 2006 -edexcel
Q7c- SMALL DOUBT
could someone just explain why is the direction reversed??
THX ;D

coudl someone solve this plz!
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Post by: halosh92 on May 21, 2010, 12:55:19 pm
A particle A of mass 2 kg is moving along a straight horizontal line with speed 12 m s–1.
Another particle B of mass m kg is moving along the same straight line, in the opposite
direction to A, with speed 8 m s–1. The particles collide. The direction of motion of A
is unchanged by the collision. Immediately after the collision, A is moving with speed
3 m s–1 and B is moving with speed 4 m s–1. Find
(a) the magnitude of the impulse exerted by B on A in the collision
(b) the value of m.

i keep getting the impluse as negative
i took this -------------> as (+)  and this <---------- as (-)
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Post by: halosh92 on May 21, 2010, 02:22:46 pm
does anyone have june 2009 edexcel M1 ms ?
thx
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 21, 2010, 02:44:16 pm
A particle A of mass 2 kg is moving along a straight horizontal line with speed 12 m s–1.
Another particle B of mass m kg is moving along the same straight line, in the opposite
direction to A, with speed 8 m s–1. The particles collide. The direction of motion of A
is unchanged by the collision. Immediately after the collision, A is moving with speed
3 m s–1 and B is moving with speed 4 m s–1. Find
(a) the magnitude of the impulse exerted by B on A in the collision
(b) the value of m.

i keep getting the impluse as negative
i took this -------------> as (+)  and this <---------- as (-)
conservation of momentum
12*2-8m=3*2+4m
24-8m=6+4m
24-6=8m+4m
18=12m so m=1.5
impulse=mv-mu for A
2*3-2*12=-18
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 21, 2010, 02:48:21 pm
june 2006 7c
r(t)=start point +t*velocity
=16i+5j+3*(-2.5i+6j)=8.5i+23j
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Post by: halosh92 on May 21, 2010, 03:09:53 pm
A particle A of mass 2 kg is moving along a straight horizontal line with speed 12 m s–1.
Another particle B of mass m kg is moving along the same straight line, in the opposite
direction to A, with speed 8 m s–1. The particles collide. The direction of motion of A
is unchanged by the collision. Immediately after the collision, A is moving with speed
3 m s–1 and B is moving with speed 4 m s–1. Find
(a) the magnitude of the impulse exerted by B on A in the collision
(b) the value of m.

i keep getting the impluse as negative
i took this -------------> as (+)  and this <---------- as (-)
conservation of momentum
12*2-8m=3*2+4m
24-8m=6+4m
24-6=8m+4m
18=12m so m=1.5
impulse=mv-mu for A
2*3-2*12=-18

sir this is my problem...the impulse is 18 not -18 :SS am always getting it negative in all papers. :s
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Post by: nid404 on May 21, 2010, 03:22:19 pm
Impulse is a scalar quantity...i think  :-\
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Post by: halosh92 on May 21, 2010, 03:24:27 pm
Two particles A and B are moving on a smooth horizontal plane. The mass of A is 2m and
the mass of B is m. The particles are moving along the same straight line but in opposite
directions and they collide directly. Immediately before they collide the speed of A is 2u
and the speed of B is 3u. The magnitude of the impulse received by each particle in the
collision is 7mu/2

Find
(a) the speed of A immediately after the collision,

(b) the speed of B immediately after the collision
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 21, 2010, 03:28:53 pm
By B on A - I read it the other way round
mV-mu for B
1.5*4--1.5*8=18
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Post by: 7ooD on May 21, 2010, 05:36:33 pm
can someone plz explain question 5 part c and d in 2001 june i dnt get wat the markscheme says qp and markschemes are attached
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 21, 2010, 10:23:06 pm
here
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Post by: Muho on May 21, 2010, 11:30:48 pm
Someone help me with january 2009 Q7 (b)..

I have the mark scheme i just don't understand how they freakn get there =/
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 22, 2010, 12:02:13 am
1st thing in morning
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Post by: falafail on May 22, 2010, 12:03:41 am
Someone help me with january 2009 Q7 (b)..

I have the mark scheme i just don't understand how they freakn get there =/

CIE or edexcel?
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Post by: Saladin on May 22, 2010, 07:28:59 am
Answering it soon.
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Post by: Sweet_03 on May 22, 2010, 07:41:51 am
hello

M1 , jan2006
can someone please explain how to do :
all of Question 4
and Question 6 part (d) only
 :-[

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Post by: Saladin on May 22, 2010, 08:19:59 am
Answering it soon.

Jan 2009 m1

7(b)

This is basically asking you to find the resistance force that R give Q. The thing thatprevents it from having an acceleration of 9.8 ms-2

So

5g-N=5a

5*9.8-5*5.88=N

N=19.6
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Post by: halosh92 on May 22, 2010, 09:15:28 am
M1 edexcel
jan 2001
Q6d
URGENT! thx
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Post by: Saladin on May 22, 2010, 09:24:28 am
M1 edexcel
jan 2001
Q6d
URGENT! thx

Post all your working upto 6 (c)

or else i will have to do the whole thing
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Post by: halosh92 on May 22, 2010, 09:54:50 am
Post all your working upto 6 (c)

or else i will have to do the whole thing

sure

b) v=u +at
v=at
v = 9.8 *2 = 19.6 m/s

c) 1/2 * 2 *19.6 = 19.6m
1/2 * (19.6 + 4) *5 = 59
59 + 19.6= 78.6m

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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 22, 2010, 11:31:46 am
here
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Post by: halosh92 on May 22, 2010, 12:01:02 pm
sure

b) v=u +at
v=at
v = 9.8 *2 = 19.6 m/s

c) 1/2 * 2 *19.6 = 19.6m
1/2 * (19.6 + 4) *5 = 59
59 + 19.6= 78.6m



could someone solve this plz :(
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Post by: Phosu on May 22, 2010, 12:31:53 pm
the distance that the helicopter is above the ground is 125m
this is the total distance under the graph, since its the total distance that the woman covers before reaching the ground
out of which 78.6m is the distance between the woman in air, and the helicopter

125=78.6+4T
4T=46.4
T=11.6

total time taken = 2+5+11.6=18.6s
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on May 22, 2010, 12:38:31 pm
A load of weight 7kN is being raised from the rest with constant acceleration by a cable. After the load has been raised 20 metres, the cable suddenly becomes slack. The load continues to move upwards for a distance of 4 metres before coming to an instantaneous rest. Assume no air resistance, find the tension in the cable before it became slack.
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Post by: halosh92 on May 22, 2010, 12:47:09 pm
the distance that the helicopter is above the ground is 125m
this is the total distance under the graph, since its the total distance that the woman covers before reaching the ground
out of which 78.6m is the distance between the woman in air, and the helicopter

125=78.6+4T
4T=46.4
T=11.6

total time taken = 2+5+11.6=18.6s


how did u get this equation exactly??
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Post by: Phosu on May 22, 2010, 12:57:41 pm
how did u get this equation exactly??

which one?
the calculation of T or the total time taken?
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Post by: halosh92 on May 22, 2010, 01:07:52 pm
which one?
the calculation of T or the total time taken?

no calculation for T
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Post by: Phosu on May 22, 2010, 01:36:45 pm
see we kno total distance is 125m
125= 78.6+x
find x
which is 48.6m

so she travels 48.6m for t seconds

now to find t
48.6 = 4 (t+7)-7
48.6 =4t
t=48.6/4 = 11.6s
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Post by: cooldude on May 22, 2010, 01:48:53 pm
A load of weight 7kN is being raised from the rest with constant acceleration by a cable. After the load has been raised 20 metres, the cable suddenly becomes slack. The load continues to move upwards for a distance of 4 metres before coming to an instantaneous rest. Assume no air resistance, find the tension in the cable before it became slack.

this is for the first part of the journey, let the tension in the string be T and the velocity of the load after it has travelled 20m--->

T-7000=700a
v^2=u^2+2as
v^2=2*20*((T-7000)/700)

for the second part of the journey (when the string is slack), note in the second line, v^2 is referred to as the velocity found above-->
v^2=u^2+2as
0=v^2+2*-10*4
v^2=80
now substitute the value of v^2 in the above equation-->
80=40((T-7000)/700)
T=1400+7000=8400 N

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Post by: halosh92 on May 22, 2010, 01:57:48 pm
see we kno total distance is 125m
125= 78.6+x
find x
which is 48.6m

so she travels 48.6m for t seconds

now to find t
48.6 = 4 (t+7)-7
48.6 =4t
t=48.6/4 = 11.6s


thxxx aloooottt
all clear  :D
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on May 22, 2010, 03:20:06 pm
this is for the first part of the journey, let the tension in the string be T and the velocity of the load after it has travelled 20m--->

T-7000=700a
v^2=u^2+2as
v^2=2*20*((T-7000)/700)

for the second part of the journey (when the string is slack), note in the second line, v^2 is referred to as the velocity found above-->
v^2=u^2+2as
0=v^2+2*-10*4
v^2=80
now substitute the value of v^2 in the above equation-->
80=40((T-7000)/700)
T=1400+7000=8400 N



ok got it , thanks a lot
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Post by: wakemeup on May 22, 2010, 03:31:04 pm
Man, edexcel jan 2009 is insane. Q5a. Why is the friction in the upward direction? Q5b. I have no idea what's going on here. Q7b and c. Again, no idea at all. Please help...

http://www.xtremepapers.net/Edexcel/Mathematics/2009%20Jan/2009%20Jan%20QPM1.pdf
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Post by: Darkstar3000 on May 22, 2010, 03:51:29 pm
At time t=0 at particle is projected vertically upwards with speed u m/s from a point 10m above the ground. At time T seconds, the particle hits the ground with speed 17.5 m/s . Find

a) The value of u (i can find this)

b) The value of T

part b is my problem because in the marking scheme they used V=u + at and took the initial speed (u)  as negative, why do we take it as a negative because in my calculation i wrote it like this: 17.5=10.5 - 9.8t

this is from May 2008 Q2



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Post by: cooldude on May 22, 2010, 04:06:44 pm
darkstar3000--->

(m doin the a part as i need the value of u)

a) highest point reached by the object-->
v^2=u^2+2as
0=u^2+(2*-10s)
u^2=20s
b) v^2=u^2+2as
17.5^2=0+(2*10*(10+s)
s=5.3125
u=10.31 m/s

b) for the upward journey time--->
v=u+at
0=10.31-10t
t=1.031 sec
for the downward journey time-->
v=u+at
17.5=0+10t
t=1.75 sec
therefore T=1.75+1.031=2.78 sec

and now ur qs, in these type of qs its best to divide ur answer into two parts (the upward part and the downward part), uve assumed that g is negative for the whole journey but that is only true for the upward journey, thus u will not get the correct answer

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Post by: Darkstar3000 on May 22, 2010, 05:21:01 pm
darkstar3000--->

(m doin the a part as i need the value of u)

a) highest point reached by the object-->
v^2=u^2+2as
0=u^2+(2*-10s)
u^2=20s
b) v^2=u^2+2as
17.5^2=0+(2*10*(10+s)
s=5.3125
u=10.31 m/s

b) for the upward journey time--->
v=u+at
0=10.31-10t
t=1.031 sec
for the downward journey time-->
v=u+at
17.5=0+10t
t=1.75 sec
therefore T=1.75+1.031=2.78 sec

and now ur qs, in these type of qs its best to divide ur answer into two parts (the upward part and the downward part), uve assumed that g is negative for the whole journey but that is only true for the upward journey, thus u will not get the correct answer



thank you very much
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Post by: wakemeup on May 22, 2010, 08:29:08 pm
Man, edexcel jan 2009 is insane. Q5a. Why is the friction in the upward direction? Q5b. I have no idea what's going on here. Q7b and c. Again, no idea at all. Please help...

http://www.xtremepapers.net/Edexcel/Mathematics/2009%20Jan/2009%20Jan%20QPM1.pdf
                                                                                                                                                                                             Please, people. Need answers urgently.
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Post by: Igcseboy on May 22, 2010, 08:41:42 pm
Hello every1 plzz i need answers to the  following questions

Jan 2009 qustion 5 b i and ii

May 2008 6 b

May 2008 5 a and b

Jan 2008 7 c

Jan 2008 6 d

Any1 able to answer these plzzz do so

May God bless us All

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Post by: Saladin on May 22, 2010, 08:52:03 pm
Hello every1 plzz i need answers to the  following questions

Jan 2009 qustion 5 b i and ii

May 2008 6 b

May 2008 5 a and b

Jan 2008 7 c

Jan 2008 6 d

Any1 able to answer these plzzz do so

May God bless us All



2moro!
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Post by: halosh92 on May 22, 2010, 09:03:07 pm
Q3
plzzz someone explainnn
thx a bunch URGENTTTT
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 22, 2010, 10:33:51 pm
,moments about A -2*2+3*2+4*0+5*0=2Nm anticlockwise
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 23, 2010, 07:23:36 am
This is 7c
Resolving vertically-6.75g-6.75gcos36.87=-12.15g
resolving horizontally -6.75gsinn36.87=-4.5g
R=sqrt((-12.15g)^2+(-4.5g)^2)=12.96g
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Post by: Saladin on May 23, 2010, 09:14:58 am
This is 7c
Resolving vertically-6.75g-6.75gcos36.87=-12.15g
resolving horizontally -6.75gsinn36.87=-4.5g
R=sqrt((-12.15g)^2+(-4.5g)^2)=12.96g

I owe you one.
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Post by: Uchia on May 23, 2010, 09:58:24 am
this one plz its urgent question 7
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Post by: Igcseboy on May 23, 2010, 09:59:23 am
jan 2010 question 6 d.... plzzz
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 23, 2010, 10:47:38 am
q7
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 23, 2010, 10:54:25 am
jan 2010 question 6 d.... plzzz
before A hits It accelerates at g/4 for 1.2s
s=1/2at^2=1/2*g/4*1.2^2=0.18g
When A hits floor, it and B are travelling with speedv=at=g/4*1.2=0.3g
Now B moves freely under gravity
v^2=u^2+2as
0=(0.3g)^2+2*-g*s
s=0.045g
height reached=0.18g+0.045g=0.225g
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Post by: georgianna on May 23, 2010, 11:09:58 am
has anyone done the M1 mock paper
http://www.srepapmaxeeeerf.org/A%20Level/Maths/Edexcel/M1/M1%20Mock.pdf (http://www.srepapmaxeeeerf.org/A%20Level/Maths/Edexcel/M1/M1%20Mock.pdf)
how do you get 8103.2 for 5c??
I only got 7280
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Post by: Uchia on May 23, 2010, 11:17:58 am
yeah i solved that question many times and i went to conclusion that they made a mistake in there calculations even my teacher said the same thing. There answer seem very weird
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Post by: Uchia on May 23, 2010, 11:19:03 am
hey guys plz help me in my doubt june 01 question 7
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 23, 2010, 11:22:15 am
For the M1 mock paper

speed of both togeter is 5.6*78/84=5.2
deceleration=5.2/0.06=87


use F=ma to get R-84g=84*87 so R=84g+86*87
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 23, 2010, 11:25:23 am
hey guys plz help me in my doubt june 01 question 7
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Post by: Uchia on May 23, 2010, 11:28:45 am
thanks sir
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Post by: Uchia on May 23, 2010, 11:36:01 am
how did you know that you need to add 6j in part a
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Post by: Igcseboy on May 23, 2010, 12:12:48 pm
jan 2010 question 6 d.... plzzz
before A hits It accelerates at g/4 for 1.2s
s=1/2at^2=1/2*g/4*1.2^2=0.18g
When A hits floor, it and B are travelling with speedv=at=g/4*1.2=0.3g
Now B moves freely under gravity
v^2=u^2+2as
0=(0.3g)^2+2*-g*s
s=0.045g
height reached=0.18g+0.045g=0.225g

but its different in the markscheme :S:S:S
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Post by: perrychan527 on May 23, 2010, 02:36:28 pm
M1 Jan 08 6d plzz
dont understd the question and marking. thx..
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Post by: Saladin on May 23, 2010, 02:50:11 pm
M1 Jan 08 6d plzz
dont understd the question and marking. thx..

answering now.
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Post by: Saladin on May 23, 2010, 02:53:28 pm
I am going to have to answer the whole question, so please, it may take a while.
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Post by: Saladin on May 23, 2010, 03:16:06 pm
The i co-ordinates have to be the same in order for something to be due south of something.

Thus, we have to see, how long it takes for the i co-ordinates to become equal.

Thus, we got that the speed is 2i-3.5j

So, the i co-ordinate of A is 7.

Thus,

\frac{7}{2}=3.5

The total time to get to the point (0,0) is 7 seconds, 4+3.

Thus you simply add the new value to 7. And you get the answer: 10.5
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Post by: perrychan527 on May 23, 2010, 05:11:52 pm
The i co-ordinates have to be the same in order for something to be due south of something.

Thus, we have to see, how long it takes for the i co-ordinates to become equal.

Thus, we got that the speed is 2i-3.5j

So, the i co-ordinate of A is 7.

Thus,

\frac{7}{2}=3.5

The total time to get to the point (0,0) is 7 seconds, 4+3.

Thus you simply add the new value to 7. And you get the answer: 10.5
Thx, i got it. ;) ;) ;)
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Post by: raimunts on May 23, 2010, 05:35:17 pm
What is the value of acceleration due to gravity, g in m1?
And do we have to write answeres which involve g in terms of g, or in decimals? please help
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 23, 2010, 06:01:43 pm
9.81 or 9.8 or 10 if I am asked to find a numerrical value
I always use 9.8 but you may be told to use a value in the question
In terms of g is always best
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Post by: 7ooD on May 23, 2010, 06:12:51 pm
in m1 it is always 9.8
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Post by: zabady on May 23, 2010, 08:55:04 pm
plzzz someone question 6 a b c for they said R is parallel to vector (i-2j) i understand by parallel that it means R=K * (i-2j).....,and for b and c i cant get them
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 23, 2010, 08:57:33 pm
6abc what year and board
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Post by: Saladin on May 23, 2010, 09:00:07 pm
plzzz someone question 6 a b c for they said R is parallel to vector (i-2j) i understand by parallel that it means R=K * (i-2j).....,and for b and c i cant get them

which year?
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Post by: zabady on May 23, 2010, 09:01:23 pm
looool sry 2009 january....m1 edexcel the linkk for paper http://freeexampapers.com/FreeExamPapers.com_.php?__lo=QSBMZXZlbC9NYXRocy9FZGV4Y2VsL00xL00xIDIwMDktMDEucGRm and the ms http://freeexampapers.com/FreeExamPapers.com_.php?__lo=QSBMZXZlbC9NYXRocy9FZGV4Y2VsL00xL00xIDIwMDktMDEgTVMucGRm

question says

6. Two forces, (4i – 5j) N and (pi + qj) N, act on a particle P of mass m kg. The resultant
of the two forces is R. Given that R acts in a direction which is parallel to the
vector (i – 2j),
(a) find the angle between R and the vector j,
(3)
(b) show that 2p + q + 3 = 0.

ms says

tan? = 2
1
?? = 63.4
angle is 153.4


(4 + p)i + (q ? 5)j
(q ? 5) = ?2(4 + p)
2 p + q + 3 = 0 *
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Post by: Saladin on May 23, 2010, 09:02:40 pm
looool sry 2009 january....m1 edexcel

sir, i need to go to sleep. I have been helping all day.....

