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Title: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on September 10, 2009, 06:07:53 pm
Frankly I am sick of them and glad they are bankrupt. Not enough large faceless companies go bankrupt. I will do what I can do bankrupt as many as possible, and will start by point out LINUX is MUCH BETTER THAN WINDOWS
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: master786 on September 10, 2009, 06:43:39 pm
y do u want it to go bankrupt ?
soo many ppl will get out jobs bcoz of tht :P doesnt help the crrent world crisis ....
dint xpect this from u :P
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: Q80BOY on September 10, 2009, 07:50:29 pm
ooh are they :(

cant they wait until im 18 so i can purchase my dream car from them ..?  :-\

Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on September 10, 2009, 09:44:56 pm
Jobs lost at GM means jobs created elsewhere. And since elsewhere make better, more efficient cars we will all be better off.
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: master786 on September 10, 2009, 09:46:15 pm
i dnt think any firm is ready to take in ppl ...the amt tht will loose jobs :p
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: Q80BOY on September 11, 2009, 01:02:31 pm
how can a business as big as GM go bankrupt?

i mean here in kuwait maybe 65% of the cars are from GM .. those people visit the service centres etc. and this happens all over the world .. not to mention the number of cars bought daily world wide from GM .. i dont understand how they go bankrupt .. TWICE !! :S
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on September 11, 2009, 01:15:25 pm
GM has been on the verge of nankruptcy for 30 years. It was always going to happen. There is not a car company in the west now maybe that is not in major trouble and begging for governement help.
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: Q80BOY on September 11, 2009, 01:18:22 pm
GM has been on the verge of nankruptcy for 30 years. It was always going to happen. There is not a car company in the west now maybe that is not in major trouble and begging for governement help.

sad thing .. so does that mean that companies like Hummer and Cadillac will also go bankrupt? =/
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on September 11, 2009, 01:52:21 pm
I think tGM will be broken up. Hummer will not go bankrupt cos they supply miltary vehicles, much in demand now.
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: Q80BOY on September 11, 2009, 01:56:23 pm
I think tGM will be broken up. Hummer will not go bankrupt cos they supply miltary vehicles, much in demand now.

ahaa ..

or maybe GM will sell their brands to other comapnies like TATA bought jaguar =/
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: sweetsh on September 11, 2009, 01:57:34 pm
TATA? =S
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: Q80BOY on September 11, 2009, 02:01:34 pm
TATA? =S

lol sis ..

theyre an indian car company .. they also own Land Rover  :)
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: sweetsh on September 11, 2009, 02:04:29 pm
It's the first time I hear somethine like that =S
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: Q80BOY on September 11, 2009, 02:06:38 pm
It's the first time I hear somethine like that =S

http://www.tatamotors.com
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: sweetsh on September 11, 2009, 02:07:56 pm
Thats something nice to add to my knowledge.. Well something intersting =/
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: Q80BOY on September 11, 2009, 02:10:29 pm
Thats something nice to add to my knowledge.. Well something intersting =/

i came to know of them when i became obsessed by cars last year :P

Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on September 11, 2009, 02:12:19 pm
Thats what they call power moving east. Tata buy landrover
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: Q80BOY on September 11, 2009, 02:52:30 pm
Thats what they call power moving east. Tata buy landrover

i think Tata bought all the failing car businesses .. lucky group !!
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: nid404 on September 11, 2009, 03:05:31 pm
I have a TATA car...pretty old it is though
 it's sad in a way that GM motors is finally bankrupt
TATA group of companies is owned by Ratan Tata, son of Jamshedji Tata(a Parsi..so originally not from India...rich chaps from the very beginning..very helpful to the British during their reign in India...grew richer and richer)....They not only have TATA motors but also mobile services and Broadband services and TATA power( India's largest private power utility)
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: Q80BOY on September 11, 2009, 03:06:42 pm
I have a TATA car...pretty old it is though
 it's sad in a way that GM motors is finally bankrupt
TATA group of companies is owned by Ratan Tata, son of Jamshedji Tata(a Parsi..so originally not from India...rich chaps from the very beginning..very helpful to the British during their reign in India...grew richer and richer)....They not only have TATA motors but also mobile services and Broadband services and TATA power( India's largest private power utility)

