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P.H.Y.S.I.C.S P2 D.O.U.B.T.S CIE
« on: June 02, 2010, 08:20:35 am »
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in the ms its 42+/- 4 cm/s
dont we have to change it to meters ?
and where did they get the +/-4  from
similarly for the second part, where did they get that uncertainity from?
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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2010, 08:42:16 am »
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It's exactly like the steel and concrete combination. Why is concrete stronger in compression and weaker in tension? Because in tension the extensions of top and bottom layers vary, and so it shatters. The opposite goes for steel.

The exact same case here. However, the difference in extensions in the thicker rod is greater, and so it breaks easier. i.e require less bending.

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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2010, 08:49:39 am »

nov 2005
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in the ms its 42+/- 4 cm/s
dont we have to change it to meters ?
and where did they get the +/-4  from
similarly for the second part, where did they get that uncertainity from?

No you don't have to change them to meters. Actually, it's preferable to keep them as it's given to you! It's given to you in cm, then keep it in cm. BUT, if you change it to meters, it would still be right. However, the probability of making an error is increased as now you have to divide by a 100 (you could type 10 in your calculator)

And, for the second part, it's not uncertainty. It's just the range of ACCEPTABLE values by students, as your answer varies from another's. It's not for you, it's for the examiners. As long as your answer lies in the range, you're safe.

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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2010, 08:50:20 am »
Was I clear ? ::)

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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2010, 08:59:01 am »
No you don't have to change them to meters. Actually, it's preferable to keep them as it's given to you! It's given to you in cm, then keep it in cm. BUT, if you change it to meters, it would still be right. However, the probability of making an error is increased as now you have to divide by a 100 (you could type 10 in your calculator)

And, for the second part, it's not uncertainty. It's just the range of ACCEPTABLE values by students, as your answer varies from another's. It's not for you, it's for the examiners. As long as your answer lies in the range, you're safe.

so basically the +/-4 is not the uncertainity.
and for this question the final answer MUST be in m.
so i have to divide 42 by 100 ..correct?
THX A BUNCH  ;D
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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2010, 09:07:23 am »
so basically the +/-4 is not the uncertainity.
and for this question the final answer MUST be in m.
so i have to divide 42 by 100 ..correct?
THX A BUNCH  ;D

Yes. +/- 4 is not part of the uncertainty. They will ask for it DIRECTLY in the exam.

And NO! You got me totally wrong! LOL I said it's preferable to keep it in CM, as it is given to you in the question, so ther's a less chance of making errors!

Was I clear, again? :P

And don't thank me, it's my job ;)

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« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2010, 09:44:08 am »
Yes. +/- 4 is not part of the uncertainty. They will ask for it DIRECTLY in the exam.

And NO! You got me totally wrong! LOL I said it's preferable to keep it in CM, as it is given to you in the question, so ther's a less chance of making errors!

Was I clear, again? :P

And don't thank me, it's my job ;)

hhahah i got u yep....but if u look at the question in the space where we have to write the answer the unit theyve given is meters xD
hahah and dude i cant help NOT thanking u :P
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« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2010, 09:46:26 am »
hhahah i got u yep....but if u look at the question in the space where we have to write the answer the unit theyve given is meters xD
hahah and dude i cant help NOT thanking u :P

Oooppss.. my bad ;D then yes..your answer should be in meters if it's written to you.

And I know you cannt help thanking me 8) :P LOL JK..its alright :)

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« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2010, 04:01:35 pm »
 ;D ;D
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could someone draw and explain why the directions are in such a manner???
thx
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« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2010, 04:57:32 pm »
;D ;D
june 2005
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could someone draw and explain why the directions are in such a manner???
thx

I know that the +ve charge will experience a force towards the right. That is because electric field is from +ve plate to the negative plate. +ve charge will experience a pull towards the negative plate. The -ve charge just the opp.

The ms says correct directions with line of action of arrows passing through charges...Now I wonder if we have to show the force that the charge experiences due to the other. (force that once charge has on the other)  :-\

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« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2010, 05:22:02 pm »
I know that the +ve charge will experience a force towards the right. That is because electric field is from +ve plate to the negative plate. +ve charge will experience a pull towards the negative plate. The -ve charge just the opp.

The ms says correct directions with line of action of arrows passing through charges...Now I wonder if we have to show the force that the charge experiences due to the other. (force that once charge has on the other)  :-\


ahh u c the next questions are about couples, so i guess its just these 2 forces, maybe we just have to extend the lines? ???
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« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2010, 06:25:50 pm »
can u guyz recommend me a gud buk for physics?which is according to the syllabus and has all required formulas n definitionz...plz help me!!!!!

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« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2010, 12:59:31 pm »
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« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2010, 01:07:51 pm »
Please halosh, post the q paper.

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« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2010, 01:22:04 pm »
Please halosh, post the q paper.

there u go
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