Pls take this one.
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 23, 2010, 09:07:28 pm
will do
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Post by: zabady on May 23, 2010, 09:10:35 pm
thanks and please explain how you did part a i don't understand why they took i-2j when it is supposed to be parallel not equal
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 23, 2010, 09:16:32 pm
Two forces, (4i – 5j) N and (pi + qj) N, act on a particle P of mass m kg. The resultant
of the two forces is R. Given that R acts in a direction which is parallel to the
vector (i – 2j),
(a) find the angle between R and the vector j,
(3)
(b) show that 2p + q + 3 = 0.
a)cos x=j.(i-2j)/|i||i-2j|=1aqrt(5) so x=cos^-1 1/sqrt5

4i-5j+pi+qj=k(i-2j)
4+p=k   (3)
-5+q=-2k (4)
(3)*2+(4) gives2p + q + 3 = 0
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Post by: raimunts on May 23, 2010, 09:20:35 pm
Hey, can someone please suggest 2 or 3 of the MOST DIFFICULT solomon paper questions of each chapter of M1? Please help!
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Post by: zabady on May 23, 2010, 09:22:54 pm
i dnt get part a at all
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Post by: 7ooD on May 23, 2010, 09:35:44 pm
dude ur prob iz wiz k rite when u put tan theta = k2j/ki k will cancel so u get it as 2j/i see :D
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 23, 2010, 10:34:55 pm
You dont divide j by i etc you divide 2 by 1
solve tan x=2
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Post by: raimunts on May 23, 2010, 10:42:34 pm
HEY. Urgent. Can you help me please?! Are we supposed to write units in every step of working in M1? If not, when do we have to write the units? And Impulse = Final - Initial Momentum, ryt? But check the Jan 2010 M1 markscheme no.1, they show Initial - Final Momentum.
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Post by: 7ooD on May 23, 2010, 11:14:37 pm
look in 2010 markscheme r stupids or i dnt kno wat way of solving in the earth is this but i=mv-mu u get it minus cuz it is opposite direction but when u give final answer give it as 18 not -18 and when you are showing your working show it wiz units and very accurately
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 24, 2010, 07:39:46 am
Dont bother with units at every stpe
only at the start and most important at the end
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Post by: Sweet_03 on May 24, 2010, 08:40:44 am
can someone please help
M1 june 2009 - edexcel
Q6 (c)
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Post by: Saladin on May 24, 2010, 09:21:09 am
can someone please help
M1 june 2009 - edexcel
Q6 (c)

https://studentforums.biz/index.php/topic,5617.0.html
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 24, 2010, 09:29:46 am
use f=ma for trailer
-200-T=200a
-100-200=200a so a=-1.5
for car -F-400+100=800a
F=-400+100-800*-1.5=-1500N
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Post by: Igcseboy on May 24, 2010, 09:31:09 am
hey in vectors question when we have to find bearing or the angle in which an object is travelling... so we always find using velocity ????:S:S:S
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Post by: Sweet_03 on May 24, 2010, 09:43:13 am
oh Thanks .. but does thrust act in the opposite direction of tension ?  :-\

i hav another Q :(
june2007 ..
Q6 (d)

so v for p was 4.2
therefore u for Q will be 4.2
a= 9.8
and isnt v=0
?
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 24, 2010, 09:51:04 am
if they ask for velocity, find the direction too.
yes the thrust is in the opposite direction to tension - not always. It depends on the question
One mo
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 24, 2010, 09:53:29 am
accelaeration is same for both particles
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Post by: Sweet_03 on May 24, 2010, 09:59:15 am
sorry i mean part (e) not (d) :"$
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Post by: Igcseboy on May 24, 2010, 10:07:42 am
if they ask for velocity, find the direction too.
yes the thrust is in the opposite direction to tension - not always. It depends on the question
One mo


we will find direction using velocity components rite???
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 24, 2010, 10:13:31 am
part e
speed when string goes slack is 4.2
find time to top of fight
v=u+at
0=4.2-9.8t so t=3/7
double this to get the answer
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Post by: abuelzouz on May 24, 2010, 10:15:26 am
MJ 09 q 3

part b i get it right. part a noo.. :S can somebody help ? i dnt get the answer like the ms
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Post by: Sweet_03 on May 24, 2010, 10:17:57 am
ya i got 3/7 as well .. but why do we double it ?
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Post by: Sweet_03 on May 24, 2010, 10:21:59 am
MJ 09 q 3

part b i get it right. part a noo.. :S can somebody help ? i dnt get the answer like the ms

3a)

I = -7mu/2
m= 2m
v= ?
u= 2u

I = m(v-u)
-7mu/2 = 2m ( v-2u)
-7u/4 = v - 2u
v = u/4
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Post by: abuelzouz on May 24, 2010, 10:23:12 am
3a)

I = -7mu/2
m= 2m
v= ?
u= 2u

I = m(v-u)
-7mu/2 = 2m ( v-2u)
-7u/4 = v - 2u
v = u/4


Thanks bt y did u use I in minus?
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Post by: Sweet_03 on May 24, 2010, 10:30:26 am
for A :
I : is in this direction <--
u and v : are in this direction -->
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Post by: AL*Eagle on May 24, 2010, 11:16:32 am
I need help IN vectors..
I dont understand it

If anyone has a useful link for evector explanation please share it..
I dont have  specific question about it.. i want the whole topic explained

THanks
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Post by: Uchia on May 24, 2010, 11:39:44 am
young man call me i might help a little
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Post by: AL*Eagle on May 24, 2010, 11:48:41 am
young man call me i might help a little

imma call u now..
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Post by: abuelzouz on May 24, 2010, 01:26:52 pm
for god's sake.. some1 explain q 6 (d)    jan 2010........................................................!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: abuelzouz on May 24, 2010, 01:39:39 pm
plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz some1 help my exam is within hours!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: abuelzouz on May 24, 2010, 01:50:55 pm
51 Guests, 40 Users (1 Hidden)             and no one can answer me?
well thnk u!!

when i need the forum i cnt find it..
im so leavin it.. as if u care abt some1 who leaves or doesnt..
!!
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 24, 2010, 03:46:23 pm
Sorry I had to go out. Guess you dont need that anymore
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Post by: 7ooD on May 24, 2010, 05:01:16 pm
m1 exam shouldn't be for as math such an eazzzy relly the best exam ever
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Post by: Saladin on May 24, 2010, 05:07:12 pm
m1 exam shouldn't be for as math such an eazzzy relly the best exam ever

That depends on person to person. Please dont discuss any content of the recent exam.
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Post by: abuelzouz on May 24, 2010, 06:10:47 pm
m1 exam shouldn't be for as math such an eazzzy relly the best exam ever

wttttttttttt? it was haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: 7ooD on May 24, 2010, 06:15:51 pm
dude it is hard if u didnt practice on papers like 2004-2010
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Post by: Uchia on May 24, 2010, 06:18:52 pm
man what are you saying i did all the papers and the exam was hard
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Post by: Saladin on May 24, 2010, 06:19:17 pm
dude it is hard if u didnt practice on papers like 2004-2010

Please be respectful to others. Comments such as these may be hurtful to other people's sentiments and efforts.
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Post by: 7ooD on May 24, 2010, 06:24:20 pm
ummm dunno i respect them but if u didnt solve papers then dnt say it was hard but if u solved then found it hard it means u didnt understand them anywayz good luck for alll :D
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Post by: Saladin on May 24, 2010, 06:42:31 pm
ummm dunno i respect them but if u didnt solve papers then dnt say it was hard but if u solved then found it hard it means u didnt understand them anywayz good luck for alll :D

I solved loads. But many did not. Dont make them feel bad please.
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Post by: abuelzouz on May 24, 2010, 06:48:00 pm
i solved all papers man... it was overall hard
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Post by: Igcseboy on May 24, 2010, 07:02:40 pm
it was no easy thts for sure it was tough and seeing tht i had C1 only 30 min. b4 tht so it was very tiring day
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Post by: Saladin on May 24, 2010, 07:07:52 pm
it was no easy thts for sure it was tough and seeing tht i had C1 only 30 min. b4 tht so it was very tiring day

Yes, just say whether it was easy or hard, but nothing more please.
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Post by: Igcseboy on May 24, 2010, 07:12:02 pm
Yes, just say whether it was easy or hard, but nothing more please.


hey edexcel has grade boundaries each year rite??

how r the raw marks converted to uniform marks???
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Post by: Saladin on May 24, 2010, 07:13:09 pm

hey edexcel has grade boundaries each year rite??

how r the raw marks converted to uniform marks???

This will help you.
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Post by: AL*Eagle on May 24, 2010, 07:25:05 pm
Please be respectful to others. Comments such as these may be hurtful to other people's sentiments and efforts.


......BAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! sorry couldnt hold it..
no offense man but... u sounded like a lil emotional girl xP

altho I liked that UMS converter By the way Thanks
+REP
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Post by: Saladin on May 24, 2010, 07:26:16 pm

......BAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! sorry couldnt hold it..
no offense man but... u sounded like a lil emotional girl xP

altho I liked that UMS converter By the way Thanks
+REP

Perhaps giving you wa stern ban will make me seem more masculine.
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Post by: AL*Eagle on May 24, 2010, 07:32:49 pm
Perhaps giving you wa stern ban will make me seem more masculine.

No.. that would make you seem like you were REALLY offended by my comment :)
insted of not givin a shi*t [ which is only if what a said was untrue ;) ]
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Post by: Saladin on May 24, 2010, 07:40:11 pm
No.. that would make you seem like you were REALLY offended by my comment :)
insted of not givin a shi*t [ which is only if what a said was untrue ;) ]

I pick the third. To warn you that, to keep your derisory comments to yourself.

I do not like speaking in this tone to members, but I do my best to be polite.

I have to give a "sh*t" because I care for what people do and say here.

If you cannot keep your comments to yourself. Then I suggest that you go elsewhere.
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Post by: Sweet_03 on May 24, 2010, 10:06:29 pm
when can we discuss the exam ??
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 24, 2010, 10:43:58 pm
Yeah dude
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Post by: 7ooD on May 24, 2010, 11:17:23 pm
now i think
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Post by: 7ooD on May 25, 2010, 01:15:44 am
hey in the last question it looked same as june 2007 question 6 e but for the time they asked find the time which q elapses when the string breaks and p hit the floor but i dnt think it is same way of solving wat i understood is that q moves a distance and takes some time in that distance after the string breaks i remember getting time as 0.42 and one is -.56 which means the old time 0.5 and the new time 0.42 dunno im not sure about this one anyone getting same values?
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Post by: wakemeup on May 25, 2010, 02:39:13 am
^Dude, I got .42 too. Man, the paper was pretty hard. Plus, the timing wasn't really good either. I hope I did ok but I don't know....
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Post by: Sweet_03 on May 25, 2010, 07:52:11 am
omg, ya i got 0.423 too  ;D
i found the paper to be pretty easy :")
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Post by: Saladin on May 25, 2010, 08:56:36 am
The correct answer was 0.56 tbh.

0.423 was gotten by a mistake.
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Post by: T.Q on May 25, 2010, 09:14:20 am
 M1 june 2010 SOLUTIONS!!!!!!
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Post by: Sweet_03 on May 25, 2010, 10:32:26 am
wait ..
for the last Q ..
For B:
u=+0.7 (downwards)
and a=+9.8 (downward)
s= 1.175

right?
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Post by: Sweet_03 on May 25, 2010, 10:36:33 am
i got everything right "i think"
except for Question 3 ..
i forgot about the vertical component [100sin30]  :( :( :( :(
i hope i dont lose all of the 7 marks :(

guys do you have any ideas about the UMS of M1 ?
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Post by: 7ooD on May 25, 2010, 11:13:05 am
dam 9 marks for last question wdf i put everything right i just forgot to add the -9.8
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Post by: AL*Eagle on May 25, 2010, 11:14:56 am
M1 june 2010 SOLUTIONS!!!!!!

yo dude u sure bout the first question?
thanks for the paper tho man appreciate it (Y)
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Post by: T.Q on May 25, 2010, 11:21:37 am
yo dude u sure bout the first question?
thanks for the paper tho man appreciate it (Y)

these answers are made by an M1 teacher
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Post by: 7ooD on May 25, 2010, 11:21:56 am
ye he asked for distance
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Post by: 7ooD on May 25, 2010, 11:22:43 am
but relly they should add parts in jan 2010 their paper got parts a b c and marks where divided but in this one 9 marks on a stupid question wdf
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Post by: AL*Eagle on May 25, 2010, 11:33:51 am
but relly they should add parts in jan 2010 their paper got parts a b c and marks where divided but in this one 9 marks on a stupid question wdf

Messed me UP :(
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Post by: Saladin on May 25, 2010, 11:55:38 am
I think I did not get a single one wrong!! LOL!
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on May 27, 2010, 10:09:31 pm
A shopper pushes a supermarket trolley in a straight line towards her car with a force of magnitude 20N, directed downwards at an angle of 15 degrees to the horizontal.

Given the acceleration is 2.4m/s^2, calculate its mass . (I've done this)

Find also the magnitude of the normal contact force exerted on the trolley by the ground (Need help in this)

Thank you.
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 27, 2010, 11:09:26 pm
resolve vertically
upwards force =R
downwards forces=mg+20sin15
now use the mass
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Post by: 7ooD on May 28, 2010, 09:39:10 pm
we need m2 doubts sticky!
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Post by: Saladin on May 29, 2010, 07:05:20 am
Post all your M2 doubts here!
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Post by: 7ooD on May 30, 2010, 04:31:48 pm
what does this sign | means i always see in the ms when giving a range and how to know where the Y component and x component of the reaction of the wall on the hinge is acting because in 2005 june q 6 x and y were acting x ----- left    and y up  in 2007 june q 5 it was x ------- right y ---- down  im relly confused about this here is the images of the diagrams

2005 

(http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/7ood/5dfbc803.jpg)

2007

(http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/7ood/601e6e6d.jpg)
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Post by: egymoha on May 30, 2010, 10:20:47 pm
In most of the coofficient of restitution questions i see (when they say find the range of value of e ) ,, in the mark scheme and the answers ,, they usually say v1>0 ,, why do they use V1 rather than V2 .

please someone reply

thanks my friend
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Post by: Meticulous on May 31, 2010, 01:01:35 am
what does this sign | means i always see in the ms when giving a range and how to know where the Y component and x component of the reaction of the wall on the hinge is acting because in 2005 june q 6 x and y were acting x ----- left    and y up  in 2007 june q 5 it was x ------- right y ---- down  im relly confused about this here is the images of the diagrams

2005 

(http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/7ood/5dfbc803.jpg)

2007

(http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/7ood/601e6e6d.jpg)

The sign means the modulus; i.e. always positive

and you ALWAYS take Y and X values of the reaction. Even if there's only one, lets see an X component only, then Y will be zero. Therefore, to avoid confusion, always take Y and X components.
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Post by: Meticulous on May 31, 2010, 01:03:06 am
In most of the coofficient of restitution questions i see (when they say find the range of value of e ) ,, in the mark scheme and the answers ,, they usually say v1>0 ,, why do they use V1 rather than V2 .

please someone reply

thanks my friend

It depends on the question. For example, if there is further collision or not.
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Post by: 7ooD on May 31, 2010, 01:09:21 am
thx a.f but u misunderstood i meant how to kno in which direction does y act and x act cuz as i gave example in the question above one had y acting up and the other had y acting down same thing happened wiz x one was acting left other was acting right thats what i meant
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Post by: Meticulous on May 31, 2010, 01:14:18 am
thx a.f but u misunderstood i meant how to kno in which direction does y act and x act cuz as i gave example in the question above one had y acting up and the other had y acting down same thing happened wiz x one was acting left other was acting right thats what i meant
Don't worry mate! Put them in the direction you want, up or down ya wadee3 :P

Caues at last, if you put it in the wrong direction, your answer would be in negative, and you would know ;)
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Post by: 7ooD on May 31, 2010, 01:38:43 am
seems wise ostaaaaaz :D
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Post by: egymoha on May 31, 2010, 09:44:29 am
It depends on the question. For example, if there is further collision or not.

ok so how do i solve the questions of range of values of e ,, cause i dunno how to solve them ??

how should i think ??

thanks friends
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Post by: Meticulous on May 31, 2010, 12:28:24 pm
To be honest, these questions are tricky. Give me a question from the past paper or book, and I'll show you ;)
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Post by: 7ooD on May 31, 2010, 03:19:00 pm
ok look egy for example if he asks when a particle A was moving towards C and rebounds and moves in opposite direction on the same time another particle B was moving same direction as the direction of A when it rebounds so they ask whether A hits B or not this means that A speed should be greater than the speed of B then u put an inequality A greater than B and most of questions they ask to put the speed of A in terms of e and also same thing for B thats an example hope it helps :D
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Post by: egymoha on June 01, 2010, 09:35:50 am
what about June 2006 8b ?
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Post by: crazed2009 on June 02, 2010, 07:01:40 am
Don't worry mate! Put them in the direction you want, up or down ya wadee3 :P

Caues at last, if you put it in the wrong direction, your answer would be in negative, and you would know ;)

actually A.F tht doesnt always work.. i was also coming to ask the same question - which way do we put the reactional force?????... c this Q:

a window of mass 15kg and height 120cm is hinged along its top edge. It is kept open by the thrust frm a light strut of lenght 50cm attached to the wall and perpindicular to the lower edge of the window. By modelling the window as a uniform lamina, calculate the thrust in the strut and the magnitude an direction of the force exerted on the window by the hinge? (u hv to draw the diagram)

i attached the answer... i got T but i dnt really understand the rest.. :S...
y is the reactional force acting upwards meaning tht at the hinge the horizontal force is to the left and the vertical force is upwards???? if u put them any other way the correct answer doesnt cm... :S:SS:
\HELP PLEEEEEEEEEEEEZ
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Post by: Meticulous on June 02, 2010, 08:15:12 am
I apologize everybody for the delay! I'm on it now :)

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Post by: Meticulous on June 02, 2010, 08:59:25 am
what about June 2006 8b ?

First of all:

VB = u(e+1)/5

And e between B and the wall = 4/5

Therefore, the velocity of B after rebounding= 4/5 * u(e+1)/ 5 = 4u(e+1)/25

There is a further collision between A and B, and so VBrebound > VA

PLUS, VA > 0 -----> u(4e-1)/5 >0 and so e>1/4

here is a further collision between A and B, and so VBrebound > VA :
 
e<9/16

combine the two inequalities to give you

1/4 < e < 9/16

Was I clear ::) ?



