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Re: Lactic acid
« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2009, 05:33:10 am »
i'm still sure its from the acid. i checked my book too.
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Re: Lactic acid
« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2009, 06:00:09 am »
aadi ur wrong !!! :(
i agree wid nid...its OH from alchohol nd H from acid...
see u remember an acid is an H+ donor not OH
u get it?????
nd if u dont get it still pllsss show me wid a diagram how an OH ion is coming from an acid....dts sooo weird.... ???  :P :o
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Re: Lactic acid
« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2009, 06:02:20 am »
Quote from: A@di on November 07, 2009, 05:33:10 am
i'm still sure its from the acid. i checked my book too.

which book do u use?? I'm too sure abt this..since alcohol becomes alkyl.....it can't have a O single handedly....no not possible
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Re: Lactic acid
« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2009, 06:13:24 am »
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Re: Lactic acid
« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2009, 06:13:48 am »
dude either i am not able to interpret it or it is actually some fault...plsss check nd let me know
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Re: Lactic acid
« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2009, 06:13:59 am »
check the diagram - http://filesmelt.com/downloader/ester.bmp
@nid - roger norris, roger stanbridge

maybe u guyz are confusing this reaction with a neutralization reaction, in that, the H from the acid is taken.

Na+(aq)+OH-1(aq)+H+(aq)+Cl-(aq) --> Na+(aq)+Cl-(aq)+H2O

« Last Edit: November 07, 2009, 06:17:11 am by A@di »
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Re: Lactic acid
« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2009, 06:19:56 am »
dude...the reaction is perfect but as u have chosen H from the ethanol and OH from the acid...its wrong...it has to be te other way round...
as in H from the acid....nd OH from ethanol..
thee is no doubt about onfusing wid neutralisation reaction....bt  gotta understand dt be it neutralisation reaction or some other...an acid cannot give an OH-ion...
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Re: Lactic acid
« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2009, 06:20:47 am »
it gives!!
i ahve also cheked my book!!
lactic acid gives OH!!
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Re: Lactic acid
« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2009, 06:21:47 am »
Quote from: @d!_†oX!© on November 07, 2009, 06:19:56 am
dude...the reaction is perfect but as u have chosen H from the ethanol and OH from the acid...its wrong...it has to be te other way round...
as in H from the acid....nd OH from ethanol..
thee is no doubt about onfusing wid neutralisation reaction....bt  gotta understand dt be it neutralisation reaction or some other...an acid cannot give an OH-ion...

u repeating the same point a thousand times dude. u want me to scan that page and send it over?
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Re: Lactic acid
« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2009, 06:23:00 am »
yup...wud be gr8 if u do so....
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Re: Lactic acid
« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2009, 06:24:31 am »
do it!!
let them see it!!
i am laso confused after reading manyimtes acid is H+ donor but here it does not follow it!!
i guess!!
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Re: Lactic acid
« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2009, 06:29:52 am »
Ok.....I just revised some organic chemistry...and adi is right...it's the acid that give OH and alcohol that gives H

http://www.chemguide.co.uk/physical/catalysis/esterify.html

It's pretty complicated actually.......I haven't really started with organic chem in A level.....so to explain would be a problem........the mechanism explained in the site is pretty good....check it out

And for now evn if you don't get it....jst remember OH is from acid And H from alcohol
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Re: Lactic acid
« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2009, 06:30:58 am »
see!!
aadi and i were right!!!

yippie!!!
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Re: Lactic acid
« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2009, 06:32:11 am »
Quote from: ~~~~shreycool~~~~ on November 07, 2009, 06:30:58 am
see!!
aadi and i were right!!!

yippie!!!

and the reaction is not as simple as adi has shown......that diagram has a lot of steps involved......
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Re: Lactic acid
« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2009, 06:33:42 am »
i guess organic chem is very tough!!
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