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Title: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on April 10, 2009, 05:20:09 pm
i need help in transport in plants
i do not understand the whole damn chapter
:@
can anyone explain me the whole chapter and ESPECIALLY the mechanisms of uptake
a link would be great too, if it is for IGCSE.
 ??? :'(
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: sweetsh on April 10, 2009, 08:38:47 pm
It really needs a great time and space...Why dont you ask your teacher??

I will try to find you some links
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: emi on April 10, 2009, 10:33:31 pm
im studying biology right now ,, and i will be glad to help .. i find it easy  .. but i dono how im at making others understand , 8D

if u have any specific question about the chapter tell me
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on April 11, 2009, 06:55:44 am
ok,
atleast explain me the mechanisms of uptake. (capillary action etc .... i do not u understand all that)
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: emi on April 11, 2009, 07:46:14 am
to understand u should be familiar with the terms , osmosis, water potential gradient .
i've scanned that page from my guide u can read it .   i don't think there is much simpler way to explain like they have it there ,, u read this and if u didn't get any part tell me ..

Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: XaM!! on April 11, 2009, 08:05:05 am
M havin problm in reproduction in plants......... Plz help....... :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: emi on April 11, 2009, 08:08:54 am
i haven't reached reproduction in plant yet ,, im in coordination .
but if u have any specific Question u can ask .
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: sweetsh on April 11, 2009, 08:09:45 am
Reproduction in plants in general ??

Please specify what do you want exactly so we can help
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on April 11, 2009, 09:51:50 am
it was someone else who wanted to know reproduction, not me



i know osmosis and all that
having problems with terms like "capillary action" "cohesion" "ahdesion"..
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: sweetsh on April 11, 2009, 10:08:17 am
Yes I know that I was asking 5428 ...

Anyway...Can I ask you, are you taking Biology 0610 or something else?
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on April 11, 2009, 10:29:03 am
yes i take biology 0610
and in the syallbus itself, i read this terms cohesion adhesion ...
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: sweetsh on April 11, 2009, 10:40:29 am
Wait a minute...I take Biology 0610....And I did my mock last week....Whats about the terms..??

In which page in the syllabus ?
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: saifalan on April 11, 2009, 11:18:16 am
Bios screwing u guys real good. Keep it up chaps.
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: sweetsh on April 11, 2009, 11:42:06 am
What do you mean saifalan ?
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: Wahab09 on April 11, 2009, 03:19:36 pm
You need to know a couple of things like:
Humidity decreases transpiration rate as there is more water vapour in the air than in the plant.
-Temperature increases the transpiration rate as the molecules gain more kinetic energy which help them escape.
- Light increases the rate also as the guard cells in the stoma are activated by light. So no light no water escaping..

Water and salts travel up the xylem
Amino acids and sugars travel from the leaf to all the parts of the plants using the phloem.

The mechanism of water uptake is simple..
The water travels from the root to the shoot due to the continues chain of water molecules being attracted by the hydrogen ions (H+).

Then all you need to know is the adaptation and functions of the cactus and of the water plant.. which is simple i'll explain it too if u want..

hope u understood something :)
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: Sue T on April 11, 2009, 03:39:31 pm
Whoever asked the xylem thingi question im gonna xplain in my own words
Imagine sipping juice through a straw. The straw is really thin so the water rises through it easily-imagine sippin the juice through a pipe. Its hard ryt? So that’s pretty much capillary action, which is weak - u see xylem vessels r thin so water rises up against gravity easily.
Now in the root cells, thers pressure due 2 accumulation of water. This forces water out of one cell and into the other so they reach the xylem vessels. That’s root pressure or turger pressure but its also a weak pressure. Now @ th top, in the leaves, water is being lost due 2 transpiration. They are fewer water particles up here and more down the xylem vessels so as u no in osmosis water particles move from a region of high water potential to lower water potential n the water potential gradient is created due 2 all these thingis.Voila!water moves up :p
Hope u understand :D
n By the way i dunno tht hydrogen ions thingi cn u xplain more pls?
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: Wahab09 on April 11, 2009, 04:15:56 pm
Sure :)
Whats water?
H2O right?
The hydrogens are bonded with the oxygen. So the hydrogen ions in the H2O will move up (as it is lighter than the O2) so it will automatically drag the oxygen with it.
I dno if that makes any sense to you :P
But thats the way.
Here it is in definition terms:
Transpiration creates a pulling force which pulls a continuous unbroken column of water up the xylem vessels. The water molecules are held together by forces of attraction. This creates a water potential gradient through the plant.

 ;)
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on April 11, 2009, 05:16:21 pm
i understood capillary action.

sweetsh
page 10
explain the mechanism of water uptake and
movement in terms of transpiration producing a
tension ('pull') from above, creating a water
potential gradient in the xylem, drawing
cohesive water molecules up the plant.

hmm
can anyone explain me cohesion and adhesion, and wat is pits in xylem

it would be good if someone has a summary of the whole topic.
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: Wahab09 on April 11, 2009, 05:41:47 pm
sgvaibhav
Non of the terms you mentioned you need to know for the Cambridge IGCSE exam this June. Trust me you just need to know how and stuff and i think Sue T and I have explained it clearly.
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: sweetsh on April 11, 2009, 05:50:06 pm
Yes exactly as Wahab said....Those terms are not included...