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Post by: Meticulous on June 02, 2010, 09:04:49 am
actually A.F tht doesnt always work.. i was also coming to ask the same question - which way do we put the reactional force?????... c this Q:

a window of mass 15kg and height 120cm is hinged along its top edge. It is kept open by the thrust frm a light strut of lenght 50cm attached to the wall and perpindicular to the lower edge of the window. By modelling the window as a uniform lamina, calculate the thrust in the strut and the magnitude an direction of the force exerted on the window by the hinge? (u hv to draw the diagram)

i attached the answer... i got T but i dnt really understand the rest.. :S...
y is the reactional force acting upwards meaning tht at the hinge the horizontal force is to the left and the vertical force is upwards???? if u put them any other way the correct answer doesnt cm... :S:SS:
\HELP PLEEEEEEEEEEEEZ

Pls post the original q to see if i have the answer to it, and save time ;)
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Post by: crazed2009 on June 02, 2010, 10:15:53 am
its a txtbk question ...  :-X
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Post by: raimunts on June 04, 2010, 08:38:48 pm
Hello. Can someone PLEASE help me solve these two kinematics questions? They are from the Edexcel AS Modular Mathematics M2 book:
Edexcel AS Modular Mathematics M2
Ex.1A No. 16, page: 11
Ex.1B No. 12, page: 19

Any help will be really appreciated. Thanx a lot in advance!
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Post by: raimunts on June 05, 2010, 08:47:47 am
Someone please help me fast! It's urgent! Pleaaase!!  :(
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Post by: cooldude on June 05, 2010, 01:00:15 pm
Hello. Can someone PLEASE help me solve these two kinematics questions? They are from the Edexcel AS Modular Mathematics M2 book:
Edexcel AS Modular Mathematics M2
Ex.1A No. 16, page: 11
Ex.1B No. 12, page: 19

Any help will be really appreciated. Thanx a lot in advance!

if u posted the question there is a higher probability you would get the answer as the textbook you are referring to, is not in the possession of every person who has the capability of answering your doubt
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Post by: 7ooD on June 05, 2010, 06:02:56 pm
for my doubt about where to put the directions if hinged at a wall u can put in the moment equation wiz its minus sign and in the direction u assumed but if u dnt put minus sign make sure u put it in the direction u found from da equation
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Post by: 3oo3a on June 10, 2010, 05:44:32 pm
hello!
I couldn't find the answer of question 8 (c) january 2010 paper on the internet, i tried finding it alone, and i got (5i)(c^2 +1)

anyone got the same? :)
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Post by: 7ooD on June 10, 2010, 05:51:36 pm
i will give it now 1 min
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Post by: 7ooD on June 10, 2010, 06:03:24 pm
here is the markscheme

http://www.scribd.com/doc/28007685/Edexcel-GCE-January-2010-Mechanics-2-M2-Marking-Scheme and

here is how to solve whole question 8

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/7ood/bf1dcc50.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/7ood/ca603707.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/7ood/a5e4a210.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n63/7ood/ec107c11.jpg 
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Post by: shushuIG on June 11, 2010, 02:26:55 am
ould anyone plz help me in jan 2010 in Q4 and 6 plz?? i need it ASAP exam in 2 hours!!:S
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on June 11, 2010, 08:09:26 am
Let me get up.
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on June 11, 2010, 08:34:24 am
too late sorry
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Post by: 7ooD on June 11, 2010, 11:21:18 am
done the exam now it was tricky not easy i kno it was easier than jan 2010 but still was tricky who did the last part in last question correct? im not discussing anything about the paper so plz dnt edit the post
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Post by: anachronism on June 11, 2010, 11:42:12 am
done the exam now it was tricky not easy i kno it was easier than jan 2010 but still was tricky who did the last part in last question correct? im not discussing anything about the paper so plz dnt edit the post

Whatever you said above IS discussing the exam  ::)

POST MODIFIED
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Post by: 7ooD on June 11, 2010, 11:50:26 am
i didnt discuss the contents just said i left last part in last question that wont make someone cheat or something and nobody asked ur opinion u r reported for offensive language
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Post by: anachronism on June 11, 2010, 11:58:08 am
i didnt discuss the contents just said i left last part in last question that wont make someone cheat or something and nobody asked ur opinion u r reported for offensive language

Report me for whatever you want you prick.

I made a simple statement that you did deserve 'moron of the month'. I was simply commenting on an already existing title. And by saying ANYTHING about the exam, you basically discussed it [by definition of discuss]. So there :) You're just angry that I embarrassed you.

[this is a post worth reporting for offensive language]

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Post by: VR on June 11, 2010, 12:01:12 pm
@ astarmathsandphysics

When do the Edexcel GCE Mathematics, May-June 2010 papers and mark schemes go up?
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Post by: VR on June 11, 2010, 12:02:40 pm
When are we allowed to discuss the M2 Paper?
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Post by: 7ooD on June 11, 2010, 12:13:48 pm
@ anachro u have previous history of disrespect for other members https://studentforums.biz/index.php/topic,8186.msg222631.html#msg222631 here and this post shows how u r very careful not to cheat https://studentforums.biz/index.php/topic,8186.msg222525.html#msg222525
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on June 11, 2010, 12:17:47 pm
As soon as I get papers they will go up.
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Post by: anachronism on June 11, 2010, 12:26:59 pm
@ anachro u have previous history of disrespect for other members https://studentforums.biz/index.php/topic,8186.msg222631.html#msg222631 here and this post shows how u r very careful not to cheat https://studentforums.biz/index.php/topic,8186.msg222525.html#msg222525

I love to be mean to dumb people who look for it, what it to you?  ::)

And you quoted by out of context, if you did do your research/stalking of my posts you'd see that I do not support cheating. In that post, I simply pointed out that CIE in fact won't ever know or they can't do anything about it.
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Post by: VR on June 11, 2010, 12:56:27 pm
As soon as I get papers they will go up.


Yes, and when is that usually?
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on June 11, 2010, 02:11:42 pm
maybe 3 months
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Post by: 7ooD on June 12, 2010, 12:47:35 am
here iz the paper wiz solutions sry t.q this time :P posted before u https://studentforums.biz/index.php/topic,9101.msg268262.html#msg268262
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Post by: anachronism on June 12, 2010, 01:30:40 pm
here iz the paper wiz solutions sry t.q this time :P posted before u https://studentforums.biz/index.php/topic,9101.msg268262.html#msg268262

Yea, but just like TQ you didn't produce that document so I dunno what you are celebrating about now  :(
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Post by: Meticulous on June 15, 2010, 04:10:19 pm
Sorry for the inconvenience 7ood.

His post is modified now. :)
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Post by: spiderman on August 29, 2010, 07:58:51 am
hey guys..........................please cud ull help me wit this sum!!


A boy of weight 294N falls 2.5 m onto a trampoline, which brings him to rest after he has descended a further distance of 0.2m. Calculate the k.e of the boy when he reaches the trampoline, and the energy stored in the trampoline when the boy is at rest?
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Post by: S.M.A.T on August 29, 2010, 02:08:57 pm
K.E=WORK DONE=294×2.5=735J
E.P.E=0.5Fx=0.5×294×0.2=29.4J
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Post by: spiderman on August 29, 2010, 03:39:54 pm
But the answer given is  794N for the second part......... ???
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Post by: nid404 on August 29, 2010, 03:43:46 pm
hey guys..........................please cud ull help me wit this sum!!


A boy of weight 294N falls 2.5 m onto a trampoline, which brings him to rest after he has descended a further distance of 0.2m. Calculate the k.e of the boy when he reaches the trampoline, and the energy stored in the trampoline when the boy is at rest?

Total energy stored= 294 X (2.5+0.2)= 793.8 J
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Post by: S.M.A.T on August 29, 2010, 03:48:35 pm
Total energy stored= 294 X (2.5+0.2)= 793.5 J

Can you please explain the answer,the formula for the elastic potential energy is 0.5Fx,where x is the extension.But how come the answer is 793.5J
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Post by: nid404 on August 29, 2010, 03:54:18 pm
793.8..modified my post.

Well apparently the potential energy is converted to the elastic potential energy in the trampoline.

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Post by: S.M.A.T on August 29, 2010, 04:07:02 pm
Thanks +rep ;D ;D :D
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Post by: nid404 on August 29, 2010, 04:07:50 pm
Not a problem  :)
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Post by: nid404 on August 29, 2010, 04:25:52 pm
I have a doubt  ::)

A racing car of mass 2000kg accelerates with a driving force of 480(t-10)2 newtons until it reaches its maximum speed after 10seconds. Find its maximum speed,and the distance it travels in reaching this speed.

I don't know even know how to begin -_-
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Post by: nid404 on August 29, 2010, 04:32:28 pm
And yes I do feel extremely dumb... :-[
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Post by: cooldude on August 29, 2010, 05:13:07 pm
I have a doubt  ::)

A racing car of mass 2000kg accelerates with a driving force of 480(t-10)2 newtons until it reaches its maximum speed after 10seconds. Find its maximum speed,and the distance it travels in reaching this speed.

I don't know even know how to begin -_-

F=ma
a=480(t-10)^2/2000
we integrate with the limits 10 and 0 to find the max vel, and then integrate the velocity again with limits 10 and 0 to find the distance travelled.
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Post by: S.M.A.T on August 29, 2010, 05:25:16 pm
Here
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Post by: nid404 on August 29, 2010, 05:27:10 pm
Thank you guys :) +rep
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Post by: haris94 on September 08, 2010, 08:10:40 pm
some1 pls help me with this
the question is killing me

as the car passes a point A, its speed is 10m/s. the car moves with constant acceleration 'a'm/s2 along the road for 'T' seconds until it reaches a point B where the speed is 'V'm/s. the car travels at this speed for a further 10 seconds to reach a point C. from C, it travels for a further 'T' seconds with constant acceleration 3'a'm/s2 until it reaches a speed of 20m/s at point D. sketch a tv graph of motion and show that 'V' is 12.5m/s. given that the distance between A and D is 675m, find the value of 'a' and 'T'.

pls answer asap
Thanks
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on September 09, 2010, 03:50:48 pm
here
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Post by: haris94 on September 10, 2010, 11:41:28 am
thanx a lot sir
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Post by: thecandydoll on September 14, 2010, 02:59:35 am
when object A is placed on object B which is placed on the floor(rough horizontal floor)
find co-eff of friction between B and floor.
Mass of a -250
mass of b- 200
A horizontal force of
magnitude PN is applied to B. The boxes remain at rest if P ? 3150 and start to move
if P > 3150.

The coefficient of friction between the two boxes is 0.2. Given that P > 3150 and that no sliding takes
place between the boxes,
(ii) show that the acceleration of the boxes is not greater than 2ms?2,

(iii) find the maximum possible value of P.


How do you go about this kind of sums :(
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Post by: nid404 on September 14, 2010, 07:43:57 am
when object A is placed on object B which is placed on the floor(rough horizontal floor)
find co-eff of friction between B and floor.
Mass of a -250
mass of b- 200
A horizontal force of
magnitude PN is applied to B. The boxes remain at rest if P ? 3150 and start to move
if P > 3150.

The coefficient of friction between the two boxes is 0.2. Given that P > 3150 and that no sliding takes
place between the boxes,
(ii) show that the acceleration of the boxes is not greater than 2ms?2,

(iii) find the maximum possible value of P.


How do you go about this kind of sums :(

i) P max= uR
P<= 0.75 x 8000
P<=6000N

ii)F=0.4X4000=1600N

1600>=400a
a<=4m/s^2

Pmax-1600=3200
Pmax=9200 N
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Post by: houmeira on September 25, 2010, 02:50:51 pm
can anyone plz help with this question:

two forces of magnitudes P N and 5 N act on a body. The angle between the two forces is theta and their resultant has magnitude 7N
    
when the direction of the 5 N force is reversed the magnitude of the new resultant is sqrt 19 N
calculate (i) the value of P
             (ii) the value theta
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Post by: houmeira on September 25, 2010, 02:57:12 pm
can anyone plz help with this question:

two forces of magnitudes P N and 5 N act on a body. The nagle between the two forces is theta and their resultant has magnitude 7N
    
when the direction of the 5 N force is reversed the magnitude of the new resultant is sqrt 19 N
calculate (i) the value of P
             (ii) the value theta


 theta is between P N and 5N
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Post by: Deadly_king on September 25, 2010, 04:17:22 pm
can anyone plz help with this question:

two forces of magnitudes P N and 5 N act on a body. The angle between the two forces is theta and their resultant has magnitude 7N
    
when the direction of the 5 N force is reversed the magnitude of the new resultant is sqrt 19 N
calculate (i) the value of P
             (ii) the value theta

I'll take theta as A
Using cosine rule :
72 = 52 + P2 - 2(5)(P)cosA
49 = 25 + P2 - 10PcosA
24 = P2 - 10PcosA
That is the first equation.

Again use the cosine rule
19 = 25 +P2 -10Pcos(180-A)
-6 = P2 - 10Pcos(180-A)

This is the second equation. Now you just need to solve simultaneously :)
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Post by: houmeira on September 25, 2010, 04:36:28 pm
yeah thanks i've tried itbefore and it's the simultaneous eqtn..i'm getting trouble to solve:S
need some help to solve it><
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Post by: houmeira on September 25, 2010, 05:24:28 pm
yeah thanks i've tried itbefore and it's the simultaneous eqtn..i'm getting trouble to solve:S
need some help to solve it><


yay i got the answer!!#
thanks deadly king:P
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Post by: Deadly_king on September 25, 2010, 05:41:21 pm

yay i got the answer!!#
thanks deadly king:P

Ok then :)

you welcome :)
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on October 04, 2010, 09:06:40 pm
elastic question someone asked me on skype

A light elastic string has natural length 2.5m and modulus elasticity 15 N. A particle P of mass 0.5kg is attached to the string at the point K where K divides the unstretched string in the ratio 2:3. The ends of the string are then attached to the points A and B which are 5m apart on a smooth horizontal surface. The particle is then pulled aside and held at rest in contact with the surface at the point C where AC = 3m and ACB is a straight line. The particle is then released from rest.
a) show that P moves with simple harmonic motion of period pi/5 root2
b) find the amplitude of the motion
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Post by: thecandydoll on October 17, 2010, 05:11:01 am
CIE
MAy june 2010.
paper 4,mechanics
Variant 43
Question 4.

We have to find the co-eff of friction of b.
We know Tension.
calculate for above subquestion.
it says the B moves up,so does this mean it accelerate up?
There fore T and a must be in the same direction?
Friction in the opposite direction?
I dont get it.

Please clear this for me.
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Post by: nid404 on October 17, 2010, 05:54:12 am
2 objects joined together by an inextensible string; the string will have an even tension and particles will have the same acceleration.

So whether the particle is moving up or down, they both have the same acceleration.

I've drawn the free body diagram, hope it helps.

attached.
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Post by: thecandydoll on October 17, 2010, 07:27:02 am
2009 oct november
mechanics cie
paper 41
Q4!
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Post by: nid404 on October 17, 2010, 07:35:16 am
I hope you understood the post above :/

Nov 09 Q4 --> https://studentforums.biz/math-146/mechanics-question/15/

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Post by: thecandydoll on October 17, 2010, 09:09:07 am
Thank youuu :D
And one more.
CIE.
MECHANICS.
PAPER 42. MAY/JUNE 2010.
Q6 (ii)
In the markscheme it says

0.2a2 = –0.06g

how do they get the -0.06
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Post by: thecandydoll on October 17, 2010, 09:10:11 am
I just realised thats the frictional force!
TTHANKK YOU
scratch that
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on October 19, 2010, 09:46:16 am
winter 2009, paper 41..

Q4..

(AS level)

Could someone plz include diagrams and explanations in the answer...thanks a lot..
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Post by: Deadly_king on October 19, 2010, 10:37:41 am
winter 2009, paper 41..

Q4..

(AS level)

Could someone plz include diagrams and explanations in the answer...thanks a lot..

i) First you need to resolve vertically so as to find the reaction.
R = 80 x cos 20 = 75.2 N

Since the block is at rest ----> a = 0
Using Newton's second law of motion : F = ma
T + Fr - mgsin x = ma
where T : tension in the string,
Fr : frictional from between block and the inclined plane
mgsin x : component of weight down the plane and x being the angle of inclination of the plane

Given T =13 and a=0 ----> 13 + Fr - 80sin 20 = 0
Hence Fr is found to be 14.4 N

ii) String is cut off but block is still at rest ----> Fr = mgsin x

Fr = uR where u is the coefficient of friction between block and plane

Hence 80sin 20 = u(75.2) -----> u = 0.364

Sorry I could not add a diagram :-[

Hope it helps :)
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Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on October 19, 2010, 11:21:50 am
i) First you need to resolve vertically so as to find the reaction.
R = 80 x cos 20 = 75.2 N

Since the block is at rest ----> a = 0
Using Newton's second law of motion : F = ma
T + Fr - mgsin x = ma
where T : tension in the string,
Fr : frictional from between block and the inclined plane
mgsin x : component of weight down the plane and x being the angle of inclination of the plane

Given T =13 and a=0 ----> 13 + Fr - 80sin 20 = 0
Hence Fr is found to be 14.4 N

ii) String is cut off but block is still at rest ----> Fr = mgsin x

Fr = uR where u is the coefficient of friction between block and plane

Hence 80sin 20 = u(75.2) -----> u = 0.364

Sorry I could not add a diagram :-[

Hope it helps :)

erm, is that question 4 of winter 2009 M1 (paper 41) paper? :-/
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Post by: The Golden Girl =D on October 19, 2010, 01:36:35 pm
Hey ,I just wanted to know How Am i supposed to study for M1 , I want to know what is the best way to study for this Subject ?

Because i got this really Low grade in the Quiz and I don't want to show my Dad :S  Since I'm dead meat for sure  :-X :-X

Thank You In Advance .
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Post by: elemis on October 19, 2010, 02:42:48 pm
@GG are you doing Edexcel or CIE M1 ?
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Post by: SpongeBob on October 19, 2010, 03:19:01 pm
winter 2009, paper 41..

Q4..

(AS level)

Could someone plz include diagrams and explanations in the answer...thanks a lot..

I hope you understood the post above :/

Nov 09 Q4 --> https://studentforums.biz/math-146/mechanics-question/15/




Is this the one?
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Post by: Deadly_king on October 19, 2010, 04:14:48 pm
erm, is that question 4 of winter 2009 M1 (paper 41) paper? :-/

That was June 09 p4 No4

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Post by: The Golden Girl =D on October 19, 2010, 04:39:14 pm
@GG are you doing Edexcel or CIE M1 ?

Edexcel
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Post by: Deadly_king on October 19, 2010, 05:29:53 pm
Hey ,I just wanted to know How Am i supposed to study for M1 , I want to know what is the best way to study for this Subject ?

Because i got this really Low grade in the Quiz and I don't want to show my Dad :S  Since I'm dead meat for sure  :-X :-X

Thank You In Advance .

M1 is supposed to be easy especially for those doing physics.

Hmm............studying M1 does not actually require much knowledge. You just need to understand the basic principles. Then only practice might help you perform well ;)
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Post by: The Golden Girl =D on October 19, 2010, 07:36:05 pm
M1 is supposed to be easy especially for those doing physics.

Hmm............studying M1 does not actually require much knowledge. You just need to understand the basic principles. Then only practice might help you perform well ;)

Practice ..Ohh Ya :S :S

Thanks  :)
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Post by: **RoRo** on November 26, 2010, 04:09:31 pm
Mechanics shall drive me nuts soon!! :/

Question, from the chapter vectors, I came across this question and I got the answer from the CD that came with the book, but I can't understand

Q. An aeroplane flies from airport A to airport B 80 km away on a bearing of 070?. From B the aeroplane flies to airport C, 60 km from B. Airport C is 90 km from A. Find the two possible directions for the course set by the aeroplane on the second stage of its journey.

Ans. ?cos?? =(62+82?92) / (2×6×8) =0.19791…
? =78.6°(3 s.f.)

