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Title: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: **!!superexcited!!!** on November 04, 2009, 01:45:37 pm
http://www.freeexampapers.us/IGCSE/Physics/CIE/2008%20Nov/0625_w08_qp_6.pdf (http://www.freeexampapers.us/IGCSE/Physics/CIE/2008%20Nov/0625_w08_qp_6.pdf)   plz help wid question 2a... want 2 confirm my answer....
plz helpp asap.....
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 04, 2009, 01:57:58 pm
attached..not sure...abt the Voltmeter..shid be correct though
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: **!!superexcited!!!** on November 04, 2009, 02:00:17 pm
attached..not sure...abt the Voltmeter..shid be correct though
aren't u supposed 2 use symbol for resistance instead of wires??
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: ruchir.sakhrani on November 04, 2009, 02:51:14 pm
Even I had doubt inthat question, anyone please help
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: **!!superexcited!!!** on November 04, 2009, 02:52:27 pm
yeah plz asap!!!
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: DaaDoo on November 04, 2009, 03:03:31 pm
I didnt get this one either.. :-\

Can any one help me with question 1 b, c, and d. (below)
I dont get it, it should be a simple times question but I just dont get it? Is there something I'm missing??
For b (ii), i got 5212.65mm and the answer was 5.57....? ???

Please help! :)
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: DaaDoo on November 04, 2009, 03:07:30 pm
Forgot the paper!

http://www.freeexampapers.us/IGCSE/Physics/CIE/2006%20Jun/0625_s06_qp_6.pdf (http://www.freeexampapers.us/IGCSE/Physics/CIE/2006%20Jun/0625_s06_qp_6.pdf)
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: **!!superexcited!!!** on November 04, 2009, 03:10:36 pm
I didnt get this one either.. :-\

Can any one help me with question 1 b, c, and d. (below)
I dont get it, it should be a simple times question but I just dont get it? Is there something I'm missing??
For b (ii), i got 5212.65mm and the answer was 5.57....? ???

Please help! :)

hey dont worry abt diagrams when YOU print dem....i know the measuremnts for all diagrams r diff, but in d exam it will b d correct... this  is cuz of d scale...
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: @d!_†oX!© on November 04, 2009, 03:12:55 pm
i think this should be a correct diagram!!
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: **!!superexcited!!!** on November 04, 2009, 03:18:23 pm
i think this should be a correct diagram!!
kk... hope dey dont ask such a confusin quest in d exam...
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 04, 2009, 03:28:08 pm
i think this should be a correct diagram!!
B and D are not joint in the diagram in the paper.
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: @d!_†oX!© on November 04, 2009, 03:34:35 pm
B and D are not joint in the diagram in the paper.
u r rite!!
done!!
check back
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 04, 2009, 03:43:26 pm
u r rite!!
done!!
check back

yea..that is correct..u sure u gotta put those boxes?
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: @d!_†oX!© on November 04, 2009, 03:50:09 pm
those boxes are the symbol for resistances....thats wt it requires...the question
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 04, 2009, 04:14:32 pm
i think ur answers are wrong!!
they say check the resistance of wire!!

not resistor!!!
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: @d!_†oX!© on November 04, 2009, 04:34:13 pm
i didn't get u shrey!!!pls explain wt u r saying!!
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 04, 2009, 04:38:13 pm
i didn't get u shrey!!!pls explain wt u r saying!!
i just lved the questio paper!!
it says that they are investigating theresistance of wire not resistor!!

so it must not be resistor ka sign!!!

got it???
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: wassup on November 04, 2009, 04:45:33 pm
can ne1 temme how 2 get accurate results in lens n bulb experiments???
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 04, 2009, 04:46:34 pm
daken the room,,

move the lense slowly to get a fixed piont!!
keep the ruler fixed!! so that reading are not affected!!
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 04, 2009, 04:48:49 pm
can ne1 temme how 2 get accurate results in lens n bulb experiments???

as shrey said

-dark room
- move the lense to get a SHARP IMAGE (not fixed point)
-repeats
-always view the base of the pin
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: wassup on November 04, 2009, 04:48:55 pm
daken the room,,

move the lense slowly to get a fixed piont!!
keep the ruler fixed!! so that reading are not affected!!

i cant darken d room because many ppl give d prac at a time...v dnt get indivisual rooms n i dnt think ne1 gets indiv. rooms.

so ne other way?
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 04, 2009, 04:49:33 pm
ohh so taking pracs!!
then do the other steps!!
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 04, 2009, 04:50:01 pm
i cant darken d room because many ppl give d prac at a time...v dnt get indivisual rooms n i dnt think ne1 gets indiv. rooms.

