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Teachers and Students => Debates => Topic started by: superduper2009 on May 17, 2010, 10:10:37 pm
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There's the question guyz... do u think 9-11 was a genuine terrorist attack..or was it an inside job...
to start off please watch the series of documentaries on youtube... by the name of ZERO --- here's the link to the first part
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-YqET96OO0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-YqET96OO0)
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an inside job
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on this topic m speechless but ya i feel it could be an inside job
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I really do think it was an inside job... and the fact that America hid all the interviews of the survivors of 9/11 in the official report makes me very suspicious..... similarly when the pentagon was hit ... the Impact hole that was made was far too small for a Boeing 757...
and the fact that Pentagon is one of the most if not the most heavily guarded area in the WORLD... The transponder of the aircraft could not have been turned off (airplanes can not fly without a transponder legally... the computers on-board cannot turn off the transponder)... And the transponder has a unique number or sumthing to identify it.... when the plane was hijacked (supposedly) the transponder id is automatically sent to the government bodies... and if pentagon recieved it ... then the second the plane entered the area near the pentagon...automatic defense missiles should have deployed and destroyed the aircraft...but nothing of the sort happened .....
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Crysta clear. It's an inside job. And anyone who thinks the opposite, is a fool.
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ofcourse an inside job!! jus wanted a reason to invade Afghanistan n prolly Iraq!! thts wht i think!
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NO doubt it was an inside job.....Soviet invasion of sfghanistan was the excuse for american troops to enter afghanistan and they trained and supplied the locals with weapons to fight the soviet union
Then when the soviet were defeated america decided to stay and the locals who were trained in warfare reacted against america and this was the excuse for the americans to stay in afghanistan
Now it is clear that Americas next targets are Pakistan and Iran.....
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I don't think there is any1 o SF who believes American Troops are in Afghanistan and Iran to Improve the country or the situation there....
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Inside job.
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Maybe...Maybe not
The point is people died and here we are blaming each other. I pity our world.
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This is a highly controversial topic, I was only 7 when this sad event happened, but over the years I went through many articles and books, and read both sides.
I came to the following conclusion:
Yes, maybe the USA did plan this with the Taliban, but:
(1) They did not expect this mess.
(2) They did not realise the amount of people they'll effect.
Bulono, you said they did this to invade Afghanistan. Why is this a bad thing? Afghanistan was completely ruled by the Taliban, and they did not give women their rights, and just treated them like pieces of furniture. After the invasion, then first lady, Laura Bush started a huge campaign to help these women. Joint with UK's PM Spouse then Cherie Blair they opened universities and encouraged education, and health in the country.
This in my opinion was a good thing!
On that morning, the first lady was on her way to the Kennedy library to give a speech, and the president was at a school. If they knew about it, why didn't they leave Washington? If they knew couldn't have they went on a state visit some where in Europe, and then come back? The fourth plane, flight 93, went down in a field in Pennsylvania after the passengers revolted. It was said that the plane would have hit the White House in Washington, the president and the first lady along with Condolisa Rice and the senior staff at the white house were underground, under the white house. If they knew why did they choose this place to hide?
If the sole purpose for this 'show' was to invade Afghanistan then it's unbelievable, no towers were blown up when Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990, they were simply more powerful and thought Kuwait was part of Iraq, so they invaded us.
No buildings were blown up when George Bush invaded Iraq, or should I say freed Iraq, if he didn't Saddam Hussein would have still been alive, and with Iran's Ahmedi Nijad they could have created another Hitler!
As nid said, thousands of innocent people were killed, whether it was the US. who planned this out, or Osama Bin Ladin, thousands of families have lost a husband, a wife, a son, a daughter, no one was expecting to die on this morning, they were all heading to work, like they did every single day for the past years.
PS. everyone has a point to view, that's the reason for a debate, nothing has to leave this board. ;)
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This is a highly controversial topic, I was only 7 when this sad event happened, but over the years I went through many articles and books, and read both sides.
I came to the following conclusion:
Yes, maybe the USA did plan this with the Taliban, but:
(1) They did not expect this mess.
(2) They did not realise the amount of people they'll effect.
Bulono, you said they did this to invade Afghanistan. Why is this a bad thing? Afghanistan was completely ruled by the Taliban, and they did not give women their rights, and just treated them like pieces of furniture. After the invasion, then first lady, Laura Bush started a huge campaign to help these women. Joint with UK's PM Spouse then Cherie Blair they opened universities and encouraged education, and health in the country.
This in my opinion was a good thing!
On that morning, the first lady was on her way to the Kennedy library to give a speech, and the president was at a school. If they knew about it, why didn't they leave Washington? If they knew couldn't have they went on a state visit some where in Europe, and then come back? The fourth plane, flight 93, went down in a field in Pennsylvania after the passengers revolted. It was said that the plane would have hit the White House in Washington, the president and the first lady along with Condolisa Rice and the senior staff at the white house were underground, under the white house. If they knew why did they choose this place to hide?
