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Alpha:
--- Quote from: $tyli$h Executive on July 24, 2010, 03:09:40 pm ---There are SO many proofs of God. The Quran is only one: It clearly states many scientific truths which were not at all known to people the time it was given to us by God. Not one verse in the quran was proven wrong till now, be it by scientific, philosophical or any other means. A religious book will help to explain this well and better than I explained here. But I explained the foundation.
This is the strongest proof of God, that is his holy book. So, the belief of God is perfectly logical.
Unlike believing in love.
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I'll repeat what I said too:
There is ONE proof of love, that it is not illogical too, which is sufficient : Love of God.
$tyli$h Executive:
--- Quote from: ~Alpha on July 24, 2010, 03:12:16 pm ---I'll repeat what I said too:
There is ONE proof of love, that it is not illogical too, which is sufficient : Love of God.
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You got me wrong. I believe in love too, love for anything material, including God. (Now don't say god is not material, I already proved that he exists and is our creator, and is thus material).
What I meant to say that I do not believe in love for another guy or girl. Again, this post should help to explain why::
Look, I am NOT against love. I do not despise love, as you seem to think. In fact, I myself love many things. For example, money, wealth and business, house, family etc etc etc. Love is a strong emotion indeed. This strong emotion IS necessary for someone to achieve something.
BUT and a BIG BUT, when this love becomes for something which is NOT beneficial, this is very illogical, foolish and something to be despised of. A very good example of this is the love for another girl/guy. My point is, love for money and business is understandable and plausible, since they are beneficial to you. But love for another girl/guy? Its not. What will you get by loving that guy/girl? NOTHING. As I said, love is a strong emotion. And due to this very reason, love for another guy/girl will CONSUME the person concerned, that too, without any personal benefit for the person. He/she will always think about his/her lover, neglecting his/her studies, business or work in case of a grown up man, and other very important tasks.
Got it now?
Alpha:
--- Quote from: $tyli$h Executive on July 24, 2010, 03:17:31 pm ---You got me wrong. I believe in love too, love for anything material, including God. (Now don't say god is not material, I already proved that he exists and is our creator, and is thus material).
What I meant to say that I do not believe in love for another guy or girl. Again, this post should help to explain why::
Look, I am NOT against love. I do not despise love, as you seem to think. In fact, I myself love many things. For example, money, wealth and business, house, family etc etc etc. Love is a strong emotion indeed. This strong emotion IS necessary for someone to achieve something.
BUT and a BIG BUT, when this love becomes for something which is NOT beneficial, this is very illogical, foolish and something to be despised of. A very good example of this is the love for another girl/guy. My point is, love for money and business is understandable and plausible, since they are beneficial to you. But love for another girl/guy? Its not. What will you get by loving that guy/girl? NOTHING. As I said, love is a strong emotion. And due to this very reason, love for another guy/girl will CONSUME the person concerned, that too, without any personal benefit for the person. He/she will always think about his/her lover, neglecting his/her studies, business or work in case of a grown up man, and other very important tasks.
Got it now?
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Everything that is not spiritual is material.
nid404:
I beg to differ borakk...
Proof of God is not in a book. Nope. Who wrote the book? God? Definite no. We believe the message in the book was transferred by God to Humans...we do not know for sure...We believe. It is our belief. Many things cannot be explained scientifically, which may give us the reason to believe in the existence of a superior being...but who knows?
I've always questioned our existence, where we came from?, why are we here?, what is our duty ? I've found answers, some similar in different religious books. But it's a book...passed on...from generation to generation...you think people didn't modify it? People look for benefits no? The book written centuries ago is not the perfect transcript of God's message...It could've been modified...we came much later
I know..I can sense that there is some one/thing that controls everything...we call it God...what is God? I don't know....but it is the one ultimate truth...we may believe..we may not.
But we experience love... I know of it. There is no reason why one shouldn't believe in love. Love is not a means of achievement, it is an emotion- pure and divine :)
$tyli$h Executive:
--- Quote from: ~Alpha on July 24, 2010, 03:20:17 pm ---Everything that is not spiritual is material.
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I already said so why believing in God is materialistic, or in other words, realistic:
--- Quote ---There are SO many proofs of God. The Quran is only one: It clearly states many scientific truths which were not at all known to people the time it was given to us by God. Not one verse in the quran was proven wrong till now, be it by scientific, philosophical or any other means. A religious book will help to explain this well and better than I explained here. But I explained the foundation.
This is the strongest proof of God, that is his holy book. So, the belief of God is perfectly logical.
Unlike believing in love.
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I don't know how believing in love between guys and girls can be materialistic. So, it is baseless.
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