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Title: urgent:what is dependent and independent in biology
Post by: forkasha on May 07, 2010, 11:50:27 am
i can't differeniate between them at all can anybody help????  :'( :'(
thanks in advance :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: urgent:what is dependent and independent in biology
Post by: sanity_master on May 07, 2010, 11:28:06 pm
as their names indicate, the "dependent" variable(on the y-axis) depends on the "independent" variable(on the x-axis).

for example, the rate of a reaction DEPENDS on temperature.
so the rate is dependent and the temp. is independent, as temperature increase, rate of reaction increase (not the other way around)

it might be sometimes difficult to identify the variables in paper 5 (A2), but eventually u can know them.
as in OCT.NOV 2007 p.5.......Question 2,a (ii) :: the dependent would be the REACTION TIME and the independent would be the CONCENTRATION OF CAFFEINE.


hope u got the idea =)

Title: Re: urgent:what is dependent and independent in biology
Post by: forkasha on May 08, 2010, 02:21:33 am
Thank u very much u have helped me a lot thanks thanks 2 infinty ..so how is paper 5 going with u ???
+++++++rep
u r the best
thanks??
Title: Re: urgent:what is dependent and independent in biology
Post by: sanity_master on May 09, 2010, 06:55:27 am
ur welcome =) if u have any other question, feel free to ask ;)

its somehow gd, i still have a bit of a problem with the statistical questions though, but not bad :D :)

wt subjects u taking this june?
Title: Re: urgent:what is dependent and independent in biology
Post by: Tammy on May 09, 2010, 07:29:16 am
Independant variable is the variable that you change in the experiment....
Dependant variable is the variable that changes because the Independant variable did

Example for the Beetroot experiment: For each time, we are changing the temperature to see the effect of temperature on the beetroot... so the independant variable here is the temperature
What changes when you change the temperature? The degree of redness of the testube does... so the dependant variable is the degree of redness
Title: Re: urgent:what is dependent and independent in biology
Post by: forkasha on May 10, 2010, 02:42:51 am
thanks @tammy :)
+rep
@stanity_master i  am better at the statistical part than the other bt over all i horrible in the whole paper
where are u taking ur exams
Title: Re: urgent:what is dependent and independent in biology
Post by: sanity_master on May 11, 2010, 07:07:37 am
im in jeddah, KSA...u?
Title: Re: urgent:what is dependent and independent in biology
Post by: forkasha on May 11, 2010, 08:47:51 am
same here
jeddah ksa which skool
Title: Re: urgent:what is dependent and independent in biology
Post by: sweetest angel on May 11, 2010, 09:33:33 am
guys oct/noc 09 2b-
can anyone plz xplain it?
Title: Re: urgent:what is dependent and independent in biology
Post by: forkasha on May 11, 2010, 09:39:02 am
give like an hour and i will answer u? :)
cus i'm not free at the moment
sorry
Title: Re: urgent:what is dependent and independent in biology
Post by: forkasha on May 11, 2010, 09:40:42 am
oh i forgot which variant 51 or 52
Title: Re: urgent:what is dependent and independent in biology
Post by: sweetest angel on May 11, 2010, 10:15:29 am
51 :)
thanks :D
Title: Re: urgent:what is dependent and independent in biology
Post by: Tammy on May 11, 2010, 10:58:31 am
thanks @tammy :)
+rep

No problem :)
Title: Re: urgent:what is dependent and independent in biology
Post by: HOUSE_MUSIC on May 11, 2010, 12:32:11 pm
am in jeddah too  :)   al-wadi international school   what about u sweetest angel & sanity master ?
By the way where nd when exactly is ur exam? and how will u revise cuz i finished the past papers (from sp07) nd i dnt know what to do now ?

sweetest angel: did u see the ms ?  if u ddnt here's the answer:

2 of:
1. ref. to adding sample to slide;
2. ref. to idea the sample is uniform;
3. ref. counting cells;
4. ref. to any detail of counting e.g. exclusions / number of squares;
2 of:
5. ref. to grid volume 0.2 mm × 0.2 mm × 0.1 mm = 0.004 mm3;
6. ref. to factor × 250 to estimate number of cells per mm3 / dividing by the
grid volume (0.004 mm3);
7. ref. to counting min.3 areas / slides and taking mean;
Title: Re: urgent:what is dependent and independent in biology
Post by: AndrewCedric on May 11, 2010, 02:05:47 pm
dependent= what u observe
independent= what u change

example--> The rate of photosnthesis is dir. prop. to co2 conc.

co2 conc = independent
rate ( time )= dependent
Title: Re: urgent:what is dependent and independent in biology
Post by: forkasha on May 11, 2010, 05:11:25 pm
thank u very much :)
+++++rep
Title: Re: urgent:what is dependent and independent in biology
Post by: sweetest angel on May 11, 2010, 05:15:20 pm
am in jeddah too  :)   al-wadi international school   what about u sweetest angel & sanity master ?
By the way where nd when exactly is ur exam? and how will u revise cuz i finished the past papers (from sp07) nd i dnt know what to do now ?

