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Teachers and Students => Debates => Topic started by: Alpha on January 23, 2010, 07:05:28 am
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Leaving aside religious views, I expect an honest and sincere answer, preferably from personal experience.To note: I have asked, why MUST we live, not why DO we live.
Why do you think we must live?
I asked this question in Yahoo Answers and Speaking24. Let’s see where we get the best answers!
P.S. It's not a debate, just asking for your views. And am not asking anyone to die either. :P
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well as a human, i always feel curious about pretty much everything that i do not know of
if i die, what will i be missing? is it good things? i dont want to miss it! is it bad things? how bad is it, lemme get a taste of it!
whether you believe in afterlife or you don't, at the end of the die we all agree that after we die, we will be in a permanent stage, be it eternal death or eternal life, so life is just a short thing, we just want to get the maximum taste out of it
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I believe there's a purpose for anything exsisting in life!! Regarding your question...why must we live, since anyway we are going to die?!
There are plenty of things out in this life we should experience...whether it's sweet or bitter...these things what makes our living a worth while journey! Living gives you this opportunity after your death to compare both worlds..which one is better than the other and this i guess depends on what u have done to this world...I always do my best to enjoy as much as i can in this life..so if i leave it i have no regrets for missing anything in it ;)
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We are all just a ripple in nothing.
Make as much of nothing as you can
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I am living in order to fulfill a certain purpose of mine - Money, Power, Fame and Popularity! This is why I MUST live.
Everybody has a purpose whether they realize it or not. And everything that has a beginning has an end.
* I am not being philosophical here! :D Just the truth! ;D *
Cheers!
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Why do you play a game?? Its gonna end sometime..
You play it for the fun of it..
Well hypothetically considering life like a huge game.. we play it for the fun, drama, prosperity, fame and all..
People have diff objectives in life and our life is like a huge clock ticking down to the end point..
We must complete our objectives before it..
And if you die happy..you win the game..
Sad.. you lose..
Okay.. lol.. and my own view.. i live life... cos i dont wanna die now.. got a few things to do before my clock ticks down.. :)
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i believe we all have a purpose in life... and also there is an afterlife which is a result of THIS life...
so i live to try reach the goal of my life n also to better my living condition in the next life...
n life is soo much fun if u have a +ve aspect...
i love helping pple... esp psychologically ( ::) duno if its well written) so i make it a must that i help all those i can... even those i dnt like...
n i must llive so that i become a better person as i grow up n gain wisdom n knowledge.... :)
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I believe we live inspite knowing we ar dying its natural cycle everything has end
but we live a life to fullfill our aims ,dreams ,experience .everyone has target in his life
life is beautifull if u hav everything and ur happy but despite dat it is boring if u don't work hard 4 wat u want .
it is the nature of human that they always want more to gain and dats why they want to live more
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well, life's a gift thrust on us, deres nuthin we can do but live it.
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Life's a blast. Enjoy it till it lasts. ;)
Don't say sh*t like: "Life's a b*tch, *censored* it."
Live a long and healthy life full of enjoyment. :]
just my 2 cents.
pz
-MaNi
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I liked what Teju said :)
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Life's a blast. Enjoy it till it lasts. ;)
Don't say sh*t like: "Life's a b*tch, f**k it."
Live a long and healthy life full of enjoyment. :]
just my 2 cents.
pz
-MaNi
Exactly. That's the thing I wanted to say! ;D
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is this a debate or just a discussion ???
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I liked what Teju said :)
haha.. thanks.. :D
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is this a debate or just a discussion ???
Discussion.
Gimme some time everyone, I'll be back.
Thank you for the views. Highly appreciated. :)
Please continue.
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Life's a blast. Enjoy it till it lasts. ;)
Don't say sh*t like: "Life's a b*tch, f**k it."
Live a long and healthy life full of enjoyment. :]
just my 2 cents.
pz
-MaNi
I just noticed. Moved to Debates??? Why? I don't want it to turn into a religious battlefield. :-\
Why are my questions mostly transferred...? :-\
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Discussion.
Gimme some time everyone, I'll be back.
Thank you for the views. Highly appreciated. :)
Please continue.
exactly, why is it over here in the debates section ???
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I just noticed. Moved to Debates??? Why? I don't want it to turn into a religious battlefield. :-\
Why are my questions mostly transferred...? :-\
shall i take it back to chit chat?
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Full speed ahead.
Juvjlyn
A wall.
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shall i take it back to chit chat?
Thank you :), but we'll wait for Mani...
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@ Omer
Curiosity, why not...?
Yes, you're right. We all know the destination, death, but yet humans choose to make the journey--- curiosity. :)
@ AS Girl
Experience, that's a good reason too. :)
i have no regrets for missing anything in it
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Ya, that is right. Regret, we would regret badly if we do not live. No matter how life is.
@ Astar
You sent me to have a stroll in the universe! ;) Very 'astronomical' answer. I thought that too before, but then this nothing is our everything, after all.
@ Borakk
Money, power, fame, popularity, I don't think these are good parcels to carry to a tomb. But anyway, personal views. :)
And everything that has a beginning has an end.
Makes me remember, "the Alpha and Omega". :)
Refer below please. ;)
@ Lana Wolf
Nice answer. :)
A friend of mine, Hades is his nick (Mentioned, cause I know he wouldn't mind ;D) had said something similar:
Why must we sleep since anyway we are going to wake up?
Why must we eat since anyway we are going to feel hungry?
There are many things in life we do because we do, life is also one of those.
@ Happy Angel
You gave me a very personal answer, like some others. The reason why you want to live. Good reasons. :)
But check below. ;)
@ Noor
Apart from the personal reasons, "it is the nature of human that they always want more to gain and dats why they want to live more ". :) Nature, we live because it's natural. That's a good one too. You're the first person to talk about human nature. :)
@ Amelia
well, life's a gift thrust on us, deres nuthin we can do but live it.