?bearing ofC from B is
180°+70°??=171.4°(1 d.p.) or 180°+70°+?=323.6°(1 d.p.)

& the diagram that they showed is attached below.

I don't understand how did they reach to this diagram and hence the solution!

Any help will be much appreciated!

Thanks a lot in advance! :)
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Post by: ashish on November 27, 2010, 06:41:24 am
Mechanics shall drive me nuts soon!! :/

Question, from the chapter vectors, I came across this question and I got the answer from the CD that came with the book, but I can't understand

Q. An aeroplane flies from airport A to airport B 80 km away on a bearing of 070?. From B the aeroplane flies to airport C, 60 km from B. Airport C is 90 km from A. Find the two possible directions for the course set by the aeroplane on the second stage of its journey.

Ans. ?cos?? =(62+82?92) / (2×6×8) =0.19791…
? =78.6°(3 s.f.)

?bearing ofC from B is
180°+70°??=171.4°(1 d.p.) or 180°+70°+?=323.6°(1 d.p.)

& the diagram that they showed is attached below.

I don't understand how did they reach to this diagram and hence the solution!

Any help will be much appreciated!

Thanks a lot in advance! :)


it's like or it's a locus question.
locus of a point of r cm is a circle with radius r cm
 and in this particular question C will be where the two circle intersect each other

sorry for the handwriting
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Post by: **RoRo** on November 27, 2010, 07:44:40 am
it's like or it's a locus question.
locus of a point of r cm is a circle with radius r cm
 and in this particular question C will be where the two circle intersect each other

sorry for the handwriting

Ohhh, now that makes sense!

Thanks a lot!  ;D
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Post by: **RoRo** on November 27, 2010, 12:18:15 pm
One more question!

A particle P is moving along the x-axis with constant deceleration 2.5ms?2. At time t=0s, P passes through the origin with velocity 20ms?1 in the direction of x increasing. At time t=12s, P is at the point A. Find

(a) the distance OA,

(b) the total distance P travels in 12 s.


The answer for (a) is 60m and for (b) it's 100m.

HOW?
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Post by: elemis on November 27, 2010, 12:22:58 pm
Doing it now.
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Post by: elemis on November 27, 2010, 12:27:45 pm
s = ut + 0.5at2

s = 20*12 + 0.5*-2.5*122

s = 60m

--------------------------------------------

I cant answer the second part since you must have left some information out or maybe the question is wrong.
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Post by: **RoRo** on November 27, 2010, 12:42:17 pm
s = ut + 0.5at2

s = 20*12 + 0.5*-2.5*122

s = 60m

--------------------------------------------

I cant answer the second part since you must have left some information out or maybe the question is wrong.

Thank you!

Nope, the question is complete from the textbook.

According to the CD that I have, this is the working of the answer.

The particle will turn round when v=0.

a =?2.5, u=20, v=0, s=?

v2 =u2+2a?s

02 =202?5s

?s=80
 
The total distance P travels is (80+20)m=100m.

& the photo attached is the photo that they have shown.

It's alright, I figured it out now, I copied a wrong number into my calculator and hence my entire working was wrong! -.-'

Thank you!  ;D
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Post by: elemis on November 27, 2010, 12:44:30 pm
True, that skipped my mind. Glad you figured it out. ;)
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Post by: **RoRo** on November 27, 2010, 12:59:37 pm
Okay, a few [probably stupid and silly] questions related to the presentation of answers, but I guess they do matter when answering a paper!

1. How many s.f. are we supposed to leave our answers to? 2 or 3?

2. For questions on bearings, do we leave our angles to only 1 d.p.?

3. If a bearing is 42.5, do we leave the answer as 42.5 or 042.5? [since bearings are supposed to consist of 3 digits]

4. If an answer to a question is a long decimal, for example, an answer is 0.714285714 on the calculator, do I leave the answer as 0.71 or (5/7)?

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Post by: elemis on November 27, 2010, 01:08:34 pm
Answers to 3 s.f. unless told otherwise.

Angles to 1 d.p.

Giving it as either will get the mark, however, to be safe stick to 042.5

State the answer exactly i.e. in fractions or surds whenever possible.
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Post by: **RoRo** on November 27, 2010, 01:09:52 pm
Okie! Thanks a lot!  ;D
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Post by: elemis on November 27, 2010, 01:14:39 pm
Okie! Thanks a lot!  ;D

Good luck ;)

When are you doing your M1 exam ? CIE or Edexcel ?
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Post by: **RoRo** on November 27, 2010, 01:19:02 pm
Thank you! :D

I'm doing Edexcel, in the May/June 2011 session.

But I've got my first term school exams in a week, so yea, I'm preparing for them now!

What about you?
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Post by: elemis on November 27, 2010, 01:23:10 pm
Thank you! :D

I'm doing Edexcel, in the May/June 2011 session.

But I've got my first term school exams in a week, so yea, I'm preparing for them now!

What about you?

I'm doing M1 this coming January.
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Post by: **RoRo** on November 27, 2010, 01:25:47 pm
Good luck!! (Y)

My school doesn't allow us to take any exams in November [for CIE] and January [for Edexcel], just the May/June session! :/
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Post by: mdwael on November 27, 2010, 04:50:53 pm


A particle P is moving on the x-axis with constant deceleration of 4 (ms^-2). At time t= 0, P passes through the origin O with velocity 14 (ms-1) in the positive direction. The point A lies on the axis and OA = 22.5 m.
a) Find the difference between the times when P passes through A. (ans 2 sec)
b) Find the total distance travelled by P during the interval between these times. (ans 4m)

I got the first part as 2 sec which is correct, the second part is 4m but I dont understand how do you reach this answer?

Thanks in advance
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on November 27, 2010, 11:57:22 pm
s=0
u=
v=
a=-4
t=2
by symmetry v=-u
a=(v-u)/t
-4=2v/2
v=-4
s=
u=4
v=0
a=-4
t=1
s=ut+1/2at^2=4*1+1/2*-4*1^2=2
2m to stop and 2m back=4m

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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on December 06, 2010, 10:02:17 pm
Q)Perry left school driving towards the lake one hour before jaidee.
jaidee drove in the opposite direction going 6mph slower then perry for one hour after which time they
were 174 min apart. What was perry's speed.
I assume you mean 174 miles apart.
Perry's speed is v. After t hours Perry's distance from start point is vt.
Jaidee's distqance from start point is (t-1)(v-6)
vt+ (t-1)(v-6)=174
t=2 cos jaidee drove for 1 hour, 1 hour less than Perry.
2v+v-6=174
v=30
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Post by: S.M.A.T on December 12, 2010, 08:31:36 pm
I am stuck on part b) of this question,I thought the answer is 0.5m but the book's answer is 0.4m

someone please help.

thanks in advance :D

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Post by: The Golden Girl =D on December 15, 2010, 07:09:20 pm
Guys I've got an exam tomorrow so can you please answer this Question for me :(

Hmm in this Equation :

S=ut+0.5a(time Square)

When do we take the S as Displacement and when do we take it as Distance :'(

Please help

thx =]
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Post by: iluvme on December 15, 2010, 07:17:49 pm
S is always the displacement and never the distance.
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Post by: The Golden Girl =D on December 15, 2010, 07:25:07 pm
S is always the displacement and never the distance.

Hmm well here is a Question that says :

a book falls off the top of a bookcase.the shelf is 1.4m above the a wooden floor . (a) find the time the book takes to reach the floor , (b) the speed with which the book strikes the floor .

here we used the 1.4m as distance in the Equation I mentioned Prior , while in another Question :

A ball is projected vertically upwards ,from a point X which is 7m above the ground , with speed 21 m/s .Find (a) the greatest height above the ground reached by the ball , (b) the time of flight of the ball

here we used displcement as -7 , hence in the Equation S was used as Discplacement .

y there as distance and here as dicplacement  :-\
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Post by: The Golden Girl =D on December 15, 2010, 07:35:30 pm
Hmm well here is a Question that says :

a book falls off the top of a bookcase.the shelf is 1.4m above the a wooden floor . (a) find the time the book takes to reach the floor , (b) the speed with which the book strikes the floor .

here we used the 1.4m as distance in the Equation I mentioned Prior , while in another Question :

A ball is projected vertically upwards ,from a point X which is 7m above the ground , with speed 21 m/s .Find (a) the greatest height above the ground reached by the ball , (b) the time of flight of the ball

here we used displcement as -7 , hence in the Equation S was used as Discplacement .

y there as distance and here as dicplacement  :-\

I'll go study since I still got some stuff to go over , So I'll see this thread in the morning iA =]

Please DO Help , I really need this  :-\

thx =D
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Post by: iluvme on December 15, 2010, 08:38:19 pm
PM
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Post by: The Golden Girl =D on December 15, 2010, 08:39:38 pm
reading it =]
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Post by: elemis on December 16, 2010, 06:21:20 am
For the first question there is an acceleration involved therefore we use the equations of motion.

However, the second question states the object falls with constant velocity indicating no acceleration hence we can use the simple equation :

speed = distance/time
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on December 21, 2010, 03:51:07 pm
cant answer this until my pc is fixed. Sorry
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Post by: @d!_†oX!© on January 20, 2011, 04:26:15 pm
Hey guys!

I have an exam in 3 days from now, and I feel so dumb cuz I don't know one whole chapter :P
Thought the sf people would be my last bet, so here it goes.
The problem is "Centre of Mass". Basically, the whole topic is a problem, but I guess posting all the questions that I have will be too much :P
So, I would like if someone could explain my the basic concept behind it, using the following two types of questions I have.
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on January 20, 2011, 10:42:22 pm
here
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Post by: @d!_†oX!© on January 21, 2011, 09:45:40 am
here
Thanks astar! You're always the rescue sir  :)
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Post by: @d!_†oX!© on January 22, 2011, 01:09:38 pm
Another one:

Thanks in advance
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on January 22, 2011, 07:59:16 pm
here
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Post by: The Golden Girl =D on January 23, 2011, 05:39:37 pm
M1 Edexcel book page 101 No.4 .

A particle of mass 6 kg hangs in eguilibrium , suspended by two light extensible strings ,inclined at 60 degree and 45 degree to the horizontal ,as shown. Find the tension in each of the strings.

Answer is : S = 30.4 or 30.5 and T = 43.0 ...

what the hell is S o.0 ?
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on January 23, 2011, 07:59:16 pm
here
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Post by: Zishi on February 13, 2011, 07:21:45 am
Hello, anyone please solve this whole question(attached) and explain its answer fully!

Thanks~
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on February 15, 2011, 01:08:56 pm
here
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Post by: **RoRo** on February 17, 2011, 12:43:37 pm
Mechanics is on it's way to drive me insane! -.-"

Guys, I need help in Dynamics, section 5.3, which is about particles inclined on a plane where you need to resolve the forces parallel and perpendicular to the plane.

I don't understand how the forces are resolved, how do they know which angle is it and when to use sin[theta] and cos[theta].

Can someone please explain this to me?

Thanks a lot! :)

& here's an example of a question, in case anyone would need it. :)

A particle of mass 5 kg is at limiting equilibrium on a rough plane which is inclined at an angle of 30 degrees to the horizontal. Find the coefficient of friction between the particle and the plane.
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Post by: The Golden Girl =D on February 17, 2011, 01:18:45 pm
Mechanics is on it's way to drive me insane! -.-"

Guys, I need help in Dynamics, section 5.3, which is about particles inclined on a plane where you need to resolve the forces parallel and perpendicular to the plane.

I don't understand how the forces are resolved, how do they know which angle is it and when to use sin[theta] and cos[theta].

Can someone please explain this to me?

Thanks a lot! :)

& here's an example of a question, in case anyone would need it. :)

A particle of mass 5 kg is at limiting equilibrium on a rough plane which is inclined at an angle of 30 degrees to the horizontal. Find the coefficient of friction between the particle and the plane.

I have two pics that I hope will explain the general idea to you.


look at the worked solution for the Question on this page if you need a better idea of how to do it:

http://www.examsolutions.co.uk/A-Level-maths-tutorials/Edexcel/M1/particles-in-equilibrium/revision-guide.php

=]
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Post by: The Golden Girl =D on February 17, 2011, 01:39:41 pm

Quote
& here's an example of a question, in case anyone would need it. :)

A particle of mass 5 kg is at limiting equilibrium on a rough plane which is inclined at an angle of 30 degrees to the horizontal. Find the coefficient of friction between the particle and the plane.


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Post by: **RoRo** on February 17, 2011, 06:03:55 pm
I have two pics that I hope will explain the general idea to you.


look at the worked solution for the Question on this page if you need a better idea of how to do it:

http://www.examsolutions.co.uk/A-Level-maths-tutorials/Edexcel/M1/particles-in-equilibrium/revision-guide.php

=]

I UNDERSTOOD IT!! =D

Thanks ALOTT!! :D

Now a question, check the photo attached for the question, the diagram and the answer from the CD that came with the textbook.

How is the acceleration = 5/7, when in part a) it was 1.4?
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Post by: The Golden Girl =D on February 17, 2011, 08:12:32 pm
I UNDERSTOOD IT!! =D

Thanks ALOTT!! :D

Now a question, check the photo attached for the question, the diagram and the answer from the CD that came with the textbook.

How is the acceleration = 5/7, when in part a) it was 1.4?

I'm sorry but can you tell me the exact exercise and the number of the Question please.
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Post by: **RoRo** on February 17, 2011, 09:07:38 pm
I'm sorry but can you tell me the exact exercise and the number of the Question please.

I'm sorry, I forgot to attach the file! :/

There you go with it, it's Exercise 3F Q4b
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Post by: elemis on February 18, 2011, 09:46:34 am
I'm sorry, I forgot to attach the file! :/

There you go with it, it's Exercise 3F Q4b

After A hits the ground the string goes slack and there is no tension. Hence, B continues to move upwards but under the force of gravity.

That is, the acceleration of B will be = -9.8 ms-2
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Post by: The Golden Girl =D on February 18, 2011, 10:05:54 am
I'm sorry, I forgot to attach the file! :/

There you go with it, it's Exercise 3F Q4b


my teacher taught us a different way of doing this :

we want the  GREATEST height and so we have to do TWO steps.

Step 1;
the Speed with which the Particle A strikes the ground

u = o , v = ? ,a = 1.4 ms-1 , s = 2

v2 = u2 + 2as
v2 = 0 +( 2 * 1.4 * 2 )
v2 = 5.6
v = 2.37 ms-1

Step 2
the distance traveled by B after A has reached the ground

u = 2.37 , v = 0 , a = - 9.8 (going up hence against gravity ) , s = ?

v2 = u2 + 2as
0 = (2.37)2 + (2*-9.8* s )
{19.6 s = (2.37)2 } / 19.6

s = 0.2865765

MAX height = 2 + 0.2865765
               = 16/7 m

=]
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Post by: elemis on February 18, 2011, 10:09:22 am

my teacher taught us a different way of doing this :

we want the  GREATEST height and so we have to do TWO steps.

Step 1;
the Speed with which the Particle A strikes the ground

u = o , v = ? ,a = 1.4 ms-1 , s = 2

v2 = u2 + 2as
v2 = 0 +( 2 * 1.4 * 2 )
v2 = 5.6
v = 2.37 ms-1

Step 2
the distance traveled by B after A has reached the ground

u = 2.37 , v = 0 , a = - 9.8 (going up hence against gravity ) , s = ?

v2 = u2 + 2as
0 = (2.37)2 + (2*-9.8* s )
{19.6 s = (2.37)2 } / 19.6

s = 0.2865765

MAX height = 2 + 0.2865765
               = 16/7 m

=]

LOL. You didnt answer her question ::)
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Post by: Zishi on February 18, 2011, 12:06:51 pm
here

Thanks for that, but why the two tensions are same? I just can't understand that; which word or thing in the question makes us understand that the tensions will be same. I've solved a lot of questions of like this before, but the tensions in the two strings were not same. Plus, please answer the third part too now!(Attached)
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Post by: **RoRo** on February 18, 2011, 12:31:23 pm
After A hits the ground the string goes slack and there is no tension. Hence, B continues to move upwards but under the force of gravity.

That is, the acceleration of B will be = -9.8 ms-2

mmm, alright, that makes sense too!

My question was, when calculating the acceleration for A, it was taken as 5/7 and not 1.4 like we had found in part a) of the question, why is that?
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Post by: **RoRo** on February 18, 2011, 12:32:24 pm

my teacher taught us a different way of doing this :

we want the  GREATEST height and so we have to do TWO steps.

Step 1;
the Speed with which the Particle A strikes the ground

u = o , v = ? ,a = 1.4 ms-1 , s = 2

v2 = u2 + 2as
v2 = 0 +( 2 * 1.4 * 2 )
v2 = 5.6
v = 2.37 ms-1

Step 2
the distance traveled by B after A has reached the ground

u = 2.37 , v = 0 , a = - 9.8 (going up hence against gravity ) , s = ?

v2 = u2 + 2as
0 = (2.37)2 + (2*-9.8* s )
{19.6 s = (2.37)2 } / 19.6

s = 0.2865765

MAX height = 2 + 0.2865765
               = 16/7 m

=]

This makes more sense to me than the working on the CD, thanks a lot and sorry for all the trouble! :)
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Post by: **RoRo** on February 18, 2011, 01:05:18 pm
Okay, another question:

I don't understand how part c) is solved, the working is given below!

Check the attachment, it has the question and the answer!

Note:
Acceleration of the system = 0.613
Tension in the string = 27.6
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Post by: elemis on February 18, 2011, 01:20:11 pm
mmm, alright, that makes sense too!

My question was, when calculating the acceleration for A, it was taken as 5/7 and not 1.4 like we had found in part a) of the question, why is that?

In part a tension was an added factor, when the tension disappears the acceleration changes.

M1 is about common sense and spatial awareness.
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Post by: elemis on February 18, 2011, 01:21:44 pm
Okay, another question:

I don't understand how part c) is solved, the working is given below!

Check the attachment, it has the question and the answer!

Note:
Acceleration of the system = 0.613
Tension in the string = 27.6

Consider the two tensions as forces (never mind the direction they act in) and find the resultant force.
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on February 18, 2011, 01:27:03 pm
My answer
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on February 18, 2011, 01:28:54 pm
The two tensions are the same because the particle in free to move.
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Post by: **RoRo** on February 18, 2011, 01:37:54 pm
Consider the two tensions as forces (never mind the direction they act in) and find the resultant force.


Alright, thank you very much! :D
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Post by: Zishi on February 19, 2011, 04:39:48 am
The two tensions are the same because the particle in free to move.
Alright, thank you! And what about the third part which I attached in my previous post?

EDIT: By the way I've attached my diagram showing what I did, and how I resolved forces, etc. Please tell me why I can't find R, and if is any direction wrong?!
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Post by: Sue T on February 21, 2011, 01:50:02 pm
i have a question in 2007 june

7. Two small spheres P and Q of equal radius have masses m and 5m respectively. They lie
on a smooth horizontal table. Sphere P is moving with speed u when it collides directly
with sphere Q which is at rest. The coefficient of restitution between the spheres is e,
where e > 1/5

(a) (i) Show that the speed of P immediately after the collision is u/6(5e-1)

(ii) Find an expression for the speed of Q immediately after the collision, giving your
answer in the form ?u, where ? is in terms of e.
the marking scheme dint say nything bout this one - wat is it??!

