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Qualification => GCE AS & A2 Level => Queries => Topic started by: 3bood on March 10, 2011, 10:31:01 pm

Title: edexcel marking is gone mad?
Post by: 3bood on March 10, 2011, 10:31:01 pm
ok guys first al7amdolelah for everything
but in our school genius people who got A* is As levels got Us and Es in the sciences subjects!!
and they said that they did well
AND the c3 was the hardest exam ever
and the biggest problem for me
i got 2 Bs in phy unit 2 & 4 ( 1 mark for an A)
and a V in C3 (1 mark for B)
anybody have an idea? :-[ :-\
Title: Re: edexcel marking is gone mad?
Post by: jamsession on March 10, 2011, 10:42:11 pm
i got 80/100 for C4 and that's 69/75 in raw marks  :-[
Title: Re: edexcel marking is gone mad?
Post by: $tyli$h Executive on March 11, 2011, 03:24:36 am
ok guys first al7amdolelah for everything
but in our school genius people who got A* is As levels got Us and Es in the sciences subjects!!
and they said that they did well
AND the c3 was the hardest exam ever
and the biggest problem for me
i got 2 Bs in phy unit 2 & 4 ( 1 mark for an A)
and a V in C3 (1 mark for B)
anybody have an idea? :-[ :-\

Most probably they did not answer what the question asked.

For example: Describe several methods of market segmentation.

In this question, you'll have to describe different methods - segmentation according to demographic area, religious beliefs, income, occupation etc.

You would get no marks for mentioning the definition of market segmentation, describing the marketing mix or describing anything else. Straight 0 if you do not exactly answer what the question asked.

This is the most common mistake which good and bad students alike do and for which, they are penalised heavily.

Title: Re: edexcel marking is gone mad?
Post by: Uchia on March 11, 2011, 07:19:48 am
hey 3bood


about those people who didn't score well in the science subjects

which subject are talking about i think ur talking about biology and physics those subjects are always a mess
Title: Re: edexcel marking is gone mad?
Post by: 3bood on March 11, 2011, 12:46:00 pm
i got 80/100 for C4 and that's 69/75 in raw marks  :-[
good job inshallah ull do better :)
Title: Re: edexcel marking is gone mad?
Post by: 3bood on March 11, 2011, 12:47:36 pm
styllish executive : well maybe but still the wouldn get a U becoz of that!
Title: Re: edexcel marking is gone mad?
Post by: 3bood on March 11, 2011, 12:48:15 pm
hey 3bood


about those people who didn't score well in the science subjects

which subject are talking about i think ur talking about biology and physics those subjects are always a mess
MOSTLY chem and bio
Title: Re: edexcel marking is gone mad?
Post by: $tyli$h Executive on March 11, 2011, 12:50:13 pm
styllish executive : well maybe but still the wouldn get a U becoz of that!

No. A student will get marks in the lower threshold if he/she does not answer what the question asks. If this pattern is repeated over many questions, it is very easy to get an U in the exam.
Title: Re: edexcel marking is gone mad?
Post by: Jesmin on March 13, 2011, 10:48:52 am
so far are there any complaints that the edexcel marking is unfair?
Title: Re: edexcel marking is gone mad?
Post by: elemis on March 13, 2011, 10:49:32 am
so far are there any complaints that the edexcel marking is unfair?

Nope.
Title: Re: edexcel marking is gone mad?
Post by: $tyli$h Executive on March 13, 2011, 10:51:32 am
so far are there any complaints that the edexcel marking is unfair?

Yes, there were.

For example,

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=354724713266 (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=354724713266)
Title: Re: edexcel marking is gone mad?
Post by: 3bood on March 13, 2011, 10:52:25 am
so far are there any complaints that the edexcel marking is unfair?
well for the area that im in
there is a lot of complains
but anyway inshallah everything will be better :)
Title: Re: edexcel marking is gone mad?
Post by: $tyli$h Executive on March 13, 2011, 10:53:49 am
Interesting:  :D http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Examiner+fails+in+Edexcel+unfair+dismissal+tribunal.-a097290494 (http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Examiner+fails+in+Edexcel+unfair+dismissal+tribunal.-a097290494)

Examiner fails in Edexcel unfair dismissal tribunal.

An examiner who claimed that he lost his job with an examination board after criticising his employers attitude to marking yesterday failed in his attempt to bring an action for unfair dismissal.