If the sole purpose for this 'show' was to invade Afghanistan then it's unbelievable, no towers were blown up when Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990, they were simply more powerful and thought Kuwait was part of Iraq, so they invaded us.
No buildings were blown up when George Bush invaded Iraq, or should I say freed Iraq, if he didn't Saddam Hussein would have still been alive, and with Iran's Ahmedi Nijad they could have created another Hitler!
As nid said, thousands of innocent people were killed, whether it was the US. who planned this out, or Osama Bin Ladin, thousands of families have lost a husband, a wife, a son, a daughter, no one was expecting to die on this morning, they were all heading to work, like they did every single day for the past years.
PS. everyone has a point to view, that's the reason for a debate, nothing has to leave this board. ;)
those are the 2 things that is going to leave this board
do u mind :P?
the movie green zone says alot about the INSIDE TYPE OF JOBS
but from most poeople i heard it was an inside job..but who am i to judge? and what difference does my opinion make? who knows 2mrw iran might nuke the mediteranean..
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LOL!! :P
why these two?
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dunno.. ::) find them funny expessions :P
remember when iraq was shooting? and the alarms used to go on evryday...and souq sharq got hit and stuff..adn teh jabriya place..
ouf scary days :-\ :-X and nuclear threats :'(
but we are alive and POSTING ARENT WE :p
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ooh you were in Kuwait when this happened? god they were scary days, teachers left, we had an extra long easter holiday, then no teacher at all and had to do with an old assistant! :P
but yeah .. we're still posting .. thank god for everything! ;)
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ooh you were in Kuwait when this happened? god they were scary days, teachers left, we had an extra long easter holiday, then no teacher at all and had to do with an old assistant! :P
but yeah .. we're still posting .. thank god for everything! ;)
born in kuwait :P
lol @ the teachers part :P yea but i stayed
it really scares me to think of it again..sound of the alarms once it starts id die just die to hear the safe 1 :P
and run and open the ktv1 lol
i wonder how teh iraqis felt at the beginng when americans invaded iraq and dropped bombs all night :O
jst watching those made me even much more scared..cruel world!
And now all countries have 10x more complicated weappons and mass distruction ..just 1 button could wipe us all.
makes me ask where is god in all of this mess? if im alive right now tht means hes defintly over here i guess :P
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ooh so you're kind off Kuwaiti :P
the i remember the first siren, it was friday, my dad was in the mosque and my mum was out, I heard it, switched on the TV, I was 9, my sis came to me, I told her I think Spider man is coming .. she looked at me, i will never forget the look, she was 5, i told her i was joking :P
i looked out the window, and my neighbors were out, looking up, then dad called, told me not to worry everything is fine, he was on the line until the thing was over ..
i knew something was wrong when he came back with a play station 2 and a new tv! we had a room set up in the basement with mattresses and a tv and a play station!
when i told him why not in the playroom on the 3rd floor .. he said it wont work over ground :P :P lol i still laugh at me believing his stories :P
we were young .. never knew what was happening around us, now that i read the war blogs made during this time, and some books and articles, im speechless, all this happened and i was in the middle of it?
i guess our parents didnt want us to suffer like they suffered in 1990
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ooh so you're kind off Kuwaiti :P
the i remember the first siren, it was friday, my dad was in the mosque and my mum was out, I heard it, switched on the TV, I was 9, my sis came to me, I told her I think Spider man is coming .. she looked at me, i will never forget the look, she was 5, i told her i was joking :P
i looked out the window, and my neighbors were out, looking up, then dad called, told me not to worry everything is fine, he was on the line until the thing was over ..
i knew something was wrong when he came back with a play station 2 and a new tv! we had a room set up in the basement with mattresses and a tv and a play station!
when i told him why not in the playroom on the 3rd floor .. he said it wont work over ground :P :P lol i still laugh at me believing his stories :P
we were young .. never knew what was happening around us, now that i read the war blogs made during this time, and some books and articles, im speechless, all this happened and i was in the middle of it?
i guess our parents didnt want us to suffer like they suffered in 1990
hahhaah spider man :P ..it wont work over ground lool :P
i was in the middle of it too :P but i dont kno wht happnds so i dontn really count :p
in 1990 all i kno is that i ask my bus drivers and taxi drivers..and they say the kuwaitis were treated badly but other nationalists wre treated well :/
but honeslty kuwait now is safe..i sleep safe..and u kno sometimes u cuold leave ur car open and go by a drink or leave teh windows open..unlike alto of countries..i love it here!..bas im sick of avenues and marina and stuff..thats why we have the summer and leave.. i guess poverty to its maximum didnt hit kuwait yet and people have CONSIIENCE OR CONSOISNESS ( DAMEER )
still i dont feel home tho EGYPT FTW!
