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Re: Chemistry P3 7/6/2010
« Reply #30 on: June 02, 2010, 03:55:12 pm »
I shall be responsible for the remainder of Organic Chemistry, Air and Water, Carbonates and Sulphates.

hey tell me de topic dat i can do

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Re: Chemistry P3 7/6/2010
« Reply #31 on: June 02, 2010, 04:28:21 pm »
hey tell me de topic dat i can do

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Re: Chemistry P3 7/6/2010
« Reply #32 on: June 04, 2010, 05:31:01 am »
Download this file............

then pls anss my q

can somebody list the imp.reactions that would probably come on 7th plssssssssssssss

or give the link where it is stated......
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Re: Chemistry P3 7/6/2010
« Reply #33 on: June 04, 2010, 05:41:14 am »
HEy guys ,i'm really in trouble, the problem is that my chemistry guide(bob berry) is missing an important page(Pg 33 to 34) ,about excess reagents and  coincidentally ,i always mess up that question and lose marks,so could someone  scan the page off the guide and post it,or even a picture  would do, i'm sure you''ll wil understand ,thanks! :) :D :)
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Re: Chemistry P3 7/6/2010
« Reply #34 on: June 04, 2010, 06:40:27 am »
Download this file............

then pls anss my q

can somebody list the imp.reactions that would probably come on 7th plssssssssssssss

or give the link where it is stated......
Gaurav..
so u really cant ask for an easy way out...because there is a possibility of anything arising
but I feel u should study important processes such as extraction of metals especially iron,aluminium,zinc and copper
then also the haber's process and contact process.
Study chromatography thoroughly as it could come in ppr  3...
Oh yeah also study the production of nitric acid..hasnt really come before so it could now
also yeah study the basic reactions (acid+base,acid+metal etc)
Electrolysis too
good luck
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Re: Chemistry P3 7/6/2010
« Reply #35 on: June 04, 2010, 11:17:47 am »
Gaurav..
so u really cant ask for an easy way out...because there is a possibility of anything arising
but I feel u should study important processes such as extraction of metals especially iron,aluminium,zinc and copper
then also the haber's process and contact process.
Study chromatography thoroughly as it could come in ppr  3...
Oh yeah also study the production of nitric acid..hasnt really come before so it could now
also yeah study the basic reactions (acid+base,acid+metal etc)
Electrolysis too
good luck


Thx but will still be looking for some input...........
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Re: Chemistry P3 7/6/2010
« Reply #36 on: June 04, 2010, 11:42:12 am »
Gaurav..
so u really cant ask for an easy way out...because there is a possibility of anything arising
but I feel u should study important processes such as extraction of metals especially iron,aluminium,zinc and copper
then also the haber's process and contact process.
Study chromatography thoroughly as it could come in ppr  3...
Oh yeah also study the production of nitric acid..hasnt really come before so it could now
also yeah study the basic reactions (acid+base,acid+metal etc)
Electrolysis too
good luck

Extraction of copper is omitted.
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Re: Chemistry P3 7/6/2010
« Reply #37 on: June 04, 2010, 12:37:23 pm »
Can anyone help me with moles? i never got their head or toe........tym is almost up n i kno as much moles as i did three years ago when i did them them fr the first tym! HELP! any tricks....tips......anYthing! :'( :'( :'(

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Re: Chemistry P3 7/6/2010
« Reply #38 on: June 04, 2010, 12:58:36 pm »
Can anyone help me with moles? i never got their head or toe........tym is almost up n i kno as much moles as i did three years ago when i did them them fr the first tym! HELP! any tricks....tips......anYthing! :'( :'( :'(

It's hard to 'teach' you moles.  My advice is go through past paper questions, and then you'll find it is well easy!

I've written very thorough explanations for some questions and doubts people have asked.  Here they are:

s02, Q5) c) and d):

The equation you need to use is:

                      Volume of gas (in dm3)
Moles of gas = --------------------------
                                      24

Note to convert cm3 to dm3, divide quantity by 1000 (e.g. 20cm3/1000=0.02dm3)

This is the proper theory and equation behind my calculations below.

Here are the answers for 5) c) as requested:

i)   Moles of C4H6: 0.02/24=0.000833
     From equation, we know 2 moles of C4H6 reacts with 11 moles of O2
     Therefore, moles of O2: 0.000833*5.5=0.00458
     Therefore, volume of O2: 4.58*24*1000=110cm3

ii)  From equation, we know 2 moles of C4H6 produces 8 moles of CO2
     Therefore, moles of CO2: 0.000833*4=0.00333
     Therefore, volume of CO2: 0.00333*24*1000=80cm3

iii) From equation, we know 2 moles of C4H6 produces 6 moles of H2O
     Therefore, moles of H2O: 0.000833*3=0.0025
     Therefore, volume of H2O: 0.0025*24*1000=60
     Therefore, total volume of gases is simply volume of CO2 + volume of H2O:
     80+60=140cm3

     Alternatively, 8+6=14, so 2 moles of C4H6 produces 14 moles of products
     Therefore, moles of products: 0.000833*7=0.00583
     Therefore, volume of products: 0.00583*24*1000=140cm3

For part d), you use this formula:

             Mass
Moles = ------
               Mr

d)  From the above equation, 1 mole of butyne forms 3 moles of water
     Number of moles of butyne reacted: 9/54=0.167
     Number of moles of water formed: 0.167*3=0.5
     Mass of water formed: 0.5*(2+16)=9g

I hope this has helped. :D

s08, Q7) b)

OK, hopefully this clears your doubt.

