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Title: Someone Explain me this Einstein Quote.Please
Post by: Freaked12 on June 26, 2010, 08:08:39 pm
The religion of the
future, Einstein had predicted, will be a cosmic religion. It will transcend personal God and avoid dogma
and theology.
Title: Re: Someone Explain me this Einstein Quote.Please
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on June 26, 2010, 08:21:19 pm
I think what he meant that science will show us the truth and make religion history.
Title: Re: Someone Explain me this Einstein Quote.Please
Post by: Freaked12 on June 26, 2010, 08:25:15 pm
I think what he meant that science will show us the truth and make religion history.

cosmic religion.What could be the meaning of this
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Post by: Saladin on June 26, 2010, 08:27:48 pm
He essentially said that there will be a religion that will be followed by everyone in the Universe, to avoid giving God a personality.
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Post by: dodi23 on June 26, 2010, 08:50:24 pm
cosmic religion.What could be the meaning of this

google it ::)
Title: Re: Someone Explain me this Einstein Quote.Please
Post by: Freaked12 on June 26, 2010, 09:16:14 pm
He essentially said that there will be a religion that will be followed by everyone in the Universe, to avoid giving God a personality.

What forces scientists to say such things. Are they observant of all things going around them ? or experimentation with the life forms gives them a clue as to what will happen in future?

That prediction is the most flawed prediction i have ever seen but i believe people will somehow try to fit it in some situation and make it look real like they do with nostredamus
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on June 26, 2010, 09:18:52 pm
I worship
Title: Re: Someone Explain me this Einstein Quote.Please
Post by: Freaked12 on June 26, 2010, 09:22:06 pm
I worship

now I worship her as well
Title: Re: Someone Explain me this Einstein Quote.Please
Post by: Alpha on June 28, 2010, 03:55:06 pm
The religion of the
future, Einstein had predicted, will be a cosmic religion. It will transcend personal God and avoid dogma
and theology.

Religion > Set of beliefs

Astar rightly explained, he meant that in the future, people will all be agreeing on a particular set of beliefs. With science progressing, assumptions will become facts. Cosmic religion, implying, nobody will have divergences in opinions. When science will have made everything crystal clear, it will be either you don't agree or you lost your senses.

Simple illustration: Far back in history, people believed the Earth was a flat mass, the Sun was a Dragon God, and the Sea was salty because a big giant had dumped its tears in it. But every of these beliefs has disappeared now, science has provided logic explanation to what we were unaware of.

It is believed people conceive of a superior power and cringe to it because they neither have understanding nor control on certain processes of life. Take now, we don't yet know whether the chicken or the egg came first. Even the theory of Evolution is not completely consistent.

What forces scientists to say such things. Are they observant of all things going around them ? or experimentation with the life forms gives them a clue as to what will happen in future?

That prediction is the most flawed prediction i have ever seen but i believe people will somehow try to fit it in some situation and make it look real like they do with nostredamus

Einstein was cunning, he never said he was talking about the near future or some more billions of years after.  ;)

But yes, we cannot deny. People follow religion because science is (still) flawed. Nothing is explained totally nor clearly yet.
Astrophysicists claim there is a high probability of having extraterrestrial life, but science itself has calculated: the probability of our own Earth sustaining life is 1/(10^40)= coincidence.

That's why some people believe in God... because they cannot believe in coincidence.
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Post by: Freaked12 on June 29, 2010, 04:43:01 pm
Religion > Set of beliefs

Astar rightly explained, he meant that in the future, people will all be agreeing on a particular set of beliefs. With science progressing, assumptions will become facts. Cosmic religion, implying, nobody will have divergences in opinions. When science will have made everything crystal clear, it will be either you don't agree or you lost your senses.

Simple illustration: Far back in history, people believed the Earth was a flat mass, the Sun was a Dragon God, and the Sea was salty because a big giant had dumped its tears in it. But every of these beliefs has disappeared now, science has provided logic explanation to what we were unaware of.

It is believed people conceive of a superior power and cringe to it because they neither have understanding nor control on certain processes of life. Take now, we don't yet know whether the chicken or the egg came first. Even the theory of Evolution is not completely consistent.

Einstein was cunning, he never said he was talking about the near future or some more billions of years after.  ;)

But yes, we cannot deny. People follow religion because science is (still) flawed. Nothing is explained totally nor clearly yet.
Astrophysicists claim there is a high probability of having extraterrestrial life, but science itself has calculated: the probability of our own Earth sustaining life is 1/(10^40)= coincidence.

That's why some people believe in God... because they cannot believe in coincidence.

science results in more questions, it will never find answers.
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Post by: Alpha on June 29, 2010, 04:44:19 pm
science results in more questions, it will never find answers.