But you should know how the water moves along the plant from the roots till leaving the leaf by the affect of transpiration....

I will explain you whats meant by pits and everything about the xylem vessels after 3 hours if you can wait =)
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on April 11, 2009, 06:00:02 pm
lol i can
haha
:D


i have one sort of textbook (not exactly textbook, someone prepared this book)
it is quite inaccurate and wrong at times also.
but the good thing about it that it is more like a summary, that helps in revision.
should i scan and attach those 2 to 3 pages? (but i cant gurantee if the content is right)
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: sweetsh on April 11, 2009, 06:04:11 pm
No need ...wait for me about 3 hours from now...

And I'll tell you the name of my book as it is amazing concluding everything you need
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on April 11, 2009, 07:08:22 pm
which book do u have?
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: emi on April 11, 2009, 07:43:53 pm
as i know ,, the thing i posted is the only thing thats coming ,,
those things are not in the syllabus .


not in my textbooks neither my guides .
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: sweetsh on April 11, 2009, 09:05:22 pm
Sorry but I was studying chemistry.... :(

OKay now...
My book is Complete Biology for IGCSE by Ron Pickering...
http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/162144426

About the transpiration thing...let me explain it in simple words...
First thing...you have to know how the uptake of water and minerals occur in roots...They enter root hair cells by osmosis...As the water in the soil has a high water potential gradient than the cytoplasm of the root hair cell...Thats how the water enters...:D  Then,,,water crosses the living cells of the cortex by osmosis...It crosses the cell wall and cytoplasm of the endodermis...The cell wall of the endodermis contains a waxy material which makes them impermiable to water...So the membranes of endodermis cells select what sybstances can enter the xylem and to be distributed through the body of the plant... :D

Now part(2)...Transport in plants  8) You know that inside the plants there xylem tissue and phloem tissue...
Xylem tissue contains xylem vessels...to transport water and dissolved mineral ions...
Its walls are thickened by LIGNIN...its waterproof and prevent the cells collapsing inwards...
There is no cytoplasm or organelles inside..(which is a kind of adaptation) so there will be no obstruction to the flow of water and mineral ions...
NOW...the end walls are removed...cells join to form long hollow tunes calles xylem vessels...
**They have small holes in their sides called pits..When the water from the root hair cell arrive in the center of the root it goes into the xylem vessels through there pits...

Well the picture in mybook is very useful and I cant find a good picture to make you understand!!

Third thing...Phloem tissue...it contains sieve tubes and companion cells...Its adapted for transport of the organic products of photosynthesis(sugars as sucrose) and amino acids...This is called Translocation
Translocation is the movement of sugars and amino acids from source(where they were made)to the sink(where they are stored or used)
They have think cytoplasm-cell must remain alive or sugar transport stops..
There is no nucleus or organelles..so sugar flow is not impeded...
Pores in sieve plates allows sugars to pass from one cell to the next...
Companion cells doesnt transport sugars but carries out some life processes of the sieve tubes..... !!!

Now a little bit explanation about transpiration because im sure you got bored or maybe slept on the keyboard!!! :D
Transpiration stream is the flow of water through the plant to replace the losses by evaporation from the leaf...
As the water loss occur from the leaves...this reduces the pressure at the tops of the xylem vessels by transpiration.It becomes less than the pressure of the base,thats why water moves upwards..
1)Water uptake occur by osmosis(as I mentioned above)
2)water moves  up the stem in the xylem due to the tension caused by water loss from the leaves.
3)water moves from xylem to enter the leaf tissue down the water potential in the leaf tissues///
4)water evaporates into internal air spaces from the surfaces of leaf cells
5)water diffuses through stomata dow water potential gradient....

You may also know the leaf structure and how its adapted to reduce transpiration...

And the atmospheric conditions that affect transpiration...I think those are included in your textbooks and can be easily understood...

Dont forget how some plants are adapted to reduce water loss in diff. environments...(such as cacti,aquatic plants, and maram grass)

I hope I benefited you from this huge article!!! But I really wish you understand!!
Note: I attached a silly photo which shows transpiration very simply just to help you in studying...

Good Luck for you and Me...
sweetsh
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: ashgerrard on April 11, 2009, 09:12:03 pm
WOW
I reallly liked that!
I didnt understand the transpiration and transport of water until I read your post thanks
 :) :) :D
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: sweetsh on April 11, 2009, 09:15:18 pm
You welcome..!!  ;D

Well I didnt understand them for the first time..But after reading these things I became used to it...

But I really advise you to buy that book...Its amazing...From amazon or something..

P.s I tried to make it attractive by adding colours :) Haha!!

Enjoy studying...

Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: emi on April 11, 2009, 09:34:16 pm
thanks nice ,, but
i didnt get this part
"They have think cytoplasm-cell must remain alive or sugar transport stops..
There is no nucleus or organelles..so sugar flow is not impeded...
Pores in sieve plates allows sugars to pass from one cell to the next...
Companion cells doesnt transport sugars but carries out some life processes of the sieve tubes..... !!!"

wat do u mean by the must remain alive .. ? 
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: sweetsh on April 11, 2009, 09:39:00 pm
The cells inside this tissue must remain ALIVE not like the xylem...Because sugar wont be transported ...