I like your answer. :) Brief, but yet, deep. One of the best answers, so far. :)
@ Mani
I got a poem from someone else also. :)
That's a sweet way of expressing your views. ;)
But please, you too, refer to below.
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Okay, what I noticed, some gave reasons why they must live. Dreams, goals, achievements, love and all.
When I'm talking of "we", I'm referring to the whole human race. Life, not yours nor mine, but of all humans. And please, religious views kept aside.
Well, I did get good reasons from here. :)
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Everybody expressed their views. However, there is one lady who is too shy to express herself! ;)
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okayy 8)
lets put it like that then...
we've manage to gt in this world.. we didnt have much say upon this ::)
soo as long as we are here WE must make it worthy to live na! soo we mus live to the fullest!
its like u gt some plasticine... we make the best mould we can so that wen we r done we can admire it n b proud of the mould we created!!!
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Everybody expressed their views. However, there is one lady who is too shy to express herself! ;)
LOL, you can go on find better answers everyone... Question still open! ;)
okayy 8)
lets put it like that then...
we've manage to gt in this world.. we didnt have much say upon this :o
soo as long as we are here WE must make it worthy to live na! soo we mus live to the fullest!
its like u gt some plasticine... we make the best mould we can so that wen we r done we can admire it n b proud of the mould we created!!!
That's fine too. :)
"we mus live to the fullest"... Actually, am asking 'why'? ;) ;) ;)
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Alpha, none of us will answer your question this time unless you express yourself! ;) We want your opinion about this!!! :)
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Alpha, none of us will answer your question this time unless you express yourself! ;) We want your opinion about this!!! :)
I will, after you all have answered. Amelia did that partly for me. :)
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Can I post the answers from Yahoo and The Evolution here? In case you wanna have a look...
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Can I post the answers from Yahoo and The Evolution here? In case you wanna have a look...
yup sure! post them!
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yup sure! post them!
Thank you, that's sweet. :)
But I would prefer one of the mods confirm. Cause it could be mistaken for spamming.
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Arre yaar, oversensitive maat ho! Post kar do!
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Hehehe. That was nice Hindi. :D
But rules are rules. I'm not oversensitive, I'm cautious. :)
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Oh not again!
Ok tum post karo. Eiye mera jimmedari hai agar kuch garbar ho jai. +roll eyes!+ satisfied? Mei dekhna chahtahu ki duniya mein sab lok kis lien jii rehahen! Aur kitne lok mere tara jirahahe.
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Okay, 2 requests.
From The Evolution:
Zahir:
we must live to make our surroundings happy.
Pooja:
Life is once. We cant say whether we'll have next birth, so we must live meaningful life in this birth itself. According to me we shouldn't live a selfish life. We must be helpful to others also. We should achieve something in our life.. Life shouldnt be like I LIVE ONLY FOR MY FAMILY MEMBERS.. WE MUST LIVE FOR OTHERS TOO, I mean should help others too(poor people). Only then it will be called as fulfilled life and there will be some meaning to our life.. :-)
Silence:
Well, it is so diffecult question when i leave aside religious!
However I live becouse I still breathing and I have a SOUL ha ha ha ....
Oh!!! Sis let me be more serious , i live because I have aims and dreams .
If we are not created in this land that means its no life no humans no animals but may be their will be some ghost ha ha ha .
Really diffecult question Sis .I cant answer it !
Nyle (modified reply):
My apologies..hehehe I haven't give a full thought to the question.My previous answer more like to answer "what's the importance of me in life?"
Anyway,back to the question that has been raised by Alpha,on why must we live,I'd like to give my simple answer..
We (you,I and them) must live in this world since we have to make the world(Earth) live..Why do we need to make the Earth live? Cuz scientifically,Earth will never function well as planet without any living things.We are the "living things"..Only us who have the power to make the world(Earth) lively..Have you ever imagine why we don't we live in other planet aside of Earth?.That's because other planets don't need living things to make them functioning...Yes we die,but then we are replaced by other people to keep Earth functioning...
Jaime:
IN simple terms, we live to die as we die to live!:) It's quite complicated or perhaps the right term is "confusing". Aside from our own individual purposes, there is this main goal of our Creator (that's why it seems difficult not to consider religious belief) which is really unknown to us. We must live to compensate or support others which is passed from one generation to another.
IN math: (1.) Father + Mother = Children. Father/Mother support the children until they grow up. Children became (2.) Father + Mother = Children and (1.) became grandparents and their time will come to an end and so on and so forth!
Ahhhhhh.... can't think of the right terms to use......hehehehe
Elee:
those who live want to die.those who died want to live.hmm... your came up with a complicated question for me. ;)
i dont want to sit in one place and do nothing and waiting to die.its boring and frustating.i might get a gun and shoot in my head.no,i dont want to do that :(
CoCa:
There is no imposition on us, no one is forcing us to live, we are free to choose between life or death....
we are the decision makers, we can stay alive or rush to put an end to it by killing oneself "suicide".
We live to live, no one can know what others are living for???
Roberto:
I think that Life and all its complexities belong to a higher field of interests webbed with eternity, prolongeance, macrocosmos and others.
But seeing life as a MUST seems to be a very pessimistic way of facing this beautiful lapsus of exitence. some say it is neutral and that we make it good or bad.
Anyway, here is a peom i wrote someday about this fascinating and challenging episode we so innocently call life:
The Song Of Life
It starts as a blank page, no lines, no words, no notes.
Gradually the staff of life appears, and music around it floats.
The title flickers as a name is given and then takes hold,
A soft steady beat begins, new, yet ancient and old.
