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Who's is Kashmir rightfully
nid404:
--- Quote from: rfi on June 03, 2009, 11:33:55 am ---let me make something clear. im kashmiri. but im not a patriot. or a nationalist. or anything related to identifying with a country. because that is WRONG. why? dont make me start...
and whoever said im making up stories... seriously... do you want someone to throw a shoe at you? did i insult ur bharat or whatever u call it? no. all im trying to do is open YOUR eyes to see that ur military is ___ and *** stuff. yea. and if u call me a liar, seriously OPEN YOUR ***ing EYES. maybe ill quote some censored news... did u know india didnt let ANY journalists into kashmir last summer? NONE. how did BBC get all that news? FROM THE GOVERNMENT. AFTER THEY CENSORED IT. they said one hundred thousand people came to the biggest protest. that figure is full of ****. the indian media said before that that five hundred thousand came to tht protest (note tht bbc's source was these guys). tht figure was full of sh** too. one million people came to the protest. the biggest one. does that figure sound like a lie? its because ur a brainwashed kid you know. you have no idea wha a warzone is. do you want to know who my cousin is? his name is aiqib irshad. go search for "aiqib" on facebook, hes still the only one, i think... add him. not all of u, dont pester him, lol, and ask him what happened to one of his friend's eyes during the protests last summer. and then maybe he'll give u tht guy's facebook id. and u can add him. ask him. i dont live in kashmir, but i go there for the summer, for 3 months every year. last year summer, we were forced to stay inside the house ("curfew" whole day) for two months on end. my neighbor was going to get married. on the day of his marriage, which was naturally cancelled, his MOTHER DIED. DO YOU KNOW WHY? because of this "curfew" which lasts the whole day. she couldn't get her insulin injections. and so she died. just like that.
oh maybe ill give u some links nid. if you can support what ur government and military does, explain this. (oh n for u guys in saudi arabia, check yestetday's arab news, it had something about what i said in kashmir, which was of course downplayed and made to look like an accident. it said that people had tensions businesses were closed, etc. people did that on purpose. like they care...) heres some links:
http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/uncategorized/everybody-is-playing-politics-over-shrine-dispute-in-kashmir_10087921.html
(thats an indian site, read it, learn something REAL, not the **** in history books)
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/09/world/asia/09kashmir.html?_r=1
(new york times, now say thats lying too)
http://news.in.msn.com/specials/battle_over_amarnath_land.aspx
(now read that, thats the whole story)
maybe read this as well
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Kashmir_unrest
im good at using google. ask me if there's anything else u want to read about. except remember that all they say is exaggerated-exaggerated so that it looks like nothing is wrong, when in fact, a lot is wrong.
now mr.nid. i have no problems with any indians. make that clear. NO PROBLEM WITH INDIANS. but i dont like ur country, and the people who run it, and i dont like those indian soldiers who are in kashmir.
if you think what they do is fine, then i dont like you either. i dont want to talk to you. if you like what they do. but if you deny them doing this, we can continue talking about it, and it will be obvious you have no clue what ur talking about.
i have no problems with any hindus either. that was to godfather and nid. whoever was a hindu. seriosuly. im not racist or discriminatory, until i know who you are and what you represent, and if i dislike that, i have all the right in the world to hate you.
and godfather. what are u saying? muslims have a low literacy rate? do u understand what the muslim world has done for civilization? or do you listen to the media?
thats ur problem. u dont have any sources of information other than those adulterated ones coming from the people who like war. eg, the media. u want a source of information? google. blogs. wikipedia, to an extent. other people who know what they r talking about. like me. yes. like me. if you think im a liar, good for you, go live in ur box. this cant be a debate with people like u who say that a KASHMIRI would lie. and then u say that we want to be indian. WTF. seriously. kashmir was never part of india+pakistan, go learn ur history. india+pakistan+bangladesh was bharat, kashmir was never part of that.
kashmiris are different. u wouldnt understand. we dont speak urdu or hindi, call it different names, its the same thing (yeah yeah two or three words im impressed <-sarcasm). im kashmiri. i speak kashmiri. which is a bit like persian. because kashmiris were originally irani... then some indian kind of people came and settled in kashmir, and we get the kashmiris you have now. but those people were called bhattas. lol... u woudl have to be kashmiri to understand....
whatever. at least u can apologize. but i wont. especially how u called me a liar... imagine u were from a small country, and this happened to you, what would u do? tell people the truth, and expect them to believe you. but if u call me a liar, honestly, go live in ur box, i dont want to talk with you...
<sweetsh, thanks for unlocking this topic again... i dont like how ppl who r ignorant get to stay ignorant without a reason>
and like i said, i hate nationalism. so dont talk as a nationalist here, please. talk as a human being, and if ur a muslim, talk as a muslim.
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MUSLIMS...MUSLIMS AND MUSLIMS IS ALL U SEE. There r others here dude. Talk real with reason and yardstick not as an orthodox muslim. U r not the only one living in Kashmir....there r hindu kashmiris too....so plz.....By the way w8s happened to the no.of hindus in Kashmir...ever thought abt that...no y would u...u care only abt ur community.....every1else is invisible here. U need to learn history first cuz Kashmir was always a part of India and i have hindu kashmiri friends... Do u know how many people converted to Islam during the mughal reign in India. Learn abt that and then talk.
Military and crap i do not know....and u talk as if those soldiers are not Kashmiris.... and who creates all that curfew...ppl of Kashmir..so think..think. People from Delhi or the cabinet don't send ppl there to start fights...
and By the way im miss.
Kim:
U all seriously need to CALM DOWN!!!!!!!otherwise this can get alot out of hand! >:so really ppl settle down we r not politicians what one says the other might not agree so really take this topic as a healthy debate and dont chew each others brain over it!!!!!!!!!!!!
nid404:
--- Quote from: kim on June 03, 2009, 12:00:13 pm ---
U all seriously need to CALM DOWN!!!!!!!otherwise this can get alot out of hand! >:so really ppl settle down we r not politicians what one says the other might not agree so really take this topic as a healthy debate and dont chew each others brain over it!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ur right in a way and ive requested sweetsh to have a look at the cold war happening.....and asked her to take appropriate action
Kim:
--- Quote from: nid404 on June 03, 2009, 12:02:52 pm ---
--- Quote from: kim on June 03, 2009, 12:00:13 pm ---
U all seriously need to CALM DOWN!!!!!!!otherwise this can get alot out of hand! >:so really ppl settle down we r not politicians what one says the other might not agree so really take this topic as a healthy debate and dont chew each others brain over it!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ur right in a way and ive requested sweetsh to have a look at the cold war happening.....and asked her to take appropriate action
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and u did the right thing cause these were gettin lets just say literally violent
~M.J~:
Hey guyz locking these topic won't get u anywhere
don't just jump on each other
claim somthing and provide a trusted link beside it
so this way we can get to a conclusion..... :)
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