IGCSE/GCSE/O & A Level/IB/University Student Forum
Teachers and Students => Debates => Topic started by: $tyli$h Executive on April 14, 2010, 05:38:49 am
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Beauty contests are popular in many parts of the world. The biggest, the Miss World competition, has been running annually since 1951, and although it is less popular in the UK now than it was in 1968, when it attracted 27.5 million TV viewers, it attracts an enormous worldwide audience - around 3 billion viewers in 115 countries. There are beauty contests for various categories of age and sex.
This topic focuses on adult women’s beauty contests as these the most popular and high-profile version.
I don't think they're harmful.
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Winners rarely go on to lead good lives.
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Its entirely the participants choice that she will participate in the competition. She is not being forced in any way.
Beauty competition benefits the country. It enables fashion designing firms to grow faster. It initiates a desire in young girls to look prettier and more beautiful. This in turn, benefits the country as cosmetics and beauty products sell much more and experience a cyclic demand. If there were no beauty competition, beauty and cosmetic product wouldn't have had such high demand by girls. This high demand creates employment and highers the GDP.
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The main problem with beauty contests is that they really promote low self esteem, especially among younger people - girls in particular... many teenagers try to emulate these models, and this is harmful in many cases. I keep reading about young models and young girls collapsing and suffering major health problems like anorexia due to excessive dieting and other such things that they do to try and look more like the fashion models they see on television and in magazines, which is really quite an unrealistic goal in most cases. Modern society has transformed the conception of beauty in such a way that many people feel that they aren't good enough... Beauty Shows themselves may be harmless, but the wide-scale misconception that you have to look like a fashion model to be considered very attractive is quite damaging. The alarming level of superficiality that we see all around us, especially among the younger people nowadays is irritating to say the least...
And like astarmathsandphysics said... models usually don't do well for long. They normally have a "shelf-life" of about 5-10 years before they become "too old". And that's exactly how the fashion industry looks at it.
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It's a platform to showcase what u got....it's good.
Lot of winners make a good name for themselves...Aishwarya Rai's wax figure is in Madam Tussauds ::)
I agree with what Karan n sir had to say too in a way.....some of them cannot handle the fame well...well it doesn't apply to all of them....
It's mundanely thought that ppl who enter the glamorous life cannot last long...but there are many examples which contradict this idea
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It's a platform to showcase what u got....it's good.
Lot of winners make a good name for themselves...Aishwarya Rai's wax figure is in Madam Tussauds ::)
I agree with what Karan n sir had to say too in a way.....some of them cannot handle the fame well...well it doesn't apply to all of them....
It's mundanely thought that ppl who enter the glamorous life cannot last long...but there are many examples which contradict this idea
Well... for me the bigger problem is the impact that things like this are having on society... I think fashion shows by themselves are harmless and it's the model's choice really, if she wants to take a gamble and pursue is as a career. Many models do well... but many models make very bad choices which endanger their health and images as well... I recently read about a model who died on stage at a fashion show... she had been trying to lose weight by refusing to eat almost anything for weeks... she collapsed out of exhaustion and died soon after. There is too much of an emphasis in the fashion industry (and modern society in general) on how thin you are, how perfectly your body is shaped and things like that. While I agree that no one wants to see obese people walking down the catwalk, it concerns me that people think that they need to be that way alone to look good.
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Yes. Point taken but that lies completely upon the individual...the whole industry cannot be blamed
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Girls who try to emulate models are beneficial for the country. It creates business opportunities.
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Girls who try to emulate models are beneficial for the country. It creates business opportunities.
lol borakk...ur soo...hmm...profit minded?! :-X :P
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Girls who try to emulate models are beneficial for the country. It creates business opportunities.
Lol... By that logic, more people should smoke, drink alcohol and eat fast food because it promotes the alcohol, tobacco and fast food industries... I know it's a completely different situation, but the same logic applies.
Wouldn't it be more beneficial to the economy and society if more people tried to emulate doctors, scientists, artists and businesspeople?
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Wouldn't it be more beneficial to the economy and society if more people tried to emulate doctors, scientists, artists and businesspeople?
Yes completely
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Still there is no harm in such beauty contests it's all on the participants as nid said that they aren't forced and not all can handle their fame lke shushmita sen she did not work as a good actor though she was Miss Universe and now her films too don't work well.
Actually i went a bit off topic by films but that is too something which most of the girls aim. If anyone wants to enter the film industry the firat thing which will come to their mind is of modeling or beauty contests. This is just a way thwy wanna achieve their goal.
So what's the harm in that.
I do not agree that beauty contests are harmful they are a kinda stage for some people's future.
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Still there is no harm in such beauty contests it's all on the participants as nid said that they aren't forced and not all can handle their fame lke shushmita sen she did not work as a good actor though she was Miss Universe and now her films too don't work well.
Actually i went a bit off topic by films but that is too something which most of the girls aim. If anyone wants to enter the film industry the firat thing which will come to their mind is of modeling or beauty contests. This is just a way thwy wanna achieve their goal.
So what's the harm in that.
I do not agree that beauty contests are harmful they are a kinda stage for some people's future.
Fair enough... it's a person's own choice, and some people become very successful as well... I agree that it does give some people good opportunities, which they might prefer to other career paths.
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Wouldn't it be more beneficial to the economy and society if more people tried to emulate doctors, scientists, artists and businesspeople?
No. That would destroy a major section of the entertainment industry. The entertainment industry is important, as far as people's wants and needs are concerned. People like to watch movies and other stuffs, just as they want to build houses and other more 'important' stuffs. Therefore, if people tried to emulate only those, there will be no or few entertainers and people's wants will remain unsatisfied. A business opportunity will be lost.
