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Title: Physics paper 5 : Help needed urgently
Post by: Stealth on March 29, 2010, 04:24:25 pm
Can anyone share his/her solved paper 5; the design paper....I've missed out on the classes regarding them and have no idea what to especially with error bars and the question related to it. I would be grateful if anyone helps me out
Title: Re: Physics paper 5 : Help needed urgently
Post by: Stealth on April 03, 2010, 08:33:37 am
Common ppl , 32 views and not a single reply...be courteous
Title: Re: Physics paper 5 : Help needed urgently
Post by: Saladin on April 03, 2010, 08:47:52 am
directly pm astarmathsandphysics, he knows anything and everything abt wat ur learning, well almost anything and everything.
Title: Re: Physics paper 5 : Help needed urgently
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on April 03, 2010, 08:54:36 am
I will see if I can do a page on error bars today
Title: Re: Physics paper 5 : Help needed urgently
Post by: Stealth on April 04, 2010, 05:30:00 pm
Well have you done it
Title: Re: Physics paper 5 : Help needed urgently
Post by: Saladin on April 04, 2010, 05:33:44 pm
Well have you done it

oi, be polite to him
Title: Re: Physics paper 5 : Help needed urgently
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on April 04, 2010, 05:38:20 pm
Is ok. I forgot but I Will try and do it tonight
Title: Re: Physics paper 5 : Help needed urgently
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on April 04, 2010, 11:46:59 pm
http://www.astarmathsandphysics.com/a_level_physics_notes/principles_dimensions_units_error_analysis_etc/a_level_physics_notes_error_bars.html
Title: Re: Physics paper 5 : Help needed urgently
Post by: Stealth on April 05, 2010, 05:43:03 pm
@The so called DUDE ; What do u mean be polite, I was asking whether he had done it or not....Neither was i insulting nor criticising astar. Astarmathandphysics is a a respected member of the forum who has helped thousands of students and I commend his efforts. Its ppl like u who i dont get and whts this "Oi" ? Are u another one of those senseless imbeciles who write faster than they think and yet have no iota of whts happening in the first place.
Title: Re: Physics paper 5 : Help needed urgently
Post by: Saladin on April 05, 2010, 06:06:22 pm
well, srry, it sounded more like a command, than a kind request for information.
Title: Re: Physics paper 5 : Help needed urgently
Post by: MaNi_DaDuDe on April 05, 2010, 06:17:08 pm
Hey.. I'll scan a paper I did in class for you.. My writing is very very messy though.

My scanner is giving errors.
The Working scanner is in my father's room (who just returned from a 17 hr duty as he was on-call); but I'll still try to upload within this hour.
Title: Re: Physics paper 5 : Help needed urgently
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on April 05, 2010, 07:21:32 pm
Dude is also a v good member and people should not fly off the handle.
Title: Re: Physics paper 5 : Help needed urgently
Post by: MaNi_DaDuDe on April 05, 2010, 07:52:32 pm


I am uploading (from 50 mins now, lmao). Just wait.
Title: Re: Physics paper 5 : Help needed urgently
Post by: MaNi_DaDuDe on April 05, 2010, 08:13:25 pm
Finally, done.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/3dejjjl2njt/MaNi_DaDuDe - Phy p5.zip

Mind the hand writing. I did it in class in a rush.

The answers are in green, red - comments, blue - teacher's answers, black - comments.

The q1 is from jun 09, and q2, from nov 08.

Q1 our teacher actually showed where you get marks by putting stuff like M1, etc - next to each point. So check it out, with the ms.

Good Luck... I need to start doing papers myself..

Also, see : http://www.rit.edu/cos/uphysics/graphing/graphingpart1.html#Glossary
Title: Re: Physics paper 5 : Help needed urgently
Post by: Stealth on April 05, 2010, 08:15:48 pm
Thanx Alott for all the resources...Please forgive me, I was a little agitated...its just that i have a physics mock tomorrow and , well you all can imagine the anxiety esp if u haven't prepared well
Title: Re: Physics paper 5 : Help needed urgently
Post by: MaNi_DaDuDe on April 05, 2010, 08:18:57 pm
Thanx Alott for all the resources...Please forgive me, I was a little agitated...its just that i have a physics mock tomorrow and , well you all can imagine the anxiety esp if u haven't prepared well

i have mine on wed. haven't prepared at all. :(
Title: Re: Physics paper 5 : Help needed urgently
Post by: s16 on June 08, 2010, 07:51:49 pm
i understand error bars and how to get the error ithe gradient. what i dont know how to do is get the error in other things .. like for ex nov 08 q2.d .. and they dont even have the answer in the mark scheme what do i do ?
Title: Re: Physics paper 5 : Help needed urgently
Post by: Hwa1 on June 08, 2010, 11:39:28 pm
Just under 15 hours til exam....I hate this so much...too much error rubbish -.-
Title: Re: Physics paper 5 : Help needed urgently
Post by: falafail on June 08, 2010, 11:44:22 pm
Just under 15 hours til exam....I hate this so much...too much error rubbish -.-

I LOVE ERRORS! ;D
i love all the math parts. the physics parts... notsomuch :(

i understand error bars and how to get the error ithe gradient. what i dont know how to do is get the error in other things .. like for ex nov 08 q2.d .. and they dont even have the answer in the mark scheme what do i do ?
they do tell you how to do it in the markscheme.. :-\
e/m from your gradient - e/m from worst acceptable line gradient

personally i would've done this by calculating the percentage error of the gradient, which is equal to the % error in e/m, then multiplying it by whatever value i got for e/m. ;D
Title: Re: Physics paper 5 : Help needed urgently
Post by: Hwa1 on June 08, 2010, 11:48:26 pm
personally i would've done this by calculating the percentage error of the gradient, which is equal to the % error in e/m, then multiplying it by whatever value i got for e/m. ;D
What other way is there? =/
Title: Re: Physics paper 5 : Help needed urgently
Post by: falafail on June 08, 2010, 11:50:08 pm
What other way is there? =/

according to the markscheme,
e/m from your gradient - e/m from worst acceptable line gradient
Title: Re: Physics paper 5 : Help needed urgently
Post by: Hwa1 on June 08, 2010, 11:54:27 pm
Ahhh ok gotcha, thanks :D

I'm still worried to death....I think right now I'm on the borderline of an A so i really have to do well in this paper....
No A >>> bye bye uni offer :(
Title: Re: Physics paper 5 : Help needed urgently
Post by: falafail on June 08, 2010, 11:57:13 pm
Ahhh ok gotcha, thanks :D

I'm still worried to death....I think right now I'm on the borderline of an A so i really have to do well in this paper....
No A >>> bye bye uni offer :(

LOL, i'm just hoping i'll maintain my B. i totally messed up on paper 4 so :(
don't worry, this paper's easy.