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Title: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: Freaked12 on June 19, 2010, 01:58:36 pm
not that i am complaining but i do rather find the trend disturbing.

Is Dan Brown right that since males do not trust females in power they began hijacking religion as the only way to keep control of the masses and that due to the decreased role of women ,there has been a alot of increase in gender-fueled wars
Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: $tyli$h Executive on June 19, 2010, 03:28:20 pm
Males do not trust females in power? I don't agree. Females are continuously emancipated and earning their rightful right. The Bangladeshi prime minister is a female. Its not that, males always 'decide' everything. Believing that they do is not right. So many females hold superior positions. Just google it!

Gender fueled wars do not make sense. I don't see males going on war against females or vice versa. They tend to cooperate.

So, I don't agree with Dan Brown.

Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: Freaked12 on June 19, 2010, 03:31:52 pm
Males do not trust females in power? I don't agree. Females are continuously emancipated and earning their rightful right. The Bangladeshi prime minister is a female. Its not that, males always 'decide' everything. Believing that they do is not right. So many females hold superior positions. Just google it!

Gender fueled wars do not make sense. I don't see males going on war against females or vice versa. They tend to cooperate.

So, I don't agree with Dan Brown.


Bengali Prime Minister is a odd one out including the opposition leader.You cannot argue the same points for millions of women worldwide can you?
American President
Defense secretary
British PM
italian Pm
english Pm
Spanish PM
Russian PM
South American leaders

From defense secretaries to lower level officials males outnumber females 9 to 1 ?

And what about religion ?
Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: $tyli$h Executive on June 19, 2010, 03:37:18 pm
Males traditionally have held the superior positions. This is a fact. But this is now changing. I can give you some examples: Chairman of pepsico, De Beers group and many other big businesses. Changes take time!

I don't actually get the meaning of "Top positions in religion"? Do you mean the messengers of religion like Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) for Islam or Moses(PBUH) for Jews? But that is just the way Allah decided. Its completely up to him.
Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: Saladin on June 19, 2010, 03:42:26 pm
Bangladesh is a special case, a special breed of internal monarchical democracy.

Two parties are locked in a power struggle, and the leaders of these parties happen to be heirs to the predecessors.

Most countries, although give women a great deal of Freedom, such as America or Switzerland, they do not tend to give them the top seat, perhaps in fear of losing the rigid nature of society that most people have so far been accustomed to.

Often, woman activists are not fighting for equality, but rather dominance over their counterparts.
Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: Freaked12 on June 19, 2010, 04:24:40 pm
Bangladesh is a special case, a special breed of internal monarchical democracy.

Two parties are locked in a power struggle, and the leaders of these parties happen to be heirs to the predecessors.

Most countries, although give women a great deal of Freedom, such as America or Switzerland, they do not tend to give them the top seat, perhaps in fear of losing the rigid nature of society that most people have so far been accustomed to.

Often, woman activists are not fighting for equality, but rather dominance over their counterparts.

This is what i was asking
Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: Alpha on June 19, 2010, 04:47:42 pm
Because Eve saw the apple red and ripe, while Adam saw it was still raw.  ;)
Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: Freaked12 on June 19, 2010, 04:51:51 pm
Because Eve saw the apple red and ripe, while Adam saw it was still raw.  ;)
LOL


Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: nid404 on June 20, 2010, 04:38:51 am
I've always wondered why.  ???

Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: nid404 on June 20, 2010, 04:40:57 am
I don't actually get the meaning of "Top positions in religion"? Do you mean the messengers of religion like Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) for Islam or Moses(PBUH) for Jews? But that is just the way Allah decided. Its completely up to him.

How do we know what God wants? These positions are decided by man, not God.
Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: Alpha on June 20, 2010, 08:38:23 am
Bangladesh is a special case, a special breed of internal monarchical democracy.

Two parties are locked in a power struggle, and the leaders of these parties happen to be heirs to the predecessors.

Most countries, although give women a great deal of Freedom, such as America or Switzerland, they do not tend to give them the top seat, perhaps in fear of losing the rigid nature of society that most people have so far been accustomed to.


