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Qualification => Subject Doubts => GCE AS & A2 Level => Sciences => Topic started by: cashem'up on April 19, 2010, 02:23:16 pm

Title: hey guys physics cie help .please
Post by: cashem'up on April 19, 2010, 02:23:16 pm
In an experiment, a radio-controlled car takes 2.50 ± 0.05 s to travel 40.0 ± 0.1 m.
What is the car’s average speed and the uncertainty in this value?..........

m getting 0.36 but markscheme says 0.4
Title: Re: hey guys physics cie help .please
Post by: *Hope* on April 19, 2010, 07:48:06 pm
oh this is in paper 1 right?
ok u see the minimum number of significant figures in the uncertainity is 2 (if u include the zeros)
so the actual answer is 0.36 but we must round to 2 s.f so we will get 0.4
hope i helped! ;)
Title: Re: hey guys physics cie help .please
Post by: Amr Fouad on April 19, 2010, 07:51:41 pm
Thanks lolo :)

+ rep. for helping others
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Post by: nid404 on April 19, 2010, 08:18:55 pm
ohh....so uncertainties always have to be 2sf....i wsn;t aware of that either. :o
Title: Re: hey guys physics cie help .please
Post by: *Hope* on April 20, 2010, 04:00:22 am
No it actually depends on the given values in the question but always round to the least number of s.f given in the question
Thanks for +rep ;D
Title: Re: hey guys physics cie help .please
Post by: cashem'up on April 20, 2010, 10:50:11 am
thanks but why i was shocked was in the mcq options there were both values 0.36 and 0.4 , and even in the ER the examiner mentions 0.4 but then if there is an option 0.36 shouldnt it be correct
Title: Re: hey guys physics cie help .please
Post by: Amr Fouad on April 20, 2010, 10:52:24 am
No way .36 is a correct answer..its not a rule to be 0.4..

check the s.f of the given in the question..all uncertainties to 1s.f..so shud be the answer
Title: Re: hey guys physics cie help .please
Post by: cashem'up on April 20, 2010, 10:57:28 am
hey one more doubt..........in w05 question  7 how would ya go abt doing this
Title: Re: hey guys physics cie help .please
Post by: cashem'up on April 20, 2010, 11:00:37 am
No way .36 is a correct answer..its not a rule to be 0.4..

check the s.f of the given in the question..all uncertainties to 1s.f..so shud be the answer

hey i agree but see da paper n da ER will upload for ya chek it out.........
Title: Re: hey guys physics cie help .please
Post by: cashem'up on April 20, 2010, 11:01:07 am
and its question 4
Title: Re: hey guys physics cie help .please
Post by: Nobody on April 20, 2010, 11:33:16 am
read this.... For Q.4 & answer is C

Accuracy is defined as, "The ability of a measurement to match the actual value of the quantity being measured". If in reality it is 34.0 F outside and a temperature sensor reads 34.0 F, then than sensor is accurate.

Precision is defined as, "(1) The ability of a measurement to be consistently reproduced" and "(2) The number of significant digits to which a value has been reliably measured". If on several tests the temperature sensor matches the actual temperature while the actual temperature is held constant, then the temperature sensor is precise. By the second definition, the number 3.1415 is more precise than the number 3.14.

Found it on internet..
hope i helped! ;)
Title: Re: hey guys physics cie help .please
Post by: cashem'up on April 20, 2010, 01:08:06 pm
hey nobody.....lol that kinda funny neways
yea thanks but i  mean i was question 4 to the 2nd paper the 1st paper i wanted Q7help thanks a ton newasy
Title: Re: hey guys physics cie help .please
Post by: Nobody on April 20, 2010, 01:31:16 pm
hey nobody.....lol that kinda funny neways
yea thanks but i  mean i was question 4 to the 2nd paper the 1st paper i wanted Q7help thanks a ton newasy

oh...my bad.. :-[
Title: Re: hey guys physics cie help .please
Post by: cashem'up on April 21, 2010, 10:19:01 am
hey can someone please clear these doubts thankx
Title: Re: hey guys physics cie help .please
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on April 21, 2010, 10:48:18 am
I also dont get 0.36 for question 4
Title: Re: hey guys physics cie help .please
Post by: nid404 on April 21, 2010, 11:07:29 am
I asked my sir, he said uncertainties cannot have more no significant figures than the value itself :-\
Title: Re: hey guys physics cie help .please
Post by: Amr Fouad on April 21, 2010, 11:12:30 am
I asked my sir, he said uncertainties cannot have more no significant figures than the value itself :-\

Thats what I exactly said
Title: Re: hey guys physics cie help .please
Post by: *Hope* on April 21, 2010, 05:35:24 pm
Does any body know what is meant by phase difference?? like the correct definition??
and what is the difference between path and phase difference?? ???
Title: Re: hey guys physics cie help .please
Post by: Amr Fouad on April 21, 2010, 10:36:50 pm
Does any body know what is meant by phase difference?? like the correct definition??
and what is the difference between path and phase difference?? ???

1) The phase difference between two particles along the wave is the fraction of a cycle by which moves behind the other. Usually expressed in terms of pie

2) Path Difference: Another method of expressing the path difference, but usually expressed in terms of of londa the wavelength.

Equation:
londa ----> 2 x pie

Then use proportion to find the missing term..

Eg: find the path difference when phase difference = 4 x pie

londa-----> 2 x pie
y------> 4 x pie

therefore y= 2 londa

Hope that helped :)
Title: Re: hey guys physics cie help .please
Post by: nid404 on April 22, 2010, 06:13:43 am
phase difference= 2pi/ lambda  X path difference
Title: Re: hey guys physics cie help .please
Post by: *Hope* on April 22, 2010, 06:39:22 pm
Thanks AF and nid
+rep :)
Title: Re: hey guys physics cie help .please
Post by: cashem'up on April 23, 2010, 09:45:15 am
kool thankx...... hey and can someone also help me out wid da other question mentioned on page 1...........please
Title: Re: hey guys physics cie help .please
Post by: halosh92 on April 23, 2010, 04:19:14 pm
oh this is in paper 1 right?
ok u see the minimum number of significant figures in the uncertainity is 2 (if u include the zeros)
so the actual answer is 0.36 but we must round to 2 s.f so we will get 0.4
hope i helped! ;)

how did u get the answer exactly could u show it step by step plz :)