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Title: does power corrupt
Post by: ***exam*** on April 13, 2011, 08:18:14 pm
the question is what the topic says !!!

guys what r ur views on the phrase
'power corrupts a person'

hope to have a balanced debate :P :D

will write in detail later  but 4 now i think power doesnt corrupt !
Title: Re: does power corrupt
Post by: NotAbod on April 13, 2011, 10:55:07 pm
it doesnt corrupt if you know how to use it, but it does if you donno how to use it or your'nt  realizing even that you are having it!
Title: Re: does power corrupt
Post by: $tyli$h Executive on April 14, 2011, 10:42:19 am
In the line of politics: Yes, it generally corrupts. eg: Asif Ali Zardari.

In the line of business/others: No.
Title: Re: does power corrupt
Post by: Aadeez || Zafar on April 14, 2011, 02:01:06 pm
Elements lika steel and iron corrode so y not power
Title: Re: does power corrupt
Post by: $tyli$h Executive on April 14, 2011, 02:49:05 pm
Elements lika steel and iron corrode so y not power

It does corrode. And ironically, it corrodes in such a way that the owner does not even realize it until he has nothing left. ;)

Reason? Diversion from their main goal and focusing on 'other' stuffs.

eg. Roman empire, british empire, Soviet union, Nazi, Babar, Akbar, Mughal etc.

None of them exist now.

The way American focus is diverting from what was its founding father's - seems like its next on the row.
Title: Re: does power corrupt
Post by: Master_Key on April 14, 2011, 03:25:17 pm
In the line of politics: Yes, it generally corrupts. eg: Asif Ali Zardari.

In the line of business/others: No.

I think that line is a little incorrect. Many people are corrupt even when they are in line of business/others.

Government Sectors are most vulnerable to corruption.

Title: Re: does power corrupt
Post by: $tyli$h Executive on April 14, 2011, 03:42:43 pm
I think that line is a little incorrect. Many people are corrupt even when they are in line of business/others.

Yup, but their activities are usually well within the legal framework. Businesspeople are usually well aware of what is within the legal framework and what is not. They make sure that they are within it. Therefore, legally, what they do cannot directly be called corruption.

Whereas, political people are bluntly corrupt.

That's the major difference between the two.

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Government Sectors are most vulnerable to corruption.

Usually. Best example is the countries in the indian subcontinent.

China is an exception.
Title: Re: does power corrupt
Post by: sabbath_92 on April 14, 2011, 05:37:18 pm
It's ingrained in the human psyche. Power corrupts. Even if the businessmen had the power to bend laws he'd use it to his own advantage.
Title: Re: does power corrupt
Post by: EMO123 on April 14, 2011, 06:30:46 pm
power does corrupt the person because the think that superior and they corrupt themselves
Title: Re: does power corrupt
Post by: ***exam*** on April 17, 2011, 08:45:57 pm
ohk i think power doesnt corrupt !!

its the corrupt person coming into power abuses it !!

eg : a street cleaner if corrupt cannot show it  but when he becomes a politician or so ! he will show his corrupt by misusing the power

a person with strong value will never become corrupt in with all the power in his hands !!
Title: Re: does power corrupt
Post by: plavelil on April 19, 2011, 07:22:44 pm
i do feel power does not corrupts a person .... it is the pride which comes along with that corrupts a person ...
Title: Re: does power corrupt
Post by: ***exam*** on April 23, 2011, 12:10:47 am
i do feel power does not corrupts a person .... it is the pride which comes along with that corrupts a person ...


pride is in a person since he is born its that he can not show it sometimes !
Title: Re: does power corrupt
Post by: Dasith on May 02, 2011, 02:27:22 pm
I don't think power has anything to do with a person being corrupted, its the person who chooses to be corrupt
by using power as a tool.
Its an individuals choice to choose the path , power helps greatly in both paths i.e in good & bad,
 
Title: Re: does power corrupt
Post by: Arthur Bon Zavi on May 03, 2011, 05:16:33 pm
Power does not corrupt. Fear corrupts. Perhaps the fear of loosing the power.
Title: Re: does power corrupt
Post by: NotAbod on May 03, 2011, 05:22:18 pm
Power does not corrupt. Fear corrupts. Perhaps the fear of loosing the power.
Good point.
Title: Re: does power corrupt
Post by: EMO123 on May 05, 2011, 04:30:55 pm
Power does not corrupt. Fear corrupts. Perhaps the fear of loosing the power.
ya this is a good point

and cuz of that fear people go on doin wrong things
Title: Re: does power corrupt
Post by: ***exam*** on May 06, 2011, 01:19:45 pm
I don't think power has anything to do with a person being corrupted, its the person who chooses to be corrupt
by using power as a tool.
Its an individuals choice to choose the path , power helps greatly in both paths i.e in good & bad,
 

yaps :D

Power does not corrupt. Fear corrupts. Perhaps the fear of loosing the power.
point there but
why wld a nicee person go corrupt power or no power ! ?!
Title: Re: does power corrupt
Post by: EMO123 on May 06, 2011, 01:37:03 pm
yaps :D
point there but
why wld a nicee person go corrupt power or no power ! ?!

when people have no power so they try by good ways but they cant so they just get corrupted and at last every thing goes wrong to the world but goes good for him
Title: Re: does power corrupt
Post by: Shoshou..Mony on June 11, 2011, 03:59:09 pm
I wouldn't blame 'power' for corruption. I'd blame the person rather.