It will grow and build during the teen years then in midlife slow,
A melody soft, gently rising high then fading again to low.
Sometimes moving with a frenzy of motion, then only a steady drone,
Each phase of life moves along with a melody and rhythm all it's own.
The harmony of thousands of interests and voices intermixes with this song.
Here a cordial harmony, there a contrapuntal melody from the throng.
There are no repeats, no 2nd endings, the bars move steadily on,
Measuring life's passage, as do the sunset and the dawn.
The beat accelerates, the rhythm driven on before pausing for a bird's eye view,
Feel then the strength in tragedy or joy as it is frozen in review.
Off again with a fanfare of horns, the sounds of life are made,
Crescendoing until the final cymbal crash of the symphony is played.
And when the overture is complete and deaths silence reigns at last,
Will the audience stand and applaud for the song of life which past?
May the music of this life be remembered then with joyful tears,
And may the song be
Eneida:
Well God brings us to life with one mission......so we must complete our mission in life,,,,Thats why we need to live.....To give Love and to be loved!
Shilpa:
we must live to fulfill the task that god gave us to do.a person who does not do anything is considered to be lazy and often never is judged goodly.he is ignored in the society.and i call it the exam of life and when u pass u get a reward a imortality.when u have good results by doing good wroks then u get imortality or go tio heaven and when u do bad works u go to hell.its a commonly said like that.so we must live to do great task which we r delivered and we have to live for it.and as for dieing its necesary becoz wat comes on earth should one day go fom it.its as if he is renting not owinig his private property
Aryan:
Roses bloom and fade away. Spring comes and fade to yet another evanescent summer. We come and go. The process keeps on going. It seems, to me, we live keep to keep our nature in a state of dynamic equilibrium( I don't know what exactly this thing called nature is). Our life is entirely connected with the life of others. We live for others, knowingly or unknowingly.
Innocent:
Well ,,..We must Live in order to Die,,
If we can't live then there will be no such word called "Death"...
so to make alive the word death,,,,,We must live,,,,whether we die soon or later,,
Note: I excluded answers relating to religion only, which may be considered offensive to some.
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Yahoo Answers:
Meena:
This living is not our choice. We never opted to be born at this place to this parents at this time. It is a natural happening that we are here. We dont have any other choice. Life and death comes upon us without our choice. It is a better option or way of thinking to do research on how to live. Time starts for each of us when we come out of our mother's womb. It ends when we die. Time is a dimension based on which we measure everything on this world. After death this time dimension is not there for each individual. To understand this if we analyse sleeping, we can infer something important. Daily when we sleep and get up after few hours, we know that we have slept for so many hours only after seeing the clock or the sun. So we are not aware of the clock ticking when we sleep. Death is same. Till now time has not been defined by the scientific community. They only predict it keeps on moving forward as long as our universe is expanding. This is happening at the speed of light. At some instant, the time will start reversing. Every one of us will be awakened from our grave yard, as time will go in reverse direction, we will see our worldly actions before us. This is the judgement day. We cant imagine that day as we are now living on an opposite plane. All good actions will be rewarded and people will go to heaven and hell based on their worldly deeds. After that the life will become eternal. No time dimension at all.
Joeseph M:
i sometimes think that maybe the fact that we can come up with these questions is bigger, like we are meant to live and die but we kinda just happened to quesion our existence
as for the "must" live thing; things must end eventually
and what would there be if no one lived?
Daniel:
Well its a beautiful thing to waste. Every human is naturally happy it's the thought patterns we are brought up in that bring us down. So believe in what ever you must to keep your spirit high. I suggest taking up love as your religion, I think it is the only choice we have, all else is nonsense.
Idiots Academy:
In directly If I put your question:
What are the determinants of your life? Is it you alone?
If you alone determine your life, you could answer it.
If I alone determine your life, I could answer it.
There is no answer.
If you want some vague answer, you can find here: http://analytical.wikia.com
Dillon:
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no really though, you probably won't like this answer, but is some of my studies, I have came to understand that we are to create balance between heaven, or the universe, or whatever you want to call it and earth.
Jimmy:
Maybe being born is like entering into a contract that states you are alive until the day where your life came from decides to take it back.
Subprimelender:
Well, since you put it that way, the only answer is we are under no obligation to live at all!
JC:
It's the road that you travelled that counts, not the destination.
98 Bones:
I see no reason why anyone MUST live at all.
No Real Help:
Your life, your body, your choice, your business.
no one is forcing anyone to stay.
Dude:
no reason at all
Plus Elee's answer, I gave already in the last post. You may vote for what you think is the best answer.
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i love zahir's n pooja's answers most!!! :-* the others i must chek ance more i read them pretty kwikly :)
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i love zahir's n pooja's answers most!!! :-* the others i must chek ance more i read them pretty kwikly :)
Someone voted for your answer too there. :)
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Hmmmmmm. I am surprised by the number of people adopting a pessimistic view of life! No offences though. :)
Dhannyabad Cleopatra!
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Someone voted for your answer too there. :)
wah!! coo00!! 8) :o
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Galih Satria from The Evolution (just answered):
No one will ever die if he never lives.
No one ever will go to hell if he does
not do wrong things and works otherwise for heaven's case.
And no one will enjoy this short, yet pretty life, learn and understand our existence before HIM.
That He deserves to make the "must live" and any other "must" thing.
If any mere human thinks otherwise, he must try to debate HIM for whole his life just to find the truth that He is Undebatable.
We MUST live for those reasons, since God is fair in cause and effect law.
Sorry to trash with this cheap comment
>>> No sarcasm, Borakk.
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LOL, nice try Cleo! But I am sorry to inform that you have failed!
Everybody Say: ALLL IZZZ WELLL!!!
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LOL, nice try Cleo! But I am sorry to inform that you have failed!
