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Title: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: $!$RatJumper$!$ on November 02, 2009, 03:38:42 pm
is it possible that Manufacturing, income n expendature and partnership accounts are likely to come for a paper 2 in accounts???

Thankx guys
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: holtadit on November 02, 2009, 03:53:22 pm
Yes, very much possible. I suggest u learn every aspect of the syllabus as each topic has an even probability of coming in the exam.

Manufacturing, income n expenditure accounts do come quite frequently but partnerships have a slightl less likelihood of appearing in an exam.
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: $!$RatJumper$!$ on November 02, 2009, 03:56:55 pm
Yes, very much possible. I suggest u learn every aspect of the syllabus as each topic has an even probability of coming in the exam.

Manufacturing, income n expenditure accounts do come quite frequently but partnerships have a slightl less likelihood of appearing in an exam.

i see.. but i thought that these types will only come in a paper 3... well thats what a friend told me.. anyways.. thankx... ill be sure to study them now :) cheers
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: $!$RatJumper$!$ on November 02, 2009, 04:03:02 pm
oh and also... could you guys please sum up what is put into a current account and a capital acccount. Just like the things on the debit side and credit side.
Also, what is the diff between a current and capital?
thankx
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: lastgift on November 02, 2009, 04:13:54 pm
i have already answered the question in the other thread (all oct/nov 09 discussions here) and as for the current and capital a/c..


for current accnt on debit side u have-(anything which reduces the value of the capital)
drawings and interest on drawings on
 
credit side (which increases the value of the capital)-
interest on capital
salary
profit share (from p/l appropriation a/c)
interest on loan

i wll post a link to make it more clear if i can :D...

Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: $!$RatJumper$!$ on November 02, 2009, 04:17:58 pm
thankx bro.. that cleared it up :)
By the way which other thread is this that ur talkin abt?
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: lastgift on November 02, 2009, 04:22:23 pm
edited the previous post!!
and not "bro"....i shld put a more feminine username i guess!! ;)
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: $!$RatJumper$!$ on November 02, 2009, 04:26:01 pm
oh sorry for that...my apologies :)
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: lastgift on November 02, 2009, 04:27:28 pm
no worries at all!! 8)
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: lastgift on November 02, 2009, 04:30:23 pm
By the way just to give u a clearer idea of the syllabus and the division of it see the checklist....
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: $!$RatJumper$!$ on November 02, 2009, 04:33:49 pm
wow thankx a lot for all ur help :) much appreciated :)
cheers
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: lastgift on November 02, 2009, 04:38:30 pm
anytime :D!!!
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: $!$RatJumper$!$ on November 03, 2009, 08:35:08 am
hey.. in paper 2 may june 2007 q3a), what do u do fr the rent is payable quarterly in advance? please help uurgently!!
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: lastgift on November 03, 2009, 09:59:01 am
hey..hope m not late..
for rent payable u know that the rent is being payed four time in a year (quaterly) therefore the $ 900 amount is for three months and the ledger account is made only for a month so u divide $900/3 which gives u $ 300 for the current month and the rest $ 600 is carried foward to the next month!!
clear?? ???
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: $!$RatJumper$!$ on November 03, 2009, 10:08:30 am
hey..hope m not late..
for rent payable u know that the rent is being payed four time in a year (quaterly) therefore the $ 900 amount is for three months and the ledger account is made only for a month so u divide $900/3 which gives u $ 300 for the current month and the rest $ 600 is carried foward to the next month!!
clear?? ???

thankx a tun!! ur a real life saviour :P lol.. hav u done ur exam By the way?
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: lastgift on November 03, 2009, 10:09:55 am
ur welcum :)

yeah!!just gave it!!really cool paper!! ;D!!!

when is urs??
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: $!$RatJumper$!$ on November 03, 2009, 10:11:46 am
serious.. yeah i hav mine in an hour and a half..
so is it like the past papers.. or easier?
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: lastgift on November 03, 2009, 10:13:12 am
mmmm...i found it considerably very easy compared to m/j 09!!
thresholds are going to soar!!
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: $!$RatJumper$!$ on November 03, 2009, 10:17:58 am
ah thats shweet.. easier than m/j 09?!!? wow.. that paper was real easy.. this is goin to be paradise then ;) haha
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: $!$RatJumper$!$ on November 03, 2009, 10:23:03 am
hey! i need help again.. sorry

in m/j 09... i dont understand q2 d) and e)
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: $!$RatJumper$!$ on November 03, 2009, 01:49:00 pm
in acc.. if u reduce drawings... does the wroking capital stay the same, increase or decrease
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: Alpha on November 03, 2009, 01:55:53 pm
Working Capital is the difference between Current Assets and Current Liabilities...

Usually, no, since drawings affects the Owner's Fund...

