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Title: MATH P4 [IGCSE] HELP!
Post by: ashisonline on May 16, 2009, 07:19:43 pm
This is a question from the spec. paper 2009...about the bar height of the histogram...what do you do after you find the frequency density?

Thanks!
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Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 16, 2009, 07:27:06 pm
Draw the histogram!
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Post by: ashisonline on May 16, 2009, 07:29:59 pm
ERM, no, you're not supposed to draw...
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Post by: Krissy on May 16, 2009, 07:33:12 pm
umm theres no such question  :-\
Title: Re: MATH P4 [IGCSE] HELP!
Post by: Ascer Zayan on May 16, 2009, 07:33:38 pm
This is a question from the spec. paper 2009...about the bar height of the histogram...what do you do after you find the frequency density?

Thanks!
He didnt ask For histrogram,
he asked for cumilative frequency
However, if u want to find the height then use this ratio
F.d=Frequency divided by ClassWidth
and usually height equals the to the F.D
Title: Re: MATH P4 [IGCSE] HELP!
Post by: ashisonline on May 16, 2009, 07:47:10 pm
Yeah for the cumulative frequency, but when I find the FD, that's right but it's not the final answer...?
Title: Re: MATH P4 [IGCSE] HELP!
Post by: theigstudent on May 16, 2009, 08:19:20 pm
could any1 explain wat is sheer
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Post by: Priceless on May 16, 2009, 08:27:46 pm
ok ashisonline 4 dat ques u dont need 2 bother bout FD tell me wat ques ur stuck on so i can help.
n theigstudent well shear is type of a transformation like enlargement. It has a scale factor n stuff. itz rely hard 2 explain n i myself get confused wid it. but du u want any particular help wid shear tell me so i ll try 2 help. gud luck.Take care
Title: Re: MATH P4 [IGCSE] HELP!
Post by: al noor on May 16, 2009, 08:28:47 pm
Could any1 explain 4 me the nth term??
Title: Re: MATH P4 [IGCSE] HELP!
Post by: Priceless on May 16, 2009, 08:31:53 pm
yes al noor. but du u hv problems wid finding da nth term wen ders a constant difference or wen da 1st difference is diff but da 2nd diff is da same?
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Post by: theigstudent on May 16, 2009, 08:34:55 pm
ok ashisonline 4 dat ques u dont need 2 bother bout FD tell me wat ques ur stuck on so i can help.
n theigstudent well shear is type of a transformation like enlargement. It has a scale factor n stuff. itz rely hard 2 explain n i myself get confused wid it. but du u want any particular help wid shear tell me so i ll try 2 help. gud luck.Take care

maths pap june04
Q8 a vi   answers is sheer      but how do u come to know
Title: Re: MATH P4 [IGCSE] HELP!
Post by: pedrojosetrujillo on May 16, 2009, 08:38:06 pm
              Frequency                   
class with(difference between two numbers                    = Frequency density


After that you draw a scal in the y axis for the frequency density and on the x axis you put the class widths e.g 30 to 40
You then draw the bars.
Title: Re: MATH P4 [IGCSE] HELP!
Post by: al noor on May 16, 2009, 08:38:45 pm
yes al noor. but du u hv problems wid finding da nth term wen ders a constant difference or wen da 1st difference is diff but da 2nd diff is da same?

Actually all of it if u can
Title: Re: MATH P4 [IGCSE] HELP!
Post by: al noor on May 16, 2009, 08:41:04 pm
Actually all of it..plzz if u have time  ???
Title: Re: MATH P4 [IGCSE] HELP!
Post by: Priceless on May 16, 2009, 08:43:42 pm
maths pap june04
Q8 a vi   answers is sheer      but how do u come to know
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LOL theigstudent i wish i cud help but i hv dat circled myself 2 sk da teacher if posible n if i get tym LOL. if u find da answer pls tell me cuz i myself soo confused bout shear usually. AAAAA lol i dnt understnd y da IG ppl luv 2 torture students  :P anyway gud luck wid ur xams!
Title: Re: MATH P4 [IGCSE] HELP!
Post by: theigstudent on May 16, 2009, 08:47:05 pm
i'll surely tell u
best of luck 2 u 2
could u just help me with
pap4 june04
Q8 c ???
Title: Re: MATH P4 [IGCSE] HELP!
Post by: al noor on May 16, 2009, 08:51:39 pm
maths pap june04
Q8 a vi   answers is sheer      but how do u come to know

LOL theigstudent i wish i cud help but i hv dat circled myself 2 sk da teacher if posible n if i get tym LOL. if u find da answer pls tell me cuz i myself soo confused bout shear usually. AAAAA lol i dnt understnd y da IG ppl luv 2 torture students  :P anyway gud luck wid ur xams!
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Priceless can u please help in nth term i dont understand anything please
Title: Re: MATH P4 [IGCSE] HELP!
Post by: Priceless on May 16, 2009, 08:56:00 pm
Actually all of it..plzz if u have time  ???

itz ok al noor. i ll. c on this forum u ll find many topics wer dey hv discussed this n given sum formulas but dey dnt go into my head. on da last minute i thnk dey r confusing. so i ll tell u my method.