Everybody Say: ALLL IZZZ WELLL!!!
Try for what? ? ? !
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Galih Satria from The Evolution (this one's interesting :)):
when the question was emphasized on "MUST" did not this mean that an outer power pushed the life?
Otherwise the question would prefer "WANT TO"
well,I am not a religious person (Unfortunately T_T).
But I agree to the question that most-not to say all- of my life is about 'MUST'.
When I was a baby, (1)I never wanted to breath but My lung said It needed oxygen.
(2)I never wanted to eat but my stomach growld n ma body shivered out of control.
(3)I never wanted to step on the ground but gravity hugd me
--so, umm well, should I say we MUST live so that the oxygen n food n gravity function as it MUST--
Or else, someone is playing mario bross with me as the avatar except I dont jump all day long and I cry when the boss beats me (this one is real) LoL
I LOVE this forum,Alpha....
Alpha said:
Okay, part of your answer is good.
"And no one will enjoy this short, yet pretty life, learn and understand our existence". :)
Just try not to include God here, he did not ask for it please. Comment is not "cheap", but it should be for everyone. Everyone.
Thank you for the reply. ;)
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discuss something factual, which can be proved using facts :D
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discuss something factual, which can be proved using facts :D
Exactly. Thats the point. This topic is purposeless, to be frank. Treatising on theories is of NO use if we have no practical purpose/motive behind it.
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Fine, if it's "purposeless" for you, should I delete it then??
Will not matter to me, frankly, since I can still have people's views on Yahoo Answers and The Evolution, people for whom talking about life has a purpose.
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Fine, if it's "purposeless" for you, should I delete it then??
Will not matter to me, frankly, since I can still have people's views on Yahoo Answers and The Evolution, people for whom talking about life has a purpose.
naa dnt.. its interesting to knw wat others fink... il faut de tout pour faire un monde u knw;)
u always gt inertia but it doesnt min u shud stop moving 8) 8)
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nevermind them Alpha, you're topics are always well-recieved, and many different members participate in them, them calling these topics pointless is only a value judgement that belongs to no one but these two
Borakk, vaibhav, say something of use (i.e. not pointless) or say nothing
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Yes, Princess Cleopatra, feel free to delete this topic. Because, as you must have realized by now, this topic is considered to be useless and purposeless by most of us, except some minority. And, next time, try making topics which hold a definite (not vague) purpose.
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Yes, Princess Cleopatra, feel free to delete this topic. Because, as you must have realized by now, this topic is considered to be useless and purposeless by most of us, except some minority. And, next time, try making topics which hold a definite (not vague) purpose.
n dear borakk, by some minority u mean how much? :P :P
just you two guys? ::) ::) :P
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I know that, dear happy angel. But you must also take another factor into account. That is, the fact that most members are afraid to blurt out that this topic is purposeless and useless, in the fear of hurting Miss Alpha-turned Princess Cleopatra-turned Alpha's sentiments. The difference is that Me and Sgvaibhav are bold enough to get this fact in front of everybody. AND we have done so. However, the ultimate decision lies in the hand of Miss Alpha-turned Princess Cleopatra-turned Alpha. She should have deleted this topic by now if she had some respect for other peoples opinions.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY HAPPY ANGEL! LOL, Thats a nice chorus!
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I know that, dear happy angel. But you must also take another factor into account. That is, the fact that most members are afraid to blurt out that this topic is purposeless and useless, in the fear of hurting Miss Alpha-turned Princess Cleopatra-turned Alpha's sentiments. The difference is that Me and Sgvaibhav are bold enough to get this fact in front of everybody. AND we have done so. However, the ultimate decision lies in the hand of Miss Alpha-turned Princess Cleopatra-turned Alpha. She should have deleted this topic by now if she had some respect for other peoples opinions.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY HAPPY ANGEL! LOL, Thats a nice chorus!
oww dude.. shudnt make a fuss u knw..
i min the topic is interesting.. now if its not to ur taste or u prefer smfing more money related its smfing else ;) i knw these things are not ur cup of tea... but it may be sm1 else's na? :P
LOL Thanks agan.. :) :) but as i said its not yet my time :-[
am not 19 yet ( dnt wana be too but cant do anifing) my bday is the 22nd so i still have time to b called young ::) tho u guys are younger than me :P :P :-[
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Happy Angel,
Thank you for the maturity. Thank you for the help, thank you for everything. :) Grateful for your support.
Omer,
Thank you so much also. You've always been there whenever I needed you. Appreciate and respect that. :)
Borakk,
Cut the crap. Your problem is not with the topic, it's with me. Everybody must have realised it by now... It's so clear and obvious. You've been doing that everywhere.
If you find my presence irritating here, just tell it. I know where the door is. Will leave by 'respecting your opinion'.
Cleopatra was a Queen, not a Princess.
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Happy Angel,
Thank you for the maturity. Thank you for the help, thank you for everything. :) Grateful for your support.
Omer,
Thank you so much also. You've always been there whenever I needed you. Appreciate and respect that. :)
Borakk,
Cut the crap. Your problem is not with the topic, it's with me. Everybody must have realised it by now... It's so clear and obvious. You've been doing that everywhere.
If you find my presence irritating here, just tell it. I know where the door is. Will leave by 'respecting your opinion'.
Cleopatra was a Queen, not a Princess.
LOL thank you n welcome :-*
hey common no fights :(
we must respect ich other's opinion na?
we all have different choices n taste.. sme pple are more on the *inside* n some are more on the *outside* we have spirituality n materialism...
it is two different things n it represents two types of mind.. so i fink we shud respect ich other's mindset... n carry out healthy debates! ::)
you two shud stop fighting ur differences... just learn to accept it....
borakk n alpha shud shake hands!! ;D ;D n make peace!!!! >:(
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@Alpha:
"Kindly let me know when you change your name, parents and gender"
I cannot actually remember where you wrote it but actually I was a bit, I emphasise, a bit, offended when you spoke about my parents.