sweetest angel: did u see the ms ?  if u ddnt here's the answer:

2 of:
1. ref. to adding sample to slide;
2. ref. to idea the sample is uniform;
3. ref. counting cells;
4. ref. to any detail of counting e.g. exclusions / number of squares;
2 of:
5. ref. to grid volume 0.2 mm × 0.2 mm × 0.1 mm = 0.004 mm3;
6. ref. to factor × 250 to estimate number of cells per mm3 / dividing by the
grid volume (0.004 mm3);
7. ref. to counting min.3 areas / slides and taking mean;


yes I did see it. I just don't get point 6 of x250 factor?
Title: Re: urgent:what is dependent and independent in biology
Post by: HOUSE_MUSIC on May 11, 2010, 07:15:36 pm
forkasha: netime :D

sweetest angel: yea me 2, but u only need a total of 4 points so these are extra, u still ddnt tell me ur in which skool ?
Title: Re: urgent:what is dependent and independent in biology
Post by: sweetest angel on May 12, 2010, 12:17:51 pm
forkasha: netime :D

sweetest angel: yea me 2, but u only need a total of 4 points so these are extra, u still ddnt tell me ur in which skool ?

OXFORD Dubai :D. u??
Title: Re: urgent:what is dependent and independent in biology
Post by: sanity_master on May 12, 2010, 01:28:36 pm
in KMIS (al kon el motawara...) im home schooled but i take AICT there :D
Title: Re: urgent:what is dependent and independent in biology
Post by: MaNi_DaDuDe on May 12, 2010, 04:39:27 pm
Paper 5 this Friday guys! :(
Title: Re: urgent:what is dependent and independent in biology
Post by: HOUSE_MUSIC on May 12, 2010, 05:49:19 pm
am in AlWadi Intl. School, Jeddah, k.s.a

how's revision goin on ? there r only 6 exams to do (from 07), i did them, i dnt know what to do now ? plz help
Title: Re: urgent:what is dependent and independent in biology
Post by: Freaked12 on May 12, 2010, 05:56:48 pm
am in AlWadi Intl. School, Jeddah, k.s.a

how's revision goin on ? there r only 6 exams to do (from 07), i did them, i dnt know what to do now ? plz help

your examination centre is manarat jeddah?
Title: Re: urgent:what is dependent and independent in biology
Post by: MaNi_DaDuDe on May 12, 2010, 05:59:00 pm
Read the stats portion of the book again
Title: Re: urgent:what is dependent and independent in biology
Post by: HOUSE_MUSIC on May 12, 2010, 06:01:28 pm
no now we do the exams in our school (wadi)

Thanks but what will u do after reading it again nd again ... ?
Title: Re: urgent:what is dependent and independent in biology
Post by: MaNi_DaDuDe on May 12, 2010, 06:04:35 pm
no now we do the exams in our school (wadi)

Thanks but what will u do after reading it again nd again ... ?

make love. jk

erm, I'm going through reference books. They've pages with practicals in blue or yellow. Check out the old edexcel books for example. :)
that'll help you in planning.
Title: Re: urgent:what is dependent and independent in biology
Post by: HOUSE_MUSIC on May 12, 2010, 06:11:29 pm
i have no idea what ur talkin bout ! lol
can u give me a link ?
Title: Re: urgent:what is dependent and independent in biology
Post by: HOUSE_MUSIC on May 12, 2010, 06:19:54 pm
??
Title: Re: urgent:what is dependent and independent in biology
Post by: MaNi_DaDuDe on May 12, 2010, 06:46:42 pm
Hahaha.

I meant go thru lab work pages in Biology books.. Get it?
Title: Re: urgent:what is dependent and independent in biology
Post by: HOUSE_MUSIC on May 12, 2010, 06:54:41 pm
i only have the CIE book
Title: Re: urgent:what is dependent and independent in biology
Post by: sweetest angel on May 12, 2010, 09:28:08 pm
i only have the CIE book

I only have some papers from school. There is those appendix though, I dont know a link for them but they just speak of experiment titles and stuff. Anyways revise for next exams while you got time, no point just sitting there. As for bio, Don't stress it, I think it'll be easy. After all its 30 marks!!
Title: Re: urgent:what is dependent and independent in biology
Post by: forkasha on May 13, 2010, 12:33:45 am
OMG me too KMIS :)
Title: Re: urgent:what is dependent and independent in biology
Post by: IG DUDE on May 17, 2010, 12:02:50 pm
OMG me too KMIS :)
lol im KMIS too wow the site is full of motawara ppl!
Title: Re: urgent:what is dependent and independent in biology
Post by: forkasha on May 17, 2010, 05:47:31 pm
i guess so :) :)
actually love that ;)