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well yeah the Kuwaitis were abused, and the other nationalities were either took hostage to show lter in parades in Iraq etc. (like the British and the Americans) .. and the rest like the maids and drivers who were already here either left Kuwait or stayed and helped their families. Many maids were raped by the Iraqi soldiers!
yeah you can call it safe if you compare it to other countries, but it's not a beautiful world :P and yeah fun is limited kind off .. it's the malls and cinema on weekends .. cinemas censored and malls crowded!
but you get water sports in the summer which i enjoy .. and you get the desert and farms in the winter which i also enjoy .. thats it really .. its also nice cause we can fly to Dubai or bahrain for the weekend for a change you know? :P
and you want to feel like home, go to kheitan man! :P :P
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well yeah the Kuwaitis were abused, and the other nationalities were either took hostage to show lter in parades in Iraq etc. (like the British and the Americans) .. and the rest like the maids and drivers who were already here either left Kuwait or stayed and helped their families. Many maids were raped by the Iraqi soldiers!
yeah you can call it safe if you compare it to other countries, but it's not a beautiful world :P and yeah fun is limited kind off .. it's the malls and cinema on weekends .. cinemas censored and malls crowded!
but you get water sports in the summer which i enjoy .. and you get the desert and farms in the winter which i also enjoy .. thats it really .. its also nice cause we can fly to Dubai or bahrain for the weekend for a change you know? :P
and you want to feel like home, go to kheitan man! :P :P
loooooooooooooooool kheitan !:P alright enough :P
history talk after exams :P cya :P
could be a joke!..mara wa7ed s3eedy kan 3awez yerga3 masr bas ma3andoosh feeloos..yeroo7 feen ? kheitan hehe :P
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hahahaha :P
im serious .. when Algeria beat you guys .. there were riots there .. the pics in the newspapers looked as if they were from Cairo or something! :P they should relocate the embassy to Kheitan and you guys can have mini pyramids made up ..
again part of my presidential campaign! :P hahaha
LOL!!
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hahahaha :P
im serious .. when Algeria beat you guys .. there were riots there .. the pics in the newspapers looked as if they were from Cairo or something! :P they should relocate the embassy to Kheitan and you guys can have mini pyramids made up ..
again part of my presidential campaign! :P hahaha
LOL!!
we deserved toooooooo wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!
but whn we won algeria the time before it..the streets were ruled by egyptians !!! even the police were celbrating ( some of them ) :P
next time we won they were well prepared ..there was army on every corner of the street ! couldnt even use the tabla :'(
By the way most kuwaitis support the egyptians in african cups and stuff liek that
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well of course we support you, youre our brothers and we support all the arabs! your team needs a fitter coach that's it .. you got great players and a huge fan base!! ;)
oh you dont have wasta for the tabla then? hahaha wasta wasta!! :P
actually some of our police are just too stuck up .. before entering the crown prince game, i had a flag with me, they told me to keep it with them or theyll refuse my entry .. as iff im gonna stab the fans with a flag! ::)
LOL!!
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well of course we support you, youre our brothers and we support all the arabs! your team needs a fitter coach that's it .. you got great players and a huge fan base!! ;)
oh you dont have wasta for the tabla then? hahaha wasta wasta!! :P
actually some of our police are just too stuck up .. before entering the crown prince game, i had a flag with me, they told me to keep it with them or theyll refuse my entry .. as iff im gonna stab the fans with a flag! ::)
LOL!!
ll if champions league was in kuwait..the fans would enter naked :P
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ll if champions league was in kuwait..the fans would enter naked :P
ahahahahahahahaha!!!!! ;D ;D
imagine that!! :P
who do u support in Kuwait? Qadsiya? Al Arabi?
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ahahahahahahahaha!!!!! ;D ;D
imagine that!! :P
who do u support in Kuwait? Qadsiya? Al Arabi?
non :P chelsea ftw!
but yeah qadysiya cz we go there for sports day :P
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non :P chelsea ftw!
but yeah qadysiya cz we go there for sports day :P
hahaha :P but good choice!! theyre the only men!! ;) :P haha a huge qadsiya supporter here! :D
u got NES right?
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hahaha :P but good choice!! theyre the only men!! ;) :P haha a huge qadsiya supporter here! :D
u got NES right?
yea for the past years we used to go to qadsiya ..this year we went to salmiya..way smaller feild
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yea for the past years we used to go to qadsiya ..this year we went to salmiya..way smaller feild
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same here!!!
this year we went to Salmiya .. we thought it was nearer to our school .. then a student said it was cheaper.
i guess Qadsiya stopped schools from visiting then .. and yeah they had a huge field and great facilities .. inshala in a couple of years we'll have our sports days in Jaber Stadium :P haha
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okie nice talk about kuwait :)
oh and i support Qadsiya :D
but i still think its an inside job!
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oh yeah i apologize for diverting the topic, we're still debating the 9-11 attacks, were they an inside job, or a genuine terrorist attack?
Many of you think it's an inside job, give reasons!! .. i say it's not an inside job as much as it's a terrorist attack .. come on kids .. let's debate! ;)
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yeah i dont think anyone will debate now
tomorrow is our maths exam!
so i for one will inshaAllah start tomorrow :)
sorry but im exhausted
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Whatever happened has happened.