Now lets get it straight: You wrote the above when I changed my ID. So yesterday or so when you changed your ID yourself, I did not want to let the opportunity slip by. I made every effort to offend and humiliate you in every way possible. Also, you propagated the thing (increased my opportunity) when you changed back to ~Alpha.
Reading your last reply, I realize I have been really foolish to think like that. It is I who have been purposeless and pointless. I have been childish all the way to think like that and offend or humiliate you in the 'professional' and 'strict business like' tone I adapted. I myself have created many topics which were very unpopular and pointless. Your topic is not at all pointless or purposeless. It does hold a much greater degree of purpose than the topics which I created. Otherwise it would not have got so many replies. Its just that your and mine opinions are different about this topic.
So please forgive me if it is possible. I will never taunt you or try to humiliate you in any way in the future, whatever you say or do to me.
If you do forgive me, there is one last thing. Yesterday in one of your post, you mentioned that you will never give up, whatever I say or do. But, I guess, you didn't stick to that. Did you change your ID back to ~Alpha because of me? If it is so, please feel free to change your ID back to Cleo~patra again. You deserve to be a Queen!
Cheers!
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@Alpha:
"Kindly let me know when you change your name, parents and gender"
I cannot actually remember where you wrote it but actually I was a bit, I emphasise, a bit, offended when you spoke about my parents.
Now lets get it straight: You wrote the above when I changed my ID. So yesterday or so when you changed your ID yourself, I did not want to let the opportunity slip by. I made every effort to offend and humiliate you in every way possible. Also, you propagated the thing (increased my opportunity) when you changed back to ~Alpha.
Reading your last reply, I realize I have been really foolish to think like that. It is I who have been purposeless and pointless. I have been childish all the way to think like that and offend or humiliate you in the 'professional' and 'strict business like' tone I adapted. I myself have created many topics which were very unpopular and pointless. Your topic is not at all pointless or purposeless. It does hold a much greater degree of purpose than the topics which I created. Otherwise it would not have got so many replies. Its just that your and mine opinions are different about this topic.
So please forgive me if it is possible. I will never taunt you or try to humiliate you in any way in the future, whatever you say or do to me.
If you do forgive me, there is one last thing. Yesterday in one of your post, you mentioned that you will never give up, whatever I say or do. But, I guess, you didn't stick to that. Did you change your ID back to ~Alpha because of me? If it is so, please feel free to change your ID back to Cleo~patra again. You deserve to be a Queen!
Cheers!
Now thats better!!! :D :) :) :) :-* :-*
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I hear all the time in England that people want to die because life is too much trouble. Will there be anyone left here soon?
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i doubt it sir :P haha
and guys please your not kids .. these pointless "fights" should not take place here .. evreyone should respect each other ;)
Thanks :)
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@Alpha:
"Kindly let me know when you change your name, parents and gender"
I cannot actually remember where you wrote it but actually I was a bit, I emphasise, a bit, offended when you spoke about my parents.
Now lets get it straight: You wrote the above when I changed my ID. So yesterday or so when you changed your ID yourself, I did not want to let the opportunity slip by. I made every effort to offend and humiliate you in every way possible. Also, you propagated the thing (increased my opportunity) when you changed back to ~Alpha.
Reading your last reply, I realize I have been really foolish to think like that. It is I who have been purposeless and pointless. I have been childish all the way to think like that and offend or humiliate you in the 'professional' and 'strict business like' tone I adapted. I myself have created many topics which were very unpopular and pointless. Your topic is not at all pointless or purposeless. It does hold a much greater degree of purpose than the topics which I created. Otherwise it would not have got so many replies. Its just that your and mine opinions are different about this topic.
So please forgive me if it is possible. I will never taunt you or try to humiliate you in any way in the future, whatever you say or do to me.
If you do forgive me, there is one last thing. Yesterday in one of your post, you mentioned that you will never give up, whatever I say or do. But, I guess, you didn't stick to that. Did you change your ID back to ~Alpha because of me? If it is so, please feel free to change your ID back to Cleo~patra again. You deserve to be a Queen!
Cheers!
You can be sincere when you want to. :) That was so natural...
My apologies, I was joking when I talked about changing your "name, gender and parents". Wasn't meant to offend, it was supposed to indicate the importance of your ID. Nevertheless, I did apologize. :( But, maybe, you still hold it against me. -_-
I don't know what to say... You said it all...
Borakk, I know, everyone has a certain amount of "amour propre". It's okay, you justified what you did.
I won't say or do anything. I have no enmities with anyone. Everybody is equal, and deserves equal treatment therein.
Rest assured, I have nothing against you nor anyone else.
Thank you for being sincere. It's the first time. :)
For me, "~Alpha" is better than any Queen. :) It's me. Noone else. That's why I changed.
Forget everything which may be hurtful and move on. I repeat, have nothing against you.
:)
@ Astar
"Will there be anyone left here soon?" :) Good analysis. One of the answers I was expecting, you're the first one to mention.
@ Youcef
Thank you for coming, late. :P The later, the better? ;)
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dont delete.........................
if someone posts or not, dont delete.
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@ Youcef
Thank you for coming, late. :P The later, the better? ;)
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well i dont spend my whole time on SF .. i do have a life you know :P haha .. yeah the later the better :D :P
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LOL. We all have a life... :)
Anyway, answers continue to pop in The Evolution:
Galih Satria:
In the end, Alpha would say....
We must live to search the answer of 'why we must live' (That was witty :))
Arya:
some questions will not have answers...but ur question is like y should we sleep though we have to wake up every day...cause we are taking rest for what we have done....