Three small spheres A, B and C of equal radius lie at rest in a straight line on a smooth
horizontal table, with B between A and C. The spheres A and C each have mass 5m, and the
mass of B is m. Sphere B is projected towards C with speed u. The coefficient of restitution
between each pair of spheres is .

(b) Show that, after B and C have collided, there is a collision between B and A.

th marking scheme said:
After B hits C, velocity of B = “v” = 1/6 (1 – 5*4/5 )u = – ½u
velocity < 0 ? change of direction ? B hits A
but were did all the negative come from - wasn't it  u/6(5e-1)? why'd they reverse the signs out of no where??! is it jus 4 the sake of proving tht there'll be a collision?!
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Post by: **RoRo** on February 21, 2011, 04:19:00 pm
How do you solve part c) ?

Check the attachment below for the question.
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Post by: elemis on February 21, 2011, 04:20:40 pm
How do you solve part c) ?

Check the attachment below for the question.

2 minutes.
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Post by: **RoRo** on February 21, 2011, 04:35:11 pm
(a) -2g-0.4(2g*0.8 ) = 2*a

Therefore a = -12.936 ms-2

Using V^2-U^2=2as we find distance = 0.154607 m ?

Correct ?

Nope, the correct answer is 1.1ms-1 (2 s.f.)

& the working on the CD is attached, but I don't understand how did the get that 2a = 14g/25?

In part b) we had to show that the box will slide down the plane, so I took the net force down the plane and that was the answer [14g/25], how did that change to acceleration all of a sudden?
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Post by: elemis on February 21, 2011, 04:40:40 pm
Nope, the correct answer is 1.1ms-1 (2 s.f.)

& the working on the CD is attached, but I don't understand how did the get that 2a = 14g/25?

In part b) we had to show that the box will slide down the plane, so I took the net force down the plane and that was the answer [14g/25], how did that change to acceleration all of a sudden?


I made a mistake using the wrong initial speed.

When the diagram slides back down the plane it will accelerate obviously.

Using the below diagram :

We can see the friction acts in the opposite direction to motion. Resolving the forces :

Hence, 2g*sin alpha -0.4*2g cos alpha = 2*a

a = 2.744 ms^-2

Since the velocity at the top of the slope will be zero :

v^2 = 0^2 + 2*a*0.22

V = 1.10 ms^-1
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Post by: elemis on February 21, 2011, 04:44:18 pm
For part (b) we can imagine the particle momentarily at rest.

Considering the frictional force only : 0.4*R = 6.272 N

Comparing this to the weight : 2g*0.6 = 11.76 N

We can see that friction cannot prevent the weight from pulling the object down.
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Post by: **RoRo** on February 21, 2011, 05:06:24 pm
I made a mistake using the wrong initial speed.

When the diagram slides back down the plane it will accelerate obviously.

Using the below diagram :

We can see the friction acts in the opposite direction to motion. Resolving the forces :

Hence, 2g*sin alpha -0.4*2g cos alpha = 2*a

a = 2.744 ms^-2

Since the velocity at the top of the slope will be zero :

v^2 = 0^2 + 2*a*0.22

V = 1.10 ms^-1

How is s=0.22?
And the acceleration will not be taken as a negative value because when we resolved the forces and found the acceleration, the resultant was in the downwards direction?
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Post by: **RoRo** on March 20, 2011, 04:54:34 pm
Can anyone please solve part b for this question with the steps for the working?

The answer for a) 11.4N and for b) is 13.9N

I found that I can get the answer by doing the following:

R= 11.4Cos35 + 8Cos55 = 13.9

But I don't understand why is it an addition sign?

The horizontal 8N force, when resolved, should have 2 values, one that acts up the plane and the other one is perpendicular to it, why is it pointing downwards? [to get the answer 13.9]

I'm hoping my question is clear, if not, please let me know and I'll clarify further! :)
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on March 20, 2011, 11:42:00 pm
look at the arrows on the 8N force on the diagram below. The force is pushing the block into the plane
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Post by: **RoRo** on March 21, 2011, 11:57:36 am
look at the arrows on the 8N force on the diagram below. The force is pushing the block into the plane

Oh, okay, I got it, thanks a lot! :)
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Post by: The Golden Girl =D on March 22, 2011, 04:03:54 pm
Chapter 6 , Page 146 , Q1}a] ..... Q2}a] ....and Q4}a]

I NEED this URGENTLY :'(

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Post by: elemis on March 22, 2011, 04:05:54 pm
Chapter 6 , Page 146 , Q1}a] ..... Q2}a] ....and Q4}a]

I NEED this URGENTLY :'(



10 minutes.
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Post by: elemis on March 22, 2011, 04:10:45 pm
Position vector after a time = Initial Position vector + velocity*time

Hence,
Q1
r = 3j +8i
  = 8i +3j

Q2
6i+13j = 2i+3j + 2v

4i +10j = 2v

2i +5j= v

Can you apply the same method for Question 4 ?
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Post by: The Golden Girl =D on March 22, 2011, 04:14:21 pm
Position vector after a time = Initial Position vector + velocity*time

Hence,
Q1
r = 3j +8i
  = 8i +3j

Q2
6i+13j = 2i+3j + 2v

4i +10j = 2v

2i +5j= v

Can you apply the same method for Question 4 ?

Thanks mate :)
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Post by: **RoRo** on April 07, 2011, 07:25:36 pm
I've got a long list of doubts this time!  ;D

Check the attachment for the questions and the answers [at the bottom]

I need the steps for the following questions:

4b)
5a)b)
7c)d)
8c)

Thanks A LOT in advance! :)
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Post by: iluvme on April 07, 2011, 08:15:56 pm
4 b)

Not sure about the others :S
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Post by: **RoRo** on April 07, 2011, 08:32:56 pm
4 b)

Not sure about the others :S

Thank you so much!

I did a super-stupid mistake, instead of adding 4 to 3 and writing the answer as 7, I wrote it as 1! -.-"
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Post by: Darkstar3000 on April 09, 2011, 03:53:29 pm
Question 5 Jan 2008 : http://www.carlgauss.co.uk/PDFs/A-Level%20Papers/M2/M2%20-%202008%20Jan%20Paper.pdf

Mark scheme : http://www.carlgauss.co.uk/PDFs/A-Level%20Papers/M2/M2%20-%202008%20Jan%20Mark%20Scheme.pdf





Am I wrong or is the mark scheme wrong because when I calculate the answer I'm getting 0.72 but they get 0.18

----------------------------------------------------------

How do I do question number 6, the whole thing ?

Thanks
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Post by: elemis on April 09, 2011, 07:10:41 pm
I will answer this tomorrow morning.
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Post by: elemis on April 10, 2011, 06:20:02 am
Question 5

Considering vertical forces you will find that R = 4mg

Taking moments about point B :

2a*cos60*mg + 3a*cos60*3mg + 4a*cos30*4mg\mu = 4a*cos60*4mg

Solve this and you will get an answer of : 0.180

Question 6

Attempt the question and show me your workings. I'll see where you've gone wrong and correct you.
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Post by: Darkstar3000 on April 10, 2011, 11:59:08 am
Question 5

Considering vertical forces you will find that R = 4mg

Taking moments about point B :

2a*cos60*mg + 3a*cos60*3mg + 4a*cos30*4mg\mu = 4a*cos60*4mg

Solve this and you will get an answer of : 0.180

Question 6

Attempt the question and show me your workings. I'll see where you've gone wrong and correct you.

Thank you for question 5.

As for 6, I have no idea where to start it
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Post by: jellybeans on April 11, 2011, 08:01:44 am
Question on the motion of a projectile on an inclined plane

For (a) I equated j component = 0
-> (UsinthetaT - ½gcosthetaT2) = 0
-> (Usin60T - ½gcos30T2) = 0
-> T=0, (root3)U/2 - (root3)g/4(T))T=0
-> (root3)g/4(T) = (root3)U/2
so i got -> T=2U/g

but it says 2U/g(root3)

could somebody help me on this question please.. thanks! :)
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Post by: **RoRo** on April 12, 2011, 12:40:02 pm
Can anyone please solve for me Question 1 in January 2006 and Question 8d in June 2005 [Edexcel Papers] with explanation?

Thank you! :)
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Post by: HUSH1994 on April 17, 2011, 12:55:21 pm
MJ 2003 Q4 part 2,i did it wrong and then the mark scheme had 2 dots above x,anyone can help me with this
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Post by: iluvme on April 17, 2011, 01:18:49 pm
MJ 2003 Q4 part 2,i did it wrong and then the mark scheme had 2 dots above x,anyone can help me with this

CIE?
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Post by: HUSH1994 on April 17, 2011, 02:46:46 pm
yes please
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Post by: iluvme on April 17, 2011, 06:14:15 pm
Two dots above x is d2x/dt2

Here you go,
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Post by: HUSH1994 on April 19, 2011, 04:51:40 pm
Thanks alot,+rep :)
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Post by: **RoRo** on April 20, 2011, 11:46:14 am
Q. A particle is projected vertically upwards from a point A with speed u ms-1. The particle takes 2 6/7 to reach its greatest height above A. Find
a) the value of u
Ans is 28
b) the total time for which the particle is more than 17 1/2m above A.
Ans is 4 2/7

My question is, when doing part b) I get 2 answers 5 and 5/7, why do we subtract them to get 4 2/7?
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on April 25, 2011, 03:28:25 pm
The particle rises above 17 1/2 m at t=5/7 and falls below 17 1/2 m at t=5 so is above 17 1/2 m for 5-2/7 =4 2/7 s
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Post by: **RoRo** on April 25, 2011, 08:36:49 pm
The particle rises above 17 1/2 m at t=5/7 and falls below 17 1/2 m at t=5 so is above 17 1/2 m for 5-2/7 =4 2/7 s

Ohh, okay, thank you! :)

Can you please answer my questions in my previous post here? I uploaded a picture with a couple of questions that I needed help on, thanks a lot! :)
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on April 25, 2011, 09:05:04 pm
Will do them in bed and post in morning
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on April 25, 2011, 10:56:34 pm
Here
 did yo use 30 or 60?
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on April 26, 2011, 01:48:34 pm
those questions answered in attachments
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Post by: **RoRo** on April 29, 2011, 09:21:12 am
those questions answered in attachments

Thank you very much for your help Sir, I'll go through them once I start revising Mechanics again, because right now I've got my A2 math mocks coming up next week!
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Post by: doubtigetastar on April 29, 2011, 09:02:14 pm
Guys i need ur help in this :
a uniform lamina ABCDEF is formed by removing a rectangle of dimensions 8 cm and 12 cm from a square of side length 20 cm , find the distance of the centre of mass of the lamina from its edges : a) AF  b) FE

i made a diagram it's in the attachments .
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on April 29, 2011, 10:28:23 pm
As soon As OS installs
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on April 30, 2011, 07:53:00 am
Attachment uploadedfrom my phone
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Post by: doubtigetastar on April 30, 2011, 11:24:27 am
Thank you very much +REP.
one last question , how did you get the distance of the big rectangle (area 400) from the line FE :D
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on April 30, 2011, 03:04:11 pm
Half of 10 take 2
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Post by: Weaam on May 03, 2011, 02:37:41 pm
Can someone send me a link where I can find edexcel papers and mark schemes for C1 , C2 and M1 ?
Most importantly M1 Jan 09 mark schemee
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 04, 2011, 07:41:33 am
http://www.freeexampapers.com/past_papers.php?l=Past_Papers%2FA+Level%2FMaths%2FEdexcel/
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Post by: wakemeup on May 07, 2011, 09:05:20 pm
Can someone please clearly explain 8d of this question paper to me? The mark scheme isn't making much sense at all.

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Post by: elemis on May 08, 2011, 08:33:57 am
Can someone please clearly explain 8d of this question paper to me? The mark scheme isn't making much sense at all.

The displacement equation for 0<t<4 :

4t2 -0.5t3

From t>4 :

16t - t2 -16

In the first 4 seconds the displacement is : 32m

It is at instantaneous rest at 8 seconds. At this point it changes direction such that its displacement from the origin will begin to DECREASE.

At 8 seconds displacement is : 48

At 10 seconds : 44 m        NOTE : The displacement has decreased as previously stated.

Hence, it travels 48m FORWARDS and 4 m BACKWARDS.

Thus, 48 + 4 = 52m



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Post by: wakemeup on May 08, 2011, 12:16:50 pm
Thanks, I understand it now.
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Post by: iluvme on May 11, 2011, 12:23:59 pm
June 2010 Paper 41 Question 6 i)

I got a=6ms-2

How do you show the speed as 3.95 ms-1?
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Post by: elemis on May 11, 2011, 01:01:56 pm
June 2010 Paper 41 Question 6 i)

I got a=6ms-2

How do you show the speed as 3.95 ms-1?

CIE ? Give me a minute.
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Post by: elemis on May 11, 2011, 01:11:37 pm
0.45*10 - T = 0.45a

T - 0.3*0.2*10 = 0.2a

Adding the two equation to eliminate T gives :

0.45*10 - 0.3*0.2*10 = 0.65a

Solving for a :

a = 6

Now. If you read the first part of the question you'll notice a very important piece of information which I think you've missed :

Quote
Particles A and B, of masses 0.2 kg and 0.45 kg respectively, are connected by a light inextensible
string of length 2.8m
. The string passes over a small smooth pulley at the edge of a rough horizontal
surface, which is 2m above the floor. Particle A is held in contact with the surface at a distance of
2.1m from the pulley and particle B hangs freely (see diagram). The coefficient of friction between
A and the surface is 0.3. Particle A is released and the system begins to move.

That means the distance from the pulley to B is 0.7 m. Hence, B is 1.3 m above the ground.

Use v^2=u^2 +2as  to find the final speed.
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Post by: iluvme on May 11, 2011, 01:16:44 pm
Thanks Ari.

Could you help me with second part too?
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Post by: elemis on May 11, 2011, 01:17:18 pm
Thanks Ari.

Could you help me with second part too?

Okay. Hang on.
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Post by: elemis on May 11, 2011, 01:25:46 pm
When B hits the ground there will be no tension in the string.

Hence, for A :

-0.3*0.2*10 = 0.2*a

a = -3

However, by this time A has moved 1.3 metres towards the pulley (since B fell 1.3 m) and A has a speed of 3.95.

So using this data you should be able to calculate the final speed.

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Post by: iluvme on May 11, 2011, 01:31:40 pm
Why is it -0.3?
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Post by: elemis on May 11, 2011, 01:38:51 pm
Why is it -0.3?

Since friction is acting in the direction OPPOSITE to motion.
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Post by: iluvme on May 11, 2011, 01:41:48 pm
Oh right, so stupid of me.

Thanks Ari. :)
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Post by: **RoRo** on May 12, 2011, 02:52:11 pm
The secret are you edexcel?
and By the way in MJ 2011 P41 the meu(u) was over one, my teacher told me its correct but it can never go beyond 1,so this was a trick?
Last thing is that how do u calculate squared trigonometry fuction,eg:
tan^2(Theta)= -0.56

Yupp, I am Edexcel and I assume the paper you're talking about is CIE!
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Post by: **RoRo** on May 12, 2011, 03:01:23 pm
Can someone please explain to me how do you solve Q7d in January 2010, Q7c in January 2008, Q7f in January 2007 [Edexcel papers]?

Thank you  ;D
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Post by: cashem'up on May 12, 2011, 04:56:53 pm
A light elastic string of natural length 1.6m has modulus of elasticity 100N. One end of the string
is attached to a fixed point. A particle of mass 4 kg is attached to the other end. Find the extension,
e metres, of the string when the particle hangs freely in equilibrium at E.[2]

When the particle is in equilibrium at E, it is given a blow of impulse 20Ns vertically downwards.
Show that, while the string remains taut, the motion of the particle is simple harmonic, and find the
period and amplitude of this simple harmonic motion. [8]

Find also the time that elapses between the blow and the instant when the string first becomes slack.
[4]

The first part is easy to get... but i am having difficulties in the subsequent parts... please help
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Post by: leebux101 on May 12, 2011, 05:37:55 pm
MJ 2003 P4, q 5 ii . PLEASE ASAP!
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Post by: elemis on May 13, 2011, 11:01:40 am
MJ 2003 P4, q 5 ii . PLEASE ASAP!

Consider the two particles to be one single particle of mass 0.4 kg.

Hence,

0.4*10 - (0.4+0.2) = 0.4*a

a = 8.5

Now consider only one of the particles (I will use particle B) :

B has its weight acting downwards, tension upwards and air resistance of force 0.2 N.

Keeping in mind that B is accelerating at 8.5 m/s2 can you calculate the tension ?
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Post by: HUSH1994 on May 13, 2011, 11:41:19 am
MJ 2011 P41 the meu(u) was over one, my teacher told me its correct but it can never go beyond 1,so this was a trick?
Last thing is that how do u calculate squared trigonometry fuction,eg:
tan^2(Theta)= -0.56
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Post by: The Golden Girl =D on May 13, 2011, 12:19:33 pm
Can someone please explain to me how do you solve Q7d in January 2010, Q7c in January 2008, Q7f in January 2007 [Edexcel papers]?

Thank you  ;D

Jan 08 ; Q.7]c)  the fact that you ignored the mass/weight of the particles A and B.  

for such Questions I suggest you read chapter one in the book *the ones with only words and definitions*

Jan 07 : Q.7]f)

16:00 - 14:00 = 2 hrs

at 16:00  , t = 2hrs

11i + (17+10) j

rShip = 11i = 27j

S from R  i.e. RS

RS = rShip - rrock

= (11i + 27j ) - (8.5 + 23 j )
= (2.5 + 4j )

distance RS = square root of (2.52) + (42)

Distance RS = 4.72 Km
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Post by: **RoRo** on May 13, 2011, 12:54:42 pm
Jan 08 ; Q.7]c)  the fact that you ignored the mass/weight of the particles A and B.  

for such Questions I suggest you read chapter one in the book *the ones with only words and definitions*

Jan 07 : Q.7]f)

16:00 - 14:00 = 2 hrs

at 16:00  , t = 2hrs

11i + (17+10) j

rShip = 11i = 27j

S from R  i.e. RS

RS = rShip - rrock

= (11i + 27j ) - (8.5 + 23 j )
= (2.5 + 4j )

distance RS = square root of (2.52) + (42)

Distance RS = 4.72 Km

I think you've solved the wrong questions,

For Q7c in Jan 2008, the question was find the speed of A as it reaches P!

& for 7f in Jan 2007, it's a question from Dynamics not vectors
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Post by: leebux101 on May 13, 2011, 04:27:31 pm
Consider the two particles to be one single particle of mass 0.4 kg.

Hence,

0.4*10 - (0.4+0.2) = 0.4*a

a = 8.5

Now consider only one of the particles (I will use particle B) :

B has its weight acting downwards, tension upwards and air resistance of force 0.2 N.

