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Qualification => Subject Doubts => GCE AS & A2 Level => Math => Topic started by: nid404 on September 08, 2009, 04:23:37 am

Title: Trigonometry
Post by: nid404 on September 08, 2009, 04:23:37 am
Express 8 sin theta-15 cos theta in the form R sin(theta-alpha), where R > 0 and 0degress < alpha < 90degrees, giving the
exact value of R and the value of alpha correct to 2 decimal places.

Can somebody help me with this....plz guide me with the steps..astar plz help

Title: Re: Trigonometry
Post by: nid404 on September 08, 2009, 04:54:43 am
one more identity question...it's a little complicated for me to understand
Prove the identity
(cos x + 3 sinx)2 = 5 - 4cos2x + 3 sin2x.

Sir, can u list all the equations we need to know for AS trig...i mean equations relating the three functions (tan,sin and cos)
Title: Re: Trigonometry
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on September 08, 2009, 05:53:40 am
one more identity question...it's a little complicated for me to understand
Prove the identity
(cos x + 3 sinx)2 ? 5 ? 4cos2x + 3 sin2x.

Sir, can u list all the equations we need to know for AS trig...i mean equations relating the three functions (tan,sin and cos)

wats the '?'.........
Title: Re: Trigonometry
Post by: nid404 on September 08, 2009, 06:08:13 am
one more identity question...it's a little complicated for me to understand
Prove the identity
(cos x + 3 sinx)2 ? 5 ? 4cos2x + 3 sin2x.

Sir, can u list all the equations we need to know for AS trig...i mean equations relating the three functions (tan,sin and cos)

wats the '?'.........
oopss....when i copy pasted it...the symbol changed...anyways i've corrected it
Title: Re: Trigonometry
Post by: master786 on September 08, 2009, 06:09:14 am
ur question can u clear it nd post ...
i cant get the question properly ... the second tht is ...
Title: Re: Trigonometry
Post by: nid404 on September 08, 2009, 06:10:16 am
ur question can u clear it nd post ...
i cant get the question properly ... the second tht is ...

yup it's correct now
Can you answer it master786??
Title: Re: Trigonometry
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on September 08, 2009, 06:25:21 am
one more identity question...it's a little complicated for me to understand
Prove the identity
(cos x + 3 sinx)2 = 5 - 4cos2x + 3 sin2x.

Sir, can u list all the equations we need to know for AS trig...i mean equations relating the three functions (tan,sin and cos)

is it 4cos2x and 3sin2x...or 2x
Title: Re: Trigonometry
Post by: master786 on September 08, 2009, 06:26:15 am
i wil ltry :P

lost touch with identities .. is this C2 stuff ?
or higher ?
Title: Re: Trigonometry
Post by: nid404 on September 08, 2009, 06:31:41 am
i wil ltry :P

lost touch with identities .. is this C2 stuff ?
or higher ?

It's an AS question Pure maths
Title: Re: Trigonometry
Post by: master786 on September 08, 2009, 06:32:31 am
oh great lets wait for astar :P
he wil answer it in no time :)
Title: Re: Trigonometry
Post by: nid404 on September 08, 2009, 06:33:37 am
one more identity question...it's a little complicated for me to understand
Prove the identity
(cos x + 3 sinx)2 = 5 - 4cos2x + 3 sin2x.

Sir, can u list all the equations we need to know for AS trig...i mean equations relating the three functions (tan,sin and cos)

is it 4cos2x and 3sin2x...or 2x

2x not superscript

haha master786 i knew astar could do it :P
Title: Re: Trigonometry
Post by: master786 on September 08, 2009, 06:39:07 am
yea :P i hav done identities but inedexcel...C2 ..theC3 once might be the level of pure maths ... nd C3 i havent done yet :P
so yea astars the man now :P
Title: Re: Trigonometry
Post by: nid404 on September 08, 2009, 06:45:28 am
yea :P i hav done identities but inedexcel...C2 ..theC3 once might be the level of pure maths ... nd C3 i havent done yet :P
so yea astars the man now :P

no problem master...i can wait
Title: Re: Trigonometry
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on September 08, 2009, 06:59:50 am
one more identity question...it's a little complicated for me to understand
Prove the identity
(cos x + 3 sinx)2 = 5 - 4cos2x + 3 sin2x.

Sir, can u list all the equations we need to know for AS trig...i mean equations relating the three functions (tan,sin and cos)

done
answer in the next post
Title: Re: Trigonometry
Post by: nid404 on September 08, 2009, 07:01:09 am
one more identity question...it's a little complicated for me to understand
Prove the identity
(cos x + 3 sinx)2 = 5 - 4cos2x + 3 sin2x.

Sir, can u list all the equations we need to know for AS trig...i mean equations relating the three functions (tan,sin and cos)

done
answer in the next post

Thanks adi...
Title: Re: Trigonometry
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on September 08, 2009, 07:04:28 am
ko..soo the 3 identities v use are..

sin2x = 2sinx cos x
cos2x = cos2x - sin2x
sin2x + cos2x = 1

---

k now first...simplify the LHS

therefore....RHs => cos2x + 6sinx cosx + 9sin2x

now the LHS => 5 - 4cos2x  + 3sin2x

----

lets break the LHS into 3 parts => 5 ; -4cos2x ; 3sin2x

now 5 = 5sin2x + 5cos2x

...-4cos2x = -4cos2x + 4sin2x

... 3sin2x = 6sinx cos x
(check the first 2 identities)

----
so LHS => 5sin2x + 5cos2x -4cos2x + 4sin2x + 6sinx cos x

now cancel them and u get the RHS
Title: Re: Trigonometry
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on September 08, 2009, 07:07:46 am
Express 8 sin theta-15 cos theta in the form R sin(theta-alpha), where R > 0 and 0degress < alpha < 90degrees, giving the
exact value of R and the value of alpha correct to 2 decimal places.