Leena:
Life is God gift to us. We have to live right, think right, act right.
We have different roles in our life and have to play all roles rightly.
*Typo corrected.
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Best Answer chosen on Yahoo Answers:
E.lee Akmal:
those who lives wants to die.those who dies wants to live.hmm... your came up with a complicated question for me. ;)
i dont want to sit in one place and do nothing and waiting to die.its boring and frustating.i might get a gun and shoot in my head.no,i dont want to do that :(
Feedback:
"I dont want to sit in one place and do nothing and waiting to die.its boring and frustating."
Yes... :)
We must live cause it's the only choice we have. Cause there's nothing else we can do apart from living. Nothing more but live.
Thank you everyone! Appreciate your effort. :)
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we must live, because it is what we want, sure, we are going to die, but we want to live, so the question why must we live if we are going to die anyways is pointless,
because its not a must that we live, i mean u can jump off a cliff and die, thats your choice, but the reason why we live is because we want to and because dieing is painful, that is why we dont want to die. Furthermore, there is no account as to what happens after death, like no one died and came back up again. so its a feeling of insecurity.
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we must live, because it is what we want, sure, we are going to die, but we want to live, so the question why must we live if we are going to die anyways is pointless,
because its not a must that we live, i mean u can jump off a cliff and die, thats your choice, but the reason why we live is because we want to and because dieing is painful, that is why we dont want to die. Furthermore, there is no account as to what happens after death, like no one died and came back up again. so its a feeling of insecurity.
Because it is what we want... Desire.
To live is a choice, yes, I got that answer from someone else too.
Death, I know, is a choice. But birth is not.
Furthermore, there is no account as to what happens after death, like no one died and came back up again. so its a feeling of insecurity.
Ya, exactly, then why should death be a choice? That was something new. Insecurity. Yes, you can get closer... :)
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Best Answer chosen on Speaking24 The Evolution:
Galih Satria:
In the end, Alpha would say....
We must live to search the answer of 'why we must live'
Feedback:
That was witty! ;)
Hehehe, okay, you win here... It was what I would say before I asked this question. But then, I took the time to think...
Congratulations! Well done. :)
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Best Answer chosen on Student Forums & OVERALL BEST ANSWER:
Amelia:
well, life's a gift thrust on us, deres nuthin we can do but live it.
Feedback:
Yes, THAT is the answer I was looking for. Because there is nothing more we can do. :)
Very deep answer... :)
Congratulations & Thank you Amelia! (+rep * 3 ;))
Because of you, SF wins the finals. ;)
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My teacher who maybe will lose his life (God forbid :() because of cancer said:
I sat and thought and realised... Doesn't matter you're rich or not, beautiful or ugly, stupid or smart, successful or a failure, white or black, fair or dark, powerful or feeble, Muslim or Jew, Hindu or Christian, fat or thin...
When two corpses are placed next to each other, the whole world's difference suddenly dissolves...
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well if we r gnna end up dieing, then y dont we leave a footprint , a memory or somthing that will keep us alive through the generations.
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well if we r gnna end up dieing, then y dont we leave a footprint , a memory or somthing that will keep us alive through the generations.
Yes, holds when others are alive. We live through them after death.
What if ALL of us were then?
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What the heck r u guys blabbering on about? >:(
"Why MUST we live, since anyway we are going to die?" ha haa then i will do u a favour by pushing u off the cliff!! :P
Okay, now to be serious,I think life IS BEAUTIFUL cause WE ARE MORTALS.think about it guys.I personally think that GODS ENVY US!! ;).Seriously I am not kidding :-\.Now have u thought about it guys???
Each moment in life is Beautiful because we r mortals, who knows what may happen to us the next day and we may not get a chance to live that moment again. Everything is beautiful because u know...... we could just fade away to emptyness...(nothingness is more suitable). I like everything about life even the way my poop smells like!!! :P(jk),u know ....... daily the emptyness at night reminds me how wonderful this whole creation is like during the day and how bad it can be if i don't enjoy it now.....Everyday I look at the world ,it just makes me wonder how this world was just created just from an explosion!!!!(I don't believe it, dude , where did that primordial matter come from?? ???) It makes me wanna sing the song"What a wonderful world" by louis armstrong (go and google it).
"Man is just god's plaything" (the guy who wrote it, must've been a jack***)
GODs envy us because they are not MORTALS like us.They cannot cherish the beauty that life has because they have seen it like for eternity....(remember infinite loop huh alpha? :P) and they will go on seeing it. On the other hand we are like rose petals .... nobody knows when we are gonna wither out....this makes everything more precious and special......Doesn't matter whether u r blind or lame or dumb or poor, just be ****ing grateful that u r alive and r not an frigging atom or even worse ha haa.
I think all of these things I have said can be summed up by EMINEM's song LOOSE YOURSELF..(go and google it)
Read the 1st few lines:
Look, if you had one shot, or one opportunity
To seize everything you ever wanted in one moment
Would you capture it? Or just let it slip?
COOL HUH!!! then read the next lines...............
So what will UUUUUUUU dooo,huh guys?Go to a corner and keep sobbing and bit**ing about it
or
Live ur Life to Fullest And Become a BAD*** dude :P
(I dont know about u guys but im gonna go with the latter, cause it sounds .......u know... 8) )
The next few lines r not for humans.I'm serious. :)
NOTE TO GODS - If U r reading this in the net!!!! and r jealous of me, a mortal,then come over to my place... :)
Lets switch places.. I've always wanted to be immortal......like hell I am gonna do it. ;) ;D :P(ooh ooh made u a fool out of u dear god :P )
so u guys read it upto here huh :P U had been warned. Now I'm not responsible if u get offended. :P
(sorry to anyone if i have offended u through this post.I'm truly sorry Hope u liked it.I gave my best shot ........like hell i m gonna say that>> This is a debate thread so i m going to say what i like -if u like my post,thats cool dude but if u don't go and do me a favor -go and take a look at ur face in the mirror and then...................kiss ur friggin *** ;D :P ha haaa haaa )
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You know Sade, the on-the-extreme philosopher...?