1. wen u hv a sequence wer da 1st diff is da same eg. 3,5,7,9 den find da difference between dem n multiply it wid 'n' so da formula wud becum "2n" in this case as da diff is 2. den du 2n eg.in this case wen n=1, 2n=2x1=2 den find hw much u need 2 get 2 da first term. so in this case it wud b +1, 2 get 4rm 2 to 3(which is da 1st term). so da nth formula wud b 2n+1. den try this wid n=2 so 2x2+1= 5. which is ur second term. ryt....this is hw i du it itz very easy once u hv got it. but if u want formulas check sum other subject topics der hv been discussion on this.

ummm 4 da 2nd 1 wer u hv 2 find da nth term wen da 2nd diff is da same i hv my method 4 this 2 but again on this site der r formulas written 4 it. da 2d method is abit long but i ll help u. however u just tell me which method u find better. if u find da formulas more easy den go ahead wid dat but if u find my method ok den tell me, i ll try 2 explain da 2nd method. gud luck.
Title: Re: MATH P4 [IGCSE] HELP!
Post by: al noor on May 16, 2009, 08:59:58 pm
Actually all of it..plzz if u have time  ???

itz ok al noor. i ll. c on this forum u ll find many topics wer dey hv discussed this n given sum formulas but dey dnt go into my head. on da last minute i thnk dey r confusing. so i ll tell u my method.

1. wen u hv a sequence wer da 1st diff is da same eg. 3,5,7,9 den find da difference between dem n multiply it wid 'n' so da formula wud becum "2n" in this case as da diff is 2. den du 2n eg.in this case wen n=1, 2n=2x1=2 den find hw much u need 2 get 2 da first term. so in this case it wud b +1, 2 get 4rm 2 to 3(which is da 1st term). so da nth formula wud b 2n+1. den try this wid n=2 so 2x2+1= 5. which is ur second term. ryt....this is hw i du it itz very easy once u hv got it. but if u want formulas check sum other subject topics der hv been discussion on this.

ummm 4 da 2nd 1 wer u hv 2 find da nth term wen da 2nd diff is da same i hv my method 4 this 2 but again on this site der r formulas written 4 it. da 2d method is abit long but i ll help u. however u just tell me which method u find better. if u find da formulas more easy den go ahead wid dat but if u find my method ok den tell me, i ll try 2 explain da 2nd method. gud luck.

I reall understood the first difference thankz  ;D ;D
Title: Re: MATH P4 [IGCSE] HELP!
Post by: Priceless on May 16, 2009, 09:02:01 pm
ummm glad 2 help so du u want me 2 tell u my method of finding 2nd difference?
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Post by: Priceless on May 16, 2009, 09:06:13 pm
i'll surely tell u
best of luck 2 u 2
could u just help me with
pap4 june04
Q8 c ???

LOL sorry 2 help late. ya ofcourse i can help wid dat. ummm 4 dat u hv 2 no da base vectors den u can answer da ques. du u no dem?
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Post by: al noor on May 16, 2009, 09:12:24 pm
yeah sure please tell me ur way
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Post by: theigstudent on May 16, 2009, 09:24:20 pm
i'll surely tell u
best of luck 2 u 2
could u just help me with
pap4 june04
Q8 c ???

LOL sorry 2 help late. ya ofcourse i can help wid dat. ummm 4 dat u hv 2 no da base vectors den u can answer da ques. du u no dem?


nope could u plz explain
 n thnxxxxx a lllllooooottttt 4 being so vvvvvvv helpful  :) ;) :D
Title: Re: MATH P4 [IGCSE] HELP!
Post by: Priceless on May 16, 2009, 09:35:52 pm
nope could u plz explain
 n thnxxxxx a lllllooooottttt 4 being so vvvvvvv helpful  :) ;) :D
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LOL thnkz but u help others 2 so thnku 4 bein such a helpful persun. ya sure i ll explain theigstudent no worries.
ok c. 4 each transformation ders a matrix which r called base vectors. so according 2 wat da transformation is u hv 2 write down da base vectors. u hv 2 learn da base vectors by heart though dats da bad part. LOL but itz ok. only problem is u no dat matrixes involve like a huge double bracket hw du u show it on da comp? pls temme if u hv any idea so i can help.  :)
Title: Re: MATH P4 [IGCSE] HELP!
Post by: Priceless on May 16, 2009, 09:39:14 pm
yeah sure please tell me ur way

i ll noor but can i du it tom cuz it ll take a long tym 2day. i hope u inderstand thnkz but tom 4 sure definitely. cya
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Post by: al noor on May 16, 2009, 09:45:42 pm
yeah sure please tell me ur way

i ll noor but can i du it tom cuz it ll take a long tym 2day. i hope u inderstand thnkz but tom 4 sure definitely. cya

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Title: Re: MATH P4 [IGCSE] HELP!
Post by: al noor on May 16, 2009, 09:48:23 pm
yeah sure please tell me ur way

i ll noor but can i du it tom cuz it ll take a long tym 2day. i hope u inderstand thnkz but tom 4 sure definitely. cya
u R SUCH A HELPFUL PERSON THANKZ SOO MUCH
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Post by: emi on May 16, 2009, 10:03:19 pm
can any one draw the histogram for  may/june 2005 Q7 part c ?  please