Keeping in mind that B is accelerating at 8.5 m/s2 can you calculate the tension ?
yes thankyou sooooo much! =D =D
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Post by: leebux101 on May 13, 2011, 04:29:24 pm
ON 2009 P41 q4 , all of it, and can u please explain with a diagram of resolved forces please? =d
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Post by: 8T on May 13, 2011, 06:40:06 pm
Hello :)
Could someone help out in the following questions ?
M1 Jan O8 
4 C
6 b c d
7 all of it
I know they are many but please if anyone could explain how we solve them ?
Thanks in advance :D
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Post by: 8T on May 13, 2011, 07:02:46 pm
ON 2009 P41 q4 , all of it, and can u please explain with a diagram of resolved forces please? =d

This edexcel right ?
Do you mean May or Jan 2009 ???
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Post by: leebux101 on May 13, 2011, 07:14:59 pm
no i mean for CIE, and october november session
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Post by: HUSH1994 on May 14, 2011, 06:39:49 am
Here is Q4 MJ 2003 for ppl who asked :)
https://studentforums.biz/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7281.0;attach=13300;image    (By iluvme)
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Post by: Naruto123 on May 14, 2011, 02:11:42 pm
Hey guyz
like i knw the forces tension nd recently thrust arre there any oder such forces found in connected particles ?

and plz wid a diagram can som1 explain thrust (pushing force) clearly

thanku
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Post by: The Golden Girl =D on May 14, 2011, 05:13:05 pm
Hello :)
Could someone help out in the following questions ?
M1 Jan O8 
4 C
6 b c d
7 all of it
I know they are many but please if anyone could explain how we solve them ?
Thanks in advance :D

check this website =>   http://www.examsolutions.co.uk/

the section that has the Edexcel papers :)
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Post by: leebux101 on May 14, 2011, 05:23:41 pm
ON 2009 P41 q4 , all of it, and can u please explain with a diagram of resolved forces please? =d
can someone please explain this??  :(
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Post by: iluvme on May 14, 2011, 06:01:38 pm
can someone please explain this??  :(

Here you go, and the iii) sorry its not that legible.
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Post by: leebux101 on May 14, 2011, 07:40:38 pm
Here you go, and the iii) sorry its not that legible.
u are awesome .
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Post by: iluvme on May 14, 2011, 08:49:19 pm
Did you get part iii)?
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Post by: leebux101 on May 14, 2011, 08:50:43 pm
Did you get part iii)?
yup! thanks ALOT!
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Post by: SkyPilotage on May 14, 2011, 09:11:32 pm
Hey guys what rule do you use for work??
I use Work by Driving force=change in p.e+change in k.e+work agnst resistance
Others use Work by D - Work agnst R = Final M.E - Initial M.E???
I know both are the same but which is prefered to be used as A RULE before substituting..???

Another question..
When they ask for Loss in K.e..Do we give it as +ve loss or -ve(change) Do you get what I mean?? For ex: if they ask for change answer wod be -ve what if they ask for Loss we give as +ve right?? What abt the equation (rule( do we give it as 0.5m(u^2-v^2) or 0.5(v^2-u^2) then state its -ve because its loss??)
Plz answer me If you are sure  ;)
Thank You ..
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Post by: Blizz_rb93 on May 14, 2011, 09:33:37 pm
January 2009 Question 3 b)
help please
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Post by: iluvme on May 14, 2011, 10:10:36 pm
yup! thanks ALOT!

Welcome :)
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Post by: leebux101 on May 14, 2011, 10:38:23 pm
Hey guys what rule do you use for work??
I use Work by Driving force=change in p.e+change in k.e+work agnst resistance
Others use Work by D - Work agnst R = Final M.E - Initial M.E???
I know both are the same but which is prefered to be used as A RULE before substituting..???

Another question..
When they ask for Loss in K.e..Do we give it as +ve loss or -ve(change) Do you get what I mean?? For ex: if they ask for change answer wod be -ve what if they ask for Loss we give as +ve right?? What abt the equation (rule( do we give it as 0.5m(u^2-v^2) or 0.5(v^2-u^2) then state its -ve because its loss??)
Plz answer me If you are sure  ;)
Thank You ..
ok for ur first question , i had the same confusion, but i have learned that logic works best in this kind of problem, For example >
work is done by the driving force to overcome loss in ke and work done against resistance, because they are both actually working against letting an object move ryt? cuz ke is lost bcuz there was resistance.. do u get it? so work dont by driving force = Loss in ke + work done by resistive forces... secondly this formula >> work done by DF - Work done by Resistive forces = gain in KE , apply this to the situation, if u dont get the answer then u need to think logically about the changes invloved...
if u dont understand this, then PLEASE do ASK me again and i will give u specific example from pastpapers,
for ur second problem >>
u can change the formula from 1/2m(v^2 - u^2) to 1/2m(u^2 - v^2) .. we always write the value as postive no matter if its gain or loss
the first formula is for gain because final speed will be greater than initial speed so u subtract v^2 from u^2.
the second formula is for loss cuz obviously initial speed will be greater than final speed so u subtract u^2 from v^2 ..
do u get it?
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Post by: The Golden Girl =D on May 15, 2011, 10:49:36 am
URGENT  June 2010 Q8]c)  , Edexcel By the way..

I got the S= 0.025 , t = 0.0714 , as well as the v = 0.7 , but I can't seem to get the Total distance nor total time right =.=

Thank you in advance :)

Attached.
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Post by: EMO123 on May 15, 2011, 11:47:36 am
URGENT  June 2010 Q8]d)  , Edexcel By the way..

I got the S= 0.025 , t = 0.0714 , as well as the v = 0.7 , but I can't seem to get the Total distance nor total time right =.=

Thank you in advance :)

Attached.
there is no Q8 d)
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Post by: The Golden Girl =D on May 15, 2011, 01:00:20 pm
I meant c)
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Post by: The Golden Girl =D on May 15, 2011, 06:48:05 pm
URGENT  June 2010 Q8]c)  , Edexcel By the way..

I got the S= 0.025 , t = 0.0714 , as well as the v = 0.7 , but I can't seem to get the Total distance nor total time right =.=

Thank you in advance :)

Attached.

Anyone  :-X
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Post by: HUSH1994 on May 16, 2011, 04:09:50 am
After the string breaks the acceleration becomes 10ms^2,the distance is 1 + distance moved up in 0.5s :)
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Post by: your sister on May 16, 2011, 06:31:37 am
goodluck for M1 cie-ers :)
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Post by: HUSH1994 on May 16, 2011, 07:05:19 am
goodluck for M1 cie-ers :)

Thanks and same to you,exam in 2 hours :D
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Post by: ........ on May 16, 2011, 03:23:20 pm
Hey guys what rule do you use for work??
I use Work by Driving force=change in p.e+change in k.e+work agnst resistance
Others use Work by D - Work agnst R = Final M.E - Initial M.E???
I know both are the same but which is prefered to be used as A RULE before substituting..???

Another question..
When they ask for Loss in K.e..Do we give it as +ve loss or -ve(change) Do you get what I mean?? For ex: if they ask for change answer wod be -ve what if they ask for Loss we give as +ve right?? What abt the equation (rule( do we give it as 0.5m(u^2-v^2) or 0.5(v^2-u^2) then state its -ve because its loss??)
Plz answer me If you are sure  ;)
Thank You ..

Do you by any chance study from Mr Shariq in Jeddah
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Post by: SkyPilotage on May 18, 2011, 02:32:43 pm
Do you by any chance study from Mr Shariq in Jeddah
Mr. Shariq? Nope...
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Post by: mdwael on May 18, 2011, 06:41:06 pm
Anyone  :-X

Do you still want the answer?
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Post by: SkyPilotage on May 18, 2011, 06:43:27 pm
Do you still want the answer?
lol i doubt :D
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Post by: The Golden Girl =D on May 18, 2011, 07:26:12 pm
Do you still want the answer?

Thx but I've already done the exam :)
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Post by: username on May 19, 2011, 07:13:15 am
so we can discuss yet???
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Post by: elemis on May 19, 2011, 07:22:43 am
so we can discuss yet???

Yes, but not here.

Discuss here :

https://studentforums.biz/gce-as-a2-level-(cie-edexcel)/2011-mayjune-examination-discussion-here-!!!!/525/ (https://studentforums.biz/gce-as-a2-level-(cie-edexcel)/2011-mayjune-examination-discussion-here-!!!!/525/)
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Post by: aloha32 on May 24, 2011, 09:38:01 pm
Hi
Can anyone please explain why in June 2005 Qs 7 paper we take moments about F and not A?
and Nov 09 Q5 part one for circular motion..how is sin theta = 3/8

and sorry this one's REALLY confusing too..why isn't the speed 10m/s in Q5 Nov 2003 after rebounding at right angles? The mark scheme says "NOT 10m/s" and if you had correct method in 10m/s, there would be no marks eithers. So how did we get 10m/s?

Thank you!
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Post by: yasser37 on May 24, 2011, 10:38:02 pm
Hi

These are the doubts I have so far
please help  :)

November 09 , 51, Q4 (ii)
November 10 . 53 , Q4(ii)
November 09 , 52 ,Q1
June 10 , 53, Q(i) ---- A Drawing of angles taken would be greatly appreciated
June 09, 5, Q2 (i) Same as above and Q(6) (ii)

I hope that someone can help me before my exam
+rep for helper  :-*
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Post by: yasser37 on May 25, 2011, 07:51:52 am
anyone?  :(
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Post by: yasser37 on May 25, 2011, 01:55:22 pm
bump
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Post by: elemis on May 25, 2011, 01:56:38 pm
Hi

These are the doubts I have so far
please help  :)

November 09 , 51, Q4 (ii)
November 10 . 53 , Q4(ii)
November 09 , 52 ,Q1
June 10 , 53, Q(i) ---- A Drawing of angles taken would be greatly appreciated
June 09, 5, Q2 (i) Same as above and Q(6) (ii)

I hope that someone can help me before my exam
+rep for helper  :-*


I'll see what I can do.
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Post by: elemis on May 25, 2011, 02:07:25 pm
Winter 2009

Question 4

Let us say that at 0.3 seconds the object is travelling at an angle alpha to the horizontal, where tan alpha = 7/24 (as the question states).

We know the horizontal component of the velocity is 24 m/s.

If tan alpha = 7/24 ..... sin alpha = 7/25

Hence, at 0.3s the projectile has a vertical component of velocity of :

25 sin alpha i.e. 7m/s

Using v = u+at you should be able to find the initial VERTICAL component of velocity to be 10m/s.

Can you proceed by yourself now ?

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Post by: elemis on May 25, 2011, 02:25:31 pm
Winter 2010

Question 4

Take moments about B.

See if the diagram helps you.

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Post by: yasser37 on May 25, 2011, 03:01:24 pm
Thanks a lot mate
hope that you can finish what you started  ::)
+rep
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Post by: elemis on May 25, 2011, 03:47:32 pm
Thanks a lot mate
hope that you can finish what you started  ::)
+rep


November 09 , 52 ,Q1 <----- Not in my syllabus

June 10 , 53, Q(i) ---- A Drawing of angles taken would be greatly appreciated   What question ?

June 09, 5, Q2 (i) Same as above and Q(6) (ii)        There is no question 2 i from June 2009 and Question 6 ii is not in my syllabus.
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Post by: yasser37 on May 25, 2011, 04:30:18 pm

November 09 , 52 ,Q1 <----- Not in my syllabus

June 10 , 53, Q(i) ---- A Drawing of angles taken would be greatly appreciated   What question ?

June 09, 5, Q2 (i) Same as above and Q(6) (ii)        There is no question 2 i from June 2009 and Question 6 ii is not in my syllabus.


June 10 53 Question 4 part i
and I meant june 08 question 2 i

sorry for the mistake
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Post by: Sue T on June 03, 2011, 08:59:51 am
can any1 please link me to the june 2009 ms of M2 ??
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Post by: elemis on June 03, 2011, 09:04:00 am
can any1 please link me to the june 2009 ms of M2 ??

Edexcel ?
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Post by: elemis on June 03, 2011, 09:07:05 am
Here.
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Post by: Sue T on June 03, 2011, 10:08:43 am
Here.
thank you
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Post by: Sue T on June 05, 2011, 10:54:28 am
the last question in jan2010 - ques 8c - can any1 please explain?
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Post by: elemis on June 05, 2011, 11:29:13 am
The initial velocity line represents the tangent to the point at x=0.

At point Q the velocity is such that it is PERPENDICULAR to the initial velocity line.

You have to find this point Q or in other words:

Find the point alone the trajectory which has a gradient equal to the gradient of the normal (dotted red line) at point x=0.

Can you do it yourself now ?
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Post by: Sue T on June 05, 2011, 11:31:06 am
The initial velocity line represents the tangent to the point at x=0.

At point Q the velocity is such that it is PERPENDICULAR to the initial velocity line.

You have to find this point Q or in other words:

Find the point alone the trajectory which has a gradient equal to the gradient of the normal (dotted red line) at point x=0.

Can you do it yourself now ?
yesss, got it! - thank you
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Post by: elemis on June 05, 2011, 11:40:57 am
yesss, got it! - thank you

Glad to have helped.
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Post by: 3bood on June 09, 2011, 07:55:07 pm
jan 2011 question 6
june 2010 question 3b
jan 2010 question 7, question 8c
june 2008 question 6c
plzz guys answer ASAP, this is edexcel :)
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Post by: Darkstar3000 on June 11, 2011, 08:37:36 pm
Q 2) Two particles, P, of mass 2m, and Q, of mass m, are moving along the same straight line on a smooth horizontal plane. They are moving in opposite directions towards each other and collide. Immediately before the collision the speed of P is 2u and the speed of Q is u. The coefficient of restitution between the particles is e, where e<1. Find, in terms of u and e

(i) Speed of P after collision
(ii)Speed of Q after collision


See my situation has the balls colliding and rebounding in opposite directions but the mark scheme has them colliding and going in the same direction. How do I figure out which direction they will go in ? because I have the same answers but with different signs like my answer for (i) is u(e-1)** mark scheme has it as u(1-e). If I did this in the exam, will my answer be rejected ?

My answer for part B is correct because the direction that I chose for it is the correct one but A is wrong because of its direction

This is Jan 2010
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Post by: wakemeup on June 12, 2011, 09:36:15 am
Q 2) Two particles, P, of mass 2m, and Q, of mass m, are moving along the same straight line on a smooth horizontal plane. They are moving in opposite directions towards each other and collide. Immediately before the collision the speed of P is 2u and the speed of Q is u. The coefficient of restitution between the particles is e, where e<1. Find, in terms of u and e

(i) Speed of P after collision
(ii)Speed of Q after collision


See my situation has the balls colliding and rebounding in opposite directions but the mark scheme has them colliding and going in the same direction. How do I figure out which direction they will go in ? because I have the same answers but with different signs like my answer for (i) is u(e-1)** mark scheme has it as u(1-e). If I did this in the exam, will my answer be rejected ?

My answer for part B is correct because the direction that I chose for it is the correct one but A is wrong because of its direction

This is Jan 2010


Think about it intuitively. If one ball has a bigger mass and is moving at a faster speed than the smaller one, even though in the opposite direction, which direction will they go in? In the direction of the velocity of the ball with the bigger mass. So both will move in the same direction.
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Post by: Darkstar3000 on June 12, 2011, 09:59:27 am

Think about it intuitively. If one ball has a bigger mass and is moving at a faster speed than the smaller one, even though in the opposite direction, which direction will they go in? In the direction of the velocity of the ball with the bigger mass. So both will move in the same direction.

I can see how that would work but what if B had a larger mass ? Which direction would they go in ?
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Post by: wakemeup on June 12, 2011, 10:48:19 am
I can see how that would work but what if B had a larger mass ? Which direction would they go in ?


Then we can't know for sure. In that case you can either consider both the final velocities in the same or opposite directions. As long as you take care with the +ve and -ve signs you should be able to get the correct answer either way. If you don't know which directions the balls will go in, I recommend considering them both in the same direction as it will make your calculations less messy.

But usually, you will be able to guess the directions of the final velocities intuitively or the question itself will say whether they're going in the same or opposing directions.
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Post by: Darkstar3000 on June 12, 2011, 11:55:25 am

Then we can't know for sure. In that case you can either consider both the final velocities in the same or opposite directions. As long as you take care with the +ve and -ve signs you should be able to get the correct answer either way. If you don't know which directions the balls will go in, I recommend considering them both in the same direction as it will make your calculations less messy.

But usually, you will be able to guess the directions of the final velocities intuitively or the question itself will say whether they're going in the same or opposing directions.

Thank you for your help, I hope intuition works out :D
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Post by: curiousguy on September 12, 2011, 02:34:23 pm
Please help me with these 2 sums
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on September 13, 2011, 10:05:52 am
here
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Post by: curiousguy on September 25, 2011, 04:41:47 pm
PLs solve these from cambridge pastpaper
04/0/n/01 - 2(ii) and 4(i)
04/m/j/02- 5(ii)
04/m/j/03- 4

And can any one upload the solution bank book for m1 edexcel
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on September 26, 2011, 09:19:17 am
will have to do these tonight
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on September 26, 2011, 03:37:32 pm
those m1 questions answered
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Post by: The Golden Girl =D on September 26, 2011, 07:02:17 pm
Okay Here is what our lesson looks like :

Click HERE to view the Mentally corrupted Chapter =,= (http://www.pearsonschoolsandfecolleges.co.uk/Secondary/Mathematics/16+/EdexcelModularMathematicsforASandALevel/Resources/Mechanics2/Mechanics2_Chapter1_DRAFT.pdf)

I'm SO LOST in this subject even though I'm a Physics Student (this is my SECOND Week of School too T_T ). I guess the fact that Trignometry takes part is making me go ALL Crazy , this isn't Physics this is just A bunch of weird equations combined together => That's how I see it right now  :-X :-\ :'(

I need some good demonstrations or some videos or notes that explains this chapter in a Beautiful and easy way i.e. make it user friendly to seriously confused students.

I need it before the Weekend  :-[ , god Knows if my teacher will give us a Drop Quiz next week  ::)

Thanks in Advance =]
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on September 26, 2011, 09:47:13 pm
I have found a way to teach this which I use all the time now.
Have separate columns for suvat - a vertical suvat and a horizontal suvat.

vertically                           horizontally
s =y                                   s=x
u_y=u sin alpha                   u_x=u cos alpha
v                                        v=u cos alpha since there are no horizontal forces so horizontal s[peed is constant and a=0                   
a=-9.8                                 a=0
t                                         t is the same vertivcally and horizontally

Typically you find t by using suvat vertically then put into the suvat equations horizontally to find the range etc.
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Post by: The Golden Girl =D on September 27, 2011, 02:13:08 pm
Can you give me an Example or perhaps any random Question from the Practice/exercise  so that I FULLY understand what you meant =]
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on September 27, 2011, 02:22:00 pm
ok. Will try to do it in the next half hour.
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on September 27, 2011, 02:33:06 pm
Questions 3 and 4 from exercises 1A in the attachment.
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Post by: The Golden Girl =D on September 27, 2011, 03:08:30 pm
I got what you meant but I also have another Question now there is an Equation of Parabola that has tan x in it and stuff, I don't know how to use equations having tan x and anything related to Trigonometry. How do I approach such Questions ?

Thanks =]
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on September 27, 2011, 03:11:11 pm
You will be given x in the question. It is the angle the initial velocity makes with the horizontal. Put it into the equation along with any value of x to find values for y.
MAKE SURE YOUR CALCULATOR IS IN DEGREES MODE!
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Post by: The Golden Girl =D on September 27, 2011, 03:12:31 pm
Okay I'll do some Questions then ,Thanks Sir =]
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Post by: The Golden Girl =D on October 12, 2011, 05:30:42 pm
Q.5.  An airplane is flying horizontally at 400m/s. A package is released and travels a distance of 2000 m horizontally BEFORE hitting the ground. Model the package as a particle and hence find the Height of the airplane above the ground.