YOU have a car .. lucky gal !!

how old do u have to be to drive in India? 16?
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: nid404 on September 11, 2009, 03:08:48 pm
I have a TATA car...pretty old it is though
 it's sad in a way that GM motors is finally bankrupt
TATA group of companies is owned by Ratan Tata, son of Jamshedji Tata(a Parsi..so originally not from India...rich chaps from the very beginning..very helpful to the British during their reign in India...grew richer and richer)....They not only have TATA motors but also mobile services and Broadband services and TATA power( India's largest private power utility)

YOU have a car .. lucky gal !!

how old do u have to be to drive in India? 16?

Oh no...I don't drive as yet...I have to be 18 to get a license
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: Q80BOY on September 11, 2009, 03:09:58 pm
I have a TATA car...pretty old it is though
 it's sad in a way that GM motors is finally bankrupt
TATA group of companies is owned by Ratan Tata, son of Jamshedji Tata(a Parsi..so originally not from India...rich chaps from the very beginning..very helpful to the British during their reign in India...grew richer and richer)....They not only have TATA motors but also mobile services and Broadband services and TATA power( India's largest private power utility)

YOU have a car .. lucky gal !!

how old do u have to be to drive in India? 16?

Oh no...I don't drive as yet...I have to be 18 to get a license

ooh .. ya same here in kuwait ..
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: nid404 on September 11, 2009, 03:14:39 pm
I have a TATA car...pretty old it is though
 it's sad in a way that GM motors is finally bankrupt
TATA group of companies is owned by Ratan Tata, son of Jamshedji Tata(a Parsi..so originally not from India...rich chaps from the very beginning..very helpful to the British during their reign in India...grew richer and richer)....They not only have TATA motors but also mobile services and Broadband services and TATA power( India's largest private power utility)

how old do u have to be to drive in India? 16?

Oh no...I don't drive as yet...I have to be 18 to get a license

ooh .. ya same here in kuwait ..

So we both are in the waiting list....to be driving officially
I wanna get my license real fast....and a car along with it on my 18th birthday...a porsche or ferrari or bentley....if my dad fails to buy any of these..I'll have to go for TATA Nano...The 1 lakh (indian rupees) car
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: Q80BOY on September 11, 2009, 03:18:38 pm
haha :P the wait will nearly be over ..

and the Tata Nano is WICKED !! .. i want one :P
YOU have a car .. lucky gal !!

PS i didnt edit anything in ur post nid .. it happened by mistake :)

Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: master786 on September 11, 2009, 03:20:28 pm
TATA Nano :P
tht car is crazy :P

but well i m wating for my first car ...6ish months more till iget my license :P inshallah :D
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: Q80BOY on September 11, 2009, 03:24:00 pm
TATA Nano :P
tht car is crazy :P

but well i m wating for my first car ...6ish months more till iget my license :P inshallah :D

ooh ur soo lucky .. what car so u want to buy? or would like to buy?
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on September 11, 2009, 03:24:44 pm
Still my dream car
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: master786 on September 11, 2009, 03:25:39 pm
i wud want to buy maybe a cayenne turbo XD 4 wheeler ;p

but ! i m going to use my moms car ... its a camry :)
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: Q80BOY on September 11, 2009, 03:26:23 pm
Still my dream car

haha sir .. u can get one from thailand  ;)
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: master786 on September 11, 2009, 03:27:04 pm
they call it tuktuk in srilanka too i think :o
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: nid404 on September 11, 2009, 03:28:20 pm
they call it tuktuk in srilanka too i think :o

Rikshaw in India....tuktuk in Thailand also
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: master786 on September 11, 2009, 03:28:51 pm
"rikshaaa" :P
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: Q80BOY on September 11, 2009, 03:29:27 pm
i wud want to buy maybe a cayenne turbo XD 4 wheeler ;p

but ! i m going to use my moms car ... its a camry :)

love ur choices  ;)
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: nid404 on September 11, 2009, 03:30:03 pm
I like Camry <3...I like Toyota
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: nid404 on September 11, 2009, 03:31:25 pm
"rikshaaa" :P

