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The battle of the sexes!

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angell:
ok, frankly?

women and men have equally contributed to society as we know it.

all men were born because of women.

The very fact that there is a necessity to have a topic like this proves that somewhere, somethings VERY wrong.

Women and Men should be treated equally - not just because women are as good as men, but because we've EARNED our right to be treated as equals.

$tyli$h Executive:
I am debating for equal rights, like you, but I would like to correct you that all women were born because of men too. ::)

The first human being, Adam, was a man after all. ::)

angell:
we're not Adam or Eve..

so technically, unless and unitl there are men producing babies.. its the women who hold the title :D :D :P

Alpha:
I did not call you a sinner. You should have read my post well before editing it.
Smart enough, I can't prove it; you already edited my post.

My humble request: please, refrain from editing my posts. I write them, and I know very well what I write in them. I am transparent. That's why I'm asking you not to obscure what I write.
If there's anything you don't like, then you have a better option: delete.

Okay, I'm replying to your discussion.


--- Quote from: $tyli$h Executive on March 05, 2010, 04:42:28 pm ---Any man who is ashamed of a female boss, is ashamed when a women drives a car or bus, is ashamed when a women orders him or generally thinks he is superior to women ought to do a lot more thinking. Times have changed. We could learn a lot from our American and English brothers and sisters. 'Ego' has no value in the modern world. Just do whatever it takes to achieve something.

I have nothing more to say about this. This point cannot be emphasized further. Personal views. This is just how I think.


--- End quote ---

Your American and English brothers live in America and England, you inhabit another society. And since you've talked about America, then tell me how the nation for which you say ego has no value, in all of its recorded history, has never never NEVER had a female President?

That's not something personal anymore.
All personal views = Social ethics

It's a reality. Running from reality by calling it "personal" does not help to bring any change.


--- Quote ---There is nothing as 'ego'. I only think about what I am or what is my position. Not what others are. In other words, I am not jealous of girls. I do not compare myself with others. At the creative plane, not competitive. As I said earlier, men and women should cooperate, not compete. Others may think differently. But as I said earlier, any man who thinks he is superior to women, ought to do a lot more thinking.

The atmosphere of cooperation will result in a greater labour force. Higher GDP. Higher economic growth. More investment. Higher standard of living. More average per capita income. And to sum it up, the country will be more developed, more resourceful and with a friendly business environment and stock market, due to the increase in the number of female investors.
--- End quote ---

It's not jealousy, it's a superiority-inferiority complex. It's ego, self-respect. There is everything in trying to preserve one's ego. The world moves on ego. What you think, what I think, make no difference at all. Now I understand why poets call this world one for fools.

Cooperate, yea, but where is cooperation = equality? It's most of the time, cooperation = submission.



--- Quote ---Its should men and women have equal rights? Not 'does', or 'can'.
--- End quote ---

We should do what we can. Besides, the past always influences the present, while we carry the generations forward.
I replied for a should (not) itself. They were not created to be equal.

$tyli$h Executive:
I spoke to myself...

Women around India are not allowed to choose their life partners. They HAVE to marry the one their parent chooses. According to me, a woman should be able to like and choose the one she will marry, just like males. It is unfair to restrict them in this way. I also cannot understand why a woman cannot be awarded the right to be a leader if she possesses the necessary skills. Could you please explain how men and women are required to 'bend down for the other' in order to progress? (leaving aside biological issues like pregnancy). I see no reason. Cooperation does not require 'inequal' rights. It calls for 'equality'. Like if women are not allowed to be leaders, how can it be cooperation? It is prejudice.

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