Suddenly you made me remember him... ::) :P
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oh u read it to the end uh alpha :P?
WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT???? :o >:(
noooooo! don't compare me with that Fa**ot :o .I am not a bit similar to that pervert. >:(. and for god's sake I am not a sadist!!!! ;)(who knows, only god knows :P)
I am me and that guy is u know ........ a frigging "heshe". :)Insulting me like that........ I will be sure to take my VENGEANCE!!!!!! >:D(evil laughter muahaaaaaah).be careful while u go to sleep...... be sure to lock ur doors and windows :Pand dont forget to check under ur bed ;).....u know in movies "The Bogeyman" is always hidden under the bed !!! >:D If u read the news carefully u will find that many girls have vanished from their rooms "miraculously" >:D I wonder what happened to them ::)....and I wonder what will happen to u :P >:D............. According to Murphy's law and Uncertainty principle u r NOT SAFE ANYWHERE!!!!!! ;) :P >:D....So remember to pray to GOD tonight before sleeping and ask "him" to save u from LORD KRATOS's WRATH!!!! 8) ;) :P >:D
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Kratos, can you ever shut up? ::) :P JK
You really have a lot of time in this world to type so much ....
I will get back with my point...
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Sade was not a 'heshe', but somebody who despised religion and God tremendously.
You look like a primary kid trying to scare his classmate.
It works deadly wrong. :P
Well, yes, I read it all... But am a bit busy these days, so just replying short for now.
By the way, we call ~ > tilde. ;)
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Sade was not a 'heshe', but somebody who despised religion and God tremendously.
You look like a primary kid trying to scare his classmate.
It works deadly wrong. :P
Well, yes, I read it all... But am a bit busy these days, so just replying short for now.
By the way, we call ~ > tilde. ;)
I called Sade "heshe" because he used to commit sodomy!!!(guess its called gay, but i call it "heshe" because it sounds better.did u get me??
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I called Sade "heshe" because he used to commit sodomy!!!(guess its called gay, but i call it "heshe" because it sounds better.did u get me??
He did it because he hated God, found pleasure in offending Him. Not for the act itself.
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He did it because he hated God, found pleasure in offending Him. Not for the act itself.
but since he does it anyway, cant I call him a "heshe"? ;)
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but since he does it anyway, cant I call him a "heshe"? ;)
LOL, he forces others to do it as well. You can call him a tyrant also. :P
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LOL, he forces others to do it as well. You can call him a tyrant also. :P
yeah that bastard used to have girls as sex slaves and he even used to do his male servant!!!!ha haaa
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We are all just a ripple in nothing.
Make as much of nothing as you can
OMG heheheh. My Physics teacher says we are mostly nothing as atoms contain mostly air xD ;D
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better a ripple in nothing than nothing
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oh u read it to the end uh alpha :P?
WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT???? :o >:(
noooooo! don't compare me with that Fa**ot :o .I am not a bit similar to that pervert. >:(. and for god's sake I am not a sadist!!!! ;)(who knows, only god knows :P)
I am me and that guy is u know ........ a frigging "heshe". :)Insulting me like that........ I will be sure to take my VENGEANCE!!!!!! >:D(evil laughter muahaaaaaah).be careful while u go to sleep...... be sure to lock ur doors and windows :Pand dont forget to check under ur bed ;).....u know in movies "The Bogeyman" is always hidden under the bed !!! >:D If u read the news carefully u will find that many girls have vanished from their rooms "miraculously" >:D I wonder what happened to them ::)....and I wonder what will happen to u :P >:D............. According to Murphy's law and Uncertainty principle u r NOT SAFE ANYWHERE!!!!!! ;) :P >:D....So remember to pray to GOD tonight before sleeping and ask "him" to save u from LORD KRATOS's WRATH!!!! 8) ;) :P >:D
What the heck r u guys blabbering on about? >:(
"Why MUST we live, since anyway we are going to die?" ha haa then i will do u a favour by pushing u off the cliff!! :P
Okay, now to be serious,I think life IS BEAUTIFUL cause WE ARE MORTALS.think about it guys.I personally think that GODS ENVY US!! ;).Seriously I am not kidding :-\.Now have u thought about it guys???
Each moment in life is Beautiful because we r mortals, who knows what may happen to us the next day and we may not get a chance to live that moment again. Everything is beautiful because u know...... we could just fade away to emptyness...(nothingness is more suitable). I like everything about life even the way my poop smells like!!! :P(jk),u know ....... daily the emptyness at night reminds me how wonderful this whole creation is like during the day and how bad it can be if i don't enjoy it now.....Everyday I look at the world ,it just makes me wonder how this world was just created just from an explosion!!!!(I don't believe it, dude , where did that primordial matter come from?? ???) It makes me wanna sing the song"What a wonderful world" by louis armstrong (go and google it).
"Man is just god's plaything" (the guy who wrote it, must've been a jack***)
GODs envy us because they are not MORTALS like us.They cannot cherish the beauty that life has because they have seen it like for eternity....(remember infinite loop huh alpha? :P) and they will go on seeing it. On the other hand we are like rose petals .... nobody knows when we are gonna wither out....this makes everything more precious and special......Doesn't matter whether u r blind or lame or dumb or poor, just be ****ing grateful that u r alive and r not an frigging atom or even worse ha haa.