RIKSHAW :P :P
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: master786 on September 11, 2009, 03:33:15 pm
lol :P

well toyota is good :P
but porsche is always better :|
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: nid404 on September 11, 2009, 03:41:26 pm
lol :P

well toyota is good :P
but porsche is always better :|

This was abt GM Motors :P
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: slvri on September 11, 2009, 03:41:34 pm
rickshaw pwns porsche any day :P :P :P
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: nid404 on September 11, 2009, 03:44:33 pm
rickshaw pwns porsche any day :P :P :P

oops!! GM Motors??
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: slvri on September 11, 2009, 03:46:34 pm
rickshaw pwns porsche any day :P :P :P

oops!! GM Motors??
ok in that case
rickshaw pwns GM Motors :P :P
jk lets get back to da topic
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: master786 on September 11, 2009, 04:08:07 pm
no no :p GM motors is pwned for life for now :P
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: nid404 on September 11, 2009, 04:10:03 pm
no no :p GM motors is pwned for life for now :P

GM Motors.....*sighs*......... :P
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: master786 on September 11, 2009, 04:37:56 pm
GM is the heart of saudi :P
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: Zain-Xa on September 11, 2009, 06:25:06 pm
haha i like rikshaas :D


i cant wait to drivee ;D
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: Saladin on September 11, 2009, 11:38:57 pm
I know quite well the Tata is the worst Car company in the world, with a record for highly dangerous to the environment. The Longivity of the Nano in normal circumstances is 2 yrs. It pollutes 3 times as much as an average Ford. And most importantly, it is very unsafe, as its frail body is made of thin steel, 3 times thicker than and alluminium can's coating.

About GM, it does not deserve to make cars, Toyota provides the best cars, both frndly to environment and also cheap for the quality it provides. Rarely people comment badly about a Corolla.

GM should go bankrupt because all they do is spend money on buying expensive assets such as private jets. And the cars it makes are unpopular even in the US. It should stop wasting government money. However, if it does go bankrupt, the ppl it owes money to will get it over a lon perios of time hence, creating financial trouble for them.

However, it is not the GM company that is to be blamed completely, but rather the Western, especially American Banks that led to reduction in the availabity of finance, as they themselves went bankrupt and also led to others being so. Problem here really is credit speding and speculation. The western financial system is one that is "screwed up", it frankly does not work and the sophistication is far to advanced, causing loop holes to form, thus allowing financial gurus to take advantage of them.
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: nid404 on September 12, 2009, 05:04:27 am
I know quite well the Tata is the worst Car company in the world, with a record for highly dangerous to the environment. The Longivity of the Nano in normal circumstances is 2 yrs. It pollutes 3 times as much as an average Ford. And most importantly, it is very unsafe, as its frail body is made of thin steel, 3 times thicker than and alluminium can's coating.

About GM, it does not deserve to make cars, Toyota provides the best cars, both frndly to environment and also cheap for the quality it provides. Rarely people comment badly about a Corolla.

GM should go bankrupt because all they do is spend money on buying expensive assets such as private jets. And the cars it makes are unpopular even in the US. It should stop wasting government money. However, if it does go bankrupt, the ppl it owes money to will get it over a lon perios of time hence, creating financial trouble for them.

However, it is not the GM company that is to be blamed completely, but rather the Western, especially American Banks that led to reduction in the availabity of finance, as they themselves went bankrupt and also led to others being so. Problem here really is credit speding and speculation. The western financial system is one that is "screwed up", it frankly does not work and the sophistication is far to advanced, causing loop holes to form, thus allowing financial gurus to take advantage of them.

That's right..TATA's cars are known to cause potential harm to the environment.....but I still feel sad for the employees of GM Motors
Toyota is amazing though :) Wish to see hybrid cars and the lot coming from their side
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on September 12, 2009, 08:39:52 am
The employees of gm are also responsible for the company's bankruptcy. They fought like fury to protect their benefits, be the company in ever so much trouble.
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: X Abdulrahman X on September 15, 2009, 12:40:13 am
yea gm are stupid, they should decrease their prices and try to sell as much as they can even with little profit, and reduce the number of employees and factories they have, then try to get more shareholders and new ideas..
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on September 16, 2009, 11:59:21 am
my dada says that if u want to buy tata goods buy a truck
cause they use truck engine in their cars!!!
silly company
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on September 16, 2009, 12:02:06 pm
truck engine in their cars.

