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Teachers and Students => Debates => Topic started by: [Ash] on April 14, 2010, 08:18:15 pm
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Does life become meaningful as you grow older? Or does it get more meaningless?
what do you think?
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definitely more meaningful
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ofc life gets meaningful.when u were young the only thing u cared about was having warm milk and watching TV lol
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exactly. and when ur older, u realize that u dont have that much time left around and start appreciating life more
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life become both meaningful and meaningless
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explain how it becomes meaningless ???
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For some reason, life is much more complicated when u grow up...complicated is not a synonym to either of the words.....but that's what i think it exactly becomes..
I used to be much happier in my childhood days.....nothing to worry abt...play whole day and enjoy....no fighting with frnd,parents etc....things were so much different...If given a chance I'd like to relive to those days
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I dont understand why people want to grow up. Think about it; right now we have free food, accommodation, games, internet access and entertainment.
LIFES GOOD !!
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I feel adults (and even many teenagers) nowadays live much more hectic and stressful lives than is necessary. We may begin to appreciate life more with age and adulthood, but we won't have time to enjoy it until we're too old and tired to be able to properly... unless you win the lottery ;)
That is unfortunately the state of modern urban life... we work ourselves to death through school, university and our careers until there's barely any time left for anything else...
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For some reason, life is much more complicated when u grow up...complicated is not a synonym to either of the words.....but that's what i think it exactly becomes..
I used to be much happier in my childhood days.....nothing to worry abt...play whole day and enjoy....no fighting with frnd,parents etc....things were so much different...If given a chance I'd like to relive to those days
Same..i was thinking about this just a few days before.. everything is too complicated.. then we never even had to think twice before saying or doing something..
Now.. studies.. future coming too soon.. career.. :S
When i was a kid i was never confused.. and now look at me.. I'm confused about almost everything.. lol thats what teenage has done to me.. :-\ :-\
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Life generally gets better and (of course) more meaningful as you grow older.
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Nice discussion... :)
Life surely, does become more meaningful... But then, as we get to understand things better, we drown deeper in ignorance.
You get to know that there are so many things you don't know about. It gets more meaningful--- and more meaningless. :)
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alpha: knowing and accepting that u dont understand something is a rare knowledge in itself. gaining that should surely make life more meaningful.
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Maybeit... I'll call you Maybeit, your nick is far too long. :)
True knowledge lies in knowing that you know what you know and that you do not know what you do not know. Now, to accept it is a choice and to overcome it, is another.
What's meaning? Importance?
Many people, when they are at the threshold of death, realise the importance of life. And many others realise that they have actually wasted theirs... It's a pity.
I know it's a rare knowledge... But improving on what you do not know is a wonderful pleasure.
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no probs... i know its long
of course, its like 'u dont realize the importance of smthn till u lose it' and as we get older we are losing time
and plus, a lot of ppl dont have the luxury to improve their knowledge, or lack thereof
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Thank you. Maybeit ;)
What do you mean, luxury?
Where there is a will, there is a way. ;)
Where there is no door, we'll open the windows.
And when there are no windows, we'll jump through the roof. :D
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Hmm.. its true that it becomes meaningful but i think "ignorance is a blessing"
growing older means to get hold of the responsibilities slowly and gradually. Life with out and tensions, difficulties, with luxuries is more comfortable. In childhood we always wanted to grow big but now we have realized that broken pencils and unfilled homework was better than this.! :)
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Arre, just move on to life. Yes, child hood memories may be sweet, but its no use remembering them! ::)
For me, the present is much better than my childhood. May seem a bit odd to you though.
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Hmm.. Its okay. its up to you. i cant make you think like this.
But life gets tougher ... and at times you will look behind and cherish those shweeeet days! ::)
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Hmm.. Its okay. its up to you. i cant make you think like this.
But life gets tougher ... and at times you will look behind and cherish those shweeeet days! ::)
Look forward* :P :P :P ::) ::)
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Look forward* :P :P :P ::) ::)
no she actually meant look back on the old days ::)
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i do agree ash dat olden das and those memories are sweet when you do anything no one is ther to scold you or no one to sit on your head to make you study..:P :P :) :)
but even this is true that life is more meaningful only when you grow up when you get to knoe that it's not only you whom you have to live for there are many people whose heart beats are joined with you in some or the other way....!! right..??
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Arre, just move on to life. Yes, child hood memories may be sweet, but its no use remembering them! ::)
For me, the present is much better than my childhood. May seem a bit odd to you though.
Pause and turn back...
Life's not a waste.
Those who never remember the past are condemned to repeat their mistakes.
Life has much more to show, but you'll value it only if you appreciate what it has already given you.
There are happy moments to come, but they will never equal those that already passed.
Learn to search for and understand the 'why'. You did not live all the years, all the moments to just let it go away.
We never do good enough, turn back to improve on what you can do.
Keep walking... but do not forget where you had set off.
Be better, but do not forget who you were. The past is behind, let it not fade away. The future never lasts.
Pause... Look again at what you have done. Because at the end, nothing will remain, except you.
And your past.
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hey alpha...!!gr8;) well said i totally agree to you..!!:) those days are unforgettable
people say whatever you are right now it's all because of your past..!!;)
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hey alpha...!!gr8;) well said i totally agree to you..!!:) those days are unforgettable
people say whatever you are right now it's all because of your past..!!;)
Humbly welcome :)
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@alpha: when i say luxury i mean that some ppl know that theyre ignorant but some ppl cant do anything about that, lack of ppl who can help them and b4 u say they ought to help themselves, lemme ask u what an illiterate person could possibly do in a library full of books with universes of knowledge without someone to teach them how to read? there is no roof or and there are no windows theyre in a bulletproof safe. imagine being in that situation.
