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Title: Chemistry doubt
Post by: acash09 on May 22, 2010, 05:37:41 pm
Hey friends, what happens when an impurity is present in a substance, does:


& when does ph increase or decrease?

e.g adding more water does what, not by neutralization. 

thanks, acash09
Title: Re: Chemistry doubt
Post by: WARRIOR on May 22, 2010, 05:55:15 pm
An impure subsance melts at a rangge BELOW THE MELTING POINT
                            boils at a range  ABOVE THE BOILING POINT

 ph gr8er 7 is alkaline .....ph  less than 7 is acidic  .

adding more water just makes somethin more DILUTE ..means less acidic/or alkaline
Title: Re: Chemistry doubt
Post by: J.Darren on May 22, 2010, 07:11:29 pm
An impure subsance melts at a rangge BELOW THE MELTING POINT
                            boils at a range  ABOVE THE BOILING POINT

 ph gr8er 7 is alkaline .....ph  less than 7 is acidic  .

adding more water just makes somethin more DILUTE ..means less acidic/or alkaline
Wait, I recall that back in 03 / 04 there is a reaction that involves Mg ribbon and acid, if you increase the volume of acid, the change in temp would decrease, same theory holds true for water, if it is a metal + water reaction, as we all know, salt and hydrogen is produced, yet the change in temperature would be smaller if greater volume of water is used. This is also a common question that appeared in Paper 6.

Kimo : Are you intended to compose a revision notes thingie for Physics P3 ?
Title: Re: Chemistry doubt
Post by: WARRIOR on May 23, 2010, 10:54:27 am
Wait, I recall that back in 03 / 04 there is a reaction that involves Mg ribbon and acid, if you increase the volume of acid, the change in temp would decrease, same theory holds true for water, if it is a metal + water reaction, as we all know, salt and hydrogen is produced, yet the change in temperature would be smaller if greater volume of water is used. This is also a common question that appeared in Paper 6.

Kimo : Are you intended to compose a revision notes thingie for Physics P3 ?
if u mean chemistry paper 3  ..yep!
Title: Re: Chemistry doubt
Post by: J.Darren on May 23, 2010, 11:14:22 am
if u mean chemistry paper 3  ..yep!
LOL my bad :D
Title: Re: Chemistry doubt
Post by: Black on May 23, 2010, 11:16:58 am
the multiple choice is on tuesday :( the paper 3 is in like 2 weeks 7th of june :D
Anyways my questions is for paper 1 (multi) do we need to knw the core material only or all of it(including extended)???
Title: Re: Chemistry doubt
Post by: holtadit on May 23, 2010, 02:50:13 pm
the multiple choice is on tuesday :( the paper 3 is in like 2 weeks 7th of june :D
Anyways my questions is for paper 1 (multi) do we need to knw the core material only or all of it(including extended)???

You have to know both.
Title: Re: Chemistry doubt
Post by: Ivo on May 23, 2010, 02:51:33 pm
You have to know both.

Oh, I thought for Papers 1 + 6 are aimed for Core curriculum.  That's why stuff like Condensation Polymerisation never comes up!
Title: Re: Chemistry doubt
Post by: nid404 on May 23, 2010, 02:56:33 pm
Yes, apparently it is based on the core syllabus. :-\ 
Title: Re: Chemistry doubt
Post by: J.Darren on May 23, 2010, 06:47:35 pm
Yes, apparently it is based on the core syllabus. :-\ 
Isn't that a good thing ??? :o
Title: Re: Chemistry doubt
Post by: cashem'up on May 24, 2010, 10:25:24 am
Isn't that a good thing ??? :o
well yea the mcq's are based on the core syllabus but every ppr tends to have few tricky questions which tests both......if u had done only core it  would look gibberish bt havin dne extended it makes sense....... otherwise it be funny if a core dude got A in ppr 1 and 6......nd then couldnt go above C in pp3 lolzzz :P
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chemistry doubt
Post by: red_911 on May 24, 2010, 10:39:13 am
hey plzz anyone explain me question 13 pp1 O/N 2009  ???
Title: Re: Chemistry doubt
Post by: Vin on May 24, 2010, 10:43:25 am
hey plzz anyone explain me question 13 pp1 O/N 2009  ???

which variant ??
Title: Re: Chemistry doubt
Post by: red_911 on May 24, 2010, 10:45:34 am
which variant ??

variant one
Title: Re: Chemistry doubt
Post by: Vin on May 24, 2010, 11:10:54 am
variant one

Ok remember when concentrated NaCl is electrolyzed:
First the solution contains Na+ Cl- and H+ and OH- (from water). The positive inos go to the cathode, and negative ions to the anode.