But yes, if drawings has not been deducted from the Cash/Bank balance or the Closing Inventory, then yes, Working capital will reduce.
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: lastgift on November 03, 2009, 02:26:00 pm
If you reduve drawings then ur working capital is likely to 'increase'!! :)

so how was the paper?? ::)
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: $!$RatJumper$!$ on November 03, 2009, 04:22:51 pm
was good :) except i messed up this drawings thing :P lol..
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: $!$RatJumper$!$ on November 03, 2009, 05:42:29 pm
hey to get an A* in accounts... do u HAVE to get an A for all papers u do? or can u like get a B for one and a high A for the other and still get an A*
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: Alpha on November 04, 2009, 12:44:51 pm
If you reduve drawings then ur working capital is likely to 'increase'!! :)

so how was the paper?? ::)

Why? How?

Cash Drawings will not affect, depending upon the structure in which the question has been set.

Drawings of goods will be deducted from Purchases, still depending upon the question, which is normally the case.

Can you be more explicit?
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: $!$RatJumper$!$ on November 04, 2009, 12:46:30 pm
Why? How?

Cash Drawings will not affect, depending upon the structure in which the question has been set.

Drawings of goods will be deducted from Purchases, still depending upon the question, which is normally the case.

Can you be more explicit?

what did u answer Alpha?? I said "no effect" in the exam :P lol
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: Alpha on November 04, 2009, 12:58:16 pm
Hehe...
My mind is BLANK....LOL  :P

Which question, if you remember still?  ;)
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: $!$RatJumper$!$ on November 04, 2009, 01:04:22 pm
haha umm... it was the one where it said tick if its an increase, decrease or no effect on working capital if drawings are decreased...
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: Alpha on November 04, 2009, 01:07:14 pm
No Effect  :)

Thanks for refreshing...lol  ;D

Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: lastgift on November 04, 2009, 03:36:00 pm
Drawings are generally in form of cash or purchases (stock)...therfore it they are reduced and with a increase in current assets its likely that W.C would improve...
If anyone of u have the book by Catherine Coucom (ISBN 978-0-521-72001-4) then its clearly said so in on pg.375!!
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: lastgift on November 04, 2009, 03:49:47 pm
By the way hows everyone preparing for paper 3??
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: $!$RatJumper$!$ on November 04, 2009, 03:55:38 pm
yeah ok u got a point there :)
and fr p3... past papers are the best option :) lol u?
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: lastgift on November 04, 2009, 04:03:32 pm
yeah!!m feeling so lazy to reread the entire book so relying on pastpprs seems as a safe opt!!!! ;)!!
dint even come across helpful site dor accnts so we dont have much option!! :-\
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: $!$RatJumper$!$ on November 04, 2009, 04:09:34 pm
yeah tru tru... oh well.. the exam will be easy.. considering that the p2 was easy.. wat do u think?
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: lastgift on November 04, 2009, 04:14:36 pm
yeah hoping so!!but seeing the previous trend of o/n 08..ppr 2 was easy but many messed up in ppr3 !!
luck and hope are vital!! ;)
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: $!$RatJumper$!$ on November 04, 2009, 04:15:32 pm
baha yeah yeah thats tru :P well we just gta do our best :)
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: lastgift on November 04, 2009, 04:17:33 pm
and come out with flying colour!! :)
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: lastgift on November 05, 2009, 01:09:51 pm
hey..for the quick (acid test) ratio we subtract stock and prepayments from the current assets?? ???
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: adorabledaughter_07 on November 05, 2009, 01:37:23 pm
formula for quick ratio iz simple..
      current assets-stock/current liab :)
 
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: lastgift on November 05, 2009, 01:41:45 pm
yeah...i know..was a lil confused if we deduct prepayments too!!
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: adorabledaughter_07 on November 05, 2009, 01:43:58 pm
nah...prepayments are included in de current assets!..
all set for paper 3??hope its easy.. :P
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: lastgift on November 05, 2009, 01:46:36 pm
thanks for clearing the confusion!! :)
i have BS + accounts tom..so VERY tensed!! :(!!
but hopefully paper 3 wld be easy just like paper 2!!!  :-\
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: adorabledaughter_07 on November 05, 2009, 01:54:21 pm
welcom!...me too havin french +acc..
all de best then! :)
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: lastgift on November 05, 2009, 01:58:17 pm
ohh!!
Bonne chance!! :)
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: $!$RatJumper$!$ on November 05, 2009, 02:00:49 pm
hahahaa :) same here.. also got french and acc :P good luck every one ;) or should i also say.. BONNE CHANCE like lastgift ;)
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: Ash16 on November 05, 2009, 07:38:32 pm
I guess my situation is the worst; i have Bs+a/c's+french  :'(
God bless me!
Title: Re: Accounting Paper 2 Discussion
Post by: $!$RatJumper$!$ on November 05, 2009, 08:16:03 pm
I guess my situation is the worst; i have Bs+a/c's+french  :'(
God bless me!

dont worry.. i know u got this k :) just dnt wry too much abt french cuz there isnt really much u can study for.. concentrate on acc an bus.. best of luck

cheers!