Actually for a car company that is a niche market.
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on September 16, 2009, 12:06:36 pm
u must see those cars
small and noisy!!
they pollute environment more than those of a factory
i wud rather chose a ford or audi as my car!!
my mom jst bought a chevy small one indeed
i think some world known company shud take over GM
rather than TATA
cause they will say TATA if they buy this GM


TATA=Bye in india
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on September 16, 2009, 12:16:03 pm
u must see those cars
small and noisy!!
they pollute environment more than those of a factory
i wud rather chose a ford or audi as my car!!
my mom jst bought a chevy small one indeed
i think some world known company shud take over GM
rather than TATA
cause they will say TATA if they buy this GM


TATA=Bye in india

not all tata cars r noisy and small

It is India's largest company in the automobile and commercial vehicle sector

wiki
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on September 16, 2009, 12:20:41 pm
except for indigo and indigo CS i think only one remains Indica
that is = to all those which were left out
so i think all cars r noisy
it is pop in india cause i thnk there r no other indian car manu
if u think maruti is one
then they are 110% better than TATA
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on September 16, 2009, 12:30:23 pm
except for indigo and indigo CS i think only one remains Indica
that is = to all those which were left out
so i think all cars r noisy
it is pop in india cause i thnk there r no other indian car manu
if u think maruti is one
then they are 110% better than TATA
tata motors own jaguar too and land rover...

this wudnt have happened if their cars were "noisy and small"
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on September 16, 2009, 12:32:11 pm
this cud be done by maruti suzuki instead but they rnt
cause i thiink they will buy tata once they have conquered all the big shots!!!
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on September 16, 2009, 12:40:45 pm
this cud be done by maruti suzuki instead but they rnt
cause i thiink they will buy tata once they have conquered all the big shots!!!
hahaha

its not a cakewalk to conquer TATA after it has grown so much..

they will never be able to conquer it...

thats obv.
if they wud...they wud have to start by buying diff. automobile companies...e.g "jaguar and land rover"..which dey didnt...and thus TATA did
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on September 16, 2009, 02:05:49 pm
Any compamny that just buys others companies may well not succeed. eg GM

You have to make better cars eg toyota
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: nid404 on September 16, 2009, 02:11:09 pm
Toyota would have a larger share of the market if they reduced the price of their cars....effective production....which TATA has done because of low labour costs in India
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on September 16, 2009, 06:48:03 pm
I dont think TATA sells cars in Britain under their own name. I don't think they would sell well. TATA doesn't sound like a sexy name for a car.
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: nid404 on September 16, 2009, 06:50:40 pm
I dont think TATA sells cars in Britain under their own name. I don't think they would sell well. TATA doesn't sound like a sexy name for a car.

lol...car's name 'sexy' to be selling well....true actually.. :D
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on September 16, 2009, 08:09:30 pm
What an idea

set up a car company

call it "sexy"

make millions
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: X Abdulrahman X on September 16, 2009, 08:26:53 pm
What an idea

set up a car company

call it "sexy"

make millions

hahaha lmao that so true i love the idea!
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on September 17, 2009, 12:49:49 pm
has tata gone through ne vertical integration?!?
i think it must have some of its raw material producing companies in india
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on September 17, 2009, 01:28:06 pm
Vertical integration is bad in business. It means you have to know what too many people are doing.
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on September 24, 2009, 09:56:22 am
haha
thats true
but y cant they jst take over a firm that supplies them wid raw material
that wud also be a vertical integration!!
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on September 24, 2009, 10:08:05 am
a company has concentrate on something, concentrate on designing and making better cars.
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: ~~~~shreyapril~~~~ on September 26, 2009, 09:22:18 am
thats true but wat about diversification?!?
that is the main reason for integration i think
Title: Re: General motors bankrupt again
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on September 26, 2009, 09:43:22 am
If you diversify you have options other than making better cars