At the CATHODE
the H+ ions accept electrons, since it is less reactive than Na (always elements which is more reactive 'likes' to stay in the ionic form)
2H+  2e-  ---> H2

At the ANODE
the Cl- ions give up the electrons more readily than the OH- ions do.
2Cl-  -->  Cl2  +  2e-

what left in the solution is Na+ and OH- which combine to form NaOH

in your ques ..is 'D' .. the indicator solution turns blue at -ve as NaOH is produced .. Chlorine doesnt  show any change in presence of an indicator solution ;)

jus understand the concept ..
(http://content.answers.com/main/content/img/McGrawHill/Encyclopedia/images/CE221700FG0010.gif)
Title: Re: Chemistry doubt
Post by: red_911 on May 24, 2010, 11:49:36 am
Ok remember when concentrated NaCl is electrolyzed:
First the solution contains Na+ Cl- and H+ and OH- (from water). The positive inos go to the cathode, and negative ions to the anode.

At the CATHODE
the H+ ions accept electrons, since it is less reactive than Na (always elements which is more reactive 'likes' to stay in the ionic form)
2H+  2e-  ---> H2

At the ANODE
the Cl- ions give up the electrons more readily than the OH- ions do.
2Cl-  -->  Cl2  +  2e-

what left in the solution is Na+ and OH- which combine to form NaOH

in your ques ..is 'D' .. the indicator solution turns blue at -ve as NaOH is produced .. Chlorine doesnt  show any change in presence of an indicator solution ;)

jus understand the concept ..
(http://content.answers.com/main/content/img/McGrawHill/Encyclopedia/images/CE221700FG0010.gif)

lol...Thanks alot ... but y does the indicator solution turns blue only at -ve electrodde and not the whole solution ?
Title: Re: Chemistry doubt
Post by: Vin on May 24, 2010, 11:54:08 am
lol...Thanks alot ... but y does the indicator solution turns blue only at -ve electrodde and not the whole solution ?

good ques .. see in this question u hav to act smart .. i think i forgot to mention .. look at the options .. u now kno tht NaOH is produced so the indicator turns blue ..there are two options with 'bule/purple' A and B .. now see A .. at -ve 'red' is given which is not possible because no acid it produced during the reaction so u r left with D .. ;)
Title: Re: Chemistry doubt
Post by: nerdvictim on May 24, 2010, 03:21:36 pm
hey, between which elements can you find carbon in the reactivity series ?!  ???
Title: Re: Chemistry doubt
Post by: Vin on May 24, 2010, 03:23:38 pm
hey, between which elements can you find carbon in the reactivity series ?!  ???


LEARN it ! ;)
Title: Re: Chemistry doubt
Post by: nerdvictim on May 24, 2010, 03:32:26 pm
LEARN it ! ;)

:P i sure will! thank you  ;D
Title: Re: Chemistry doubt
Post by: Vin on May 24, 2010, 03:40:21 pm
:P i sure will! thank you  ;D

sure .. ;) your welcome
Title: Re: Chemistry doubt
Post by: The Golden Girl =D on May 24, 2010, 06:32:31 pm
Ok remember when concentrated NaCl is electrolyzed:
First the solution contains Na+ Cl- and H+ and OH- (from water). The positive inos go to the cathode, and negative ions to the anode.