Like Nid said : people died and we are fighting over petty little things.
Did you know that the thousands of firefighters and volunteers are suffering from a variety of respiratory problems because of the toxic dust they breathed in.
Did you know that they have yet to receive any benefits from the government of the USA ? These people pulled dead bodies from the rubble and have been left scarred for the rest of their lives.
Instead of debating over whether it was an inside job or not (and how the hell would you know in the first place ??) we should be frigging saluting those men and women who risked life and limb so that the relatives of the dead could see the one last time before putting them to rest.
A few good men and women, thats all.
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first america needs to respect the lifes of others before getting any respect from them.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibPV5XtxqQQ....will u help the Americans if they had an attitude like this toward YOU....how come American army kills thousands of people and when the few relatives of those people retaliate against the Americans they are called Terrorists.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpcRrLLNd4g.....i dont support the taliban or any such group but its clear that American actions are forcing them to do what they do
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first america needs to respect the lifes of others before getting any respect from them.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibPV5XtxqQQ....will u help the Americans if they had an attitude like this toward YOU....how come American army kills thousands of people and when the few relatives of those people retaliate against the Americans they are called Terrorists.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpcRrLLNd4g.....i dont support the taliban or any such group but its clear that American actions are forcing them to do what they do
im speachless!
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first america needs to respect the lifes of others before getting any respect from them.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibPV5XtxqQQ....will u help the Americans if they had an attitude like this toward YOU....how come American army kills thousands of people and when the few relatives of those people retaliate against the Americans they are called Terrorists.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpcRrLLNd4g.....i dont support the taliban or any such group but its clear that American actions are forcing them to do what they do
You are a true ignoramus.
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You are a true ignoramus.
hmmm well maybe you can tell me who Taliban are and what is the reason behind their opposition towards America and its allies....
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wow! that hit me hard!
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and taliban... http://www.infoplease.com/spot/taliban.html
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hmmm well maybe you can tell me who Taliban are and what is the reason behind their opposition towards America and its allies....
Who? They are a group of muslim extremists who used to rule Afghanistan, caused a civil war, and treated the women as I previously said as pieces of furniture!
Why? They're against anything that's not muslim, as I said they're extremists, whackos! They think the US. and Israel are always planning and plotting plans against them, as if they care about Afghanistan! All they care about is the oil in the middle east!
Why are the US in Afghanistan now? to stop the terrorism this Taliban group are causing!!
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Who? They are a group of muslim extremists who used to rule Afghanistan, caused a civil war, and treated the women as I previously said as pieces of furniture!
Why? They're against anything that's not muslim, as I said they're extremists, whackos! They think the US. and Israel are always planning and plotting plans against them, as if they care about Afghanistan! All they care about is the oil in the middle east!
Why are the US in Afghanistan now? to stop the terrorism this Taliban group are causing!!
taliban dont treat their woman as pieces of furniture!!!
in Islam it is actually the way to treat woman
dude
woman cant go out without a male by her side!
is that haram???
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I am certainly willing to believe 3000 lives are worth a strategic interest in an oil producing country for America. America is no stranger to mass murder of it's own citizens. Indians have been massacred en mass throughout the history of the US
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taliban dont treat their woman as pieces of furniture!!!
in Islam it is actually the way to treat woman
dude
woman cant go out without a male by her side!
is that haram???
that's the extremists way!
you're a girl, if you were in Afghanistan you wouldnt be allowed to go to school, go to univeristy, work for your money, go out, you would have to be draped in heavy blankets (thats how Laura Bush described their abays - maybe they wear them heavy cause its colder than the middle east i dunno)
and Islam is a religion that wants peace and harmony, if theyre good muslims they wouldnt cause much mess everywhere would they?
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I am certainly willing to believe 3000 lives are worth a strategic interest in an oil producing country for America. America is no stranger to mass murder of it's own citizens. Indians have been massacred en mass throughout the history of the US
click here (http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0922041.html) for a list of the top 10 oil exporters and producers .. afghanistan is not on the list.
i can understand their freeing of Iraq, they caught Saddam, and are trying to make things work out, for oil, but why Afghanistan? why kill as you said 3000 people to invade afgahnsitan? i doubt it was some free time, donald rumsfeild and bush were not in the oval office playing battle wars when bush stood up an said, im sick of this, lets play it in real life! :P
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okay i agree on the university stuff and edcation but no mate
really, a woman shouldnt go out alone
and their aim is to increasethe respect that women get
thts how women earn their rrespect i believe
dont u think that that was how women used to live in the old days?
i think it probably is what we should be aiming for. But thats just me
and if u look around, in the avenues or whatever, the women there have no respect whatsoever!