An employment tribunal sitting in Norwich ruled that retired headmaster John Mead, aged 66, of Cromer, Norfolk, was not legally an employee of the examination board Edexcel and therefore not entitled to launch an unfair dismissal case. Edexcel severed links with Mr Mead in June 2002 barely two weeks after he had complained that he was being asked to mark down GCSE history candidates.

Mr Mead, a history paper examiner since 1988, said he had been told that if too many candidates were regraded on appeal it would reflect badly on Edexcel.

But his attempts to win compensation fell at the first legal hurdle after Edexcel argued that Mr Mead had never been 'an employee' in the legal sense of the term but had worked on a contract basis.

Tribunal chairman Christopher Ash praised the eloquence of Mr Mead, who represented himself at the hearing, but said his claim could not be considered for legal reasons. After the hearing Mr Mead said he would consider what other avenues of appeal were available before coming to any decision as to whether to pursue his claims against Edexcel.

Mr Mead had earlier said examiners' pay was so 'beggarly' that the board was forced to recruit student teachers to mark GCSE papers. He said he thought that examination board Edexcel was 'mad' to use unqualified staff to grade papers.

'Because of the beggarly pay they were forced to look outside the teaching profession for markers,' Mr Mead told the tribunal in Norwich.

'They recruited student teachers who were then trained to mark by examiners.

'These were graduates who were doing their post-graduate diploma.

'At the time we were training them they were not newly-qualified teachers.

'I thought they (Edexcel) were mad.'
Title: Re: edexcel marking is gone mad?
Post by: 3bood on March 13, 2011, 10:57:05 am
No. A student will get marks in the lower threshold if he/she does not answer what the question asks. If this pattern is repeated over many questions, it is very easy to get an U in the exam.
thx for the information
i hope its useful but i dont think the students that im talking abt are so stupid to not know what the question asks for
even if they get 2 marks out of every question theyll score better :)
Title: Re: edexcel marking is gone mad?
Post by: $tyli$h Executive on March 13, 2011, 10:59:36 am
thx for the information
i hope its useful but i dont think the students that im talking abt are so stupid to not know what the question asks for
even if they get 2 marks out of every question theyll score better :)

I hope so. :)
Title: Re: edexcel marking is gone mad?
Post by: 3bood on March 13, 2011, 11:07:12 am
Interesting:  :D http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Examiner+fails+in+Edexcel+unfair+dismissal+tribunal.-a097290494 (http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Examiner+fails+in+Edexcel+unfair+dismissal+tribunal.-a097290494)

Examiner fails in Edexcel unfair dismissal tribunal.

An examiner who claimed that he lost his job with an examination board after criticising his employers attitude to marking yesterday failed in his attempt to bring an action for unfair dismissal.

An employment tribunal sitting in Norwich ruled that retired headmaster John Mead, aged 66, of Cromer, Norfolk, was not legally an employee of the examination board Edexcel and therefore not entitled to launch an unfair dismissal case. Edexcel severed links with Mr Mead in June 2002 barely two weeks after he had complained that he was being asked to mark down GCSE history candidates.

Mr Mead, a history paper examiner since 1988, said he had been told that if too many candidates were regraded on appeal it would reflect badly on Edexcel.

But his attempts to win compensation fell at the first legal hurdle after Edexcel argued that Mr Mead had never been 'an employee' in the legal sense of the term but had worked on a contract basis.

Tribunal chairman Christopher Ash praised the eloquence of Mr Mead, who represented himself at the hearing, but said his claim could not be considered for legal reasons. After the hearing Mr Mead said he would consider what other avenues of appeal were available before coming to any decision as to whether to pursue his claims against Edexcel.

Mr Mead had earlier said examiners' pay was so 'beggarly' that the board was forced to recruit student teachers to mark GCSE papers. He said he thought that examination board Edexcel was 'mad' to use unqualified staff to grade papers.

'Because of the beggarly pay they were forced to look outside the teaching profession for markers,' Mr Mead told the tribunal in Norwich.

'They recruited student teachers who were then trained to mark by examiners.

'These were graduates who were doing their post-graduate diploma.

'At the time we were training them they were not newly-qualified teachers.