Didn't know how to solve the Whole thing =,=

Q.6. A ball is thrown at 14m/s at an angle of elevation of 60. a) Find it's horizontal and vertical distances from the point of projection after ONE second. b) Find the direction of motion of the ball.

I can't seem to get the right answer for part b)  :-\


Can someone answer it in details Please and I'd prefer it if you drew a Diagram , it'll make it easier for me to understand what you're doing =]
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on October 12, 2011, 10:20:09 pm
Here you go gg
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on October 16, 2011, 11:27:48 pm
Two acrobats, each of 64.0 kg, launch themselves together from a swing, holding hands. Their velocity at launch was 5.20 m/s and the angle of their initial velocity relative to the horizontal was 56.0 degrees upwards. At the top of their trajectory, their act calls for them to push against each in such a way that one of them becomes stationary in mid-air and then falls to the safety net while the other speeds away, to reach another swing at the same height at that of the swing they left. What should be the distance (in m) between the two swings?
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Post by: dk bose on October 25, 2011, 12:09:59 pm
i have got an impossible doubt which i have tried 4 abt a week but was unable 2 solve it.it is 4m heinemann modular mathematics for edexcel as and a-level M1 text book,page 58,Review exercise 1, Question number 16.
the question is as follows-
A particle P moved in a straight line with constant retardation. At the instants when P passed through the points A,B and C it was moving with speeds 10m/s,7m/s and 3m/s respectively.
Prove that AB/BC=51/40.
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on October 25, 2011, 12:29:40 pm
For last question above see attachment
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Post by: dk bose on October 25, 2011, 06:06:38 pm
i have got another doubt.the same textbook. Page no 147.Review exercise 2,question number 13.the question is as follows-
A block of mass 3 kg is pulled along a rough horizontal floor by a constant force of magnitude 20 N inclined at an angle 60 degrees to the upward vertical. The acceleration of the block has magnitude 2m/s.Calculate,to 2 dp the value of the coefficient of friction between the block and the floor.
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on October 25, 2011, 06:23:14 pm
When I get home in three hours, I will able to answer this with a diagram.
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on October 25, 2011, 08:57:51 pm
the block question answered
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Post by: dk bose on October 25, 2011, 09:10:26 pm
Thanx, but i have come up with one more doubt.its 4m the same textbook,page no 59.Review exercise 1,Question number 20.the question is as follows-
A particle starts at rest at O and moves along Ox.During the first 4s of its motion it accelerates uniformly to a speed of 12m/s.the particle continues at this speed for 10s.It then decelerates uniformly,coming to rest after a further T seconds.Given that the total distance travelled is 180m, calculate T.
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on October 25, 2011, 09:12:31 pm
One mo
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on October 25, 2011, 09:19:29 pm
the answer i got is 2 2/3 s Strange nu,ber/
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Post by: dk bose on October 26, 2011, 10:09:00 am
But you have to get the answer as T=6s,i saw it 4m the back of the textbook.Please try the sum one more time and give me the correct solution to this problem.hey anyone plzzzzzz try this impossible sum and give me the solution as fast as possible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! its urgent plzzzz!!!!!1111
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on October 26, 2011, 09:46:58 pm
It is 6/ For some stupid reason I said it travelled 140m 12m/s for 10 is actually 120
1/2*4*12+10*12+1/2*T*12=180
the answer is T=6
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Post by: dk bose on October 27, 2011, 12:53:48 pm
one more doubt 2 go.its 4m edexcel june 2006 paper question number 5.its as follows-
A steel girder AB has weight 210N.It is held in equilibrium in a horizontal position by two vertical cables.one cable is attached to the end A.The other cable is attached to the point C on the girder,AC=90cm.The girder is modelled as a uniform rod,and the cables as light inextensible strings.
Given that the tension in the cable at C is twice the tension in the cable at A,find (a) the tension in the cable at A, (b) show that AB = 120cm.
A small load of weight W newtons is attached to the girder at B. the load is modelled as a particle.The girder remains in equilibrium in a horizontal position.The tension in the cable at C is now three times the tension in the cable at A. (c) Find the value of W.
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Post by: dk bose on October 27, 2011, 05:11:33 pm
here is one more sum.its 4m the same textbook.page no 59.Review exercise 1.question no 21.the question is as follows - The diagram shows the speed time graph for the motion of a car which is moving with constant acceleration in a straight line.The car passes a point A with speed um/s and 10s later,it passes a point B with speed 30m/s.(a) State,in terms of u,the speed of the car at the end of the first 5s.During the first 5s the car travels 127.5m.(b) Calculate the value of u. (c) Find,in m s-2,the magnitude of the acceleration of the car.
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on October 27, 2011, 06:08:15 pm
When I get home.
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on October 27, 2011, 11:24:33 pm
Here it is
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Post by: dk bose on October 28, 2011, 12:44:14 pm
here i have got another sum.its 4m the sanme txtbuk.page no 147.question no 15 .the question is as follows-
Two particles A and B of mass 8kg and 10 kg respectively,are connected by a light inextensible string which passes over a light smooth pulley P.Particle B rests on a smooth horizontal table and particle A rests on a smooth plane inclined at 300 to the horizontal with the string taut and perpendicular to the line of intersection of the table and the plane as shown in the attachment.
(a) Find the magnitude of the acceleration of particle B.
(b) Find, in newtons,the tension in the string.
(c) Find the distance covered by B in the first two seconds of motion,given B does not reach the pulley.
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on October 28, 2011, 03:04:08 pm
One mo
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on October 28, 2011, 03:06:22 pm
here
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Post by: dk bose on October 29, 2011, 10:09:52 am
one more doubt.its 4m the same textbook.page no 60.q no 22.the question is as follows-
A train starts from rest at a station,accelerates uniformly to its maximum speed 15m/s,travels at this speed for a time,and then decelerates uniformly to rest at the next station.the distance from station to station is 1260m,and the time spent is three-quarters of the total journey time.
(a)iilustrate this information on a velocity time graph.
(b) By using this graph,or otherwise find the total journey time.
(c) Given also that the magnitude of the deceleration is twice the magnitude of the acceleration find in m s-2,the magnitude of the acceleration.
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Post by: dk bose on October 29, 2011, 10:16:43 am
one more doubt-.
A particle A is constructed to move in a straight line. it starts from rest at X and accelerates at 2m s-2 until it reaches speed V.it then travels with constant speed V for 60s before decelerating at 1 ms-2 to come to rest at Y.The total time for the motion is 105s.Find the distance XY.
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Post by: dk bose on October 29, 2011, 05:29:32 pm
can anyone plzzzzzz solve my sums and give me the solution as fast as possible????? itzzzzzzzzzzz urgent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on October 29, 2011, 06:57:29 pm
here.
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Post by: dk bose on October 29, 2011, 08:52:35 pm
hey i have given two sums!!!! the first one is at the end of page 29 of this topic!!!!try to solve and give me the solutions as fast as possible.!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on October 30, 2011, 07:47:32 am
The train question
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Post by: curiousguy on October 31, 2011, 09:02:42 am
9709/41/O/N/09  Q.6 (iii)  and 9709/42/O/N/09 Q.6 ( ii & iii) Please could any one explain these to me.
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on October 31, 2011, 03:49:03 pm
tonight
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Post by: dk bose on October 31, 2011, 10:00:09 pm
one more sum.the question is as follows-
A particle starting from rest at time t=0 moves is a straight line and accelerates in the following way:
a=3 when 0<t<20
a=1 when 20<t<50
a=-2 when 50<t<95

where a is the acceleration in m s-2 and t is in seconds.Find the speed of the particle when t=20,t=50 and t=95.Sketch a time-speed graph for the particle int the interval 0<t<95.Find the total distance travelled bt the particle in this interval.
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on October 31, 2011, 10:18:06 pm
the m1 09 questions
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Post by: dk bose on October 31, 2011, 10:34:21 pm
one more doubt. the question is as follows.-
Two particles A and B, of masses 0.4kg and 0.3kg respectively.,are connected by a light inextensible string which passes over a smooth light fixed pulley.The particles are released from rest with the string taut and the hanging parts vertical.Calculate-
(a) the acceleration of A.
(b) the tension in the string.
The particles continue to move in this system until the instant when they have each acquired speed 3.5m/s.At this instant both A and B are 1.4m above horizontal ground and the string is cut.Give that each particle now moves freely under gravity find the difference in the times,measured from the instant when the string is cut,for A and B to reach the ground.   
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Post by: dk bose on October 31, 2011, 10:39:07 pm
one more sum to go.the question is as follows-
A particle moves down a line of greatest slope of a rough plane which is inclined at 30 degress to the horizontal.The particle starts from rest and covers 3.5m in time 2s.Find the coefficient of friction between the particle and the plane.

anyone plzzzzzzzz !!!!!Try to solve my these threee doubts and post me the solutions as fast as possible!!!!!!!!!!!! itzzzzzzzzzz urgent !!!!!!!!!! 
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on October 31, 2011, 11:17:31 pm
morning
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on November 01, 2011, 06:26:10 am
here
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Post by: dk bose on November 01, 2011, 08:49:28 am
where is the answer for my first question????these are just the answers for two questions??plzzz solve my first question and give the solutions as fast as possible!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on November 01, 2011, 11:06:44 am
Keep your dress on dovey. On it now.
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on November 01, 2011, 11:51:46 am
The particle question
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Post by: dk bose on November 02, 2011, 09:04:35 am
one more doubt.the question is as follows-
Two joggers,A and B, are running with constant velocity on level parkland. At a certain instant, A and B have position vectors (-60i+210j)m and (30i-60j)m respectively,referred to a fixed origin O.Ninety seconds later,A and B meet at the point with position vector (210i+120j)m.
(a) Find,as a vector in terms of i and j the velocity of A relative to B.
(b) Verify that the magnitude of the velocity of A relative to B is equal to the speed of A.
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Post by: dk bose on November 02, 2011, 09:17:41 am
one more doubt.the question is as follows-
A particle,P,of mass 0.3kg,is moving in a straight line on a rough horizontal floor.The speed of P decreases from 7.5m s-1 to 4 m s-1 in time T seconds.Given that the coefficient of friction between P and the floor is 1/7(one divided by 7) find:
(a) the magnitude of the frictional force opposing the motion of P.
(b) The value of T.

try to solve these two sums as give me the solutions as fast as possible!!!!!!! itzzzz urgent!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on November 02, 2011, 03:35:07 pm
answered
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Post by: dk bose on November 02, 2011, 08:23:38 pm
one more doubt.the question is as follows-
(a)A ball of mass 0.3kg is released from a point at a height of 10m above horizontal ground.After hitting the ground the ball rebounds to a height of 2.5m.calculate,in N s, the magnitude of the impulse of the force exerted by the ground during the impact.
(b) State two assumptions you have made about the ball and the forces acting on it in order to solve part(a).
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on November 03, 2011, 08:50:22 pm
here. I didn't notice this until a few mins ago
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Post by: dk bose on November 05, 2011, 06:57:17 am
A train stops at two stations 7.5km apart.Between the stations it takes 75s to accelerate uniformly to a speed of 24m s-1,then travels at this speed for a time T seconds before decelerating uniformly for the final 0.6km.
(a)Sketch a speed-time graph for this journey.Hence,or otherwise,find
(b) the deceleration in m s-2 of the train during the final 0.6km,
(c) the value of T,
(d) the total time for the journey.
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Post by: dk bose on November 05, 2011, 07:03:59 am
A particle moves with constant acceleration along the straight line OLM and passes through the points O,L and M at times 0s,4s and 10s respectively.Given that OL=14m and OM=50m,find
(a) the acceleration of the particle.
(b) the speed of the particle.

anyone plzz solve these two sums and give me the solutions as fast as possible!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on November 05, 2011, 10:38:24 am
Later
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on November 06, 2011, 07:56:45 am
those two questions above.
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Post by: dk bose on November 06, 2011, 10:40:51 pm
1)A pile driver of mass 350kg drives vertically a pile of mass 630kg into horizontal ground.the pile driver strikes the pile directly with a speed 7m/s and does not rebound,so that the pile driver and the pile move as one body into the ground.the pile driver and the pile penetrate 0.5m into the ground.Assuming that the force exerted by the ground on the pile and the pile driver during the motion is constant.
(a)calculate in N to 2sf the value of this constant force. 

2)A straight uniform rigid beam AB,of length 6 m and mass 15 kg, is supported at A and B and rests horizontally.A load of mass 60kg is placed on the beam at the point C.Given that the magnitude of the force exerted on the support at A is twice the magnitude of the force exerted on the support at B,find the distance AC.

plzz anyone solve these two sums and post the solutions as fast as possible!!!!!!!
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on November 07, 2011, 07:03:10 am
Later
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on November 07, 2011, 11:15:58 pm
Questions 1 and 2 answered in attachment
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Post by: dk bose on November 08, 2011, 10:19:20 pm
1) A force acts on a particle,where R=(7i+16j)N.the force R is the resultant of two forces P and Q.the line of action of P is parallel to the vector (i+4j) and the line of action of Q is parallel to the vector (i+j).
Determine the forces P and Q expressing each in terms of i and j.

2)At 11:00 hours the position vector of an aircraft relative to an airport O is (200i+30j)km,i and j being unit vectors due east and due north respectively.The velocity of the aircraft is (180i-120j)km/h.find:
(a) how far it is from O at 12:00.

3) this question is quite huge so i cant write it here.it is from heinemann modular mechanics  unit 1 textbook.page no 57.review exercise 1.question no 7,part (f).

Solve all these 3 questions and give the solutions as fast as possible!!!!!
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on November 09, 2011, 08:17:11 am
For q3 I don't have the textbook. Can you scan it?
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Post by: Becca on November 09, 2011, 09:15:28 am
Okay, I have solved the first two questions. I'm doing CIE A levels, so I don't have the book for the last question... and I couldn't find that particular page on the Internet. Drat it. Hope you understand my solutions! :)

First Question:

P is parallel to (i+4j), so P= x(i+4j)
Q is parallel to (i+j), so Q= y(i+j)

x & y are to be calulated, as follows:
since R is the resultant of P and Q, R = P+Q

therefore,
R = P+Q
(7i+16j) = x(i+4j) + y(i+j)
(7i+16j) = (xi + 4xj) + (yi +yj)
(7i+16j) = [(x+y)i + (4x+y)j]

Hence, based on the above equation, you can say that:
x+y = 7
y=7-x     >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eqn 1

and,
4x+y = 16
y= 16-4x    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>eqn 2

Sub eqn 1 into eqn 2:
7-x=16-4x
3x=9
x=3

Sub x=3 into eqn 1
y=7-3
y=4

Therefore, P=x(i+4j)
                P= 3(i+4j)
                P=3i + 12j

and Q=y(i+j)
      Q=4(i+j)
       Q=4i+4j


Second Question:

1 hour passes from 11.00 to 12.00, so the plane moves through a vector of (180i-120j) within this time. The initial vector is (200i+30j).
Therefore, the final vector is:

(200i+30j) + (180i-120j) = (380i-90j)

However, since the question is asking for the distance of the aeroplane from the airport, we must find the magnitude of the above vector via Pythagoras' theorem:

?[380^2+ (-90)^2] = 390.5 km  

^For some reason, I couldn't insert the square root sign; it became a '?' instead.
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Post by: Becca on November 09, 2011, 09:32:06 am
Oh no, I'm sorry, Mr Astarmathsandphysics! When I started writing the reply, you had not replied yet! Sorry again, I didn't notice that you had replied already before I posted mine...
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on November 09, 2011, 02:18:01 pm
Is ok. If you had posted first I might have posted anyway.
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Post by: dk bose on November 11, 2011, 11:56:40 pm
1)A body of mass 5kg is held in equilibrium under gravity by two inextensible light ropes.One rope is horizontal,the other is at an angle teetha to the horizontal,as shown in the attachment.The tension in the rope inclined at teetha to the horizontal is 72 N.
(a) the tension T in the horizontal rope giving ur ans to the nearest N.

2)A small sphere R,of mass 0.08kg,moving with speed 1.5m/s,collides directly with another small sphere S,of mass 0.12kg,moving in the same direction with speed 1m/s. Immediately after the collision R and S continue to move in the same direction with speeds U m/s and V m/s respectively.
Given that U:V=21:26,
(a) show that V = 1.3,
(b) find the magnitude of the impulse, in Ns, received by R as a result of the collision.
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Post by: iluvme on November 12, 2011, 02:39:15 pm
1)A body of mass 5kg is held in equilibrium under gravity by two inextensible light ropes.One rope is horizontal,the other is at an angle teetha to the horizontal,as shown in the attachment.The tension in the rope inclined at teetha to the horizontal is 72 N.
(a) the tension T in the horizontal rope giving ur ans to the nearest N.

2)A small sphere R,of mass 0.08kg,moving with speed 1.5m/s,collides directly with another small sphere S,of mass 0.12kg,moving in the same direction with speed 1m/s. Immediately after the collision R and S continue to move in the same direction with speeds U m/s and V m/s respectively.
Given that U:V=21:26,
(a) show that V = 1.3,
(b) find the magnitude of the impulse, in Ns, received by R as a result of the collision.