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The persons who wrote those books in the library did not learn from a book. :)
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then how could they possibly have written those books? books are the windows to the world
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Life becomes more meaningful with money, wealth and materialistic riches only. This is what I've been indirectly taught by my dad and what I've experienced as well. And I can add: It becomes meaningless and theoretical with philosophy.
pz.
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And I can add: It becomes meaningless and theoretical with philosophy.
LOL, Borakk. That was clearly for me! :D
Directly from one of my philosophical friends:
You are not wealthy until you have something money cannot buy. :)
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when your 80 years old and have cataracts three inches thick and cant walk and always pee on yourself what help does money give you? what meaning does it hold? life itself is philosophy. money and power are only accesories that are shed off after a small period of time. and when u die, ur money goes to a couple more ppl, is spent and nobody gives a sh*t about u as a person and what u were but as a source of income.
when you have a philosophy to live buy it will acho in those near you and echo and echo and echo far into the future.
that is meaning: to give meaning to those who come after you
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then how could they possibly have written those books? books are the windows to the world
Life is the door... Simple, they've lived. ;)
There were no books for them. Yet, they did it. They wrote the books.
It's like you say, we need cement to construct a house. But what about then when we had none?
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when your 80 years old and have cataracts three inches thick and cant walk and always pee on yourself what help does money give you? what meaning does it hold? life itself is philosophy. money and power are only accesories that are shed off after a small period of time. and when u die, ur money goes to a couple more ppl, is spent and nobody gives a sh*t about u as a person and what u were but as a source of income.
when you have a philosophy to live buy it will acho in those near you and echo and echo and echo far into the future.
that is meaning: to give meaning to those who come after you
I cannot disagree. :)
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Anyways, I would just like to rephrase:
NO POWER, possible for a human to possess, is as great as the power of money and wealth. Life becomes more meaningful with money, wealth and materialistic riches. This is what I've been indirectly taught by my dad and had experienced as well.
pz
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argument* >:( For the nth time.
I never taught you to give up. ;)
The topic will still be here after exams.
[By the way Alpha, just deleted the quote. Sorry for the post.]
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Anyways, I would just like to rephrase:
NO POWER, possible for a human to possess, is as great as the power of money and wealth. Life becomes more meaningful with money, wealth and materialistic riches. This is what I've been indirectly taught by my dad and had experienced as well.
pz
Then you have no idea about power. Find more meaning in life. You have time anyway. ;)
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@stylishexecutive: so basically ur saying all poor ppl should basically die since their life has no meaning anyway. is that it?
@alpha: so a person who wants to write about middleearth has to live there in order to write the lord of the rings? or someone has to become a jedai and defeat darth vader in order to write star wars? these ppl formed their books by the accumulatory effects of books they have read before in their lives who were written by ppl who read books like that before and so on.
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It means more the more you fight for it.
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with you there, astarmathandphysics... especially since im watching ER at the moment ;D...
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@stylishexecutive: so basically ur saying all poor ppl should basically die since their life has no meaning anyway. is that it?
@alpha: so a person who wants to write about middleearth has to live there in order to write the lord of the rings? or someone has to become a jedai and defeat darth vader in order to write star wars? these ppl formed their books by the accumulatory effects of books they have read before in their lives who were written by ppl who read books like that before and so on.
"who were written by ppl who read books like that before and so on."
Certify what you just said, write it on paper, with your signature below, and give it to me. ::)
Come on, people did not even KNOW how to read and write. So well, their life had no meaning??
And yeah, we don't need rote parrots and tape recorders, we need something 'new', just like everything was once new.
If it really was like you are supposing it was, then today, we'd all be having mere replicas of the prehistoric cavemen. How then did Man bring about evolution?
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the difference between the modern man and other primates is the fact that he has a consciousness and an imagination. some really imaginative person a long long long time ago invented an alphabet and put together a whole lot of sounds to make words to make a language, and from that language branched all sorts of things that ppl took and built upon, the way a certain author may read a certain book and write about something that the certain author had built upon from that certain book. its not the same thing over and over it has more variety. cavemen, although primitive, were not stupid. they went from naked ppl to clothed ppl and from cavemen to tent-men. and everything must be new and changed or else ppl would be up to their noses in legalities ;D
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the difference between the modern man and other primates is the fact that he has a consciousness and an imagination. some really imaginative person a long long long time ago invented an alphabet and put together a whole lot of sounds to make words to make a language, and from that language branched all sorts of things that ppl took and built upon, the way a certain author may read a certain book and write about something that the certain author had built upon from that certain book. its not the same thing over and over it has more variety. cavemen, although primitive, were not stupid. they went from naked ppl to clothed ppl and from cavemen to tent-men. and everything must be new and changed or else ppl would be up to their noses in legalities ;D
Are you not contradicting your point? ;)
If cavemen were not stupid, how can modern man be?
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am i? i thought i was doing pretty well! ;D *shrug*
the modern man is not stupid but blinded by the materialistic sort of thing that stylishexecutive said put meaning into one's life (no offense). a caveman had none of that kind of thing to worry about, just wat he was going to eat next, whether or not a lion or bear was about to maul him, and if he was warm enough. modern man has to worry about the kids, the wife, the bills, his job, his boss, the market, the rent, his psychiatrist, his car, etc.
and define exactly stupid.
hope that was free of contradiction! ;D
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LOL. It's you who used "stupid" first... ;)
Problems exist of all kind. Of all times. Of all degrees.
So yea, you said modern man has many different problems, you illustrated some. That suits us well, for new problems > new solutions.