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Title: Physics help
Post by: emi on May 05, 2009, 01:57:39 am
A see-saw has total length of 4m and is pivoted in the middle. A child of weight 400N sits 1.4m from the pivot . a child of weight 300N sits 1.8m from the pivot on the other side .A parent holds the end of the see-saw on the same side as the lighter child, work out the magnitude and direction of the force the parent must exert to hold the see saw level .

i answered like this ------------>

for see-saw to be in same level the clock wise moment = anti clock wise
so
400x1.4 = 300x1.8
560= 540
so subtract them from each other  560-540  =  20N downwards force .

but at the back of the book answer is 10N downward
so wats my mistake ?

and one Q from past paper
how do we do O/N 08 paper 6  Q2 part a)   & part c) iii  

they say suggest one reason other than change in temp. of wires ,why the results may not support the theory ?
the MS says :
"Resistance at connections
Internal resistance of source/other sensible suggestion"

i dont understand it
Title: Re: Physics help
Post by: yinyang on May 05, 2009, 06:34:44 am
560=540

it means that you need 20 more Nm to balance the see-saw, the distance from te pivot is 2(holds it at the end) ,  2*x=20,  x=20/2, x=10N


for Oct/NOv

Q6 ciii> all circuit components and wires have an internal resistance but this resistance is small so we are not expected to find the value of that resistance untill our A-levels, however as an IG student you should know that there is some resistance in the connections as well as the components. 

i have attached a diagram of the cicuit.           

Title: Re: Physics help
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 05, 2009, 07:55:32 am
A see-saw has total length of 4m and is pivoted in the middle. A child of weight 400N sits 1.4m from the pivot . a child of weight 300N sits 1.8m from the pivot on the other side .A parent holds the end of the see-saw on the same side as the lighter child, work out the magnitude and direction of the force the parent must exert to hold the see saw level .

i answered like this ------------>

for see-saw to be in same level the clock wise moment = anti clock wise
so
400x1.4 = 300x1.8
560= 540
so subtract them from each other  560-540  =  20N downwards force .

but at the back of the book answer is 10N downward
so wats my mistake ?

and one Q from past paper
how do we do O/N 08 paper 6  Q2 part a)   & part c) iii  

they say suggest one reason other than change in temp. of wires ,why the results may not support the theory ?
the MS says :
"Resistance at connections
Internal resistance of source/other sensible suggestion"

i dont understand it

Take moments for the parents force 20=2*F so F=10N

how do we do O/N 08 paper 6  Q2 part a)   & part c) iii 
c)i)The voltages are not equal since thie differences are bigger than 0.01V, the uncertainty in the reading. Voltage 3 is half voltage 1 within the limitations of the experiment.
ii)The battery and wires has internal resistance.
Title: Re: Physics help
Post by: twilight on May 05, 2009, 11:17:20 am
A see-saw has total length of 4m and is pivoted in the middle. A child of weight 400N sits 1.4m from the pivot . a child of weight 300N sits 1.8m from the pivot on the other side .A parent holds the end of the see-saw on the same side as the lighter child, work out the magnitude and direction of the force the parent must exert to hold the see saw level .

i answered like this ------------>

for see-saw to be in same level the clock wise moment = anti clock wise
so
400x1.4 = 300x1.8
560= 540
so subtract them from each other  560-540  =  20N downwards force .

but at the back of the book answer is 10N downward
so wats my mistake ?

and one Q from past paper
how do we do O/N 08 paper 6  Q2 part a)   & part c) iii  

they say suggest one reason other than change in temp. of wires ,why the results may not support the theory ?
the MS says :
"Resistance at connections
Internal resistance of source/other sensible suggestion"

i dont understand it

Title: Re: Physics help
Post by: emi on May 05, 2009, 12:38:57 pm
thanks Twilight .. and astar  <3

Title: Re: Physics help
Post by: twilight on May 05, 2009, 02:43:48 pm
welcumzz ;)
Title: Re: Physics help
Post by: emi on May 05, 2009, 05:48:49 pm
another Q ..
how do we calculate energy stored ?

here is a Question :

A bungee jumper of mass 60kg jumps from a bridge tied to an elastic rope which becomes taut after he falls 10m. Consider the jumper when he has fallen another 10m and is traveling at 15m/s

a) work out how much energy us stored in the rope, take g=10 m/s2 and ignore air resistance .


plz some one help me out
Title: Re: Physics help
Post by: twilight on May 05, 2009, 06:18:43 pm
i think its this way.