Can somebody help me with this....plz guide me with the steps..astar plz help


sry..cudnt solve this...
not done these types of sums in add. math

will still try though...
Title: Re: Trigonometry
Post by: nid404 on September 08, 2009, 07:11:19 am
ko..soo the 3 identities v use are..

sin2x = 2sinx cos x
cos2x = cos2x - sin2x
sin2x + cos2x = 1

---

k now first...simplify the LHS

therefore....RHs => cos2x + 6sinx cosx + 9sin2x

now the LHS => 5 - 4cos2x  + 3sin2x

----

lets break the LHS into 3 parts => 5 ; -4cos2x ; 3sin2x

now 5 = 5sin2x + 5cos2x

...-4cos2x = -4cos2x + 4sin2x

... 3sin2x = 6sinx cos x
(check the first 2 identities)

----
so LHS => 5sin2x + 5cos2x -4cos2x + 4sin2x + 6sinx cos x

now cancel them and u get the RHS

hey thanx...i didn't think about splitting it and then using the identities
this will help me solve sums ahead

no probs if u can't solve it...we'll wait for astar :P
Title: Re: Trigonometry
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on September 08, 2009, 08:36:36 am
Yes i will. I am also making some resource pages for my own website.
Title: Re: Trigonometry
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on September 08, 2009, 09:36:56 am
ko..soo the 3 identities v use are..

sin2x = 2sinx cos x
cos2x = cos2x - sin2x
sin2x + cos2x = 1

---

k now first...simplify the LHS

therefore....RHs => cos2x + 6sinx cosx + 9sin2x

now the LHS => 5 - 4cos2x  + 3sin2x

----

lets break the LHS into 3 parts => 5 ; -4cos2x ; 3sin2x

now 5 = 5sin2x + 5cos2x

...-4cos2x = -4cos2x + 4sin2x

... 3sin2x = 6sinx cos x
(check the first 2 identities)

----
so LHS => 5sin2x + 5cos2x -4cos2x + 4sin2x + 6sinx cos x

now cancel them and u get the RHS

hey thanx...i didn't think about splitting it and then using the identities
this will help me solve sums ahead

no probs if u can't solve it...we'll wait for astar :P
anytime..
Title: Re: Trigonometry
Post by: Ghost Of Highbury on September 08, 2009, 10:14:20 am
maybe astar is busy..

slvri can u try..?
Title: Re: Trigonometry
Post by: slvri on September 08, 2009, 10:20:25 am
Express 8 sin theta-15 cos theta in the form R sin(theta-alpha), where R > 0 and 0degress < alpha < 90degrees, giving the
exact value of R and the value of alpha correct to 2 decimal places.

Can somebody help me with this....plz guide me with the steps..astar plz help


ok.......8 sin theta-15 cos theta has the form a sin theta + b cos theta where a=8 and b=-15.this can be expressed in the form in the form R sin(theta-alpha) where R = sqrt(a2+b2) and R cos alpha = a (or R sin alpha = b)
R = sqrt(82+(-15)2)=17
now R cos alpha = 8
17 cos alpha = 8
alpha = cos-1(8/17)=61.93 degrees
so 8sin theta-15cos theta = 17 sin (theta - 61.93)
Title: Re: Trigonometry
Post by: nid404 on September 08, 2009, 10:46:59 am
Express 8 sin theta-15 cos theta in the form R sin(theta-alpha), where R > 0 and 0degress < alpha < 90degrees, giving the
exact value of R and the value of alpha correct to 2 decimal places.

Can somebody help me with this....plz guide me with the steps..astar plz help


ok.......8 sin theta-15 cos theta has the form a sin theta + b cos theta where a=8 and b=-15.this can be expressed in the form in the form R sin(theta-alpha) where R = sqrt(a2+b2) and R cos alpha = a (or R sin alpha = b)
R = sqrt(82+(-15)2)=17
now R cos alpha = 8
17 cos alpha = 8
alpha = cos-1(8/17)=61.93 degrees
so 8sin theta-15cos theta = 17 sin (theta - 61.93)

Thanx a lot :))
Title: Re: Trigonometry
Post by: slvri on September 08, 2009, 11:09:02 am
Express 8 sin theta-15 cos theta in the form R sin(theta-alpha), where R > 0 and 0degress < alpha < 90degrees, giving the
exact value of R and the value of alpha correct to 2 decimal places.

Can somebody help me with this....plz guide me with the steps..astar plz help


ok.......8 sin theta-15 cos theta has the form a sin theta + b cos theta where a=8 and b=-15.this can be expressed in the form in the form R sin(theta-alpha) where R = sqrt(a2+b2) and R cos alpha = a (or R sin alpha = b)
R = sqrt(82+(-15)2)=17
now R cos alpha = 8
17 cos alpha = 8
alpha = cos-1(8/17)=61.93 degrees
so 8sin theta-15cos theta = 17 sin (theta - 61.93)

Thanx a lot :))

no problem ;)
Title: Re: Trigonometry
Post by: astarmathsandphysics on September 08, 2009, 11:22:12 am
Sorry I missed this. I am trying to do the templates for some maths notes I want to write for my own site.
Title: Re: Trigonometry
Post by: nid404 on September 08, 2009, 11:23:54 am
Sorry I missed this. I am trying to do the templates for some maths notes I want to write for my own site.

It's ok sir...you're so worked up..u need a break