so ne other way?

i have listed down few

here is 1 more i found in a ms

- pins shud be far away

read my previous post for more
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: Q80BOY on November 04, 2009, 04:50:20 pm
can ne1 temme how 2 get accurate results in lens n bulb experiments???

dim the lights in the room
repeat and take an average
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: wassup on November 04, 2009, 04:50:34 pm
as shrey said

-dark room
- move the lense to get a SHARP IMAGE (not fixed point)
-repeats
-always view the base of the pin

i dnt think v can move the lens because d ppr tells us where 2 keep it...v can move d screen.
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: moon on November 04, 2009, 04:50:52 pm
i just lved the questio paper!!
it says that they are investigating theresistance of wire not resistor!!

so it must not be resistor ka sign!!!

got it???

look at the mark scheme, Adi is rite
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 04, 2009, 04:51:12 pm
ya but move it slowly!!
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 04, 2009, 04:51:55 pm
i dnt think v can move the lens because d ppr tells us where 2 keep it...v can move d screen.

ok..so yea move d screen
keep the pins far away
view the base of the pins
repeats
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: wassup on November 04, 2009, 04:52:52 pm
ok..so yea move d screen
keep the pins far away
view the base of the pins
repeats

where r d pins dude??? i ve never used pins in such exps.
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: Q80BOY on November 04, 2009, 04:53:15 pm
adi_toxic's answer is right for nov 08 paper

i have my collection of solved past papers infront of me .. ASK ME PEOPLE! :P
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 04, 2009, 04:54:18 pm
dude how come??
wat are you talking abt!!
it must not be resistor ka sign rite???
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 04, 2009, 04:54:37 pm
where r d pins dude??? i ve never used pins in such exps.

oh sry, those are for light experiments invloving prism. keep that in mind. helpful.
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: Q80BOY on November 04, 2009, 04:56:54 pm
dude how come??
wat are you talking abt!!
it must not be resistor ka sign rite???

no no adi_toxic's diagram is right, the boxes are resistors
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 04, 2009, 04:58:50 pm
i guess not they asking abt wires rite???

so how come boxes!??
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: Q80BOY on November 04, 2009, 05:01:16 pm
i guess not they asking abt wires rite???

so how come boxes!??

question says: use the standard symbol for a resistance to represent each of these wires. the only symbol i know is the rectange for a resistor ..
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 04, 2009, 05:01:28 pm
i guess not they asking abt wires rite???

so how come boxes!??

i find this ambiguous.

the q says "Use the standard symbol
for a resistance to represent each of these wires"

it doesnt say standard symbol of resistor!...it says resistance

so shud it be the box/or wire or other standard symbol

pretty ambiguous
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 04, 2009, 05:02:43 pm
i remember this q was asked in our class test!!
i drew boxs sir had killed me for that thing!!!
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: Q80BOY on November 04, 2009, 05:05:21 pm
i dunno shrey, but my teacher's answer was the rectange boxes .. mm very ambiguous indeed :P
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 04, 2009, 05:06:28 pm
true!!
i guess this type of q doesnt come!!
tooo ambiguous!!
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 04, 2009, 05:22:45 pm
By the way where is astar!!
he can tell something abt it!!!
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: @d!_†oX!© on November 04, 2009, 05:26:44 pm
guys even i had this thing in one of my  exams...nd  i drew the same diagram as i have given b4...nd it was right....wts so ambiguous in it??
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 04, 2009, 05:27:27 pm
it says wire!!
so how can wire be given symbol of resistor!!????!?!??!?!???
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: @d!_†oX!© on November 04, 2009, 05:33:28 pm
arrey wire is a resistance only naaa.....
even a bulb can be represented by a rectangle cuz its also a resistance....
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on November 04, 2009, 05:35:36 pm
ohh!
so have you done it ever!!
it is foolishness to use resistance symbol for bulb!!
dude ur joking!!! or serious!!
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: @d!_†oX!© on November 04, 2009, 05:45:44 pm
i am serious man....!!!!!!!!!
U CAN UE A RECTANGLE FOR A BULB....
any resistance can be represented as a rectangle
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: **!!superexcited!!!** on November 04, 2009, 05:54:39 pm
okay guys relax... i got my answer... Thanks a lot!.. ;) END OF DISCUSSION!! lol ;D
Title: Re: physics paper 6 doubt....
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on November 04, 2009, 05:56:12 pm
i am serious man....!!!!!!!!!
U CAN UE A RECTANGLE FOR A BULB....
any resistance can be represented as a rectangle

lol..isnt that obvious shrey...pagal ho gaya hai kya?

common sense dude