'I thought they (Edexcel) were mad.'
well ok let me tell u a story that i heard about edexcel from different teachers in our school

now dont take thsi story as true, i wasnt there when this happened

but i knw the guy and he approved that this is what happened

well this guy is very good in chemistry but he got low marks in the As level unit one chem

so he asked for a recheck from edexcel and payed the money

so they sent the teacher a copy of his exam and according to what he said

the exam that edexcel sent was the wrong one

so he contacted them and asked for his exam again

and he go another different exam which does not belong to him

until he got fed up and accepted his mark

thank god he did well in these exams :)

thats why our teachers are warning students NOT to make a recheck since its a waste of money :)

and thatnks for the great article By the way :D
Title: Re: edexcel marking is gone mad?
Post by: $tyli$h Executive on March 13, 2011, 01:09:33 pm
well ok let me tell u a story that i heard about edexcel from different teachers in our school

now dont take thsi story as true, i wasnt there when this happened

but i knw the guy and he approved that this is what happened

well this guy is very good in chemistry but he got low marks in the As level unit one chem

so he asked for a recheck from edexcel and payed the money

so they sent the teacher a copy of his exam and according to what he said

the exam that edexcel sent was the wrong one

so he contacted them and asked for his exam again

and he go another different exam which does not belong to him

until he got fed up and accepted his mark

thank god he did well in these exams :)

thats why our teachers are warning students NOT to make a recheck since its a waste of money :)

and thatnks for the great article By the way :D

Great to know your friend did well! :)

I would say that CIE is much better than edexcel in this respect. My Computing AS grade was upgraded from B to A alhamdulillah after I sent it for a clerical recheck. Another student's grade was also upgraded from D to B.
Title: Re: edexcel marking is gone mad?
Post by: elemis on March 13, 2011, 01:44:00 pm
That was case only. You cant judge on that basis.

At least Edexcel allows you to see your paper. CIE doesn't.
Title: Re: edexcel marking is gone mad?
Post by: $tyli$h Executive on March 13, 2011, 01:47:18 pm
That was case only. You cant judge on that basis.

At least Edexcel allows you to see your paper. CIE doesn't.

CIE does. ;) Check well.
Title: Re: edexcel marking is gone mad?
Post by: elemis on March 13, 2011, 04:26:01 pm
CIE does. ;) Check well.

Give me a link.
Title: Re: edexcel marking is gone mad?
Post by: house on March 13, 2011, 04:57:37 pm
I think you guys should rethink on what ur saying. When remarking is sent, the exam is revised from another examiner, hence it is NOT A WASTE OF MONEY. Thats why most cases the mark changes slightly.

Title: Re: edexcel marking is gone mad?
Post by: 3bood on March 13, 2011, 05:24:16 pm
I think you guys should rethink on what ur saying. When remarking is sent, the exam is revised from another examiner, hence it is NOT A WASTE OF MONEY. Thats why most cases the mark changes slightly.


if u read what i said again

u can conclude that the guys exam is lost

and i mean for real why eould a big company like edexcel prove itself wrong infront of the world?

of course itll change a bit or even stays the same :)
Title: Re: edexcel marking is gone mad?
Post by: $tyli$h Executive on March 13, 2011, 08:13:46 pm
Give me a link.

It was an option in the form which has to be filled up for reassessment.
Title: Re: edexcel marking is gone mad?
Post by: Jesmin on March 14, 2011, 10:06:30 am
i wanted to do cie. but unfortunately the British council does not provide lab facilities to do the practical paper for science subjects. thus i am left with no choice but to do edexcel which has a written alternative paper. i really hope the marking id fair and just. cause i am really depending on my results for scholarship. and it cost me a bomb to do edexcel compared to cie. any suggestions?
Title: Re: edexcel marking is gone mad?
Post by: Vampire-Love4ever on March 17, 2011, 07:37:14 pm
There is something wrong with Edexcel.

Last year, I didn't get my AS grades for Chemistry and Physics.

Apparantely, according to them. . . there was some clashing between my grades and some candidate from 2002. Does this even make sense?
I don't think so.

We kept contacting them for months before they handed my grades over. =/
Title: Re: edexcel marking is gone mad?
Post by: Hissa on March 18, 2011, 08:34:22 am
Yes, there were.

For example,

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=354724713266 (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=354724713266)

 I agree although i got an A for biology however this paper was more difficult than the june 2010 !! and the boundary for the june 2010 (as i heard - not sure) 60% was an A? :O
are they out of their minds..