if u consider the mechanical energies( gravitational potential energy, elastic potential energy, kinetic energy)
total mechanical energy at the moment he jumps = total mechanical energy when he has fallen 20 m
             KE    +    EPE   +     GPE                      =        KE              +    EPE       +     GPE
             0     +      0    +     mxgxh                    =      1/2 mv2          +    EPE       +      0
                                      60 x 10 x 20              =    0.5 x 60 x 152    +   EPE
                                           12000                  =        6750              +   EPE

therefore     EPE( i.e. energy stored in the rope)   =        12000 - 6750         =         5250 J
Title: Re: Physics help
Post by: emi on May 05, 2009, 06:33:24 pm
Thanks i didn't think of that
Title: Re: Physics help
Post by: twilight on May 05, 2009, 06:42:32 pm
welcumzz .. r sure this is IGCSE ??
bcoz i studied this in mechanics A level
Title: Re: Physics help
Post by: emi on May 05, 2009, 06:49:15 pm
i have this IGCSE guide for physics and after each topic there are Questions , and these are from them .
Title: Re: Physics help
Post by: twilight on May 05, 2009, 07:33:46 pm
aha .. gud  :D
because i cudnt remember anything like that in Physics IGCSE ...
By the way i got A* in Physics and Maths ;)
Title: Re: Physics help
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 05, 2009, 08:12:00 pm
another Q ..
how do we calculate energy stored ?

here is a Question :

A bungee jumper of mass 60kg jumps from a bridge tied to an elastic rope which becomes taut after he falls 10m. Consider the jumper when he has fallen another 10m and is traveling at 15m/s

a) work out how much energy us stored in the rope, take g=10 m/s2 and ignore air resistance .


plz some one help me out
Conservation of Energy
Energy to start=0
so 0=mgh+EPE+1/2mv2
so 0=60*10*-20+EPE+1/2*60*152 so EPE=12000-6750=5250J
Title: Re: Physics help
Post by: emi on May 05, 2009, 08:14:32 pm
thanks  :)

and twilight thats awesome, i wish i can be like you  =]
Title: Re: Physics help
Post by: nid404 on May 06, 2009, 11:52:44 am
Guys I'm stuck with this magnetic deflection thingy og radioactive particles. Can anyone just help me understand what is meant by -the magnetic field acts into the plane of the paper. Moreover this makes it even harder to understand the deflection. Please tell me how I know if the deflection is into the paper or out of the paper. I'm screwed. I need help.

Just for your information
-The mark scheme for june 2006, paper 3, last question says that alpha particles move into the paper and beta out of the paper. Please refer to this question if possible.
-The textbook (IGCSE physics by Tom Duncan)says the deflection can be found from the left hand rule, taking negative charge moving to the right as equivalent to positive( conventional) current to the left.

I just don't understand it
 
Help
Title: Re: Physics help
Post by: yinyang on May 06, 2009, 12:09:12 pm

gamma rays- never deflect in either magnetic or electric fields.

flemings left hand rule-

hold your left hand such the your thumb first and middle finger are perpendicular to each other. the thumb represents the direction of deflection the first finger represents the direction of the magnetic field i.e. from N to S and the middle finger represents the direction of conventional current.note that a beta particle is an electron so compare it to a flowing current in a circuit, conventional current always opposes the flow of electrons in a circuit.

jun 2006
Q11> alpha particle moves in the same direction as the conventional current so following the rule your thumb should point towards the paper.

as the beta particle moves in the opposite direction then deflection is in the opposite direction.
Title: Re: Physics help
Post by: nid404 on May 06, 2009, 12:23:49 pm
This explanation tells me that alpha moves out of paper and my textbook says the same but the mark scheme differs.(It says alpha moves into the paper)
I'm in a fix....seriously man...I hope I get it before my exam starts. Somebody plz help. Thanks for ur help anyways yac_belga. If you can explain in some other way plz do.

A diagram or a video may solve it. I know the left hand rule but I just don't understand the deflection.
Title: Re: Physics help
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on May 06, 2009, 12:29:11 pm
try this

There is an excellent mnemonic, pioneered many years ago in Canada, which does away with the need for either of Fleming's complex rules. Imagine that electrons are eskimos, running through a forest. The fir trees look like arrows pointing up, and represent lines of force (ie a north pole is beneath the eskimos). As the eskimos run they always veer towards the left. That is the only rule needed.
Title: Re: Physics help
Post by: yinyang on May 06, 2009, 02:01:11 pm
visit this site http://www.furryelephant.com/content/radioactivity/discovery-radioactivity-nucleus/flemings-left-hand-rule-alpha-beta/ (http://www.furryelephant.com/content/radioactivity/discovery-radioactivity-nucleus/flemings-left-hand-rule-alpha-beta/)