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okay i agree on the university stuff and edcation but no mate
really, a woman shouldnt go out alone
and their aim is to increasethe respect that women get
thts how women earn their rrespect i believe
dont u think that that was how women used to live in the old days?
i think it probably is what we should be aiming for. But thats just me
and if u look around, in the avenues or whatever, the women there have no respect whatsoever!
then its not the womens problem..its the guys problem..
why do women have to pay the price?
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i really think a woman should be given the freedom to do anything, she can not be stuck at home!
what she wears, and what she says, is what she decided, you have brains, you know whats right and wrong, we cant demand hings from you!
and yeah that was how they used to live in the old days, you want to live in the old days? when the world is transforming into something new, we decide to stay back, we feel more comfortable in the old days, woman stay at home, cook our meals, and teach our kids, men go to work and get the money, boring life day in day out.
people visit the moon .. and we visit our neighbours on horse back? :P
if a girl chooses a dress, that she knows will not give her respect, then whos problem is that? she'll be judged by god, why should we do it?
many girls in Kuwait and the arab world are well mannered, dress accordingly etc. so not all of them are like that ..
even saudi opened their first non-sgregated univeristy, and our school here in Kuwait want to segregate the whole secondary school, is haj segregated? the main piligram in islam? is it segregated?
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i really think a woman should be given the freedom to do anything, she can not be stuck at home!
what she wears, and what she says, is what she decided, you have brains, you know whats right and wrong, we cant demand hings from you!
and yeah that was how they used to live in the old days, you want to live in the old days? when the world is transforming into something new, we decide to stay back, we feel more comfortable in the old days, woman stay at home, cook our meals, and teach our kids, men go to work and get the money, boring life day in day out.
people visit the moon .. and we visit our neighbours on horse back? :P
if a girl chooses a dress, that she knows will not give her respect, then whos problem is that? she'll be judged by god, why should we do it?
many girls in Kuwait and the arab world are well mannered, dress accordingly etc. so not all of them are like that ..
even saudi opened their first non-sgregated univeristy, and our school here in Kuwait want to segregate the whole secondary school, is haj segregated? the main piligram in islam? is it segregated?
PRESIDENT :-*
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then its not the womens problem..its the guys problem..
why do women have to pay the price?
ok look at these two scenarios
scenario 1
you're walking in the Avenues .. and 2 girls pass you, giggleing loudly, perfume scent already reached your brain, not wearing hijab, waering revealing summer dresses, what will you do?
sceanrio 2
you're still walking in the Avenues :P .. and 2 girls pass you, theyre chatting with each other quietley, you barely smell a wift of their perfume, wearign the hijab, jeans and a jacket, what will you do?
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PRESIDENT :-*
hahaha ashkurak! :D ;)
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okay i agree on the university stuff and edcation but no mate
really, a woman shouldnt go out alone
and their aim is to increasethe respect that women get
thts how women earn their rrespect i believe
dont u think that that was how women used to live in the old days?
i think it probably is what we should be aiming for. But thats just me
and if u look around, in the avenues or whatever, the women there have no respect whatsoever!
Its people like you who are destroying our world. I pity you; especially since you are a girl.
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Really sad to hear that from a girl...
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well okay convincing statements
right i know technology has increased and everything
but still, i think they should be told what is right
maybe taliban is being too harsh, i agree
okay women should have their own opinions.
but kuwait is a muslim country
and right now, we are giving the picture to the west tht even we dont care about our religion.
and thts wrong!
u r right about the pilgrimage though, i must agree
i dont gget the scenario part
am i supposed to answer?
oh and thank you ari, reall lifted my hopes back there.
so why cant a girl do what her religion tells her to do?
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ok look at these two scenarios
scenario 1
you're walking in the Avenues .. and 2 girls pass you, giggleing loudly, perfume scent already reached your brain, not wearing hijab, waering revealing summer dresses, what will you do?
sceanrio 2
you're still walking in the Avenues :P .. and 2 girls pass you, theyre chatting with each other quietley, you barely smell a wift of their perfume, wearign the hijab, jeans and a jacket, what will you do?
scenoraio 1
ill go like : dayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyymmmmmmmmnnnn!!!!!! then do those girls have parents :O hwo could they let them out like that
and say probably the mother is the father of the house ( u understand ) ..abooha msh ragel ya3ni
scenario 2
man its hot they should remove some of that dress theyr wearing :P ..nah jst kidding ..i
i wouldnt realise they were even there and we all get alon in peace!
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It all depends on the society ....in a western country its not unusual to see women wearing revealing clothes....but in muslim countries like afghanistan this doesnt happen....secondly there are no proper schools in Afghanistan from where people can get some basic education.....
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Religion gives freedom of choice. A woman can choose what to do and what not. Interpreting the holy book, i can see, is much of a trouble.
+ no religion into the debate....it's a rule plz
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scenoraio 1
ill go like : dayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyymmmmmmmmnnnn!!!!!! then do those girls have parents :O hwo could they let them out like that
and say probably the mother is the father of the house ( u understand ) ..abooha msh ragel ya3ni
scenario 2
man its hot they should remove some of that dress theyr wearing :P ..nah jst kidding ..i
i wouldnt realise they were even there and we all get alon in peace!
yes so the second woman got ur respect didnt she?
