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Teachers and Students => Debates => Topic started by: nid404 on January 04, 2010, 12:08:54 pm
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We are all aware how the human population has exponentially increased over the years. And although technology helps with food production, medicines and the like, we cannot maintain a healthy population. Poverty is on the rise...With too many ppl to feed, I believe the government has every right to interfere and demand birth control. Birth control(please do not misinterpret, isn't an equivalent to abortion)
What are your views?
P.S-This debate will not have any religious arguments
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Poverty is not on the rise...
It is on the verge of falling, and is falling exponentially, as far as I can see in Bangladesh.
Day by day, we and everybody else is getting richer. We are not experiencing a fall in standard of living or reduction in our real income or whatsoever. Lets face it, we are getting more affluent day by day.
The govt. cannot force us to use pills, IUDs, diaphragm and others. It's the personal preference of somebody, whether h/she wants to use birth control methods or not (I know that many teenage girls take pills, even if it is not necessary for them!)
Of course the govt has the right, but it is of no use. We don't need no birth controls because we are getting richer day by day. And we will be able to feed our kids, no problem with that. But the thing is entirely upon personal preference, whether h/she wants to use or not.
Cheers!
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let's face the reality
A small fraction of the world is what you see. How many kids in Bangladesh can afford to study in an international school like yours?
The is still a vast economic chasm between the rich and poor. Just because the country as a whole shows a higher GDP per capita, more growth, a better Balance of payments does not mean it is in a better state in real(practical economics)...Just because something looks good on the outside doesn't mean the core is clean....
Your family may be able to fend for 4 kids but there r others who cannot.....And is a responsible global citizen, it is our duty to take initiatives....but when people stick to their norms, a government has to make new norms to deal with it....Convincing people is of no use, restrictions have to be made....
I am a single child :)
In my school too, we have CAS compulsory for A levels, wherein we teach rag-pickers and beggars from the street about how to go about earning, how to stay clean and hygienic and not fall ill and how to plan a family....since their family literally multiplies and they cover the entire lane.....
When we get outta home and see the entire situation, we pity it, but there is no use of the pity, unless it invokes u to take an action
Hence, curbing population growth is a must
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Oh, dear, I have two brothers, and no sisters!
I wish I had one!
By the way, what is CAS? ???
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It's a program Creativity Action Service....this is compulsory for all students in our school, regardless of whether you are ib or A levels
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OK nid, I'm not clear about one thing: How can the government force people to use birth control techniques?
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OK nid, I'm not clear about one thing: How can the government force people to use birth control techniques?
It's a law..a policy limiting the no.of children a family can have...with exceptions ofc or maybe minority families or parents without any siblings themsleves....
The family has to make sure it abides by the norms....I am against infanticide and abortions....so in case a family has failed the norms, it pays for it...
Now the family has to make sure not to exceed the limit...
And a municipality hospital will sell condoms(the simplest and most of the times effective means of birth control)...And it is cheap
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Well... good idea.
But educating these people is more important and should be done before implementing this. Otherwise if this is implemented, the govt. will lose votes for sure. Since the majority of the population of some countries are below the poverty line, govt. will not be willing to implement this since they will lord elections.
And I don't think condom is the simplest method of birth control (I've heard that it tears, ROTFL!!!). I would never ever have the courage to go to a dispensary and ask straight out for a condom! What a shame it must be! Its the pill which some girls and all married women take. ;)
Cheers!
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Borakk, the contraceptive pills have second effects! Condoms are better, and if you can't enter a pharmacy and ask for it directly, buy it in a super or hyper market. :P
P.S. Was a short comment, okay, am out. :-X ;D
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FOR GOD'S SAKE, I DON'T NEED AND NEVER NEEDED NO CONDOMS!
Stop making fun of me!
I am out of this dirty debate.
This is my last post in this topic.
No offence to anybody.
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Hehe, is that why my reply was "interesting" and "witty"? :P
Women do not like taking drugs either. ;) :P
Hehe, thank you.... :)
But am sorry, not now, I have lots to do... Maybe later, when I'll be free. ;)
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I dont know what are you talking about!
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I dont know what are you talking about!
No worries :)!
See you...
Else, they'll kick me from here, and place me in the AEDA thread. ;) ;D
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What's so dirty about the debate?
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What's so dirty about the debate?
What is dirty?? :o
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It's a program Creativity Action Service....this is compulsory for all students in our school, regardless of whether you are ib or A levels
Hey nid,
what school do you go to and where is it.
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I am out of this dirty debate.
actually china and india deploy these process, china more than india. i dont believe goverment should have any say in it. but i do believe that small families are much better to manage, and leads to a better future for them.
and there is nothing wrong to talk about birth and the process. its a natural process - religiously and scientifically.