I think all of these things I have said can be summed up by EMINEM's song LOOSE YOURSELF..(go and google it)
Read the 1st few lines:
Look, if you had one shot, or one opportunity
To seize everything you ever wanted in one moment
Would you capture it? Or just let it slip?
COOL HUH!!! then read the next lines...............
So what will UUUUUUUU dooo,huh guys?Go to a corner and keep sobbing and bit**ing about it
or
Live ur Life to Fullest And Become a BAD*** dude :P
(I dont know about u guys but im gonna go with the latter, cause it sounds .......u know... 8) )
The next few lines r not for humans.I'm serious. :)
NOTE TO GODS - If U r reading this in the net!!!! and r jealous of me, a mortal,then come over to my place... :)
Lets switch places.. I've always wanted to be immortal......like hell I am gonna do it. ;) ;D :P(ooh ooh made u a fool out of u dear god :P )
so u guys read it upto here huh :P U had been warned. Now I'm not responsible if u get offended. :P
(sorry to anyone if i have offended u through this post.I'm truly sorry Hope u liked it.I gave my best shot ........like hell i m gonna say that>> This is a debate thread so i m going to say what i like -if u like my post,thats cool dude but if u don't go and do me a favor -go and take a look at ur face in the mirror and then...................kiss ur friggin *** ;D :P ha haaa haaa )
May I request you to maintain some degree of politeness in the debate section please? This is not a joking place.
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May I request you to maintain some degree of politeness in the debate section please? This is not a joking place.
sorry dude..... :( very sorry...... :( :'(
wont happen again...... :'( :'(
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Ah its okay. No problemo.
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to answer that question a part of religion must be included most religions believe in the afterlife
if u know bout it then there is ur answer
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:D as theone said a part of religion is necessary
in christanity
from what i understand is that after the earth was created with everything xcept humans .... the Creator realised there is no one to communicate with Him......... so HE created man and woman in His own image so our lives belong to God and it does not belong to any person to take that life which the Creator has created.............
and for every created work by God there is apurpose....... small or big God will full fil at the rite time.....
for example bill gates...... if God hadn't created him and released him by october 25 1955............. i belive none of us would be using computerss................
so there is a purpose in life for everyone........... ;D
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Please leave religion out of ALL debates.
It is against the rules.
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We live to bring joy to people's lives. We live so we can find the joy in our life.
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sorry for my religious views..... :-X :-[
i will keep calm........... abot religion
as for the purpose we live...
we live for a purpose
and to bring joy to peoples lives
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@ Kratos, Theone, Plavelil & Nid
Life independent of religion, and others. Why do you think we live?
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@ Kratos, Theone, Plavelil & Nid
Life independent of religion, and others. Why do you think we live?
What do u mean by life independent of religion? ???
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What do u mean by life independent of religion? ???
Oh sorry, answer independent of religion.* ;D
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Don't know.......:P
But I think most people live because they were born...... I mean if they had the choice to be born they would not choose it....
It's like living because of fear of death.....because people fear pain.....
Yes, most of the time I guess it's because of fear.....
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Don't know.......:P
But I think most people live because they were born...... I mean if they had the choice to be born they would not choose it....
It's like living because of fear of death.....because people fear pain.....
Yes, most of the time I guess it's because of fear.....
Ya... Now I get a good answer. :)
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Basically fear is the fuel that drives us.Fear is mainly the cause of the advancement of homo sapiens......A student fears that he will fail, so he studies....An employee fears he won't earn money, so he works......and the list goes on.....
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Basically fear is the fuel that drives us.Fear is mainly the cause of the advancement of homo sapiens......A student fears that he will fail, so he studies....An employee fears he won't earn money, so he works......and the list goes on.....
Because they were born... ;)
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yep yep...
But there are always some exceptions ;)
What do u think abt it?
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yep yep...
But there are always some exceptions ;)
What do u think abt it?
I already wrote above... ;)
See previous pages.
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lol...We live cause we are born :P Nice :P
Yeah well, I said we live to experience life....to bring joy and find joy(very much independent of religion i guess :-\ )
There is no such thing is death, it's the just the absence of life
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lol...We live cause we are born :P Nice :P
Yeah well, I said we live to experience life....to bring joy and find joy(very much independent of religion i guess :-\ )
There is no such thing is death, it's the just the absence of life
Joy... How about the sorrow death spares? ;)
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We experience a lot in life. Our aim in life should be to find joy and bring joy to others, even amidst the other things we experience. It helps ;)
I have experienced sorrow, but our souls do not perish, memories do not fade away, love does not fade away...Loved ones remain, in our hearts,on our minds. Death is inevitable. I have a few quotes which have inspired me and I would like to share them with you
"Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." -Mahatma Gandhi
"When you were born, you cried and the world rejoiced. Live your life so that when you die, the world cries and you rejoice.”
:)
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We experience a lot in life. Our aim in life should be to find joy and bring joy to others, even amidst the other things we experience. It helps ;)
I have experienced sorrow, but our souls do not perish, memories do not fade away, love does not fade away...Loved ones remain, in our hearts,on our minds. Death is inevitable. I have a few quotes which have inspired me and I would like to share them with you
"Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." -Mahatma Gandhi
"When you were born, you cried and the world rejoiced. Live your life so that when you die, the world cries and you rejoice.”
:)
I liked this answer now. :-* Great, you see you can be great when you want. ;)
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True that ;)
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the reason for living is to provide happiness..and joy to others..........
excluding th e thought or idea of religion..........
to live also means to produce effective work and not be just a burden to the world or others .....
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i think we live ofcourse because we were born but to achieve something , to create new technology, to create new medicine, to help many i think that is why we live to achieve succes without certain people we wouldnt be where we are now
life is amazing dont waste it
(all this is ofcourse excluding eligion)