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Re: Edexcel PHYSICS Doubts
« Reply #525 on: May 15, 2011, 04:04:54 pm »
Yeah just read through the forums.. seems that q4 on the MS is wrong

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Re: Edexcel PHYSICS Doubts
« Reply #526 on: May 15, 2011, 04:17:58 pm »
Yeah just read through the forums.. seems that q4 on the MS is wrong
My teacher said D too but i cant remember how is it D.
as what you are saying makes sense, i guess too the ms is wrong unless we are missing out something :S


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Q1 a for 2010 may
I dont understand the question itself? can anyone explain
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Re: Edexcel PHYSICS Doubts
« Reply #527 on: May 15, 2011, 04:41:04 pm »
My teacher said D too but i cant remember how is it D.
as what you are saying makes sense, i guess too the ms is wrong unless we are missing out something :S


I have a question
Q1 a for 2010 may
I dont understand the question itself? can anyone explain
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Re: Edexcel PHYSICS Doubts
« Reply #528 on: May 15, 2011, 04:55:16 pm »
Actually it has to be a variable power source as in A.. The voltage has to be increased until it passes the 0.6V thats needed for a diode to start conducting.. Parts B and D are WRONG for sure as they're reverse-biased.. no matter how much voltage you apply it will NEVER conduct in reverse-bias .. SO B and D are gone for SURE. Now A and C.. We need to measure the voltage as it starts to conduct.. so We need a variable power supply which we will keep increasing the voltage until it conducts with a reasonable current.. so the answer is A

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Re: Edexcel PHYSICS Doubts
« Reply #529 on: May 15, 2011, 05:01:10 pm »
For Q3:
Each small line is 40 Hz and the lowest frequency is the the first line on the graph therefore if you count them until the first frequency line, you will get 440 Hz

Q9 c:
Eq. of a straight line is the form y = mx + c

You know that the graph is of s/t for y-axis and t for x-axis
Therefore your y = s/t and you know that s/t is speed therefore y = v

So eq. will be like:

s = ut + 1/2at2
Dividing by t will give : s/t = u + 1/2at
Substituting for s/t :
v = u + 1/2at ------> y = c + mx

And for part d..m not so sure

Thanx alot. But regrading the Q3. I just found one more way to solve, hopefully more easy and less error prone.

First, take the least frequncy, which in the graph will be 2200 Hz, and divde it by the total number of bar graps, i.e. 5. You get 440.

Which method is correct though? I merely tried to use Logic.

As for Question 9 (d) first calculate the gradient obtained from the graph, i.e 0.04,
Now according to the formula given : s=ut+1/2at^2
As u = 0; Initial Value
S=0+1/2at^2
s/t=1/2at
s/t/t=1/2a
a=s/t/t x 2
a=gradient x 2 [s/t/t = Gradient]
a=0.04x2=0.08 m/s

Now, s=ut+1/2at^2
s-1/2at^2=ut
u=(s-1/2at^2)/t
  =s/t-1/2at
  =0.86-1/2 x0.08 x2.32
  =0.86-0.04 x2.32
  =0.7672 m/sec

Hope it is not to confusing.

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Re: Edexcel PHYSICS Doubts
« Reply #530 on: May 15, 2011, 05:09:55 pm »
Thanx alot. But regrading the Q3. I just found one more way to solve, hopefully more easy and less error prone.

First, take the least frequncy, which in the graph will be 2200 Hz, and divde it by the total number of bar graps, i.e. 5. You get 440.

Which method is correct though? I merely tried to use Logic.

As for Question 9 (d) first calculate the gradient obtained from the graph, i.e 0.04,
Now according to the formula given : s=ut+1/2at^2
As u = 0; Initial Value
S=0+1/2at^2
s/t=1/2at
s/t/t=1/2a
a=s/t/t x 2
a=gradient x 2 [s/t/t = Gradient]
a=0.04x2=0.08 m/s

Now, s=ut+1/2at^2
s-1/2at^2=ut
u=(s-1/2at^2)/t
  =s/t-1/2at
  =0.86-1/2 x0.08 x2.32
  =0.86-0.04 x2.32
  =0.7672 m/sec

Hope it is not to confusing.

I think both methods are correct as 2200 Hz is a multiple of the fundamental frequency i.e. 440 Hz therefore using ur method gives the right answer too :D

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Re: Edexcel PHYSICS Doubts
« Reply #531 on: May 15, 2011, 06:48:11 pm »
^^ Why did u use 0.86 and 2.32 as the values?

My a comes out as 0.078

and for u i get a weird answer
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Re: Edexcel PHYSICS Doubts
« Reply #532 on: May 15, 2011, 10:08:56 pm »
hey humans, who knows how to find the uncertancy of a value. I find a different equation and method everywhere and now im confused.

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Re: Edexcel PHYSICS Doubts
« Reply #533 on: May 16, 2011, 06:40:16 am »
^^ Why did u use 0.86 and 2.32 as the values?

My a comes out as 0.078

and for u i get a weird answer

Got the vaules from the graph check you graph and then substitute the values.

And regrading the uncertainly here is what I know :

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what is uncertainty?
fault in the apparatus due to limitation of apparatus

limitation of apparatus = least count/ precision

reliable ---> less error
Precise ---> small value

less reliable ---> more precise >>> reason: because its difficult to take small measurement!

absolute uncertainty = least count = maximum value of uncertainty

greater than least count ---> personal error

percentage uncertainty = least count/measurement*100

This is posted on this forums by the users so credit to them, hope it helps

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Re: Edexcel PHYSICS Doubts
« Reply #534 on: May 16, 2011, 06:59:12 am »
What can you study for paper 3 AS level?
Any specific chapters? HELP!!

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Re: Edexcel PHYSICS Doubts
« Reply #535 on: May 16, 2011, 09:08:03 am »
What can you study for paper 3 AS level?
Any specific chapters? HELP!!
ya i suggest read the syllabus and do as given for as

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Re: Edexcel PHYSICS Doubts
« Reply #536 on: May 16, 2011, 09:39:24 am »
What can you study for paper 3 AS level?
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If you're taking about Physcis Unit 3 Edexcel AS level , then study ALL the experiments from Unit 1 and 2.

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Re: Edexcel PHYSICS Doubts
« Reply #537 on: May 16, 2011, 10:22:04 am »
hey humans, who knows how to find the uncertancy of a value. I find a different equation and method everywhere and now im confused.

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Re: Edexcel PHYSICS Doubts
« Reply #538 on: May 16, 2011, 12:21:54 pm »
Anyone??

Q1 from 2011 (attachment) and Q1 from 2010 Jun

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Re: Edexcel PHYSICS Doubts
« Reply #539 on: May 16, 2011, 12:44:45 pm »
Yeah just read through the forums.. seems that q4 on the MS is wrong


Yea i put C for that one, I just cant seem to find any logical reason as to why it's D.  ???