Poverty is not on the rise...
It is on the verge of falling, and is falling exponentially, as far as I can see in Bangladesh.
actually, sadly, bangladesh is suffering from over population. our ancestors didnt think that the small land is too small and bangladesh is the world's most dense country. as for poverty. cia factbook put it at 1995 - 36%, 2004 - little above 44%, 2011 - 30%, and unemployment rate at: 1995 - 2%, 2004 - 4%, 2011 - 4.8% .. cia probably gets it from the bangladesh government, which is semi-reliable.
if the facts above are true, than we have seen large amounts of poverty even with low unemployment. unemployment is counted based on number of people who can have a job, but doesn't have one. so basically adults, from the age 17 - 55, excluding people with disabilities, prisoners etc... so unemployment rate is low, but most people live in poverty, so working people aren't able to support the rest, or they earn very little. leads to the conclussion of over population. too many laborers, too much supply of people, and unskilled labor.
in bangladesh, its very common for dads to leave their children with their moms and the moms have to support them, some of these moms have never worked a job, and very few men tend to marry a women with children, even fewer when there are more than 1 child. Although this is sad, our country's population has increased a lot in the past and its going to worsen. so in bangladesh i dont believe the government should force birth control, but the right to demand it - its a matter of urgency. and sex education is important in schools/society.
poverty isnt on the rise or fall, but a rise in population leads to more people being in poverty. I am pretty sure you have heard of all the top full-mark scoring students in bangladesh each year. there aren't enough qualified public universities to take them all, so people who score below perfect score have to go to private university, or find work with a high-school certificate, which is near impossible. we all know grades are a small indication of a person's working capability, yet people who don't score perfectly can't study further if they don't have enough money. our schools/hospitals/public institutes is all understaffed, under-budgeted, and overall crap. our currency has seen inflation at above 5% and upto 15%, and that means our work has basically devalued itself to the international community's, and inflation rate is inconsistent, meaning that our currency fluctuates constantly. bad economy leads to corruption which leads to worse economy. and over-population is the catalyst.
i dont believe in governments forcing their people to use birth control, but demanding it is different, i am thinking that it means encouraging it.
i do believe that using birth control isn't abortion. in islam there are records of certain measures of birth control used and encouraged - i am not going to explain what they are since its a bit graphic.
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actually china and india deploy these process, china more than india. i dont believe goverment should have any say in it. but i do believe that small families are much better to manage, and leads to a better future for them.
and there is nothing wrong to talk about birth and the process. its a natural process - religiously and scientifically.
actually, sadly, bangladesh is suffering from over population. our ancestors didnt think that the small land is too small and bangladesh is the world's most dense country. as for poverty. cia factbook put it at 1995 - 36%, 2004 - little above 44%, 2011 - 30%, and unemployment rate at: 1995 - 2%, 2004 - 4%, 2011 - 4.8% .. cia probably gets it from the bangladesh government, which is semi-reliable.
if the facts above are true, than we have seen large amounts of poverty even with low unemployment. unemployment is counted based on number of people who can have a job, but doesn't have one. so basically adults, from the age 17 - 55, excluding people with disabilities, prisoners etc... so unemployment rate is low, but most people live in poverty, so working people aren't able to support the rest, or they earn very little. leads to the conclussion of over population. too many laborers, too much supply of people, and unskilled labor.
in bangladesh, its very common for dads to leave their children with their moms and the moms have to support them, some of these moms have never worked a job, and very few men tend to marry a women with children, even fewer when there are more than 1 child. Although this is sad, our country's population has increased a lot in the past and its going to worsen. so in bangladesh i dont believe the government should force birth control, but the right to demand it - its a matter of urgency. and sex education is important in schools/society.
poverty isnt on the rise or fall, but a rise in population leads to more people being in poverty. I am pretty sure you have heard of all the top full-mark scoring students in bangladesh each year. there aren't enough qualified public universities to take them all, so people who score below perfect score have to go to private university, or find work with a high-school certificate, which is near impossible. we all know grades are a small indication of a person's working capability, yet people who don't score perfectly can't study further if they don't have enough money. our schools/hospitals/public institutes is all understaffed, under-budgeted, and overall crap. our currency has seen inflation at above 5% and upto 15%, and that means our work has basically devalued itself to the international community's, and inflation rate is inconsistent, meaning that our currency fluctuates constantly. bad economy leads to corruption which leads to worse economy. and over-population is the catalyst.
i dont believe in governments forcing their people to use birth control, but demanding it is different, i am thinking that it means encouraging it.
i do believe that using birth control isn't abortion. in islam there are records of certain measures of birth control used and encouraged - i am not going to explain what they are since its a bit graphic.
Are you from Bangladesh? :)