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Title: Iran's controvertial nuclear ambitions
Post by: Saladin on September 12, 2009, 02:49:00 am
Does Iran have a right to Nuclear weapons. I believe it does. What do you think?
Title: Re: Iran'c controvertial nuclear ambitions
Post by: X Abdulrahman X on September 12, 2009, 02:51:44 am
I believe it does to, if the US wants to decrease the number of nuclear bombs and stations they should start in their own country, thats why they are having this big fight.
By the way this is in the wrong thread, but i liked the question  :P
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on September 12, 2009, 10:13:39 am
And israel should give up their nukes too.
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Post by: Q80BOY on September 12, 2009, 05:21:50 pm
everyone should give up nukes cause its mad !!

SF supports World Peace :) ;)
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Post by: nid404 on September 12, 2009, 05:23:47 pm
~PEACE~
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Post by: master786 on September 12, 2009, 05:46:28 pm
kill them all :d
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Post by: Q80BOY on September 12, 2009, 05:47:05 pm
kill them all :d

so much for the 5 minutes of world peace :P lol
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Post by: Zain-Xa on September 12, 2009, 06:59:20 pm
peace alll the wwaaaaaaayy :P

Title: Re: Iran'c controvertial nuclear ambitions
Post by: Saladin on September 13, 2009, 10:03:04 pm
Peace is not anything material, it is a mixture of feeling, emotion and freedom. Yet, men have tried hard both to avoid it and achieve. But do we actually know what peace is?

I believe that Iran has every right to both nuclear power and weapons, as even if Iran was to hit Israel, Israel has patriot missile protection. Furhtermore, Israel needs to be demiliterised, as these heinous people are selling dead palestinian organs.

Not only this, they have abused Palestinian Muslims for Decades....

I believe Israel should give up its Weapons, America should take a harder stance on the country and Iran needs to calm down a bit.

One more thing....

America thrives on conflict, they need it to sell arms and ammunition. They have spent so much on this that they need to fully utilise their weapons as now, its more of an economic war for nations of the world. So why would they want peace?? To sell as few chicken sausages, no way! Where they get 9 million dollars for a single missle sold, they could not get that much money selling 9 million chicken franks....
Title: Re: Iran's controvertial nuclear ambitions
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on September 14, 2009, 07:30:57 am
Killemall is a well known phrase painted on the front of a us soldier's helmet.
Title: Re: Iran's controvertial nuclear ambitions
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on September 14, 2009, 07:34:49 am
It is strange about iran. They have never sent soldiers abroad. Never attacked another country. The us is still in a bad mood after being humiliated during the revolution.
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Post by: nid404 on September 14, 2009, 08:04:28 am
Peace is not anything material, it is a mixture of feeling, emotion and freedom. Yet, men have tried hard both to avoid it and achieve. But do we actually know what peace is?

I believe that Iran has every right to both nuclear power and weapons, as even if Iran was to hit Israel, Israel has patriot missile protection. Furhtermore, Israel needs to be demiliterised, as these heinous people are selling dead palestinian organs.

Not only this, they have abused Palestinian Muslims for Decades....

I believe Israel should give up its Weapons, America should take a harder stance on the country and Iran needs to calm down a bit.

One more thing....

America thrives on conflict, they need it to sell arms and ammunition. They have spent so much on this that they need to fully utilise their weapons as now, its more of an economic war for nations of the world. So why would they want peace?? To sell as few chicken sausages, no way! Where they get 9 million dollars for a single missle sold, they could not get that much money selling 9 million chicken franks....

Israel is a small country and it is home to the majority of Jews(which is not a big number)....It is surrounded by Islamic countries where they'd initially fled from...it needs something to protect it's people...this is what it can do i guess..
Jews are a minority...let them live..If they didn't fight the Hamas(declared terrorist group by US,Israel and EU), the small land they have would be gone too..
Collateral damage happens, can't avoid it...I know it's sad but...
Title: Re: Iran's controvertial nuclear ambitions
Post by: Saladin on September 14, 2009, 02:35:28 pm
Just cuz they are a dying race does not mean they can take a lives of millions with them...

This is simply illogical.
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on September 14, 2009, 03:18:21 pm
The jews are a bitter people and bitter people have no future
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Post by: Q80BOY on September 14, 2009, 03:19:56 pm
The jews are a bitter people and bitter people have no future

they had no future .. and will never have a future !!
Title: Re: Iran's controvertial nuclear ambitions
Post by: Saladin on September 14, 2009, 03:21:35 pm
I agree wid astar 100%, cuz they are not going to take peace, they simply want to be more powerful. They did not have a right to come to the middle east in the first place.