This time, you'll need to also apply this formula:
                                                                      
Concentration (mol/dm3) = Moles / Volume (dm3)

So:

i) Number of moles of NaOH used = 2.24*0.025 = 0.056 mols

ii) Maximum number of moles of Na2SO4.10H2O that could be formed = From the equation given, you can see 2 moles of NaOH gives 1 mole of Na2SO4.10H2O.  So it is simply: 0.056/2 = 0.028 mols

iii) Mass of one mole of Na2SO4.10H2O = 322g

iv) Maximum yield of sodium sulphate-10-water = 0.028*322 = 9.02g

v) Percentage yield = (3.86/9.02)*100 = 42.8%

If you don't understand any of this, I'll be happy to explain ;)

w08, Q7) a)

The equation you need to use is:

                      Volume of gas (in dm3)
Moles of gas = --------------------------
                                      24

Note to convert cm3 to dm3, divide quantity by 1000 (e.g. 20cm3/1000=0.02dm3)

This is the proper theory and equation behind my calculations below.

Here are the answers for 5) c) as requested:

i)   Moles of C4H6: 0.02/24=0.000833
     From equation, we know 2 moles of C4H6 reacts with 11 moles of O2
     Therefore, moles of O2: 0.000833*5.5=0.00458
     Therefore, volume of O2: 4.58*24*1000=110cm3

ii)  From equation, we know 2 moles of C4H6 produces 8 moles of CO2
     Therefore, moles of CO2: 0.000833*4=0.00333
     Therefore, volume of CO2: 0.00333*24*1000=80cm3

iii) From equation, we know 2 moles of C4H6 produces 6 moles of H2O
     Therefore, moles of H2O: 0.000833*3=0.0025
     Therefore, volume of H2O: 0.0025*24*1000=60
     Therefore, total volume of gases is simply volume of CO2 + volume of H2O:
     80+60=140cm3

     Alternatively, 8+6=14, so 2 moles of C4H6 produces 14 moles of products
     Therefore, moles of products: 0.000833*7=0.00583
     Therefore, volume of products: 0.00583*24*1000=140cm3

For part d), you use this formula:

             Mass
Moles = ------
               Mr

d)  From the above equation, 1 mole of butyne forms 3 moles of water
     Number of moles of butyne reacted: 9/54=0.167
     Number of moles of water formed: 0.167*3=0.5
     Mass of water formed: 0.5*(2+16)=9g

I hope this has helped. :D

s04, Q7) b):

7) b) i) Moles of Mg = 3/24 = 0.125
           Moles of CH3COOH = 12/60 = 0.200
           Using ratios given in the equation, to compare, divide 0.2/2 = 0.100 moles of CH3COOH.          
           Therefore, magnesium is in excess.

        ii) The one not in excess: ie. 0.1

        iii) 0.1*24 =2.4dm3

Got it?

I hope that's enough questions for you to follow!  ;P
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Re: Chemistry P3 7/6/2010
« Reply #39 on: June 04, 2010, 01:41:01 pm »
i have a question.... w06 q8 c(iii)

how do i deduce the formula? i need to know that to ans the question
ms says the test is bromine water and the result for the first one is brown to colourless this means that it is an alkene right? bt hw do i knw that the first one is alkene from the fromula given?
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Re: Chemistry P3 7/6/2010
« Reply #40 on: June 04, 2010, 01:43:20 pm »
i have a question.... w06 q8 c(iii)

how do i deduce the formula? i need to know that to ans the question
ms says the test is bromine water and the result for the first one is brown to colourless this means that it is an alkene right? bt hw do i knw that the first one is alkene from the fromula given?

If its an alkene it will have the general formula   Cn H2n   where n is the number of carbon atoms

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Re: Chemistry P3 7/6/2010
« Reply #41 on: June 04, 2010, 01:47:25 pm »
If its an alkene it will have the general formula   Cn H2n   where n is the number of carbon atoms

um can you please check the question... do i count all the carbon atoms or just the ones on the first line?
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Re: Chemistry P3 7/6/2010
« Reply #42 on: June 04, 2010, 01:50:03 pm »
um can you please check the question... do i count all the carbon atoms or just the ones on the first line?

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Re: Chemistry P3 7/6/2010
« Reply #43 on: June 04, 2010, 02:01:29 pm »
um can you please check the question... do i count all the carbon atoms or just the ones on the first line?
C17H33 has two fewer hydrogen atoms compared to C17H35, we can deduce that C17H33 is an alkene straightaway ...
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Re: Chemistry P3 7/6/2010
« Reply #44 on: June 04, 2010, 02:09:37 pm »
C17H33 has two fewer hydrogen atoms compared to C17H35, we can deduce that C17H33 is an alkene straightaway ...

How does that prove anything ?