At the CATHODE
the H+ ions accept electrons, since it is less reactive than Na (always elements which is more reactive 'likes' to stay in the ionic form)
2H+  2e-  ---> H2

At the ANODE
the Cl- ions give up the electrons more readily than the OH- ions do.
2Cl-  -->  Cl2  +  2e-

what left in the solution is Na+ and OH- which combine to form NaOH

in your ques ..is 'D' .. the indicator solution turns blue at -ve as NaOH is produced .. Chlorine doesnt  show any change in presence of an indicator solution ;)

jus understand the concept ..
(http://content.answers.com/main/content/img/McGrawHill/Encyclopedia/images/CE221700FG0010.gif)


 u said H2 goes to cathode , then y u said sodium hydroxide changes indicator to blue when it is at the bottom not even close to the +ve electrode
Title: Re: Chemistry doubt
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on May 24, 2010, 06:41:15 pm
Ok remember when concentrated NaCl is electrolyzed:
First the solution contains Na+ Cl- and H+ and OH- (from water). The positive inos go to the cathode, and negative ions to the anode.

At the CATHODE
the H+ ions accept electrons, since it is less reactive than Na (always elements which is more reactive 'likes' to stay in the ionic form)
2H+  2e-  ---> H2

At the ANODE
the Cl- ions give up the electrons more readily than the OH- ions do.
2Cl-  -->  Cl2  +  2e-

what left in the solution is Na+ and OH- which combine to form NaOH

in your ques ..is 'D' .. the indicator solution turns blue at -ve as NaOH is produced .. Chlorine doesnt  show any change in presence of an indicator solution ;)

jus understand the concept ..
(http://content.answers.com/main/content/img/McGrawHill/Encyclopedia/images/CE221700FG0010.gif)


it isnt concentrated, its aqueous .!!!
Title: Re: Chemistry doubt
Post by: Vin on May 24, 2010, 06:43:31 pm
it isnt concentrated, its aqueous .!!!



AADI U GAVE ME AN ATTACK !! ITS CONCENTRATED AQ. NaCl
Title: Re: Chemistry doubt
Post by: 8T on May 24, 2010, 06:50:01 pm
hi By the way below copper theres mercury Hg
i have a question mj 04 p1 q 30
why is the answer C?
can sum1 explain plz
Title: Re: Chemistry doubt
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on May 24, 2010, 07:01:12 pm
hi By the way below copper theres mercury Hg
i have a question mj 04 p1 q 30
why is the answer C?
can sum1 explain plz

the original is dilute NaOH because it has water in it...so say its pH is 10 (>7, because its alkali)

the distillate is water so pH = 7

the NaOH in the flask doesnt have any water left, so its concentrates that means its pH >10 (dilute NaOH)

thus , C
Title: Re: Chemistry doubt
Post by: rhea on May 24, 2010, 07:05:05 pm
hey can you tell me what colour chnages occur when universal indicator comes in contact with
hydrogen
oxygen
ammonia

and i thought acid /salt added to UI would not change the colour of UI.
right?
Title: Re: Chemistry doubt
Post by: 8T on May 24, 2010, 07:16:47 pm
UI in neutral solutions is green
in alkali blue if weak, violet if strong
in acid red & u do not test for gases with UI
Thanks A@di :)
Title: Re: Chemistry doubt
Post by: Vin on May 24, 2010, 07:17:12 pm
hey can you tell me what colour chnages occur when universal indicator comes in contact with
hydrogen
oxygen
ammonia

and i thought acid /salt added to UI would not change the colour of UI.
right?


hydrogen - no change
oxygen - no change
ammonia - blue/purple

yes it does .. right click and click view image


(http://www.jirvine.co.uk/Chemistry_GCSE/C2b/Universal_indicator_1.JPG)



(http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/ks3bitesize/science/images/universal_indicator.jpg)



(http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j00tesEfqjbaacV/Universal-Indicator-Strips.jpg)
Title: Re: Chemistry doubt
Post by: rhea on May 24, 2010, 07:25:17 pm
hydrogen - no change
oxygen - no change
ammonia - blue/purple

yes it does .. right click and click view image


(http://www.jirvine.co.uk/Chemistry_GCSE/C2b/Universal_indicator_1.JPG)



(http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/ks3bitesize/science/images/universal_indicator.jpg)



(http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j00tesEfqjbaacV/Universal-Indicator-Strips.jpg)

umm this means phenolphthalein is not an UI?
Title: Re: Chemistry doubt
Post by: 8T on May 24, 2010, 07:26:24 pm
Ofc not , just another indicator
Title: Re: Chemistry doubt
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on May 24, 2010, 07:27:27 pm
umm this means phenolphthalein is not an UI?

No it isnt.