HAHAHAHAA.... this is all so funny... you know why? because this is the exact reason why i won the debate about what should happen to kashmir.
when i had to say something, right at the end, i told everyone that the indians know the reasons why we shouldnt join pakistan, and the pakistanis know the reasons why india shouldnt take over kashmir, BUT I SEE NO REASON WHATSOEVER WHY KASHMIR SHOULDNT BE INDEPENDENT.
the thing you have to understand here is that kashmir was never part of india (pakistanis can tell you all about this, how the maharaja was from some part of india, and decided that kashmir should be with india by signing a document, while all the people in kashmir hated him, he was a dictator set in by the british, and he lived in some place in india at the time he signed the document, not kashmiri at all, note that kashmiris ARE DIFFERENT. i mean people from "J&K" kashmir)
and pakistan doesnt want kashmir anymore, i mean your president, zardari, who you all hate (pakistanis and indians) doesnt want kashmir anymore, and that is basicly why we cant join pakistan. your government treats us like a piece of **** in truth, with all your fake promises and things. i understand how you pakistanis feel, but you've got to try and look at what the truth really is, whats really happening.
and kashmir was independent before the british came to india, we had a leader and all. right now, kashmir's prime minister (yes, we have elections for ministers and chief ministers and all, under that indian article 300 something) is not very nice either. its the JKLF and all those other parties most kashmiris support (before you say its because of "ethnic cleansing" in which hindus were killed and all that other BS which your media propagates, i recommend you go find out what the truth is, what ive already posted, how the indian military took all the kashmiri hindus out of kashmir in their convoys and things). because they stand for independence.
face it, all of you indians out there. the military that your government has sent to kashmir is not nice, they do all kinds of things. look in the newspapers these days about the protests going on in kashmir, which are actually frickin huge, but which they downplay, the indian government i mean, they dont allow journalism and all. bbc has to get anything they report from inside india censored and all.
whatever. i hope you now agree that kashmir should be independent. we can fully support ourselves, thank you very much, if the indian government stopped trying to crush our economy. kashmir used to produce a type of shawl which would sell for around... $2670 a meter, which the indian government banned production of. why? the shawl is made of hairs from the neck of mountain goats, and the indian government says that "to protect wildlife, this must be stopped". they give the explanation that the mountain goats will become extinct, etc. WHAT THE HELL? its not like anyone even touches the mountain goats. the hairs are collected from bushes where they graze, one at a time and all... and then knitted and all. mountain goats were never harmed. they lie of course, because they want to make it look like kashmir needs india for economy.
we used to sell walnut furniture and papermachie, very very good quality stuff. if you play cricket, you might have heard of "kashmiri walnut bats" or kashmiri willow bats. well, now, to make these, you need a permit. and this permit, is of course, a big joke. you need the permit (which like i implied, is impossible to get) to cut down the walnut trees... but you know what? these walnut trees that are cut down are the ones that these people's grandparents grew. i mean, they cut, and plant. the huge forests and all? NONE OF THAT WAS EVER TOUCHED. it might have been by some occasional idiot, but the ones these walnut farmers cut, are grown by them.
then there's fruit. kashmir grows LOAADSSS of different types of fruits, the weather is perfect for lots of different types. cherries, apples, strawberries, peaches, plums, and so many more, banana, etc etc. i dont know all of them, but still, those were a few. then there's vegetables, of which you have raddish, tomato, lettuce, pumpkin, turnip, potato, and almost every single vegetable you can imagine, even corn (all the different things ive mentioned, except banana, grow in "my" house (i mean my grandparents' home, which is where i stay during the summer, but its kind of "ours") in the HUGE garden)... all that fruit is taxed and quota'd and all... xD not that bad, compared to banning shahtose (i dont know how to spell that..) and destroying walnut wood production... but just you watch what will happen soon to this too...
ok, i think ive shown u why and how kashmir can stand up on its own. it has an economy. a good one. selling unique things (i forgot to mention saffron, kashmiri saffron is one of the best in the world) (i also forgot to mention this new thing which is banned called "child labour"... all the other types of shawls which are made are usually made by a family, the whole family gets involved, dad reads off the pattern in his special way, son weaves it, mom washes the shawls, daughter makes the dyes, etc etc. this is how many families used to get along. then they banned "child labour". so all those beautiful shawls which used to sustain these people, their whole trade, what their great grandparent taught their grandparent to do, is now about to be lost. the last generation of these people exists in kashmir right now, not practicing their trade, having resorted to things like sweeping streets and begging, and all because of this stupid rule. stupid rule? no, just another way to stunt the growth of our economy so it looks like we need help....) (oh and tourism... dont make me start... all the money goes to some indians living in bombay or whatever, the government people, they dont allow direct flights to or from kashmir even in our new international airport (which only has two destinations: jeddah and some place in abu dhabi/dubai) all the airlines are naturally indian governement owned in the international airport, so that india gains as much as it can from tourism, all those resorts in the mountains are being taken away from their rightful owners, my grandfather owned one which he used to rent out, a beautiful house, the indian military converted it into a garrison for their troops, it has all these bombs and ammunition now, he's not allowed to go inside, etc etc. what, you think you can sue them? they OWN the government dude. please... there is no justice... you wouldnt understand)
so yea, our economy would flourish again if india stopped whatever its doing, we could become a normal country!! we already have our own flag, if you didnt know.. only if other governments stopped intefering... see this:
http://kashmir-truth-be-told.blogspot.com/http://www.kashmirwatch.com/or this quote, which is quite random,...
Maharaja Hari Singh had wanted Kashmir to remain independent, but merged with India in exchange for military support and the promise of a referendum on independence, which has never been held. As a result of the unresolved dispute, India and Pakistan went to war over Kashmir in 1947-48. In 1949 a UN Peacekeeping mission arrived and has remained as observers ever since. A second war was fought in 1965, leading to the peace agreement and a new cease-fire line, known as the Line of Control (LOC).
you've got to understand that we've all been put through propaganda. try to talk with ppl who know, like me. i know what happens in kashmir. no, i dont claim to know who hari singh reely was, or whatever. but i know more about whats happening in kashmir than any media can tell you,...