Heirs to the predecessors?

Can you elaborate on that please... I was always intrigued by the fact the Bangladeshi PM was a woman, similar for the opposition.


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Often, woman activists are not fighting for equality, but rather dominance over their counterparts.

I'm a girl, and I agree to what you just said.

To ponder: religion came into existence by men? And not women?
Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: Saladin on June 20, 2010, 09:00:55 am
Heirs to the predecessors?

Can you elaborate on that please... I was always intrigued by the fact the Bangladeshi PM was a woman, similar for the opposition.

Long story cut short, they are the wives or daughters of past influential Bengali leaders. Quite frankly they did not rise up the posts, simply when their husbands or fathers died, they ascended to the thrones of their respective parties.

Khaleda Zia was President Zia's (A powerful army general) wife. Sheikh Hasina was Sheikh Mujib's Daughter (Father of the nation). So essentially there was no rise up in ranks, they simply assumed the position that their family members left.

Bengali Politics is complicated by definition, you will not find any type of politics so vulgar.

For your second question. There is no logical explanation, as logic is flawed in the making.
Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: Alpha on June 20, 2010, 09:24:50 am
Long story cut short, they are the wives or daughters of past influential Bengali leaders. Quite frankly they did not rise up the posts, simply when their husbands or fathers died, they ascended to the thrones of their respective parties.

Khaleda Zia was President Zia's (A powerful army general) wife. Sheikh Hasina was Sheikh Mujib's Daughter (Father of the nation). So essentially there was no rise up in ranks, they simply assumed the position that their family members left.

Bengali Politics is complicated by definition, you will not find any type of politics so vulgar.

For your second question. There is no logical explanation, as logic is flawed in the making.

But they have no sons, brothers, uncles...?

And thank you for the explanation Dude.  ;)
+rep
Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: Saladin on June 20, 2010, 09:28:06 am
But they have no sons, brothers, uncles...?

And thank you for the explanation Dude.  ;)
+rep

Yes, Khaleda Zia has a son, who I believe is going to take her role.

Sheikh Hasina has a son, who is highly educated. But I believe his taste lies elsewhere, and he is not capable with leading Bangladesh.

And this type of Politics exists elsewhere as well. You look at Pakistan, you get Zardari who is Bhutto's Husband.

And the next in line to power in the party is Bhutto's son.
Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: Alpha on June 20, 2010, 09:30:06 am
Yes, Khaleda Zia has a son, who I believe is going to take her role.

Sheikh Hasina has a son, who is highly educated. But I believe his taste lies elsewhere, and he is not capable with leading Bangladesh.

And this type of Politics exists elsewhere as well. You look at Pakistan, you get Zardari who is Bhutto's Husband.

And the next in line to power in the party is Bhutto's son.

Yeah, I'd followed Benazir Bhutto's 'era' well.

So, bottom thought: Governments are monarchies now.
Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: Freaked12 on June 20, 2010, 12:04:05 pm
oh no
Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: Alpha on June 20, 2010, 12:18:04 pm
And the Mauritian PM is the only son of the Father of The Nation, Sir Seewoosagur Ramgoolam.

Thankfully, Navin has no legal child.
Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: elemis on June 20, 2010, 04:02:06 pm
How do we know what God wants? These positions are decided by man, not God.

The simple answer to that is this :

Considering God exists, then he just wants us to live clean and peaceful lives where we do not hurt each other.

Of course that is a wonderful CONCEPT that the world has yet to embrace.
Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: I'm a mistake - legalize abortion! on June 20, 2010, 04:07:12 pm
Why are top posts of every religion dominated by males ?

 I think Religion shouldn't have posts at all....

Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: Freaked12 on June 20, 2010, 04:23:49 pm
Why are top posts of every religion dominated by males ?

 I think Religion shouldn't have posts at all....



Unfortunately, the thing that really made islam different from other religions (direct relationship between God and Man) is now being hijacked by Greedy Imaams .
Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: elemis on June 20, 2010, 04:28:44 pm
Unfortunately, the thing that really made islam different from other religions (direct relationship between God and Man) is now being hijacked by Greedy Imaams .