They dont ask you about details more than that dont worry
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on April 12, 2009, 07:56:16 am
thanx for all those huge articles
i now understand how it all happens
:D:D
thanx man
the diag made me laugh, it was funny
hehe

this is ur 99th post, one more reach 100
happy 100th post
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: sweetsh on April 12, 2009, 08:00:55 am
Haha Thank you...:D :D

I hope you really understood..!!

Come and join me in studying for the chemistry ,,, :-\  Oh gosh I hate it  8)

TAke care!
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on April 12, 2009, 08:08:17 am
i want to buy this book and also dont want to buy, because i dont think it will make a huge difference as exams are so close.
cant find an ebook.
ebook is the best option.
astarmathsandphysics, can u help me find this ebook, Complete Biology for IGCSE by Ron Pickering and upload in freeetextbooks. please help me to search for this ebook.
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: sweetsh on April 12, 2009, 08:49:27 am
Well as you like at the end its your choice...

If astarmathandphysics could help you it will be great..

I dont know about the freetextbooks thing alot..
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: hyebyekadal on April 12, 2009, 08:51:25 am
wats so funny about the diagram?
nothing rong with it
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: sweetsh on April 12, 2009, 08:52:42 am
Who said so??

You can only use it to revise your information about transpiration..

It is not enough for the exam ofcourse
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on April 12, 2009, 09:19:39 am
congrats sweetsh, ur a five star global moderator
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: sweetsh on April 12, 2009, 09:21:57 am
Thank you  :D
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: saifalan on April 12, 2009, 11:20:32 am
Doing bad is not an option. I prefer books than ebooks. Buy anything u need to. Think u r the richest guy in the world and treat money like dirt. Or better yet buy a phtocopied version of that book.
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on April 12, 2009, 11:25:36 am
from where do i get a photocopied version?
someone has to have it, then only i can photocopy.
i would have brought it.
but now it wont be of great use, because exams are where close, and i wontto be able to take the most from it as i have to prepare for others also.
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on April 13, 2009, 05:07:09 pm
hmm.
doubts poping up
 :o :o :o :o

TRANSPORT in plants

1)am i right?
water in the cell moves from cell to cell
and from cell wall to cell wall
is there anything missing?

2)movement of water in leaf.
it enters leaf through xylem vessels.
now im little confused.
acutally i had a very nice diagram, which explained this movement completely, but i lost it and i am not able to recollect.


GERMINATION

i wanted notes for germination.
in germination, about the role of auxins.
    -everything about auxins (in phototropism and geotropism .....)        (plz scan and send)
    -the clinostat experiment (the seeds which are kept in a rolling jar)
plz my textbook does not have this, and i can see such types of questions in past papers
 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: saifalan on April 13, 2009, 05:54:13 pm
from where do i get a photocopied version?
someone has to have it, then only i can photocopy.
i would have brought it.
but now it wont be of great use, because exams are where close, and i wontto be able to take the most from it as i have to prepare for others also.
U definitely dnt have a blak market in ur city then. In Dhaka we got a place called Neelkhet and u can find almost evry illegaly photocopied books. And its fun buying books costing so low.
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: sweetsh on April 13, 2009, 06:21:54 pm
Well thats need alot!
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on April 13, 2009, 07:50:25 pm
ur lucky Saifalan.

sweetsh my question not answeredd
plz
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: sweetsh on April 14, 2009, 06:24:37 am
We will see if we can help
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on April 14, 2009, 08:05:05 am
I might have found this by now but have been typing up 3000 words using latex for one of my old students. She doesnt know how to use it. Sheer torture. Going to sleep for an hour before my 1st student.
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on April 14, 2009, 01:40:55 pm
i did not get anything
nothing went in my mind
 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: Tammy on April 14, 2009, 02:53:37 pm
uhh!! I have my biology mock tomorrow and it's so tiring... I have to study the whole book! Wish me luck  :)
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: sweetsh on April 14, 2009, 03:42:13 pm
Good luck
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: Tammy on April 16, 2009, 04:01:54 pm
Thank you  :D
I did really good, and it was easy for me..
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: sweetsh on April 16, 2009, 06:39:48 pm
Good for you
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: sweetsh on April 16, 2009, 07:51:15 pm
Well lets see Mr sgvaibhav's hard questions.
Plants again? Oh God! I hate plants. Okay.
Wait....

What did you mean by (water in the cell moves from cell to cell
and from cell wall to cell wall)? I didnot get it at all. Please tell me what you mean so I can help with that..

For germenation..Germenation? Auxins and those things are not about germenation ?! Its about sensetivity and movement in plants.
Listen, plants respond to a certain stimuli..What we are concerned about are light( photo-stimulus) and gravity( geo-stimulus) A growth response carried out by a plant in response to the direction of a stimulus is called a tropism..Easy for now?
A +ve response is a growth movement towards the stimulus and a negative response is a growth movement away from the stimulus. For example:
-a stem growing towards light is a +ve phototropism
-a stem growing upwards (away from gravity) is a -ve geotropism.
-a root growing downwards(away from light but towards gravity) is a +ve geotropism but a -ve phototropism
*Roots are positively geotropic:
-they grow into the soil which provides a source of water and mineral ions
-they provide an extensive system of support and anchorage for the plant
*Shoots are positively phototropic:
-leaves are in the optimum position to absor light energy for photosynthesis
-flowers are lifted into the position where they are most likely to recieve pollen. They will be held out into the wind or may be more visible to pollinating insects

NOW..! Auxins!
Phototropism is controlled by auxin..Auxin is simply a "growth substance"..
Here are some simple observations about it:
-if the tip of the shoot is cut off the shoot can no longer respond to stumuli.This suggests that the tip produces the auxin
-a shoot responding to a stimulus always bends just behind the tip. The auxin appears to travel from the tip(where it is made) to a region behind the tip(where it has its action)
-auxin can diffuse back from the tip and can be collected in blocks of agar jelly(allows the diffusion of auxin).These blocks can then allow the tip to resond to the light
-when shoot tips are exposed to light from one side auxing accumelates on the "dark" side of the shoot.The auxin is somehow affecting the growth of the dar side of the shoot.

