Author Topic: CHEM AND BIO HELP AND TIPS HERE  (Read 357371 times)

Offline Vin

  • SF V.I.P
  • ********
  • Posts: 7914
  • Reputation: 52609
  • Gender: Male
    • Theory of Life - A new skew.
Re: CHEM AND BIO HELP AND TIPS HERE
« Reply #2490 on: June 04, 2010, 04:22:20 pm »
mohit1234 mentioned it... yea the question never asked about it... I know mentioning is not sinning but does it affect anything or is it important?

Offline Ivo

  • SF Geek
  • ****
  • Posts: 515
  • Reputation: 2767
Re: CHEM AND BIO HELP AND TIPS HERE
« Reply #2491 on: June 04, 2010, 04:25:44 pm »
mohit1234 mentioned it... yea the question never asked about it... I know mentioning is not sinning but does it affect anything or is it important?

Not important at all.  In my view, as long as you say at 8cm3, maximum height of ppt was reached, then that's the first mark.  I believe, writing that statement does not help or indeed actually answers the question, so no I don't think it's needed.
« Last Edit: June 04, 2010, 04:27:28 pm by Ivo »
Always willing to help!  8)
"In helping others, we shall help ourselves, for whatever good we give out completes the circle and comes back to us."

Offline Helium

  • SF Citizen
  • ***
  • Posts: 216
  • Reputation: 672
  • Knowledge is light
Re: CHEM AND BIO HELP AND TIPS HERE
« Reply #2492 on: June 04, 2010, 04:28:41 pm »
Question: ???

When asked to to draw diagram of a compound that shows

formula of compound, charges on ions, arrangement of valency electrons around negative ions.

For example MgCl2 we just draw both, with arrows of the moving electrons to cl.

unlike covalent bonding.

Aiming for the top

Offline Ivo

  • SF Geek
  • ****
  • Posts: 515
  • Reputation: 2767
Re: CHEM AND BIO HELP AND TIPS HERE
« Reply #2493 on: June 04, 2010, 04:33:29 pm »
Question: ???

When asked to to draw diagram of a compound that shows

formula of compound, charges on ions, arrangement of valency electrons around negative ions.

For example MgCl2 we just draw both, with arrows of the moving electrons to cl.

unlike covalent bonding.



For only ionic bonding, just draw the outer shell and don't bother with electron transfer stuff.

So for the diagram below of calcium chloride, this is a very good diagram except you only need to draw the outer shell, and not all the shells.  Sorry couldn't find a better diagram.
Always willing to help!  8)
"In helping others, we shall help ourselves, for whatever good we give out completes the circle and comes back to us."

Offline Raywin

  • SF Geek
  • ****
  • Posts: 393
  • Reputation: 409
  • Gender: Male
Re: CHEM AND BIO HELP AND TIPS HERE
« Reply #2494 on: June 04, 2010, 04:35:41 pm »
Question: ???

When asked to to draw diagram of a compound that shows

formula of compound, charges on ions, arrangement of valency electrons around negative ions.

For example MgCl2 we just draw both, with arrows of the moving electrons to cl.

unlike covalent bonding.

Hmm, yeah i guess thts wht u have to do. :) draw arrows showing th direction of the moving electrons and then also showing like for eg: 2[Cl]^+ to show how the compound is finally. Umm hope u get me? :)  lol ivo's got it.. :P
;D

Offline ruruiw 60984

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 27
  • Reputation: 37
  • Gender: Female
Re: CHEM AND BIO HELP AND TIPS HERE
« Reply #2495 on: June 04, 2010, 04:43:41 pm »
does anyone have biology paper 1 november 2009 ??
cause its not openning on free exam papers or xtreme pastpapers either ..
if u have the pprs or any link please post them ..
thnk u :D

Offline Ivo

  • SF Geek
  • ****
  • Posts: 515
  • Reputation: 2767
Re: CHEM AND BIO HELP AND TIPS HERE
« Reply #2496 on: June 04, 2010, 05:04:17 pm »
does anyone have biology paper 1 november 2009 ??
cause its not openning on free exam papers or xtreme pastpapers either ..
if u have the pprs or any link please post them ..
thnk u :D


Please click here.
Always willing to help!  8)
"In helping others, we shall help ourselves, for whatever good we give out completes the circle and comes back to us."