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no kstina the scenarios were meant for Kimo
scenoraio 1
ill go like : dayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyymmmmmmmmnnnn!!!!!! then do those girls have parents :O hwo could they let them out like that
and say probably the mother is the father of the house ( u understand ) ..abooha msh ragel ya3ni
scenario 2
man its hot they should remove some of that dress theyr wearing :P ..nah jst kidding ..i
i wouldnt realise they were even there and we all get alon in peace!
LOL!! look? then boys are not to blame, if girls dress and act like normal human beings, we'll all live in a happy world!
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well okay convincing statements
right i know technology has increased and everything
but still, i think they should be told what is right
maybe taliban is being too harsh, i agree
okay women should have their own opinions.
but kuwait is a muslim country
and right now, we are giving the picture to the west tht even we dont care about our religion.
and thts wrong!
u r right about the pilgrimage though, i must agree
i dont gget the scenario part
am i supposed to answer?
oh and thank you ari, reall lifted my hopes back there.
so why cant a girl do what her religion tells her to do?
kstina , i'm a girl livin in an Arab country .....just to let u know girls r highly respected by everyone in my family all my cousins , my dad, and my unlces ,well they highly respect me ..if u r sayin a girls place is the house i tell u that's wrong ! .. u r a girl , so u r defenitly gonna turn out to be a mom ..how can u teacher ur children stuff if u r not experienced in life cuz u were all the time at home ..... i feel like girls deserve to learn cuz they raise the coming generations
i totally agree with what Qboy said abt the scenarios ...
cuz i am always wearin my hijab and being covered and all and only get bugged by air head kind of boys !
i hope u think more abt it girl
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It all depends on the society ....in a western country its not unusual to see women wearing revealing clothes....but in muslim countries like afghanistan this doesnt happen....secondly there are no proper schools in Afghanistan from where people can get some basic education.....
there were not any schools when taliban were ruling, but after the invasion the US. ensured that there is:
they had schols built.
they had afgahn teachers fly to the US. to be trained, they flew like 10 teachers and these 10 trained another 10 in Afghanistan! Universities were built, you see education is the main thing to ensure a bright future, without it a country will fall to peices!
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phew looks like another 9\11 is going on here. girls cant we go back to original topic ;D
oh ya i do think there were many many inside jobs. i heard somwhere that the witnesses said that they heard bombing sounds from inside the building after the plane crushed(while the people were being evacuated).
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America can easily stop the growth of extremist groups by sending the forces back to America from Afghanistan and Iraq....i think this way both the local people as well as American people will be happy.......and if America really wants to help why doesnt it just invest in improving the life style instead of weapons and army....but its clear these are not the intentions of the American government........
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bulono the taliban dont want afghanistan to be a better place.
they want to live in the pre-historic times ... if the US. are only using weapons because they are used against them, just last summer when i was in the UK, over 10 british soldiers were killed there .. their helicopter was blown up.
i mean instead of thanking the US. you attack them, the US. helped Kuwait by kicking Iraq out, then they helped us back up again, and we thanked them and are now one of our main allies, I guess the US. are doing the same to afghanistan, but too many corrupted people there just dont want to get back up.
if anyone knows answer me please, why did the US. invade afghanistan if it was not to remove the taliban?
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America needed to hit someone, and nobody cared if they hit the taliban
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phew looks like another 9\11 is going on here. girls cant we go back to original topic ;D
oh ya i do think there were many many inside jobs. i heard somwhere that the witnesses said that they heard bombing sounds from inside the building after the plane crushed(while the people were being evacuated).
i really think that's inhumane, if the US. really helped to bomb the towers then they have no hearts, politics should never reach the limits of wasting thousands of lives.
and these consipracy theories have been going since day 1 of 9/11, we heard and we saw, but nothing was confirmed, and youtube videos really dont confirm anything so dont post links to these :P
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at that time there were 2 super powers in the world soviet union and America.....when soviet union invaded afghanistan America sent its forces to help the local people fight against the soviet forces....Americans were the ones who trained the local people but when the soviet left America declared the local fighters terrorists.....
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America needed to hit someone, and nobody cared if they hit the taliban
yeah but why? why did they want to hit someone? i doubt they'll waste so much money and time over something worthless ..
.. they had to be aiming or something .. maybe to avoid Taliban teaming up with Saddam and Iran? :-\
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCtb9nlV_20
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCtb9nlV_20
:O speechless again
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@Buluno Have you ever been to America ?
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i really think that's inhumane, if the US. really helped to bomb the towers then they have no hearts, politics should never reach the limits of wasting thousands of lives.
and these consipracy theories have been going since day 1 of 9/11, we heard and we saw, but nothing was confirmed, and youtube videos really dont confirm anything so dont post links to these :P
no offence but what u meant? i didnt get it ??? ???