Everything should be balanced.
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No. That would destroy a major section of the entertainment industry. The entertainment industry is important, as far as people's wants and needs are concerned. People like to watch movies and other stuffs, just as they want to build houses and other more 'important' stuffs. Therefore, if people tried to emulate only those, there will be no or few entertainers and people's wants will remain unsatisfied. A business opportunity will be lost.
Everything should be balanced.
I like a person who has a head for finance. How about we setup an off shore company as a front to launder cash and provide this 'income' to astar to expand our clandestine operations with respect to retrieval of exam papers from certain moron organisations.
If you get my drift ;D
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I only consider lucrative business deals. :P Come over with projected cash flow figures. ::) :P
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I already have the financing.... i borrowed 50 k on a long term basis from the banks i.e. I stole it ! ;)
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Now lets get back to the topic. :P
anybody reply to my last arguments?
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What about when robots will take over our human models?
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Great idea!
But 'robot' is a turn-off for people, ya know! :P
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Ya... And in the meantime, our species will be able to invent other machines, better than robots... to replace them in the future... And the cycle goes on and on. ::)
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good thoughts about future but aren't we goin a bit off topic??
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good thoughts about future but aren't we goin a bit off topic??
No... Why?
Because, see, everything in life is interrelated. The world would never work without all of them combined.
How can we be off topic then? :D
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I think I get your meaning, Alpha. Robots = Beauty models? ;D
Its alright if beauty models fall in this cycle. They have participated in beauty contests at their own will. They can even forward their career in this way. The fashion industry provides job to many people. In addition Beauty models can become successful too, just like businessmen, doctors, etc. Its just an occupation, like all others.
Usually, they are used to advertise other products too. So, they help in the sales of those products too.
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Oh kk guys i get it now so we aren't off topic and i agree to what stylish is saying that it's just an occupation which they have their own right to do whatever they want..
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Yea, imagine them. :D
Yeah, so robots can replace them in these fields?
Do you need brains in modeling? ::)
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Yea, imagine them. :D
Yeah, so robots can replace them in these fields?
Do you need brains in modeling? ::)
Yes, we do. Its just a part. Models need to control their 'figure'. And this requires brains. They have to act in front of audience in fashion shows and other ceremonies. This requires brain to learn the moves and stuffs. Acting and modeling is not as easy as it seems. It requires brain and effort just as any other occupation like being a businessman, doctor, engineer and others.
Robots can replace them in these fields. But we shouldn't let the audience know that they are robots. Otherwise, they'll be turned off.
Realistically, they cannot. The cost of building a robot who can do nice moves will be very high. The audience will get to know anyway they are just robots. Robots and human are not the same! :P Plus, the supply of models is potentially very high, as every girl has a secret desire to become a popular model, whether she admits it or not. You probably do too! As their supply is getting high day by day and the female population is increasing more than the male population, we'll be better off with human female models, rather than machines. ;)
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why do you always bring in demand and supply?
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Because its relevant to the discussion.
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the real beauty is that of the soul. i dont think these winners dont hv this beauty. okkay its nice to feel beautiful but nt to reach the fact of showing off. i beileve these contests set a bad example and they just show girls "oh look we hv wt u dont hv, the body, the looks, the smile" while it might just bee alll fake.
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the real beauty is that of the soul. i dont think these winners dont hv this beauty. okkay its nice to feel beautiful but nt to reach the fact of showing off. i beileve these contests set a bad example and they just show girls "oh look we hv wt u dont hv, the body, the looks, the smile" while it might just bee alll fake.
99% it is fake. I hate the fact that people fell alright for women to show themselves on Tv like they are some apecimen to be admired. You have a good figure, okay keep it to yourself, and to whoever you'll end up with! Just don't show it to the whole world with the attitude of "Look at me, gee ain't I pretty or what?". Where is the confidence in such a statement put so openely?
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i once had gone to a place with one of my friend and there were some old grandpa's talking that these models they look so terrible..these shows only work because they expose their figures if they come and smile in front of everyone no one would take them as models(there are exception).
these are the words what they were talking about i mean in one way they are definitely correct.
What do you guys think..
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the real beauty is that of the soul. i dont think these winners dont hv this beauty. okkay its nice to feel beautiful but nt to reach the fact of showing off. i beileve these contests set a bad example and they just show girls "oh look we hv wt u dont hv, the body, the looks, the smile" while it might just bee alll fake.
99% it is fake. I hate the fact that people fell alright for women to show themselves on Tv like they are some apecimen to be admired. You have a good figure, okay keep it to yourself, and to whoever you'll end up with! Just don't show it to the whole world with the attitude of "Look at me, gee ain't I pretty or what?". Where is the confidence in such a statement put so openely?
Lah, beauty contests are not as bad as you think. It involves big money. The winners and those who get to model in ads and stuffs get paid highly. Ads of beauty products are highly dependent on beauty models and stars.
Showing off may be bad if done without any benefit, but its not when its for the mutual benefit of all of us.
Yes, increasing number of girls are now becoming worried for their looks. But its helping businesses that sell beauty products to grow.
Overall, its not so harmful at all. Yes, it has some bad effects - like occasionally a girl becomes excessively worried about their looks and take unwise actions. But these are occasional and not to be taken into account.
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but wht bout those who loose they obviously get hurt much
they may be pretty nd who knows biased judges r everywhere
then no 1 has the rite 2 judge if ur pretty or not
u do no 1 else