And religion finds it better to fit one answer to all questions...
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Post by: Freaked12 on June 29, 2010, 04:46:23 pm
And religion finds it better to fit one answer to all questions...

depends on how you interpret the holy books.If you are engraved and you dont take logic into every equation, you will find God in everything
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Post by: Alpha on June 29, 2010, 04:47:53 pm
depends on how you interpret the holy books.If you are engraved and you dont take logic into every equation, you will find God in everything

No personality attacks.  :P

Every logic converges towards God. Does it not?  ;)
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Post by: Freaked12 on June 29, 2010, 04:51:42 pm
No personality attacks.  :P

Every logic converges towards God. Does it not?  ;)

True, all the unexplained questions do tend to point to a being who knows all.But then again, We are not sure yet. We are assuming no?
Title: Re: Someone Explain me this Einstein Quote.Please
Post by: Alpha on June 29, 2010, 04:52:52 pm
True, all the unexplained questions do tend to point to a being who knows all.But then again, We are not sure yet. We are assuming no?

So, religion is a science too then.
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Post by: Freaked12 on June 29, 2010, 04:56:26 pm
So, religion is a science too then.

more like guideline for science. But religion is based on interpretation, science is fixed and with proofs.
Title: Re: Someone Explain me this Einstein Quote.Please
Post by: Alpha on June 29, 2010, 05:00:26 pm
more like guideline for science. But religion is based on interpretation, science is fixed and with proofs.

Like you said guideline...

Science is proving what most Holy books have been talking about. Science gives proofs, I do not deny. But you cannot deny either that science also requires those proofs to be verified in turn.  ::)
Title: Re: Someone Explain me this Einstein Quote.Please
Post by: Freaked12 on June 29, 2010, 05:04:55 pm
Like you said guideline...

Science is proving what most Holy books have been talking about. Science gives proofs, I do not deny. But you cannot deny either that science also requires those proofs to be verified in turn.  ::)

They will be verified by religion?
Religion will never give you unity. Some scientists say the 6 days, in which the world was created ,mentioned in bible refers to 6000 days ,others think it is 6 million and minority thinks it means 6 billion.

I dont want to go to Quran because i would be walking straight into fire with all the Saracen mods
Title: Re: Someone Explain me this Einstein Quote.Please
Post by: Alpha on June 29, 2010, 05:07:02 pm
They will be verified by science*. ;)
Title: Re: Someone Explain me this Einstein Quote.Please
Post by: Alpha on June 30, 2010, 02:18:14 pm
They will be verified by religion?
Religion will never give you unity. Some scientists say the 6 days, in which the world was created ,mentioned in bible refers to 6000 days ,others think it is 6 million and minority thinks it means 6 billion.

I dont want to go to Quran because i would be walking straight into fire with all the Saracen mods

I glanced at yesterday's post. It disappeared today.  ;)
Title: Re: Someone Explain me this Einstein Quote.Please
Post by: Freaked12 on June 30, 2010, 05:42:25 pm
I glanced at yesterday's post. It disappeared today.  ;)

I need to be careful whenever alpha is around  :-\
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Post by: Alpha on June 30, 2010, 05:44:42 pm
I need to be careful whenever alpha is around  :-\

I fail to understand... you post and then, they disappear suddenly.  :)
Title: Re: Someone Explain me this Einstein Quote.Please
Post by: Freaked12 on June 30, 2010, 05:56:58 pm
I fail to understand... you post and then, they disappear suddenly.  :)

Habbit.

Title: Re: Someone Explain me this Einstein Quote.Please
Post by: Alpha on June 30, 2010, 06:00:13 pm
Well... Addiction. ;)
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Post by: $tyli$h Executive on June 30, 2010, 06:39:48 pm
future, Einstein had predicted, will be a cosmic religion. It will transcend personal God and avoid dogma
and theology.

I didn't quite understand myself.
Title: Re: Someone Explain me this Einstein Quote.Please
Post by: Alpha on June 30, 2010, 06:42:43 pm
Honest and to the point. :)
Title: Re: Someone Explain me this Einstein Quote.Please
Post by: $tyli$h Executive on June 30, 2010, 06:45:41 pm
Honest and to the point. :)


Thank you.  :)
Title: Re: Someone Explain me this Einstein Quote.Please
Post by: Freaked12 on June 30, 2010, 10:31:38 pm
future, Einstein had predicted, will be a cosmic religion. It will transcend personal God and avoid dogma
and theology.

I didn't quite understand myself.

i wish i was like you
Title: Re: Someone Explain me this Einstein Quote.Please
Post by: Alpha on July 01, 2010, 04:20:00 am
i wish i was like you

That's honest too.  ;)
Title: Re: Someone Explain me this Einstein Quote.Please
Post by: Freaked12 on July 01, 2010, 06:36:03 pm
That's honest too.  ;)

I wont let him take all the glory ..  :P
Title: Re: Someone Explain me this Einstein Quote.Please
Post by: Alpha on July 02, 2010, 01:44:22 am
Silly :P