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@Buluno Have you ever been to America ?
nopee....
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nopee....
Then how the hell do you know that ALL American/Western women wear revealing clothes ?
And by the way, it not a woman's fault if she wears a tight skirt and you start thinking about doing something to her, okay ? Its your sick/perverted mind that is at fault - NOT HERs.
So go get a life and stop ranting on and on about a country YOU have NEVER been to and Dont know a frigging thing about.
If anyone should be commenting about the USA; ITS ME !! Know why ? Because I have been there and actually MET AND TALKED to REAL Americans.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCtb9nlV_20
If George Bush was in on it wouldn't his people have made sure his story was? correct which is he was recounting. The fact he made a mistake makes me think its genuine. And he is the president of the united states, he knows everything before the news guys! This video does not prove anything to me, sorry.
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And to further my comment on this youtube video you provided, bush said he saw AN AIRPLANE .. not the first plane or the second plane! this just confirms this video is FAIL! :P hehe
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Theres been much discussion about Afganistan attack I see.
Well, the main plan of the US is to attack Pakistan through Afganistan. They're already fuelling up India against Pakistan.
Personally, I don't like Pakistan to be honest.
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WOW!!
so the US. blew up the two towers, and killed over 3000 people, to invade Afghanistan, they did that to be nearer to Pakistan, and now they're fueling up India against Pakistan. To invade Pakistan.
I don't think so!! :P hehe
Why do they want to invade Pakistan?
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what we write are just what we know and believe but the truth can be very different.....1 thing that is clear is that taliban 1 motivating force against America which is its actions in Iraq Afghanistan and its support to Israel...
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what we write are just what we know and believe but the truth can be very different.....1 thing that is clear is that taliban 1 motivating force against America which is its actions in Iraq Afghanistan and its support to Israel...
Why do taliban care if the US. are supporting Israel or Zimbabwea or even the maldives? Why can't we all stick to our own countries, and not bother blowing things up in other countries because theyre not a certain religon or theyre supporting someone else?
The US. is not a mental patient who invades countries out of thin air, something provokes them, if everybody put their hands in their countries and worked on improving their homes instead of caring about other countries, then the world would be a better place!
Was 9-11 an inside job? There's a saying in English, dont cry over spilled milk, the people are dead, the families are shattered, the memories are scarred, these 'conspiracy theories' should give it a break because all theyre doing is making it up .. posting parts of a speech and continuing the rest from their own imaginations.
What we have to focus on now is not to provoke the big guys, and if youre familiar to world poltiics I think we know who they are, Iran are playing around, sending threats that will even affect me in Kuwait. So what do we do? We dont go and blow up a car in there, we go and speak to the leader, if the leader is a whacko dictator who likes killing (Hitler, Stalin, Saddam) then we simply kill HIM and try to improve their countries.
The US. helped Afghanistan when they invaded, they helped Iraq when they invaded. Soldiers are dying too you know? it's not just the afghans and iraqis who are dying everyday!
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Why do taliban care if the US. are supporting Israel or Zimbabwea or even the maldives? Why can't we all stick to our own countries, and not bother blowing things up in other countries because theyre not a certain religon or theyre supporting someone else?
The US. is not a mental patient who invades countries out of thin air, something provokes them, if everybody put their hands in their countries and worked on improving their homes instead of caring about other countries, then the world would be a better place!
Was 9-11 an inside job? There's a saying in English, dont cry over spilled milk, the people are dead, the families are shattered, the memories are scarred, these 'conspiracy theories' should give it a break because all theyre doing is making it up .. posting parts of a speech and continuing the rest from their own imaginations.
What we have to focus on now is not to provoke the big guys, and if youre familiar to world poltiics I think we know who they are, Iran are playing around, sending threats that will even affect me in Kuwait. So what do we do? We dont go and blow up a car in there, we go and speak to the leader, if the leader is a whacko dictator who likes killing (Hitler, Stalin, Saddam) then we simply kill HIM and try to improve their countries.
The US. helped Afghanistan when they invaded, they helped Iraq when they invaded. Soldiers are dying too you know? it's not just the afghans and iraqis who are dying everyday!
Taliban invaded from no where ...they are the local people ...they are the people who have been affected by the actions of American army.....their are taliban in afghanistan and Iraq who want America to leave their country alone.....
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the families have died,families have shattered houses destroyed and u expect those affected to just sit back and relax....???
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Taliban invaded from no where ...they are the local people ...they are the people who have been affected by the actions of American army.....their are taliban in afghanistan and Iraq who want America to leave their country alone.....
If you read the news .. it's a car bomb in Iraq killed 20 people .. or a suicide bomber in Afghanistan blew up and killed 10 people, 30 critically injured etc.
They want the US. to leave so they can continue playing ..
.. Obama is leaving them alone gradually, he cant just pack up and leave, hes ensuring the place is secure, but is it?
and to answer your second post ..
WHY were families dead?
WHY were houses shattered?