Imagine now the sun light is distrbuted from all directions..the auxin will be prodeuced at the tip and diffuses slowly down the plant.Cells on both sides are affected equally and the shoot grows straight upwards.Got it?
But when the light comes from one of the sides only..the light reduces the concentration of auxin on the "light" side.The cells absorb less water and so swell less than normal.The light side therefore grows less quickly and the shoot bends towards the light.While the cells on the dark side recieve more auxin . they absorb more water and so increase the size more that normal. The dark side therefore grows more quickly and the shoot bends away from the dark i.e towards the light.

Now auxin thing in geotropism..you just have to know that when the pull of gravity occur..more growth substances"auxin"reaches the lower side..and stops it extending as much as the top side...
Take as a note that auxin inhibits(slows down) the cell growth in roots but stimulates(speeds up) cell growth in shoots.

NOW ANOTHER EXPLANATION IF YOU WISH:
Auxin is produced by cells at the tips of stems and roots. It speeds up growth ain stems.It slows down growth in roots.
Phototropism and auxin:
*When light comes from above auxin spreads evenly down the stem.The stem grows straight.
*When light comes from one side auxin spreads down the shaded side of the stem.
*Auxin makes stem cells grow faster.this causes the stem to bend towards the light.
Geotropism and auxin:
*If a plant is laid on its side auxin gathers in the lower half of the stem and root.
*Auxin at the root slows down the growth of root cells.The root curves downwards.
*Auxin at the shoot speeds up growth of stem cells.The stem curves upwards

Pay attention that both explanations should be taken into consideration, as both are so important. If you like print what I wrote and study it because its very useful.

About your last question about the experiment, from your understanding and knowledge of the above thing, you should be able to answer it. The rolling jar means that auxin will be spread on the whole of the plant equally and it will grow in a straight way. Study the notes above and still if you have any question please ask.

I hope you'll understand.
sweetsh
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on April 16, 2009, 08:14:00 pm
ur back

kool
i increased ur rep
:D ;D ;D

sry if i had  hurt ur feelings.
By the way i must say that
I HATE AUXINSSSSSS >:(
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: sweetsh on April 16, 2009, 08:16:47 pm
Well you hurt me a little bit  8) But its okay now. Before two days my REP was 12 now its 4 or 5 i dont know  :-\

Anyway did you get it? ihope so
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on April 16, 2009, 08:20:56 pm
yes i understood
because of you
thanx
:D :D :D

sry for that

even something is wrong with my rep.
it increased to 2 and suddenly decreased and increased and i dont know
i know that  it is 0 now
lol
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: sweetsh on April 16, 2009, 08:23:29 pm
Thats good when you need a question post it
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Post by: emi on April 16, 2009, 08:25:11 pm
wow sweetsh ,,did u type all that ?
i really appreciate it thought it wasnt for me ,, :D

ur awesome :)
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: sweetsh on April 16, 2009, 08:30:34 pm
Yes emii I did.
I should have answered it long time ago but I was busy.
Hope you benefit, you are welcome
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on April 16, 2009, 09:14:49 pm
yes i understood
because of you
thanx
:D :D :D

sry for that

even something is wrong with my rep.
it increased to 2 and suddenly decreased and increased and i dont know
i know that  it is 0 now
lol

There may be something wrong with the rep mod. Master786  who used to be admin one day saw his rep go up from 5 to 78, where it still is. Over night the number of his posts also doubled to 460.
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: sweetsh on April 16, 2009, 09:19:09 pm
weird thing
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on April 18, 2009, 10:41:47 am
if we pour auxin on our face, will plants grow then?
then we can make our own food on our face
 :-X
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: sweetsh on April 18, 2009, 11:03:14 am
Well I really dont know the answer sgvaibhav, I just have to ask my teacher. :P
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on April 18, 2009, 11:10:23 am
Make cabbages grow out of your nose.
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on April 18, 2009, 11:26:41 am
yuck
cabbages from NOSE!!!
uuggggghhh sick
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Post by: sweetsh on April 18, 2009, 11:30:14 am
oh guys stop talking  :-\
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Post by: saifalan on April 18, 2009, 03:47:59 pm
yuck
cabbages from NOSE!!!
uuggggghhh sick

Well then trim it. U must be looking disgusting.
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on April 18, 2009, 04:21:13 pm
everyone sounds sick
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on April 18, 2009, 04:25:37 pm
It is a well know fact that cabbages grown up your nose grow faster because of enhanced concentration of carbon dioxide and water vapour. There is also the advantage that they don't arrive covered in mud and you don't have to go shopping to get one.