Your wrong.
Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: I'm a mistake - legalize abortion! on June 20, 2010, 05:06:00 pm

Your wrong.

How is he wrong ?
Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: Alpha on June 20, 2010, 05:07:09 pm
How is he wrong ?

Yeah Ari, how.
Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: I'm a mistake - legalize abortion! on June 20, 2010, 05:07:54 pm
Yeah Ari, how.

You agree? ???
Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: nid404 on June 20, 2010, 05:08:50 pm
My religion also says there is a direct relationship between man and God...and that's exactly what I think it is...I know my prayers are being heard...
Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: Saladin on June 20, 2010, 05:09:48 pm
NO POSTS REGARDING THE DEBATE AND DISCUSSION OF RELIGIONS WILL BE ENTERTAINED
Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: Freaked12 on June 20, 2010, 05:14:39 pm
SOMEONE TOLD ME WRITING IN BOLD LETTERS MEANS YOU ARE SHOUTING. OR IS THAT ONLY FOR ME
Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: Alpha on June 20, 2010, 05:15:45 pm
NO POSTS REGARDING THE DEBATE AND DISCUSSION OF RELIGIONS WILL BE ENTERTAINED

Oh Dude, why do you always?

It comes... it does come. We are asking for clarification, not abusing any religion.  :-[
Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: I'm a mistake - legalize abortion! on June 20, 2010, 05:19:13 pm
Oh Dude, why do you always?

It comes... it does come. We are asking for clarification, not abusing any religion.  :-[

I think pretty much the same thing....

Because we are not abusing religion. We are looking for reason.....
Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: elemis on June 20, 2010, 05:26:18 pm
Yeah Ari, how.

Christianity.
Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: Freaked12 on June 20, 2010, 05:27:35 pm
Christianity.

Roman Catholics=NO
Protestants=Yes

mormons=little bit
Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: elemis on June 20, 2010, 05:29:38 pm
Roman Catholics=NO
Protestants=Yes

mormons=little bit

Tell me what makes you so sure that Christians DONT have a direct connection with God ?

What do you understand as the difference between those three sects named above ?
Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: Freaked12 on June 20, 2010, 05:34:53 pm
Didnt Protestantism began to form due to clergy's monopoly over roman Catholicism and that  Luther was particularly criticizing a common church practice of the day, the selling of indulgences.?
Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: elemis on June 20, 2010, 05:37:21 pm
Didnt Protestantism began to form due to clergy's monopoly over roman Catholicism and that  Luther was particularly criticizing a common church practice of the day, the selling of indulgences.?

Where the hell do you get this stuff from man ? That is complete BS.

Anyway, I am not going to elaborate or explain as debating over religion is against the rules.

Go to Wikipedia and read the PROPER reason why we have the Protestant and Roman Catholic church.
Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: Freaked12 on June 20, 2010, 05:41:48 pm
Where the hell do you get this stuff from man ? That is complete BS.

Anyway, I am not going to elaborate or explain as debating over religion is against the rules.

Go to Wikipedia and read the PROPER reason why we have the Protestant and Roman Catholic church.

Read the book world history by Nigel Kelly.
There was a reason i put that ?
Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: nid404 on June 20, 2010, 05:46:02 pm
Read the book world history by Nigel Kelly.
There was a reason i put that ?

Read the bible ?  ::)
Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: I'm a mistake - legalize abortion! on June 20, 2010, 06:07:35 pm
Read the bible ?  ::)

A little ;D..... But what's that got to do with this topic?

By the way,I belive Arsenal is correct. ;)
Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: Alpha on June 20, 2010, 06:09:08 pm
A little ;D..... But what's that got to do with this topic?

By the way,I belive Arsenal is correct. ;)

Because he is Arsenal?  :P
Title: Re: why are top posts of every religion dominated by males
Post by: elemis on June 20, 2010, 06:10:05 pm
A little ;D..... But what's that got to do with this topic?

By the way,I belive Arsenal is correct. ;)

Are you Christian ?