Its been a long time since I did my M1, I did the first question for you, as for the second, :X
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on November 12, 2011, 09:35:59 pm
my answer to two questions above
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Post by: dk bose on November 13, 2011, 07:00:47 am
my doubts,the circled ones.!!!
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on November 13, 2011, 09:48:19 pm
No can do now. Nov exams tomorrow and I have a 24 day ahead. Will do Tues morn
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Post by: dk bose on November 15, 2011, 04:39:29 pm
Could anyone plzzz solve all my doubts and post it here as fast as possible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!itzzzzzzzz urgent!!!!!!!!!!1
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on November 15, 2011, 04:54:42 pm
I have to print them cos I cant display them clearly on screen. Will do them when I come back home in few hours.
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on November 15, 2011, 09:30:59 pm
the beam question and helicopter question
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on November 15, 2011, 09:33:43 pm
https://studentforums.biz/math-146/m1-doubts-here!!!!/570/
The particle question answered on last page
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Post by: dk bose on November 16, 2011, 05:38:54 am
but question no 42 from doubt2 and question no 44 from doubt3 is not done yet!!!!plzz solve them and give me the solutions as fast as possible!!!!!! 
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on November 16, 2011, 08:30:45 am
Think you posted two questions twice. Post the questions again that are not answered.
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Post by: dk bose on November 16, 2011, 05:06:33 pm
No, i have posted only doubt1 and 2 twice,my doubts are in the doubt 2 and 3!!!! plzz,check them by going to the last page!!!!!!! or again download doubt 2 and doubt 3 files.the questions are number 42 from doubt 2 and number 44 from doubt 3 .
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Post by: dk bose on November 17, 2011, 08:05:45 am
i have uploaded my doubts again.they are question no 42 from doubt2 and question no 44 from doubt3 file.plzz solve them and post the solutions as fast as possible!!!!!!!
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on November 17, 2011, 08:59:03 am
q 42 and 44
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Post by: dk bose on November 20, 2011, 08:52:58 am
here are my some other doubts,the circled questions!!!!!
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Post by: Malak on November 20, 2011, 03:01:59 pm
^ May I ask?
You are not making us or people who helped you do your homework, right?
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Post by: dk bose on November 20, 2011, 09:23:18 pm
hello.i dont go to school,so i have to self study for which i dont have a tuition teacher so i ask all my doubts here for help.!!! now ok??
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on November 20, 2011, 10:48:20 pm
I don't go to school either.
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Post by: dk bose on November 21, 2011, 10:00:01 am
Thanks anyway,but if u dont mind here are some more of my doubts,the circled questions!!!!!
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Post by: dk bose on November 21, 2011, 10:29:29 am
hey SZM,relax ok, calm down,i believe in studying together works alot, but i cant always be online.i was busy doing my thing.i am gonna give 8 units including edexcel AS and A2 units,maths,phy,chem in jan 2012.i  m from bangladesh. and i m muslim!!!!fine????
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Post by: dk bose on November 21, 2011, 11:32:14 am
Mr astarmathsandphysics, the solution to the particle on slope question is wrong because the answers donot match with the book's answers.PLZZZ try the sum one more time and post the solutions again!!! the answers aRE-(a) 7.84m s-2,(b)5.6m s-1,(c)7m s-1,check them against ur soultions,plzzz!!!
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on November 21, 2011, 02:24:10 pm
The answer to which question?
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Post by: dk bose on November 22, 2011, 10:16:39 am
the answer to question no 6 on scan0007 file!!!!ok i m uploading the file again.
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Post by: Arthur Bon Zavi on November 22, 2011, 10:18:01 am
@ D. K. Bose - did you see Delhi Belly ? ::)
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on November 22, 2011, 11:26:49 am
I see my mistake. I Labelled it 'SHOULD BE +'
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Post by: Malak on November 22, 2011, 11:56:27 am
hello.i dont go to school,so i have to self study for which i dont have a tuition teacher so i ask all my doubts here for help.!!! now ok??
Well, there is nothing to be mad about. I just had to make sure.
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Post by: dk bose on November 23, 2011, 10:55:43 am
@ D. K. Bose - did you see Delhi Belly ? ::)

@Arthur Bon Zavi - yup,obviously.didnt you like it??
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Post by: dk bose on November 23, 2011, 11:12:47 am
Thanks anyway,but if u dont mind here are some more of my doubts,the circled questions!!!!!

Mr astarmathsandphysics, can u solve my this doubt at the end of page 40,my new doubts???.its in scan0008 file!!!
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on November 23, 2011, 09:48:15 pm
I will do it in bed first thing in morning
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on November 24, 2011, 09:19:30 am
the answers to the two questions at the bottom of p40
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Post by: donhassan on November 29, 2011, 07:35:56 pm
any question?
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Post by: Arthur Bon Zavi on December 03, 2011, 09:39:43 am
@Arthur Bon Zavi - yup,obviously.didnt you like it??

Yes, I did.
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Post by: dk bose on December 13, 2011, 02:03:22 pm
the circled sum is my doubt.plzz someone solve it and post the solutions as fast as possible!!!!!
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on December 13, 2011, 03:45:15 pm
here
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Post by: The Golden Girl =D on December 13, 2011, 04:04:54 pm
Edexcel M2  ,Q 2 in the Practice Paper.


Why did we include both GPE and KE ?

My answer is 18 m/s which is WRONG . the right answer is 8.7 m/s  :-\ :-X
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on December 13, 2011, 09:24:53 pm
which practice paper? Post it.
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Post by: The Golden Girl =D on December 13, 2011, 09:26:49 pm
I got it Sir, Thanks though =]
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Post by: dk bose on December 21, 2011, 02:31:01 pm
here

Mr astarmathsandphysics,the (c) part is wrong in this question.its answer should 90m,so plzz try the sum again.
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on December 21, 2011, 09:32:31 pm
Can't see how.
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Post by: dk bose on December 21, 2011, 11:07:19 pm
Keep trying!!!!
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on December 22, 2011, 01:29:49 pm
Tailing off.
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Post by: dk bose on December 27, 2011, 08:32:30 am
what do you mean "tailing off"???,huh!!!!!!
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on December 28, 2011, 09:46:50 am
I mean I think the question is wrong and the more you ask me to answer it the less inclined I feel
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Post by: ASdude on January 03, 2012, 08:23:44 pm
Hey folks!! I got stuck in vectors.. I really need your help.

I am using Edexcel AS and A level Modular Mathematics M1: Unit 6 Vectors  page 137-138 Example number 5:

I understood most of it: but the last part, I don't know how did they use the big expression to form 2 simultaneous equations. Please can you type in the detailed steps.

Please Reply ASAP.
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on January 04, 2012, 08:50:13 am
I don't have the textbook. Can you post the question? Maybe scan it.
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Post by: ASdude on January 04, 2012, 07:06:57 pm
I don't have the textbook. Can you post the question? Maybe scan it.

Please see the post above. I just uploaded the question. PLEASE REPLY ASAP!!
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on January 04, 2012, 10:48:42 pm
It really is just a question of getting from O to P via two different roots. I have never seen this in M1. I will make a page on vector question like this for my website.
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Post by: -Cornea on February 11, 2012, 07:59:50 pm
hey everybody i need help in this question i got stuck in part 2 if anyone can help me in doing it i'll be grateful =D
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on February 12, 2012, 10:59:50 pm
Here
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Post by: -Cornea on February 14, 2012, 11:03:16 am
^Thanks =D
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Post by: Malak on February 16, 2012, 12:23:40 pm
Anyone?

The most I need is the free body diagram 'cause that is where I think I am messing up ::)

The answer for both parts is 9.8N
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on February 19, 2012, 12:40:21 pm
Cant find any mistake in my working but doesnt seem right. Let me know.
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Post by: WARRIOR on February 22, 2012, 05:54:59 pm
M2 (edexcel book )

EXERCISE 1 A , Q 14 . I got a) but i dont know how to get b :(
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on February 23, 2012, 09:47:47 am
Don't have the book.
Post the question.
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Post by: LekhB on February 26, 2012, 01:04:45 pm
A particle,P,of mass 0.3kg,is moving in a straight line on a rough horizontal floor.The speed of P decreases from 7.5m s-1 to 4 m s-1 in time T seconds.Given that the coefficient of friction between P and the floor is 1/7(one divided by 7) find:
(a) the magnitude of the frictional force opposing the motion of P.
(b) The value of T.


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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on February 26, 2012, 01:19:54 pm
see attachment
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Post by: LekhB on February 26, 2012, 02:56:48 pm
Thank you!

I had some problems with this one too.

A box of mass 4.5 kg is pulled at a constant speed of 2 m/s alone a rough horizontal floor by a horizontal force of magnitude 15 N.
(i) Find the coefficient of friction between the box and the floor.


The horizontal pulling force is now removed. find
(ii) the deceleration of the bx in the subsequent motion
(iii) the distance travelled by the box rom the instant the horizontal force is removed until the box comes to rest.

And this one too:






A particle of mass 0.5 kg is placed on a rough plane inclined at an angle ? to the horizontal where sin ?= 4/5. Initially, the particle is at rest under the action of a force P N applied in a upward direction parallel to the plan. Given that the coefficient of friction between the particle and the plan is 2/5, calculate the value of P when

(i) the particle is about to move up the plane,
(ii) the particle is about to move down the plan.

If the force P is now removed, calculate the acceleration of the particle down the plane.
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Post by: sweetsh on February 26, 2012, 05:22:07 pm
Thank you!

I had some problems with this one too.

A box of mass 4.5 kg is pulled at a constant speed of 2 m/s alone a rough horizontal floor by a horizontal force of magnitude 15 N.
(i) Find the coefficient of friction between the box and the floor.


The horizontal pulling force is now removed. find
(ii) the deceleration of the bx in the subsequent motion
(iii) the distance travelled by the box rom the instant the horizontal force is removed until the box comes to rest.

And this one too:






A particle of mass 0.5 kg is placed on a rough plane inclined at an angle ? to the horizontal where sin ?= 4/5. Initially, the particle is at rest under the action of a force P N applied in a upward direction parallel to the plan. Given that the coefficient of friction between the particle and the plan is 2/5, calculate the value of P when

(i) the particle is about to move up the plane,
(ii) the particle is about to move down the plan.

If the force P is now removed, calculate the acceleration of the particle down the plane.


Hello,
I apologize I won't be able to answer your question i'm on my mobile now but a very good hint is in every question like that, draw the plane inclined with the particular object as a "block" or a "circle" and then put arrows for each force acting on it(i.e gravity, friction, N, .... )
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on February 26, 2012, 05:46:42 pm
Yes draw a diagram. See attachment.
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Post by: WARRIOR on March 01, 2012, 07:26:26 pm
A particle P moves along the x-axis . At t seconds (where t =>0 ) the velocity of P is
[3t(sq) -12t + 5 ] m/s
When t=0 , P is at ORIGIN O. Find

a) The velocity of p when its acceleration is zero
b)the values of t when p is again at O
c) The distance travelled by p in the interval 3=<t=<4

i got a and b but i dont get c at all.
I understand by getting the maximu displacement , when V = 0 , i get 13.12... . And at t = 3 displacement is -12 , and at t= 4 displacement is -12 again !  So displacement must be
 (13.12-12)X2 ?? explain please the right answer is 48
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on March 01, 2012, 07:55:18 pm
Am looking at this now
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on March 01, 2012, 08:00:29 pm
I got 1.926 and I cant post my working until my scanner recovers from the thumping I gave it
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Post by: WARRIOR on March 01, 2012, 08:26:39 pm
I got 1.926 and I cant post my working until my scanner recovers from the thumping I gave it
This is from the M2 Edexcel book . Page  18  ,Exercise 1B question 10 ! 

The answer at the back
a)7
b)1,5
c)48m

Thanks anyway !
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on March 01, 2012, 08:36:09 pm
I didn't get a  b or c
Check you have the correct page
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Post by: WARRIOR on March 02, 2012, 10:06:15 am
At time t seconds , the force F newtons acting on particle P, of mass 0.5 KG , is given by
F= ( 3t ) i  + (4t-5)j .

When t=1 , the velocity of P is 12 i m/s
Find velocity of P after t seconds
The angle the direction of motion of p makes with i when t=5 .


also i woudl like to know , when the question says for example
Find t when v is paraller to i . This means j = 0
but when he says i+j or i-j , what does this mean?
 Gradient = 1 and gradient = -1
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on March 02, 2012, 10:21:24 am
Didn't read the question properly.
I did for i+j at bottom of page.
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Post by: WARRIOR on March 02, 2012, 10:38:51 am
Didn't read the question properly.
I did for i+j at bottom of page.

Your answers are right sir ! but how is 12i=3i-6j + c => c= -3i+6j ?????
isnt is supposed to be 9i+6j?
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on March 02, 2012, 10:48:47 am
Now I get 9i+18j after checking
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Post by: WARRIOR on March 02, 2012, 10:55:03 am
Now I get 9i+18j after checking

I got the same at first , but i checked the answer at the back it was exactly like this

( 3t(sq) + 9) i  + ( 4t(cubed) -10t + 6 ) j

Very weird book !!!!

anyway thanks a million for your answers and explanations !  + rep!
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on March 02, 2012, 10:59:49 am
BOOK is correct!!!
When I did it the first time I ignored the 12i
and the second time I got 12i+6j=18j
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Post by: WARRIOR on March 02, 2012, 11:26:05 am
BOOK is correct!!!
When I did it the first time I ignored the 12i
and the second time I got 12i+6j=18j

HOW :o im so slow , i still dont understand how 12i= 3i + ( 4 -10 ) j could be 12i+6j=18j
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on March 02, 2012, 11:32:16 am
i and j are not like terms so 12i+6j is not equal to 18j
Shall I make a video the this?
theeducationchannel.info
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Post by: WARRIOR on March 02, 2012, 03:54:10 pm
At time t seconds , a particle P has position vector r with respect to a fixed origin O , where
  r= [  (3t(sq) - 4) i +  ( 8 - 4t(sq) ) j ]

a Show that the acceleration of P is a constant .
b Find the magnitude  of the acceleration of P and the size of the angle which the acceleration makes with j .

 I get magnitude of acceleration = 10

But size of angle is 143.1  HOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on March 02, 2012, 08:57:20 pm
Differentiate twice get a=6i-8j
This is at an angle tan^(-1) (8/6)=53.13 below the x axis (plot (6,-8))
add 90 cos it is the angle with the j axis
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Post by: LekhB on March 03, 2012, 07:52:21 pm
Thanks for the previous answers. Now, I got stuck with 3 different questions while I was doing my homework.


1/. A car is moving along a straight road with uniform acceleration. The car passes a check-point A with a speed of 12 m/s and another check-point C with a speed of 32 m/s. The distance between A and C is 1100m.
(i) Find the time, in s, taken by the car to move from A to C.
(ii) Given that B is the mid-point of AC, find in m/s to 1 decimal place, the speed with which the car passes B.


2. A, B and C are 3 points on a straight line, in that order, and the distance AB and AC are 45m and 77m respectively. A particle moves along the straight line with constant acceleration 2 m/s². Given that it taked 5 seconds to travel from A to B, find the time taken to travel from A to C.

3. An aircraft accelerates along the runway with constant acceleration a m/s². 3 points on the runway are A, B, C, where the distances AB and AC are each 120m. The speed of the aircraft as it passes A is u m/s. The aircraft takes 6s to cover the distance AB and 4s to cover the distance BC. Find the values of a and u.


It would be awesome if anyone could help. Cheers.
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on March 03, 2012, 09:37:03 pm
Have done these question but need to get scanner working
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on March 04, 2012, 08:10:05 am
Those 3 suvat questions
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Post by: LekhB on March 04, 2012, 08:02:07 pm
Thank you a lot!

Attached 3 more questions. The connecting particles chapter is really getting on my nerves.

(http://i.imgur.com/Hrbxz.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/6SLXd.jpg)
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on March 04, 2012, 09:42:30 pm
In the last suvat question I got a sign wrong at the end so the answer is wrong but the method is correct.
I made a video.
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on March 04, 2012, 09:45:56 pm
For the connecting particle questions I will make some videos tomorrow
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on March 05, 2012, 10:31:03 am
thrid question
resolving for 2kg mass
T-2g=2a
Resolving for 5 kg mass
5g-T=5a
add these
g=5a so a=g/5
sub into T-2g=2a
T=2g+2*g/5 so T=12g/5
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on March 05, 2012, 10:53:07 am
q3
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Post by: LekhB on March 10, 2012, 04:50:37 pm
Thanks a lot.

From a point 120m above ground level, a stone is projected vertically upwards with a speed u m/s. if the stone rises to a height of 5m above the point of projection, calculate(using g= 10 m/s²)
(i)  the value of u,
(ii) the time the stone takes from projection until it reaches the ground level,
(iii) the speed of the stone at ground level.



A particle is projected vertically upwards from ground level. Between 2 seconds and 3 seconds after leaving the ground, it rises 45 m. Calculate (using g=10 m/s²)
(i) the speed of projection
(ii) the maximum height reached
(iii) the time interval for which the particle is above a level of 165m.
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Post by: LekhB on March 10, 2012, 05:09:58 pm
I hate not getting the same answers as written in my homework book but I don't find anything wrong with my calculations.

A particle is projected vertically upwards from the ground with a speed of 36 m/s. Calculate (using g= 10 m/s²)
(i) the time for which it is above a height of 63m

What I tried :

S: 63m
u: 36 m/s
v: ? m/s
a: 10 m/s²
t: ? s

S= ut + 0.5(at²)

63 = 36(t) + 0.5(10)(t²)

-> 5t² + 36t - 63 = 0

t = [(-36) + (36² - 4(5)(-63)^0.5]/10 or [(-36) - (36² - 4(5)(-63)^0.5]/10

t= 1.46 s.

The answer is t= 1.2s.

And I need t for doing the other parts which are;

(ii) the speed which it has at this height on its way down
(iii) the total time of flight.
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Post by: LekhB on March 10, 2012, 06:03:37 pm
Two more


From the foot of a vertical cliff 28.8 high, a stone was projected vertically upwards so as just to reach the top. Find its velocity of projection.
One second after the first stone was projected, another stone was allowed to fall from rest from the top of the cliff. The stones passed one another after a further t seconds at a height h m above the ground. Calculate the value of t and h.

Answers : 24 m/s(I got 13.78), 0.7, 26.4

I used to get all of these numbers right in physics. Don't know what happened here...

Another one(in which I got the first answer though):


A particle X is projected vertically upwards from the ground with a velocity of 80 m/s. Calculate the maximum height reached by X. -> I could do this part

The other part: A particle Y is held at a height of 300m above the ground. At the moment when X has droped 80m from its max height, Y is projected downwards with a velocity of v m/s. The particles reach the ground at the same time. Calculate the value of v.

I got v= 103.4
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on March 10, 2012, 09:35:07 pm
Except for the last post, here are my answers.
If I used 9.8 for g forgive me
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Post by: LekhB on March 11, 2012, 08:50:31 pm
Some more ;) This time on connecting particles.

(http://i.imgur.com/cc7ot.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/nE9k6.jpg)
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on March 12, 2012, 08:01:44 pm
those two particle questions from a couple of days ago that I missed out
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on March 12, 2012, 08:26:51 pm
the first of those particle on pulley questions
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on March 12, 2012, 08:50:41 pm
the second particle on slope question attached
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Post by: a.k. on March 25, 2012, 06:40:09 pm
i was hopeing someone could help me with this question i have to do for homework, which is from a text book, so i do have the answer, but it is difficult.
Question - Particle A of mass 1kg is at rest 0.2m from the edge of a smooth horizontal 0.8m high table. It is connected by a light inextensible string of length 0.7m to a partcle B of mass 0.5kg. Partcle B is intially at rest at the edge of the table closest to A but then falls off. Assuming B's initial horizontal velocity to be zero find the speed with which A begins to move?

thank you
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on March 26, 2012, 07:36:04 am
ak see attachment
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Post by: fawazomar on April 21, 2012, 06:23:25 am
Hey! I have no idea how the Example 5 Chapter 2 in the M2 Textbook work.
"A light rectangular plate ABCD has AB=20cm and AD=50cm. Particles of mass 2kg, 3kg, 5kg and 5kg are attached to the plate at the points A,B,C,D respectively. Find the distance of the centre of mass of the loaded plane from:
a. AD
b. AB"
Can anyone explain to me how they find the distance??? I know how to find the centre of mass but it stops there.

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Post by: aaakhtar19 on May 03, 2012, 07:10:29 am
assalam.u.alaikum
can any0ne help me solving this questi0n
CIE Board :
paper 04 mechanics
0ctober n0vember 2003
q6
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 06, 2012, 09:37:22 am
here
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Post by: YU-GI-OH! on May 12, 2012, 10:55:26 pm
May someone please tell me how to do part c of question 7 (Jan 2009)

Thanks in advance :)
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Post by: xainer on May 04, 2013, 06:01:44 pm
 Hi! Can u help me solve this question....it's jan 2008 Question number 7 part c....It would be very nice if all the steps and the way how u arrived at the answer was mentioned :) thank you!!
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on October 09, 2013, 12:27:32 pm
just testing
x^2