IT'S HANDY IF YOU'RE HUNGRY!
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on April 18, 2009, 06:06:33 pm
wth is wrong
 ??? ??? ???
more sick stuff.
uggghh

ooooOOO but astarmathsandphysics is talking chemistry now.
O.o   C02 and water vapour hmmmmm
u sound interested.
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: sweetsh on April 18, 2009, 07:22:35 pm
I think..it was a topic about biology ONLY

Someone ask a question away from their sick topic ;D
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on April 18, 2009, 07:26:04 pm
its a matter of bioaccumulation actually or bimagnification.    (HAHA BIO STUDENTS CAN ONLY UNDERSTAND)
it was not so sick b4, but the concentration kept increasing, and its become more and more sick now.
ITs unstoppable now.

we can have stuff growing inside our stomach too, if we  put the auxins in our stomach, small and large intestine also.
we will never neeeed to grow food agin.
or there can be a forest fire in our stomach and we can blow up
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: sweetsh on April 18, 2009, 08:08:58 pm
Nevermind  8)
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on April 18, 2009, 08:31:03 pm
lol that made me laugh, and those sunglasses
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: sweetsh on April 18, 2009, 08:42:31 pm
Haha that was my point  :D

Go study =D  8)
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on April 18, 2009, 08:57:02 pm
i was playing on miniclip, now i will play elastomania.
even though i have IT p2 tom.
lol
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on April 18, 2009, 08:59:32 pm
good night to whoever is reading!
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: sweetsh on April 18, 2009, 09:02:16 pm
Good night and good luck
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on April 18, 2009, 10:32:47 pm
Anybody interested in the contents of the human stomach and combustion should realise that fire is only a self sustaining  chemical reaction where the activation energy is provided by the reaction. There have been cases of "spontaneous human combustion"m where apparently the contents of peoples' stomachs have spontaneously combusted, maybe in the same way that rotting food in the sun can catch fire suddenly. The whole body can burn so fiercely as to be totally consumed in spite of being 70% water.
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: saifalan on April 19, 2009, 06:15:08 am
Wohoa, I am getting dizzy with all of these nauseating details up my head.
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: sweetsh on April 19, 2009, 06:55:32 am
Oh gosh :-\
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on April 19, 2009, 04:04:46 pm
hhhaaha
:D

but an advantage is that during rotting, CO2 is produced, so it will act as an fire extinguisher.
:D:D
SIGN OF HOPE

but if are running or doing some heavy activiyty, then our muscle will respire anaerobically in that case due to absence of oxygen.
rotting in absence of oxygen produces methane(CH4) instead of CO2.
so now, ur fully charged up with methane.
and  if  there is even little friction, then
BOOM, THERE U GO

Mr. Paul is an good chemistry teacher also.
 :D ;D
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: sweetsh on April 19, 2009, 08:32:38 pm
Back to real biology.

Any questions students??!  :-\
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: emi on April 19, 2009, 09:55:51 pm
i had Questions in some past papers .. but i will post them later and separate since this topic is for Plants stuff ,, when i reach to solving past papers i will post it
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: sweetsh on April 19, 2009, 10:28:51 pm
yes please do.you can post them on the new topic 'IGCSE Help'
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on April 20, 2009, 07:43:17 am
ok lets get serious now!!
no doubts so far,
 but i am trying to look for an video which shows how these auxins cause bending.
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: saifalan on April 20, 2009, 08:06:18 am
Read abt auxin more than a year ago. Aint auxin a hormone that grows hair when u put it onto ur skin ??
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: past-papers on April 20, 2009, 08:13:19 am
Doubt it. Auxin causes plants to grow taller by elongating the cells. Try searching auxin in wikipedia or google.
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: saifalan on April 20, 2009, 08:32:19 am
I was being sarcastic   ::)
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: sweetsh on April 20, 2009, 11:42:49 am
Haha Im loving this forum more and more everyday. 8)

Anyway saifalan didnt you take biology IGCSE? Auxin as past-papers said is a hormone causing plants to grow taller by elongating the cells..
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on April 20, 2009, 11:47:27 am
ok   LAST FUNNY SENSELESS NON-SENSE  STUPID  IDIOTIC COMMENTING COMMENT

maybe he thought if he pours that in his hair, he will grow more hair. but he tried on his head and actaully

plants grew
removed all the nutrients from his brain.
de-nitrifying bacteria settled there.
there were few explosions

and at last the plants brain washed his head.

ok



NO OFFENCE!
JUST FOR FUN!



Time to get serious....
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: sweetsh on April 20, 2009, 11:49:02 am
Good idea. Its better we dig our heads inside books as our exams are not so far away.

Best of luck for everyone
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on April 20, 2009, 12:17:15 pm
Why doesnt somebody sell it then?
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: saifalan on April 20, 2009, 02:07:34 pm
Haha Im loving this forum more and more everyday. 8)

Anyway saifalan didnt you take biology IGCSE? Auxin as past-papers said is a hormone causing plants to grow taller by elongating the cells..

I had CIE Olevls Bio and Human Bio. Alahamdulillah got 91% and 96% in them. But I dnt knw why I hated reading about plants so much. And I still do.