Offline 8T

  • SF Citizen
  • ***
  • Posts: 148
  • Reputation: 162
  • Gender: Female
Re: CHEM AND BIO HELP AND TIPS HERE
« Reply #2497 on: June 04, 2010, 05:32:46 pm »
Please click here.
Which varient with ms or without?
Know how to ask. There is nothing more difficult for some people, nor for others, easier.

Offline Ivo

  • SF Geek
  • ****
  • Posts: 515
  • Reputation: 2767
Re: CHEM AND BIO HELP AND TIPS HERE
« Reply #2498 on: June 04, 2010, 05:35:49 pm »
Which varient with ms or without?

What do you mean?  Both variants of qp and ms are there.
Always willing to help!  8)
"In helping others, we shall help ourselves, for whatever good we give out completes the circle and comes back to us."

Offline 8T

  • SF Citizen
  • ***
  • Posts: 148
  • Reputation: 162
  • Gender: Female
Re: CHEM AND BIO HELP AND TIPS HERE
« Reply #2499 on: June 04, 2010, 05:41:09 pm »
Oh ok sorry tht was extremely wierd i dnt even know why i asked the question.
Soory again (:
Know how to ask. There is nothing more difficult for some people, nor for others, easier.

Offline Helium

  • SF Citizen
  • ***
  • Posts: 216
  • Reputation: 672
  • Knowledge is light
Re: CHEM AND BIO HELP AND TIPS HERE
« Reply #2500 on: June 04, 2010, 05:56:31 pm »
For only ionic bonding, just draw the outer shell and don't bother with electron transfer stuff.

So for the diagram below of calcium chloride, this is a very good diagram except you only need to draw the outer shell, and not all the shells.  Sorry couldn't find a better diagram.

Ok i get it, ;D

Thanks Ivo and Raywin
Aiming for the top

Offline Vin

  • SF V.I.P
  • ********
  • Posts: 7914
  • Reputation: 52609
  • Gender: Male
    • Theory of Life - A new skew.
Re: CHEM AND BIO HELP AND TIPS HERE
« Reply #2501 on: June 04, 2010, 06:07:12 pm »
For only ionic bonding, just draw the outer shell and don't bother with electron transfer stuff.

So for the diagram below of calcium chloride, this is a very good diagram except you only need to draw the outer shell, and not all the shells.  Sorry couldn't find a better diagram.

Oh! I was been taught only in covalent bonding we are supposed to draw the valence shell and full electronic configuration of an ionic bond, exactly like in the diag. that you have uploaded. :-\

Offline Ivo

  • SF Geek
  • ****
  • Posts: 515
  • Reputation: 2767
Re: CHEM AND BIO HELP AND TIPS HERE
« Reply #2502 on: June 04, 2010, 06:22:34 pm »
Oh! I was been taught only in covalent bonding we are supposed to draw the valence shell and full electronic configuration of an ionic bond, exactly like in the diag. that you have uploaded. :-\

Hmm, my teacher said that you don't, it's a waste of time and you won't get marks, apparantly.
Always willing to help!  8)
"In helping others, we shall help ourselves, for whatever good we give out completes the circle and comes back to us."

Offline The Golden Girl =D

  • Without Allah I'm nothing <3
  • Honorary Member
  • SF Overlord
  • *****
  • Posts: 13757
  • Reputation: 65532
  • Ain't Nothin worth your tears =D
    • www.thegoldengirl157.blogspot.com
Re: CHEM AND BIO HELP AND TIPS HERE
« Reply #2503 on: June 04, 2010, 07:41:01 pm »
Hmm, my teacher said that you don't, it's a waste of time and you won't get marks, apparantly.

same goes for my teacher  ;)
Verily, in the remembrance of Allah do hearts find rest(13:28)

Please, Don't forget to Include GG in your Prayers =D

Offline Vin

  • SF V.I.P
  • ********
  • Posts: 7914
  • Reputation: 52609
  • Gender: Male
    • Theory of Life - A new skew.
Re: CHEM AND BIO HELP AND TIPS HERE
« Reply #2504 on: June 04, 2010, 08:13:14 pm »
Oh okay, thank you for the info.