And even jews have ethics, thw Israelis are not even jews, I dont think in the Holy book it says that the murdering of innocent palestinians can ever be justified. And I persoanlly believe that the West have attacked Islam becasue of these Israelis, I never will beieve that Jews are bad people, but the Israelis are horrible and heinous.
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Post by: Saladin on September 14, 2009, 03:22:44 pm
SF support justice.... not a forced peace which leaves palestine helpless and eventually make it a slum. Sorry  to double post, but I thought Q80 boy posted after me...
Title: Re: Iran's controvertial nuclear ambitions
Post by: nid404 on September 14, 2009, 03:39:45 pm
I see that hatred against Jews now.....this is what the jews fear-their future. People like you are threatening them....
I know 3 jewish families here in Mumbai....two of them are good friends and one is my dad's agent
I have known these families since I was a kid....they are not bitter people...very sweet people, very kind and helpful
And okay abt Jews not having the right to come to Middle east...lol...Jews fled from there(most of them), the little who are remaining face torture(and I know it). Jews were originally form Middle East...google it if you don't believe me.......it's all ok if the kings from middle east, moghuls invaded other countries but it hurts when some1 invades middle east...it's all fair??....they've driven the Iranis(parsis) and now are planning to do the same with the very little jews left.
Title: Re: Iran's controvertial nuclear ambitions
Post by: nid404 on September 14, 2009, 04:43:53 pm
they had no future .. and will never have a future !!

very mean....
Title: Re: Iran's controvertial nuclear ambitions
Post by: Saladin on September 14, 2009, 04:47:29 pm
Yes they were, they were the Bani-Israil tribe, but that it not the point, you do not become a jew just cuz ur documents say so, you become a jew by practice. If you think that killing innocent cilivians in Palestine is said in the Israel Holy book, you are wrong. So Israelis are not really jews, they have metamorphosed into something else. I personally know jews, but they would never kill palestinians. One great Jewish charity person in America said that what Israel was doing was unaccaptable.
Title: Re: Iran's controvertial nuclear ambitions
Post by: nid404 on September 14, 2009, 04:51:01 pm
Yes they were, they were the Bani-Israil tribe, but that it not the point, you do not become a jew just cuz ur documents say so, you become a jew by practice. If you think that killing innocent cilivians in Palestine is said in the Israel Holy book, you are wrong. So Israelis are not really jews, they have metamorphosed into something else. I personally know jews, but they would never kill palestinians. One great Jewish charity person in America said that what Israel was doing was unaccaptable.

When did I ever say I was supporting Israel?? I only said Israel wad defending but I don't agree with their way but just giving you an idea why it may be doing something like this...
I don't like wars...I'm sure nobody does
I said ~PEACE~
Title: Re: Iran's controvertial nuclear ambitions
Post by: Saladin on September 14, 2009, 04:59:05 pm
Self defence, look what they have done in the name of self defence....

Moderates never survuive Nid, because in truth they dont know who to support, on one side, you have self defence and on the other hand another country's self determination. Pick one....

Nobody likes wars nid, but its a part of human nature that they happen.

One more thing, sure the Israelis can come back, but you dont know the history behind this. Furthermore, you dont just barge into a region. The Israelis have planned the state of Israel for centuries.... It comes from the napoleonic era. SO dont tell me i dont know my history, tell me whether, Isreal has toe right to sacrifice another country self determination and another's freedom. I dont dislike jews, I hate Israel's feral attitude...
Title: Re: Iran's controvertial nuclear ambitions
Post by: nid404 on September 14, 2009, 05:22:26 pm
There's no picking any side.....this is debating dude...cummon!! I gave my opinion abt the issue...I can't support the Hamas, nor can I support Israel cause both are causing damage. It is extremely sad that civilians are facing the bullets not intended for them...and I condemn that.

P.S-I never said you don't know your country's history...I just said you could google my words in case you thought I didn't know your country's history
Title: Re: Iran's controvertial nuclear ambitions
Post by: Saladin on September 14, 2009, 07:12:30 pm
If you support Israel, all you will do is make palestinians angrier. This will lead them to support a$$es like the Hamas, whereas, if you support the palestinians, but stopping Israel's clampdown on their land and rights, you will be supporting them and not Hamas.

Its not a 2 sided thing, it has many sides.
Title: Re: Iran's controvertial nuclear ambitions
Post by: X Abdulrahman X on September 15, 2009, 12:36:27 am
hamas isnt bad m8, they also protect the palestinians and are doing a much better job than fati7, hamas stops new settlements and stops the isreali progressing through the land...
only thing i hate about them is how they and fati7 are killing each other and makes me very sad that brothers are killing their own brothers :l