N.B: I think I wuld be needing auxin to grow hair like Paulie too, I thnk I am going bald  ;D
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on April 20, 2009, 02:23:22 pm
Someone send me some auxin
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on April 20, 2009, 02:40:52 pm
lol everyone mistaken.

ANNOUNCEMENT!!
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Auxin is for plant growth, not for hair growth!

So u all have to find some other thingy for hair.



Saifalan, u dont look bald at all in the picture, so u dont need to chemicals.
i like studying about plants, but now i started hating them, because even though i know everything about them, it is very hard to write answers about them.

ANTi-AUxINetic
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Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on April 20, 2009, 02:45:17 pm
lol everyone mistaken.

ANNOUNCEMENT!!
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Auxin is for plant growth, not for hair growth!

So u all have to find some other thingy for hair.



Saifalan, u dont look bald at all in the picture, so u dont need to chemicals.
i like studying about plants, but now i started hating them, because even though i know everything about them, it is very hard to write answers about them.

ANTi-AUxINetic
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ahh font size and my rep not increasing
 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on April 20, 2009, 02:49:06 pm
Has anybody ever tried to grow hair with it? If not then I am willing to be the first.
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on April 20, 2009, 02:55:02 pm
its not for hair.
ugghh

it is a hormone only found in plants.
if u want it synthetically, go to shops and buy it.
it is called IAA (Indole Acetic Acid)
and then u can use them on ur lawn or farm for weedkillers.
 8)
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: saifalan on April 20, 2009, 04:03:06 pm
Wow, U guys r enlightening me so much ;D God bless ya
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: deba93 on April 24, 2009, 10:30:33 pm
 :)yes ur right u know ur biology very well :D
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on April 30, 2009, 02:45:12 pm
Alright
ANNOUNCEMENT


there is this enzyme, it is called ceullase [celluLASE]
it digests cellulose cell walls (which are present in plant cells [maybe juniors dont know thats why])
so now grass and plants are producers.they have highest energy
we take grass over here.
we cannot eat grass, because we cannot digest cellulose.
now what if we can insert cellulase in our stomach or in the ileum.
    thru genetic engineering, or somehow.
now imagine, we can eat grass straight, we will get loads of energy.
we will have lots of energy
:D


in the future, we guys might me eating  like cows? :S :o
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on April 30, 2009, 02:55:39 pm
Maybe not without major internal surgery cows have two stomachs.
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: emi on April 30, 2009, 02:58:30 pm
why would some one wanna eat some thing that got no taste ?
i bet cows dnt even have taste buds .

plus its not like grass is the only producer .. there are many other plants that can be eaten directly ?? right ?
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: saifalan on April 30, 2009, 03:17:44 pm
why would some one wanna eat some thing that got no taste ?
i bet cows dnt even have taste buds .

plus its not like grass is the only producer .. there are many other plants that can be eaten directly ?? right ?

Hav u evr eaten grass ?? I havnt eaten any yet so dont knw how they taste. ???
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on April 30, 2009, 03:21:10 pm
I have eaten grass. I thought it tasted sweet. I have never cooked it though. I think someone should.
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: emi on April 30, 2009, 03:27:05 pm
lol u;ve got point there
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: twilight on April 30, 2009, 03:39:49 pm
i'll try cooking grass after my examz .. ;)

ppl u really make me laugh .. the exams are getting everyone totally insane  :D
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on April 30, 2009, 04:47:08 pm
alright, then we can remove our taste buds.
whats the prob then?

if we got more better doctors,
then we can design another mouth for grass, which goes in 2nd stomach which might be called grass stomach.

lol


becoming serious, these jokes actually make learning fun, and help in revising stuff.
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: saifalan on April 30, 2009, 05:45:58 pm
And where do u put that other mouth ?? I realy cant find a opening in the human body that we dont need. Or r u an alien ??
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: emi on April 30, 2009, 05:52:38 pm
hey saif , whos the guy in ur dp ?  when ever i scroll some page my eyes fall on that icon
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: saifalan on April 30, 2009, 05:57:50 pm
If u r reffering to my profile pic, thats not me. Its a hollywood star named Bruce Campbell. He starred in Evil Dead.
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: emi on April 30, 2009, 06:02:08 pm
i see  :D
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on April 30, 2009, 06:56:00 pm
This new breed of cows cum humans, being able to more efficiently convert grass into poo than the grass-cow-human-poo cycle we have now, will be better able to exploit the earths resources. The new cow-cum-human super race, able to run faster, jump higher, eat more, will out compete both humans and cows until they are no more. And because their stomachs are hidden in their bums, everyone will think they are just very fast, very fat people.
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on April 30, 2009, 07:59:58 pm
i thought that was u saifalan
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: K_M on May 22, 2010, 03:19:16 pm
Hey i have a doubt.

Active Uptake is the movement of molecule of a substance against their concentration gradient (from lower concentration to high concentration). But how it is applicable to the absorption of mineral ions from the soil by the roots. Because obviously the soil has more mineral ions than the root.

