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Reducing carbon emissions - Market or Regulative approach?
$tyli$h Executive:
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Carbon tax..and who will agree on it.?
Have You seen Chinese,Russian politicans or even Saudi Politicans.They will veto any such decision.International carbon tax requires unity among countries which doesnt exist
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Well, a carbon tax and "cap and trade" system is much more favourable than the regulative approach. If the government straightly bans polluting cars and production methods, this is going to be much hard for businesses and consumers to come up to terms with. They will face a substantial downturn in their standard of living due to the economic downturn which will follow. Regulation is a blunt instrument, lets face it. People will hate the government for this and thus the government loses votes due to regulation system.
But in a cap and trade and tax system, individuals will still be able to use polluting vehicles and production methods, but will have to pay the relative tax, proportional to the amount of carbon emission caused. They are not forced in any way by the government, just the tax. The people will see this better than the "regulation approach" in which a decision is forced upon them. The government is thus not likely to lose a substantial amount of votes if it is able to, using the right tactics, induce awareness on its citizens of the harmful effects of CO2 pollution.
So, world leaders are more likely to agree on a market approach than a regulative approach.
Saladin:
Quite frankly, you need stats to back up your arguments.
ANY lasting decision will have a dire effect on the economy in the medium term.
Businesses have to suffer, because the rate at which we need changes is far to great.
Emissions of carbon will NOT decrease will the limits, and the increase increase in taxes.
The ultimate fact remains this: if we want to change energy policy, we are going to have to do a radical rethink of energy itself.
The honest answer to your question is this: we need to invest HEAVILY in green technology, because it is the only thing that has a lasting impact.
astarmathsandphysics:
Market is better. If you charge people who pollute, you can use the monewy to reduce pollution. If you ban pollution, lots of people will end up in jail, where they will cost us all money
$tyli$h Executive:
The Singapore introduced car taxes. Everybody needs to pay taxes, which are often more than the price of the cars they are going to buy. To enter busy areas like Hougang, you've got to pay a flat rate of tax in the peak hour, falling in off peak hours. I've been there and I think this is a very effective system if the country's road network is proper. I don't think this high rate of tax has caused Singapore to suffer any economic decline. In contrast, it has experienced rapid rates of growth. So, this statistic reinforces that a market based approach does not cause the economy to suffer in any way.
Yes. I agree that we need to invest heavily in green technology. And the market based approach does (indirectly) just that as I explained earlier. The regulative approach makes some attempt, but generally fails for reasons explained above.
Saladin:
--- Quote from: $tyli$h Executive on June 18, 2010, 07:03:49 pm ---The Singapore introduced car taxes. Everybody needs to pay taxes, which are often more than the price of the cars they are going to buy. To enter busy areas like Hougang, you've got to pay a flat rate of tax in the peak hour, falling in off peak hours. I've been there and I think this is a very effective system if the country's road network is proper. I don't think this high rate of tax has caused Singapore to suffer any economic decline. In contrast, it has experienced rapid rates of growth. So, this statistic reinforces that a market based approach does not cause the economy to suffer in any way.
Yes. I agree that we need to invest heavily in green technology. And the market based approach does (indirectly) just that as I explained earlier. The regulative approach makes some attempt, but generally fails for reasons explained above.
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Actually the market based solution consumes both time and mony, now time is sth that we dnt have, at all.
We need a mass greenification, and we need it soon, before low lying countries like Bangladesh simply drown.
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