With great power, comes great responsibility and they just can't take the great responsibility that's why they seem corrupted. 
Title: Re: does power corrupt
Post by: Dasith on June 12, 2011, 05:36:12 am
I wouldn't blame 'power' for corruption. I'd blame the person rather.

With great power, comes great responsibility and they just can't take the great responsibility that's why they seem corrupted. 

haha this is the spider man quote rite :P :P
Title: Re: does power corrupt
Post by: Shoshou..Mony on June 12, 2011, 11:52:06 am
haha this is the spider man quote rite :P :P

I'd rather give the credit to Stan Lee.
Don't think it's spiderman who quoted it first.  ::)
Title: Re: does power corrupt
Post by: Dasith on June 30, 2011, 06:31:00 pm
I'd rather give the credit to Stan Lee.
Don't think it's spiderman who quoted it first.  ::)

hus Stan lee , the only "lees " i knw are Bret lee & Bruce lee :P
Title: Re: does power corrupt
Post by: Shoshou..Mony on July 02, 2011, 06:19:36 pm
hus Stan lee , the only "lees " i knw are Bret lee & Bruce lee :P

Very knowledgeable I must say.  ;) :P
Title: Re: does power corrupt
Post by: Chingoo on July 03, 2011, 10:57:44 am
I don't blame only power. This argument would just be like that 'television makes our children disrespectful' ::) The fact is, television provides an opportunity for the children to learn profanities and other disrespectful acts, but if the parents use child lock and stuff like that and the children are obedient to their parents and not prone to misbehaving, they won't fall for it. Similarly power provides an opportunity for people to access facilities and leverages they don't deserve, often at expense of others. It just depends on the person's morals and perception.

In all the civilizations you noted, you must see why the dynasties and the like corrupted. Like someone pointed out here, the new leaders and emperors did not have the vision of their forefathers, so they did not have a reason to not misuse their power. The initial rulers have gone through trials to obtain their country/control, and have established the system themselves, hence hold a strong motivation to maintain it. As the generations come and go the motivation and vigor lessens, as each successive generation is less aware of exactly how valuable the entire society is to them. Hence, eventually, civilizations come to a disastrous end because of pleasure-seeking and unconcerned rulers.
Title: Re: does power corrupt
Post by: HUSH1994 on July 03, 2011, 01:47:23 pm
I don't blame only power. This argument would just be like that 'television makes our children disrespectful' ::) The fact is, television provides an opportunity for the children to learn profanities and other disrespectful acts, but if the parents use child lock and stuff like that and the children are obedient to their parents and not prone to misbehaving, they won't fall for it. Similarly power provides an opportunity for people to access facilities and leverages they don't deserve, often at expense of others. It just depends on the person's morals and perception.

In all the civilizations you noted, you must see why the dynasties and the like corrupted. Like someone pointed out here, the new leaders and emperors did not have the vision of their forefathers, so they did not have a reason to not misuse their power. The initial rulers have gone through trials to obtain their country/control, and have established the system themselves, hence hold a strong motivation to maintain it. As the generations come and go the motivation and vigor lessens, as each successive generation is less aware of exactly how valuable the entire society is to them. Hence, eventually, civilizations come to a disastrous end because of pleasure-seeking and unconcerned rulers.
Amazing as usual,+rep :)
Title: Re: does power corrupt
Post by: EMO123 on July 04, 2011, 05:49:10 pm
I wouldn't blame 'power' for corruption. I'd blame the person rather.

With great power, comes great responsibility and they just can't take the great responsibility that's why they seem corrupted. 
ya qoute from spiderman
Title: Re: does power corrupt
Post by: Shoshou..Mony on July 05, 2011, 12:14:26 am
ya qoute from spiderman

No, it isn't.  ::)

@Chingoo, great..as always mA. =]
Title: Re: does power corrupt
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on August 04, 2011, 08:39:17 am
wasn't there a president once who resigned office to go on a pilgramage amongst his people
Title: Re: does power corrupt
Post by: 0kelvin on September 10, 2011, 12:21:07 am
In computer games, yes. I'm baseing my argument on mmorpg private servers, fps servers and mostly clan boards. In some fps game servers the admin sets off some rules, such as "no cheating, no crying, no harasing, etc" but at the same time they threat players with bans, call players crying babies, etc.

I've seen some cases of ppl who left a froum to found one of his own.
Title: Re: does power corrupt
Post by: Shoshou..Mony on September 14, 2011, 12:40:26 am
In computer games, yes. I'm baseing my argument on mmorpg private servers, fps servers and mostly clan boards. In some fps game servers the admin sets off some rules, such as "no cheating, no crying, no harasing, etc" but at the same time they threat players with bans, call players crying babies, etc.

I've seen some cases of ppl who left a froum to found one of his own.

Thankfully our admins and mods are not corrupted. Though I do remember VERY FEW admins like one or two who were corrupted but they're no longer in the team because we do not ALLOW such behavior to be adopted in SF's team members. =]