Please explain this to me asap. I think ive misunderstood the concept.
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: ambitious94 on May 22, 2010, 03:41:09 pm
Whoever asked the xylem thingi question im gonna xplain in my own words
Imagine sipping juice through a straw. The straw is really thin so the water rises through it easily-imagine sippin the juice through a pipe. Its hard ryt? So that’s pretty much capillary action, which is weak - u see xylem vessels r thin so water rises up against gravity easily.
Now in the root cells, thers pressure due 2 accumulation of water. This forces water out of one cell and into the other so they reach the xylem vessels. That’s root pressure or turger pressure but its also a weak pressure. Now @ th top, in the leaves, water is being lost due 2 transpiration. They are fewer water particles up here and more down the xylem vessels so as u no in osmosis water particles move from a region of high water potential to lower water potential n the water potential gradient is created due 2 all these thingis.Voila!water moves up :p
Hope u understand :D
n By the way i dunno tht hydrogen ions thingi cn u xplain more pls?
Ur explanation is rlly good, except for the part where water moves up by osmosis. That's an incorrect statement, because osmosis is the movement of water particles from a region of higher concentration to a region of lower concentration through a partially permeable membrane there fore, the transpiration stream is not caused by osmosis, but due to the fact that water molecules are attracted to each other, so when they escape by transpiration, water is pulled up the xylem vessels. This was in my study guide. :)
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on May 22, 2010, 03:43:45 pm
oh wow, i remember this topic so well.......
memories :D


 active uptake is the movement of molecule of a substance against their concentration gradient (from lower concentration to high concentration)... but for absorption of mineral ions, i guess osmosis or diffusion is involved.
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on May 22, 2010, 03:51:42 pm
PEOPLE, CHECK PREVIOUS POSTS OF THIS TOPIC....
BEST MEMORIES EVER..
check from PAGE 4 ONWARDS :D :D :D





Well lets see Mr sgvaibhav's hard questions.
Plants again? Oh God! I hate plants. Okay.
Wait....

What did you mean by (water in the cell moves from cell to cell
and from cell wall to cell wall)? I didnot get it at all. Please tell me what you mean so I can help with that..

For germenation..Germenation? Auxins and those things are not about germenation ?! Its about sensetivity and movement in plants.
Listen, plants respond to a certain stimuli..What we are concerned about are light( photo-stimulus) and gravity( geo-stimulus) A growth response carried out by a plant in response to the direction of a stimulus is called a tropism..Easy for now?
A +ve response is a growth movement towards the stimulus and a negative response is a growth movement away from the stimulus. For example:
-a stem growing towards light is a +ve phototropism
-a stem growing upwards (away from gravity) is a -ve geotropism.
-a root growing downwards(away from light but towards gravity) is a +ve geotropism but a -ve phototropism
*Roots are positively geotropic:
-they grow into the soil which provides a source of water and mineral ions
-they provide an extensive system of support and anchorage for the plant
*Shoots are positively phototropic:
-leaves are in the optimum position to absor light energy for photosynthesis
-flowers are lifted into the position where they are most likely to recieve pollen. They will be held out into the wind or may be more visible to pollinating insects

NOW..! Auxins!
Phototropism is controlled by auxin..Auxin is simply a "growth substance"..
Here are some simple observations about it:
-if the tip of the shoot is cut off the shoot can no longer respond to stumuli.This suggests that the tip produces the auxin
-a shoot responding to a stimulus always bends just behind the tip. The auxin appears to travel from the tip(where it is made) to a region behind the tip(where it has its action)
-auxin can diffuse back from the tip and can be collected in blocks of agar jelly(allows the diffusion of auxin).These blocks can then allow the tip to resond to the light
-when shoot tips are exposed to light from one side auxing accumelates on the "dark" side of the shoot.The auxin is somehow affecting the growth of the dar side of the shoot.

Imagine now the sun light is distrbuted from all directions..the auxin will be prodeuced at the tip and diffuses slowly down the plant.Cells on both sides are affected equally and the shoot grows straight upwards.Got it?
But when the light comes from one of the sides only..the light reduces the concentration of auxin on the "light" side.The cells absorb less water and so swell less than normal.The light side therefore grows less quickly and the shoot bends towards the light.While the cells on the dark side recieve more auxin . they absorb more water and so increase the size more that normal. The dark side therefore grows more quickly and the shoot bends away from the dark i.e towards the light.

Now auxin thing in geotropism..you just have to know that when the pull of gravity occur..more growth substances"auxin"reaches the lower side..and stops it extending as much as the top side...
Take as a note that auxin inhibits(slows down) the cell growth in roots but stimulates(speeds up) cell growth in shoots.

NOW ANOTHER EXPLANATION IF YOU WISH:
Auxin is produced by cells at the tips of stems and roots. It speeds up growth ain stems.It slows down growth in roots.
Phototropism and auxin:
*When light comes from above auxin spreads evenly down the stem.The stem grows straight.
*When light comes from one side auxin spreads down the shaded side of the stem.
*Auxin makes stem cells grow faster.this causes the stem to bend towards the light.
Geotropism and auxin:
*If a plant is laid on its side auxin gathers in the lower half of the stem and root.
*Auxin at the root slows down the growth of root cells.The root curves downwards.
*Auxin at the shoot speeds up growth of stem cells.The stem curves upwards

Pay attention that both explanations should be taken into consideration, as both are so important. If you like print what I wrote and study it because its very useful.

About your last question about the experiment, from your understanding and knowledge of the above thing, you should be able to answer it. The rolling jar means that auxin will be spread on the whole of the plant equally and it will grow in a straight way. Study the notes above and still if you have any question please ask.