WHY is the US. doing this?
Trust me its not fun, and the soldiers who come back from these army bases are just scarred for life, theyre socially changed, and different after killing all these people, they dont enjoy this!
But when Taliban blow something up .. they react .. if you think Taliban are angels, then why dont they stop the fighting? Its their country no? cant they just admit defeat and move on, let their country be governed and led to a better future .. why do THEY want to rule it?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW1-_JmXQt0..after so much suffering how do u expect them not to show their anger..
when no countries leaders are ready to help the people take it into their own hands and this is a normal reaction......
and it would be better to ask a Palestinian about why many Palestinians hate America.....
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If you read the news .. it's a car bomb in Iraq killed 20 people .. or a suicide bomber in Afghanistan blew up and killed 10 people, 30 critically injured etc.
They want the US. to leave so they can continue playing ..
.. Obama is leaving them alone gradually, he cant just pack up and leave, hes ensuring the place is secure, but is it?
and to answer your second post ..
WHY were families dead?
WHY were houses shattered?
WHY is the US. doing this?
Trust me its not fun, and the soldiers who come back from these army bases are just scarred for life, theyre socially changed, and different after killing all these people, they dont enjoy this!
But when Taliban blow something up .. they react .. if you think Taliban are angels, then why dont they stop the fighting? Its their country no? cant they just admit defeat and move on, let their country be governed and led to a better future .. why do THEY want to rule it?
i dont agree with the actions of taliban....many people die in pakistan because of their actions but we need to find their root ....why do they do it ...what motivates them to do it .....and i definetly want to eradicate them from our world....these people are spreading the wrong teaching of Islam....but i ask again what is it that makes them blow themselves up ,what makes do such things.....
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW1-_JmXQt0..after so much suffering how do u expect them not to show their anger..
when no countries leaders are ready to help the people take it into their own hands and this is a normal reaction......
and it would be better to ask a Palestinian about why many Palestinians hate America.....
Why do you keep posting youtube links ? What makes them so proof-worthy ?
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people are turning to violence in places where there are long standing unresolved political crises....what is the cause of this situation that we have in Palestine.....the crises was born after the first world war and look at kashmir the problem started in 1947 dont u think the people over their are frustrated with this long unsolved problem....
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i post youtube videos because u see videos that u dont usually see on tv
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i'll comment at your first post, showing how the israelis are torturing the palestinians, thats an ongoing debate mate, and if it was started here I would defintly not take part because its wrong and will only say its wrong, i cant argue anything. Palestinians should hate Israel and not America. If America supprts Isreal its non of their busniesses.
and i fully agree with ur second post .. and ask the same question .. why are they blowing up?!
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i post youtube videos because u see videos that u dont usually see on tv
but most of them are made by unproffesional people .. and contain made up stuff or stuff that is made to look bad .. not trusted source but as u said does contain unseen videos :)
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its wrong but they r doing it and we must stop them and show them the truth.....i think i have said it many times the basic reason are the military actions of America in Afghanistan and Iraq but this is not the way to react....do u know when soviet union invaded Afghanistan America funded Pakistan to motivate people to fight against soviet army....that is when people were called to do Jihad against the invaders that is the soviet army and these people were helped by america through Pakistan.....but later they got out of hand and this idea of Jihad was spread not against soviet army but against America because now their was only one foreign army in Afghanistan that was American army.....
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advice from me:
stop worrying bout 9-11 nd start stuying for your exams!!!!!! ;)
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What aboit this ten. The US blew up the twin towers, invaded afghanistan, iraq, only in order that the British people would feel the world to be such a dangerous place that their only hope of survival is to become the 51st state
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it wasnt an inside job.
Crazy terrorists :P did it ..
yes , the way americans dealt with it myt be rong but definitely not an inside job .
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_7x_RWxVJw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA34yagVDcc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkoMOeBH-zM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv1MIDF2XM4&feature=related
tell me ur views....3rd one is important...
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people are turning to violence in places where there are long standing unresolved political crises....what is the cause of this situation that we have in Palestine.....the crises was born after the first world war and look at kashmir the problem started in 1947 dont u think the people over their are frustrated with this long unsolved problem....
Get your facts right. The Palestinians started seeing their land disappear after WWII.
IT WAS IN 1947 that the nation OF ISRAEL WAS FORMED.
I WOULD KNOW !
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Get your facts right. The Palestinians started seeing their land disappear after WWII.
IT WAS IN 1947 that the nation OF ISRAEL WAS FORMED.
and we got independence YAY YAY YAY !!!!!!
sorry 4 posting out of topic but could stop when 1947 appeared :P
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Israel was formed in 1947 but the Jewish immigrants started coming to this land in 1904....from 1904 to 1914 40000 Jews had immigrated and then from 1919 to 1929 100,000 Jews immigrated to this land....from that time there was problem between Arabs and Jews immigrants....and the population kept on growing from 800,000 in 1948 to 2 million in 1958
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I think I will post here.