I hope you'll understand.
sweetsh

Sorry but I was studying chemistry.... :(

OKay now...
My book is Complete Biology for IGCSE by Ron Pickering...
http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/162144426

About the transpiration thing...let me explain it in simple words...
First thing...you have to know how the uptake of water and minerals occur in roots...They enter root hair cells by osmosis...As the water in the soil has a high water potential gradient than the cytoplasm of the root hair cell...Thats how the water enters...:D  Then,,,water crosses the living cells of the cortex by osmosis...It crosses the cell wall and cytoplasm of the endodermis...The cell wall of the endodermis contains a waxy material which makes them impermiable to water...So the membranes of endodermis cells select what sybstances can enter the xylem and to be distributed through the body of the plant... :D

Now part(2)...Transport in plants  8) You know that inside the plants there xylem tissue and phloem tissue...
Xylem tissue contains xylem vessels...to transport water and dissolved mineral ions...
Its walls are thickened by LIGNIN...its waterproof and prevent the cells collapsing inwards...
There is no cytoplasm or organelles inside..(which is a kind of adaptation) so there will be no obstruction to the flow of water and mineral ions...
NOW...the end walls are removed...cells join to form long hollow tunes calles xylem vessels...
**They have small holes in their sides called pits..When the water from the root hair cell arrive in the center of the root it goes into the xylem vessels through there pits...

Well the picture in mybook is very useful and I cant find a good picture to make you understand!!

Third thing...Phloem tissue...it contains sieve tubes and companion cells...Its adapted for transport of the organic products of photosynthesis(sugars as sucrose) and amino acids...This is called Translocation
Translocation is the movement of sugars and amino acids from source(where they were made)to the sink(where they are stored or used)
They have think cytoplasm-cell must remain alive or sugar transport stops..
There is no nucleus or organelles..so sugar flow is not impeded...
Pores in sieve plates allows sugars to pass from one cell to the next...
Companion cells doesnt transport sugars but carries out some life processes of the sieve tubes..... !!!

Now a little bit explanation about transpiration because im sure you got bored or maybe slept on the keyboard!!! :D
Transpiration stream is the flow of water through the plant to replace the losses by evaporation from the leaf...
As the water loss occur from the leaves...this reduces the pressure at the tops of the xylem vessels by transpiration.It becomes less than the pressure of the base,thats why water moves upwards..
1)Water uptake occur by osmosis(as I mentioned above)
2)water moves  up the stem in the xylem due to the tension caused by water loss from the leaves.
3)water moves from xylem to enter the leaf tissue down the water potential in the leaf tissues///
4)water evaporates into internal air spaces from the surfaces of leaf cells
5)water diffuses through stomata dow water potential gradient....

You may also know the leaf structure and how its adapted to reduce transpiration...

And the atmospheric conditions that affect transpiration...I think those are included in your textbooks and can be easily understood...

Dont forget how some plants are adapted to reduce water loss in diff. environments...(such as cacti,aquatic plants, and maram grass)

I hope I benefited you from this huge article!!! But I really wish you understand!!
Note: I attached a silly photo which shows transpiration very simply just to help you in studying...

Good Luck for you and Me...
sweetsh

Oh if ur reading this, than thanks again sweetsh =).....
i got A+ in BIO :D :D :D!~!
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: ambitious94 on May 22, 2010, 03:52:46 pm
Hey i have a doubt.

Active Uptake is the movement of molecule of a substance against their concentration gradient (from lower concentration to high concentration). But how it is applicable to the absorption of mineral ions from the soil by the roots. Because obviously the soil has more mineral ions than the root.

Please explain this to me asap. I think ive misunderstood the concept.
As the plant is absorbing mineral ions by diffusion, there is a build-up of these ions in the root hair cells, which causes the concentration of the mineral ions to increase within the root, above that in the soil. And as the root abosrbs more and more of these ions, their concentration in the soil drops. So obviously now the plant can't lose these ions by diffusion, so it continues uptake by active transport.
That's the concept I was taught. Hope you find it useful! :)
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on May 22, 2010, 04:28:03 pm
i want all mods and admins to read posts from page 4 onwards.....
its sick funny
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: K_M on May 22, 2010, 07:50:10 pm
As the plant is absorbing mineral ions by diffusion, there is a build-up of these ions in the root hair cells, which causes the concentration of the mineral ions to increase within the root, above that in the soil. And as the root abosrbs more and more of these ions, their concentration in the soil drops. So obviously now the plant can't lose these ions by diffusion, so it continues uptake by active transport.
That's the concept I was taught. Hope you find it useful! :)

Thankyouu it actually makes sense now!
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: SGVaibhav on May 23, 2010, 07:42:36 pm
so anyone going to 2nd mouth transplant which is conected to cellulase???
or anyone going for some auxins powder on hair ???
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: Ivo on May 23, 2010, 07:47:24 pm
Can water move into plants by active transport?  What if there's more water in cells than soil, surely water can still enter, but by what process?

Thanks in advance!  ???
Title: Re: IGCSE BIOLOGY------>TRANSPORT IN PLANTS
Post by: Syed Kazim on May 23, 2010, 09:20:44 pm
Can water move into plants by active transport?  What if there's more water in cells than soil, surely water can still enter, but by what process?

Thanks in advance!  ???

As I mentioned in the other thread, root hairs absorb water from the soil by osmosis. It is the mineral ions that are actively transported into the root..